RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SOT somewhat offtopic

2004-07-16 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Serge, POP and IMAP are certainly available in Exchange, but if I read this
architecture correctly, what you client probably wants is the ETRN extension
to SMTP.

I used this once under Exchange 5.5 to fetch mail over dial up.  Here's an
ancient article on the subject to get you started on some basic research.

http://www.winnetmag.com/MicrosoftExchangeOutlook/Article/ArticleID/5599/559
9.html

Andrew 8)

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Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] SOT somewhat offtopic


We have a client curently using MDaemon, all his messages are stored here in
the same mailbox (nobody)
then his mdaemon server retrieves the messages (using pop) and dispatche to
his specific users mailboxes.

He want to move to exchange, which apparently cannot use pop
so we need to switch to store and forward method

1- With store and forward, does declude still scan the messages for
spam/viruses ?

2- Can we use imail rules to delete spam messages that are flaged by declude
(when using store and forward) ?

3- can anyone give me a link then explain the store and forward
configuration (for Imail, DNS MX, and exchange) ?

Thanks in advance


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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SOT somewhat offtopic

2004-07-16 Thread Serge
 Serge, POP and IMAP are certainly available in Exchange,

Do you mean that exchange server can use POP to retrieve the messages from
the nobody alias mailbox on our imail server ?
If we use ETRN to store and forward on our imail, are the messages scanned
by declude ?

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From: Colbeck, Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 5:17 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SOT somewhat offtopic


 Serge, POP and IMAP are certainly available in Exchange, but if I read
this
 architecture correctly, what you client probably wants is the ETRN
extension
 to SMTP.

 I used this once under Exchange 5.5 to fetch mail over dial up.  Here's an
 ancient article on the subject to get you started on some basic research.


http://www.winnetmag.com/MicrosoftExchangeOutlook/Article/ArticleID/5599/559
 9.html

 Andrew 8)

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 From: Serge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 9:57 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] SOT somewhat offtopic


 We have a client curently using MDaemon, all his messages are stored here
in
 the same mailbox (nobody)
 then his mdaemon server retrieves the messages (using pop) and dispatche
to
 his specific users mailboxes.

 He want to move to exchange, which apparently cannot use pop
 so we need to switch to store and forward method

 1- With store and forward, does declude still scan the messages for
 spam/viruses ?

 2- Can we use imail rules to delete spam messages that are flaged by
declude
 (when using store and forward) ?

 3- can anyone give me a link then explain the store and forward
 configuration (for Imail, DNS MX, and exchange) ?

 Thanks in advance


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SOT somewhat offtopic

2004-07-16 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Yes, change to a Store and Forward for them. I did that exact same thing
last year when a client moved from MDaemon to Exchange. 

1. Yes.
2. Yes, but not needed. Use Declude Junkmail actions and per domain
configuration.
3. It is in the archives.

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Serge
 Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 9:57 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] SOT somewhat offtopic
 
 We have a client curently using MDaemon, all his messages are stored here
in
 the same mailbox (nobody)
 then his mdaemon server retrieves the messages (using pop) and dispatche
to
 his specific users mailboxes.
 
 He want to move to exchange, which apparently cannot use pop
 so we need to switch to store and forward method
 
 1- With store and forward, does declude still scan the messages for
 spam/viruses ?
 
 2- Can we use imail rules to delete spam messages that are flaged by
declude
 (when using store and forward) ?
 
 3- can anyone give me a link then explain the store and forward
 configuration (for Imail, DNS MX, and exchange) ?
 
 Thanks in advance
 
 
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SOT somewhat offtopic

2004-07-16 Thread Serge
thanks for all that helped


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From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 6:00 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SOT somewhat offtopic


 Yes, change to a Store and Forward for them. I did that exact same thing
 last year when a client moved from MDaemon to Exchange.

 1. Yes.
 2. Yes, but not needed. Use Declude Junkmail actions and per domain
 configuration.
 3. It is in the archives.

 John Tolmachoff
 Engineer/Consultant/Owner
 eServices For You

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  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Serge
  Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 9:57 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] SOT somewhat offtopic
 
  We have a client curently using MDaemon, all his messages are stored
here
 in
  the same mailbox (nobody)
  then his mdaemon server retrieves the messages (using pop) and dispatche
 to
  his specific users mailboxes.
 
  He want to move to exchange, which apparently cannot use pop
  so we need to switch to store and forward method
 
  1- With store and forward, does declude still scan the messages for
  spam/viruses ?
 
  2- Can we use imail rules to delete spam messages that are flaged by
 declude
  (when using store and forward) ?
 
  3- can anyone give me a link then explain the store and forward
  configuration (for Imail, DNS MX, and exchange) ?
 
