Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Opinions on web interface

2003-11-07 Thread Webmaster Oilfield Directory
Hey... where do i get a copy of this, i need something like this ver ybadly
. is it in cold fusion or what?


thanks


Sheldon

- Original Message - 
From: Scot Desort [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 12:45 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Opinions on web interface


 OK, someone changed the password in the demo. I have reset it back to
 'spam'.

 Folks, if you do visit the demo page, please don't change the password...
 You can change anything else.

 http://spamwatch.njaccess.com

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Pw=spam

 --
 Scot



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  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Brody
  Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 3:10 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Opinions on web interface
 
 
  I am not able to login with the demo username and password.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scot Desort
  Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 10:28 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Opinions on web interface
 
 
  I just finished throwing together a web interface to allow
  our customers
  to self-maintain their spam thresholds, whitelists and
  declude actions.
  It's very simple, but does everything we need. Written in ColdFusion,
  SQL database to store settings, with a custom tag that writes the text
  files to disk for Declude to read. The only thing that would be nice
  would be to have it sync the password with the IMAIL
  password. I suppose
  one of these days I will convert all of my domains to SQL for IMAIL
  password storage, which would solve the problem.
 
  Your comments are welcomed:
 
  http://spamwatch.njaccess.com
 
  demo login
  user name: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  pw: spam
 
  Feel free to play around. It's not a live account.
 
  Thanks,
 
 
  --
  Scot
 
 
  - Original Message - 
  From: R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 4:30 PM
  Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] WhiteList option questions
 
 
  
   Just upgrading Declude after a fair amount of time.  The docs say
   that
  the
   white list file should go into $default$.junkmail.  Just wanted to
  confirm
   it goes there and not global.cfg.
  
   That is correct.  The WHITELISTFILE option is designed for incoming
   mail only, and only applies to the
  \IMail\Declude\$default$.JunkMail
   and per-user/per-domain files.
  
   -Scott
   ---
   Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail
   mailservers. Declude Virus: Catches known viruses and is
  the leader in
 
   mailserver vulnerability detection. Find out what you've
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Opinions on web interface

2003-11-06 Thread Administration
Hello Scot,

this program looks very good!
i've been messing around with this same idea for a little while, but using ASP
instead.

could i by any chance get a copy of your script?

thanks in advance for your time!
ken

Thursday, November 6, 2003, 1:27:49 PM, you wrote:

SD I just finished throwing together a web interface to allow our customers to
SD self-maintain their spam thresholds, whitelists and declude actions. It's
SD very simple, but does everything we need. Written in ColdFusion, SQL
SD database to store settings, with a custom tag that writes the text files to
SD disk for Declude to read. The only thing that would be nice would be to have
SD it sync the password with the IMAIL password. I suppose one of these days I
SD will convert all of my domains to SQL for IMAIL password storage, which
SD would solve the problem.

SD Your comments are welcomed:

SD http://spamwatch.njaccess.com

SD demo login
SD user name: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SD pw: spam

SD Feel free to play around. It's not a live account.

SD Thanks,


SD --
SD Scot


SD - Original Message - 
SD From: R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SD To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SD Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 4:30 PM
SD Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] WhiteList option questions



 Just upgrading Declude after a fair amount of time.  The docs say that
SD the
 white list file should go into $default$.junkmail.  Just wanted to
SD confirm
 it goes there and not global.cfg.

 That is correct.  The WHITELISTFILE option is designed for incoming mail
 only, and only applies to the \IMail\Declude\$default$.JunkMail and
 per-user/per-domain files.

 -Scott
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 Declude Virus: Catches known viruses and is the leader in mailserver
 vulnerability detection.
 Find out what you've been missing: Ask about our free 30-day evaluation.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Opinions on web interface

2003-11-06 Thread Mark Brody
I am not able to login with the demo username and password.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scot Desort
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 10:28 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Opinions on web interface


I just finished throwing together a web interface to allow our customers
to self-maintain their spam thresholds, whitelists and declude actions.
It's very simple, but does everything we need. Written in ColdFusion,
SQL database to store settings, with a custom tag that writes the text
files to disk for Declude to read. The only thing that would be nice
would be to have it sync the password with the IMAIL password. I suppose
one of these days I will convert all of my domains to SQL for IMAIL
password storage, which would solve the problem.