  Thanks in advance
 
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SOT somewhat offtopic

2004-07-16 Thread Grant Griffith - Declude JM
We do this for a client and had the nobody alias setup to goto a certain
email address.  Then Exchange POP's that account and delivers the email to
the users on the exchange box.  This solution does scan emails with Declude.
We dropped the nobody alias and setup individual aliases though as we were
getting killed with dictionary attacks.  Just setup aliases to point to a
global box and have Exchange POP into it.  It is simple.

Sincerely,
Grant Griffith
EI8HT LEGS Enhanced Web Management
A Division of ETC
http://www.getafreewebsite.com
877-483-3393

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Colbeck, Andrew
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 12:17 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SOT somewhat offtopic


Serge, POP and IMAP are certainly available in Exchange, but if I read this
architecture correctly, what you client probably wants is the ETRN extension
to SMTP.

I used this once under Exchange 5.5 to fetch mail over dial up.  Here's an
ancient article on the subject to get you started on some basic research.

http://www.winnetmag.com/MicrosoftExchangeOutlook/Article/ArticleID/5599/559
9.html

Andrew 8)

-Original Message-
From: Serge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 9:57 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] SOT somewhat offtopic


We have a client curently using MDaemon, all his messages are stored here in
the same mailbox (nobody)
then his mdaemon server retrieves the messages (using pop) and dispatche to
his specific users mailboxes.

He want to move to exchange, which apparently cannot use pop
so we need to switch to store and forward method

1- With store and forward, does declude still scan the messages for
spam/viruses ?

2- Can we use imail rules to delete spam messages that are flaged by declude
(when using store and forward) ?

3- can anyone give me a link then explain the store and forward
configuration (for Imail, DNS MX, and exchange) ?

Thanks in advance


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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SOT somewhat offtopic

2004-07-16 Thread Serge
 Just setup aliases to point to a
 global box and have Exchange POP into it.  It is simple.

The client said Exchange cannot pop in an imail mailbox
Are you sure it can be done ?
To you have a link about how to configure the feature in exchange ?


- Original Message - 
From: Grant Griffith - Declude JM [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 6:30 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SOT somewhat offtopic


 We do this for a client and had the nobody alias setup to goto a certain
 email address.  Then Exchange POP's that account and delivers the email to
 the users on the exchange box.  This solution does scan emails with
Declude.
 We dropped the nobody alias and setup individual aliases though as we were
 getting killed with dictionary attacks.  Just setup aliases to point to a
 global box and have Exchange POP into it.  It is simple.

 Sincerely,
 Grant Griffith
 EI8HT LEGS Enhanced Web Management
 A Division of ETC
 http://www.getafreewebsite.com
 877-483-3393

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Colbeck, Andrew
 Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 12:17 PM
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SOT somewhat offtopic


 Serge, POP and IMAP are certainly available in Exchange, but if I read
this
 architecture correctly, what you client probably wants is the ETRN
extension
 to SMTP.

 I used this once under Exchange 5.5 to fetch mail over dial up.  Here's an
 ancient article on the subject to get you started on some basic research.


http://www.winnetmag.com/MicrosoftExchangeOutlook/Article/ArticleID/5599/559
 9.html

 Andrew 8)

 -Original Message-
 From: Serge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 9:57 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] SOT somewhat offtopic


 We have a client curently using MDaemon, all his messages are stored here
in
 the same mailbox (nobody)
 then his mdaemon server retrieves the messages (using pop) and dispatche
to
 his specific users mailboxes.

 He want to move to exchange, which apparently cannot use pop
 so we need to switch to store and forward method

 1- With store and forward, does declude still scan the messages for
 spam/viruses ?

 2- Can we use imail rules to delete spam messages that are flaged by
declude
 (when using store and forward) ?

 3- can anyone give me a link then explain the store and forward
 configuration (for Imail, DNS MX, and exchange) ?

 Thanks in advance


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SOT somewhat offtopic

2004-07-16 Thread Grant Griffith - Declude JM
I know it can be done as we have a client that POP's into it all the time.
I am not familiar with Exchange, but it might be an add-on tool or
something.  I see the POP lines in the log every day.

Sincerely,
Grant Griffith
EI8HT LEGS Enhanced Web Management
A Division of ETC
http://www.getafreewebsite.com
877-483-3393

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Serge
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 1:47 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SOT somewhat offtopic


 Just setup aliases to point to a
 global box and have Exchange POP into it.  It is simple.

The client said Exchange cannot pop in an imail mailbox
Are you sure it can be done ?
To you have a link about how to configure the feature in exchange ?