Your comments are welcomed:

http://spamwatch.njaccess.com

demo login
user name: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
pw: spam

Feel free to play around. It's not a live account.

Thanks,


--
Scot


- Original Message - 
From: R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 4:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] WhiteList option questions



 Just upgrading Declude after a fair amount of time.  The docs say 
 that
the
 white list file should go into $default$.junkmail.  Just wanted to
confirm
 it goes there and not global.cfg.

 That is correct.  The WHITELISTFILE option is designed for incoming 
 mail only, and only applies to the \IMail\Declude\$default$.JunkMail 
 and per-user/per-domain files.

 -Scott
 ---
 Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail 
 mailservers. Declude Virus: Catches known viruses and is the leader in

 mailserver vulnerability detection. Find out what you've been missing:

 Ask about our free 30-day evaluation.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Opinions on web interface

2003-11-06 Thread Matt Robertson
Have you thought of giving users more control over the process?  As in a db tie-in to 
tests, weights and actions?  I use CF as well and I'm figuring on doing something that 
will allow enablement of a particular test, or its disablement, coupled to setting the 
test weight and action performed.  Should be fairly simple to use cffile to write out 
a Declude file with the dangerous stuff hardcoded into it.  Probably 30 days away from 
having the time to finally do it.

I get customization requests daily from this or that user.  Nobody wants the same 
thing.  Frankly I'm sick of hearing it and am ready to turn the process over to the 
user and let them have at it if they want to be the antispam genius.
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Opinions on web interface

2003-11-06 Thread Scot Desort
OK, someone changed the password in the demo. I have reset it back to
'spam'.

Folks, if you do visit the demo page, please don't change the password...
You can change anything else.

http://spamwatch.njaccess.com

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pw=spam

--
Scot



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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Brody
 Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 3:10 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Opinions on web interface
 
 
 I am not able to login with the demo username and password.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scot Desort
 Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 10:28 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Opinions on web interface
 
 
 I just finished throwing together a web interface to allow 
 our customers
 to self-maintain their spam thresholds, whitelists and 
 declude actions.
 It's very simple, but does everything we need. Written in ColdFusion,
 SQL database to store settings, with a custom tag that writes the text
 files to disk for Declude to read. The only thing that would be nice
 would be to have it sync the password with the IMAIL 
 password. I suppose
 one of these days I will convert all of my domains to SQL for IMAIL
 password storage, which would solve the problem.
 
 Your comments are welcomed:
 
 http://spamwatch.njaccess.com
 
 demo login
 user name: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 pw: spam
 
 Feel free to play around. It's not a live account.
 
 Thanks,
 
 
 --
 Scot
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 4:30 PM
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] WhiteList option questions
 
 
 
  Just upgrading Declude after a fair amount of time.  The docs say 
  that
 the
  white list file should go into $default$.junkmail.  Just wanted to
 confirm
  it goes there and not global.cfg.
 
  That is correct.  The WHITELISTFILE option is designed for incoming 
  mail only, and only applies to the 
 \IMail\Declude\$default$.JunkMail 
  and per-user/per-domain files.
 
  -Scott
  ---
  Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail 
  mailservers. Declude Virus: Catches known viruses and is 
 the leader in
 
  mailserver vulnerability detection. Find out what you've 
 been missing:
 
  Ask about our free 30-day evaluation.
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Opinions on web interface

2003-11-06 Thread Scot Desort
Well, we use a weighting system with declude. All of the tests and their
associated weights are hard-coded into global.cfg, with the weightrange
tests. Then, each user has a .junkmail file that basically only contains the
spam control level they have chosen (WEIGHT3 for medium on my web
interface), followed by the chosen action. All of the individual RBL and
filter tests defined in global.cfg are not present in the users .junkmail
file. Only the cumulative WEIGHT test. Therefore, I don't see how I could
give them more control, since everything else is handled in the global.cfg
file, and I'm sure as hell not going to allow them to mess with that file.

If I was running a simpler config where each test stood on it's own, and it
was up to the user to do client side filtering on individual tests and total
declude weight, I guess I could then let them manipulate the inclusion or
exclusion of specific tests in the .junkmail file. However, the majority of
my users want nothing to do with that level of control. When someone signs
up for spam control, we set them up in the db, with declude set to off for
them (no action). This FORCES them to go into the web interface and setup
their account for the first time, become familiar with the controls, and
this way WE cannot be blamed for setting their spam control to high or too
low.

In the future, I might even consider having different actions for different
weights. But even that might be too confusing for them.

On a side note, I am not using CFFILE for writing my files to disk. I am
using a tag that reads a text file into a variable line by line. I can then
search, LINE BY LINE, for individual text (aka TEST names), replace that
SINGLE line of text, then write the entire file back out to disk with that
single line changed. Tto do this with CFFILE, you would have to do some
looping through the file, looking for carriage returns, etc. This tag
removes the complexity and does it for you.


Thanks for the input...

--
Scot


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 Robertson
 Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 3:34 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Opinions on web interface
 
 
 Have you thought of giving users more control over the 
 process?  As in a db tie-in to tests, weights and actions?  I 
 use CF as well and I'm figuring on doing something that will 
 allow enablement of a particular test, or its disablement, 
 coupled to setting the test weight and action performed.  
 Should be fairly simple to use cffile to write out a Declude 
 file with the dangerous stuff hardcoded into it.  Probably 30 
 days away from having the time to finally do it.
 
 I get customization requests daily from this or that user.  
 Nobody wants the same thing.  Frankly I'm sick of hearing it 
 and am ready to turn the process over to the user and let 
 them have at it if they want to be the antispam genius.
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Opinions on web interface

2003-11-06 Thread Matthew Bramble




Scot,

Nice job!

BTW, IMail managed passwords could be modified by way of a script.
There's a tool out there which will decrypt the passwords from your
registry, and I would imagine that you could sync that with your
database without having to convert IMail over to SQL, and hand off new
passwords by way of the built in IMail programs which are also used by
the Web mail products.

Try the following tool and run it with the command
"c:\path\extractUsers.exe -f c:\extractusers"

 http://dev.myownemail.com/Imail/ExtractUsers.htm

In the very least, you could parse the output files, or probably
redirect the output to your database at regular intervals or after
every password change???

Matt


Scot Desort wrote:

  I just finished throwing together a web interface to allow our customers to
self-maintain their spam thresholds, whitelists and declude actions. It's
very simple, but does everything we need. Written in ColdFusion, SQL
database to store settings, with a custom tag that writes the text files to
disk for Declude to read. The only thing that would be nice would be to have
it sync the password with the IMAIL password. I suppose one of these days I
will convert all of my domains to SQL for IMAIL password storage, which
would solve the problem.

Your comments are welcomed:

http://spamwatch.njaccess.com

demo login
user name: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
pw: spam

Feel free to play around. It's not a live account.

Thanks,


--
Scot


- Original Message - 
From: "R. Scott Perry" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 4:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] WhiteList option questions


  
  

  Just upgrading Declude after a fair amount of time.  The docs say that
  

  
  the
  
  

  white list file should go into $default$.junkmail.  Just wanted to
  

  
  confirm
  
  

  it goes there and not global.cfg.
  

That is correct.  The WHITELISTFILE option is designed for incoming mail
only, and only applies to the \IMail\Declude\$default$.JunkMail and
per-user/per-domain files.

-Scott

  





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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Opinions on web interface

2003-11-06 Thread Scot Desort
Thanks Matt. 

Geez, one time last year I searched the net endlessly for something like
that util. I came up with tons of stuff to extract users and domain lists,
and even old security exploits in Imail 4.x and 5.x that allowed you to
easily go into the registry and pull passwords out. But this util could be
the answer for me since it pulls passwords. I really didn't want to force
users to use 2 passwords, but I didn't want to hold up the interface being
released. And let's face it, many of them can't remember their email
password anyway since everything is autosaved. But I will look at this util.