- Original Message -
From: Grant Griffith - Declude JM [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 6:30 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SOT somewhat offtopic


 We do this for a client and had the nobody alias setup to goto a certain
 email address.  Then Exchange POP's that account and delivers the email to
 the users on the exchange box.  This solution does scan emails with
Declude.
 We dropped the nobody alias and setup individual aliases though as we were
 getting killed with dictionary attacks.  Just setup aliases to point to a
 global box and have Exchange POP into it.  It is simple.

 Sincerely,
 Grant Griffith
 EI8HT LEGS Enhanced Web Management
 A Division of ETC
 http://www.getafreewebsite.com
 877-483-3393

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Colbeck, Andrew
 Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 12:17 PM
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SOT somewhat offtopic


 Serge, POP and IMAP are certainly available in Exchange, but if I read
this
 architecture correctly, what you client probably wants is the ETRN
extension
 to SMTP.

 I used this once under Exchange 5.5 to fetch mail over dial up.  Here's an
 ancient article on the subject to get you started on some basic research.


http://www.winnetmag.com/MicrosoftExchangeOutlook/Article/ArticleID/5599/559
 9.html

 Andrew 8)

 -Original Message-
 From: Serge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 9:57 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] SOT somewhat offtopic


 We have a client curently using MDaemon, all his messages are stored here
in
 the same mailbox (nobody)
 then his mdaemon server retrieves the messages (using pop) and dispatche
to
 his specific users mailboxes.

 He want to move to exchange, which apparently cannot use pop
 so we need to switch to store and forward method

 1- With store and forward, does declude still scan the messages for
 spam/viruses ?

 2- Can we use imail rules to delete spam messages that are flaged by
declude
 (when using store and forward) ?

 3- can anyone give me a link then explain the store and forward
 configuration (for Imail, DNS MX, and exchange) ?

 Thanks in advance


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SOT somewhat offtopic

2004-07-16 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Exchange can not do it natively, or not dependably. There are 3rd party
add-ons available for that function. Check out MSExchange.org.

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You


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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Grant Griffith - Declude JM
 Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 11:54 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SOT somewhat offtopic
 
 I know it can be done as we have a client that POP's into it all the time.
 I am not familiar with Exchange, but it might be an add-on tool or
 something.  I see the POP lines in the log every day.
 
 Sincerely,
 Grant Griffith
 EI8HT LEGS Enhanced Web Management
 A Division of ETC
 http://www.getafreewebsite.com
 877-483-3393
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Serge
 Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 1:47 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SOT somewhat offtopic
 
 
  Just setup aliases to point to a
  global box and have Exchange POP into it.  It is simple.
 
 The client said Exchange cannot pop in an imail mailbox
 Are you sure it can be done ?
 To you have a link about how to configure the feature in exchange ?
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Grant Griffith - Declude JM [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 6:30 PM
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SOT somewhat offtopic
 
 
  We do this for a client and had the nobody alias setup to goto a certain
  email address.  Then Exchange POP's that account and delivers the email
to
  the users on the exchange box.  This solution does scan emails with
 Declude.
  We dropped the nobody alias and setup individual aliases though as we
were
  getting killed with dictionary attacks.  Just setup aliases to point to
a
  global box and have Exchange POP into it.  It is simple.
 
  Sincerely,
  Grant Griffith
  EI8HT LEGS Enhanced Web Management
  A Division of ETC
  http://www.getafreewebsite.com
  877-483-3393
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Colbeck, Andrew
  Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 12:17 PM
  To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
  Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SOT somewhat offtopic
 
 
  Serge, POP and IMAP are certainly available in Exchange, but if I read
 this
  architecture correctly, what you client probably wants is the ETRN
 extension
  to SMTP.
 
  I used this once under Exchange 5.5 to fetch mail over dial up.  Here's
an
  ancient article on the subject to get you started on some basic
research.
 
 

http://www.winnetmag.com/MicrosoftExchangeOutlook/Article/ArticleID/5599/559
  9.html
 
  Andrew 8)
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Serge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 9:57 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] SOT somewhat offtopic
 
 
  We have a client curently using MDaemon, all his messages are stored
here
 in
  the same mailbox (nobody)
  then his mdaemon server retrieves the messages (using pop) and dispatche
 to
  his specific users mailboxes.
 
  He want to move to exchange, which apparently cannot use pop
  so we need to switch to store and forward method
 
  1- With store and forward, does declude still scan the messages for
  spam/viruses ?
 
  2- Can we use imail rules to delete spam messages that are flaged by
 declude
  (when using store and forward) ?
 
  3- can anyone give me a link then explain the store and forward
  configuration (for Imail, DNS MX, and exchange) ?
 
  Thanks in advance
 
 
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