Thanks again,

Scot



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Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 3:53 PM
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Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Opinions on web interface


Scot,

Nice job!

BTW, IMail managed passwords could be modified by way of a script.  There's
a tool out there which will decrypt the passwords from your registry, and I
would imagine that you could sync that with your database without having to
convert IMail over to SQL, and hand off new passwords by way of the built in
IMail programs which are also used by the Web mail products.

Try the following tool and run it with the command c:\path\extractUsers.exe
-f c:\extractusers

http://dev.myownemail.com/Imail/ExtractUsers.htm

In the very least, you could parse the output files, or probably redirect
the output to your database at regular intervals or after every password
change???

Matt


Scot Desort wrote:

I just finished throwing together a web interface to allow our customers to
self-maintain their spam thresholds, whitelists and declude actions. It's
very simple, but does everything we need. Written in ColdFusion, SQL
database to store settings, with a custom tag that writes the text files to
disk for Declude to read. The only thing that would be nice would be to have
it sync the password with the IMAIL password. I suppose one of these days I
will convert all of my domains to SQL for IMAIL password storage, which
would solve the problem.

Your comments are welcomed:

http://spamwatch.njaccess.com

demo login
user name: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
pw: spam

Feel free to play around. It's not a live account.

Thanks,


--
Scot


- Original Message - 
From: R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 4:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] WhiteList option questions


  
Just upgrading Declude after a fair amount of time.  The docs say that
  
the
  
white list file should go into $default$.junkmail.  Just wanted to
  
confirm
  
it goes there and not global.cfg.
  
That is correct.  The WHITELISTFILE option is designed for incoming mail
only, and only applies to the \IMail\Declude\$default$.JunkMail and
per-user/per-domain files.

-Scott


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Opinions on web interface

2003-11-06 Thread Daniel Grotjan
Scot,
The web interface looks good.  I created something similar using ASP and a custom COM 
object I wrote.  I uses Imail rules instead of the individual junkmail files to 
process the mail based on weight test.  I implemented it about a month ago and so far 
we have over a thousand users using it and all of them are thrilled about it.  I don't 
have a demo set up, but I have a screenshot of it if you want to see.  
http://www.kimbanet.com/junkmail.jpg

Daniel
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Opinions on web interface

2003-11-06 Thread Jason Newland
Would you be interested in sharing this. It looks great!

Thanks!

Jason


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Scot,
The web interface looks good.  I created something similar using ASP and
a custom COM object I wrote.  I uses Imail rules instead of the
individual junkmail files to process the mail based on weight test.  I
implemented it about a month ago and so far we have over a thousand
users using it and all of them are thrilled about it.  I don't have a
demo set up, but I have a screenshot of it if you want to see.
http://www.kimbanet.com/junkmail.jpg

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Opinions on web interface

2003-11-06 Thread Burzin Sumariwalla
Very Nice.

Burzin

At 12:27 PM 11/6/2003, you wrote:
I just finished throwing together a web interface to allow our customers to
self-maintain their spam thresholds, whitelists and declude actions. It's
very simple, but does everything we need. Written in ColdFusion, SQL
database to store settings, with a custom tag that writes the text files to
disk for Declude to read. The only thing that would be nice would be to have
it sync the password with the IMAIL password. I suppose one of these days I
will convert all of my domains to SQL for IMAIL password storage, which
would solve the problem.
Your comments are welcomed:

http://spamwatch.njaccess.com

demo login
user name: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
pw: spam
Feel free to play around. It's not a live account.

Thanks,

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Scot
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Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 4:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] WhiteList option questions

 Just upgrading Declude after a fair amount of time.  The docs say that
the
 white list file should go into $default$.junkmail.  Just wanted to
confirm
 it goes there and not global.cfg.

 That is correct.  The WHITELISTFILE option is designed for incoming mail
 only, and only applies to the \IMail\Declude\$default$.JunkMail and
 per-user/per-domain files.

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Opinions on web interface

2003-11-06 Thread Scot Desort
No. This code runs on a separate server. But it must have access to the
/imail/declude folder on the target server via network shares, etc. It needs
to write the declude junkmail files to disk.

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From: ISPhuset Nordic / Benny Samuelsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 5:43 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Opinions on web interface


 Do you hav e to run it on the same server as the mail server is running ?


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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scot Desort
 Sent: 6. november 2003 22:44
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Thanks Keith.

 A bunch of folks have asked about the code. I have no problem sharing it.
I want to clean it up a bit, add comments, and put
 together a db schema for reference, then I will post a URL for download to
the list. Scott can then place a link on his add-on page
 if he wants.

 I am not a professional CF programmer, so some of the code will be a
little rough. But it's such a small piece of code, there's
 probably only a few things that could be done to tune it up.

 --
 Scot

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  That's very well done. We use ColdFusion here, would you be willing to
  send a copy of your code? Or is this more of a $ item?
 
  Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator VantageMed Operations (Kansas
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   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Scot Desort
   Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 12:28 PM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Opinions on web interface
  
  
   I just finished throwing together a web interface to allow
   our customers to
   self-maintain their spam thresholds, whitelists and declude
   actions. It's
   very simple, but does everything we need. Written in ColdFusion, SQL
   database to store settings, with a custom tag that writes the
   text files to
   disk for Declude to read. The only thing that would be nice
   would be to have
   it sync the password with the IMAIL password. I suppose one
   of these days I
   will convert all of my domains to SQL for IMAIL password
   storage, which
   would solve the problem.
  
   Your comments are welcomed:
  
   http://spamwatch.njaccess.com
  
   demo login
   user name: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   pw: spam
  
   Feel free to play around. It's not a live account.
  
   Thanks,
  
  
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   From: R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 4:30 PM
   Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] WhiteList option questions
  
  
   
Just upgrading Declude after a fair amount of time.  The
   docs say that
   the
white list file should go into $default$.junkmail.  Just
  wanted to
   confirm
it goes there and not global.cfg.
   
That is correct.  The WHITELISTFILE option is designed for
   incoming mail
only, and only applies to the
  \IMail\Declude\$default$.JunkMail and
per-user/per-domain files.
   
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Opinions on web interface

2003-11-06 Thread Scot Desort
Jason-

I will be posting a link to download the code once I clean it up and
document it. The code is very rough, but it's small and runs fast because
there really isn't much processing going on. You'll be able to tweak it to
suit your needs.

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 Would you be interested in sharing this. It looks great!

 Thanks!

 Jason


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 Scot,
 The web interface looks good.  I created something similar using ASP and
 a custom COM object I wrote.  I uses Imail rules instead of the
 individual junkmail files to process the mail based on weight test.  I
 implemented it about a month ago and so far we have over a thousand
 users using it and all of them are thrilled about it.  I don't have a
 demo set up, but I have a screenshot of it if you want to see.
 http://www.kimbanet.com/junkmail.jpg

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Opinions on web interface

2003-11-06 Thread Scot Desort
Very nice Daniel. I had not thought about doing it that way. I could
certainly have CF modify the rules.ima file instead of the junkmail file.
But you lose the ability to offer a SUBJECT action, and a lot of my users
seem to like that.

I like the idea of integrating it into the imail web interface. But I have
so many users who have never used the imail web product because, quite
frankly, it's one of the worst webmail interfaces out there as far as
stability and user friendliness goes (and I tend to agree with my users). I
have thought about implementing SquirrelMail on a separate box for a long
time now, after getting so frustrated with Imail Webmail. But losing the
tight integration with imail has always stopped me (not being able to change
passwords, set vacation processing, etc).

How are you handling the auto-deletion of expired messages in the junkmail
folder?

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 5:02 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Opinions on web interface


 Scot,
 The web interface looks good.  I created something similar using ASP and a
custom COM object I wrote.  I uses Imail rules instead of the individual
junkmail files to process the mail based on weight test.  I implemented it
about a month ago and so far we have over a thousand users using it and all
of them are thrilled about it.  I don't have a demo set up, but I have a
screenshot of it if you want to see.  http://www.kimbanet.com/junkmail.jpg

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