RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

2013-04-18 Thread David Barker
Not that I can think of, the real advantage is it shuts off all  internal 
validations, AVG which has already stopped, SNF and CT which will stop anytime 
soon.

-Original Message-
From: Andy Schmidt [mailto:andy_schm...@hm-software.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 1:43 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Thanks David,

So, OTHER than Sniffer, any OTHER advantages of using the HOSTS trick vs. the 
Bypass key?

-Original Message-
From: David Barker [mailto:david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 1:09 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

If internal SNF is still ON then it can conflict with external Message Sniffer 
by grabbing the port which SNF uses. By using our fix will ensure internal SNF 
is turned OFF. If using the bypass key has everything OFF then that is fine too.

-Original Message-
From: Andy Schmidt [mailto:andy_schm...@hm-software.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:46 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

So - is there any advantage of using the hosts file trick (to invalidate the 
license server IP address) http://mailsbestfriend.com/declude-fix
vs. using the special bypass license code?

Does one enable more functions that the other?

-Original Message-
From: David Barker [mailto:david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:31 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Yes Internal Sniffer is no longer a valid option. Need to switch to external.

-Original Message-
From: Andy Schmidt [mailto:andy_schm...@hm-software.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:06 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Uh - but with that code, the internal SNF is turned off?

So one has to configure Sniffer has an external test with a separate Sniffer 
license code?

-Original Message-
From: Stephan Chayer [mailto:scha...@intrasoft.net]
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 5:37 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Use this key: CODE 28607230-BF21-4CDE-A59B-A451CC7C9CA0

-Message d'origine-
De : SM Admin [mailto:imailad...@bcwebhost.net] Envoyé : 17 avril, 2013 2:43 À 
: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Objet : Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Apparently I was too quick on the draw as this line has since been added to the 
diag file:

04/16/2013 22:24:21.947[BB86F9-606322-C04138-958B5A-AB7343-94F75B]
IS INVALID KEY

Did someone say something about new keys?

-Original Message-
From: SM Admin
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 10:25 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

I noticed today that Declude wasn't processing.  I checked the diag file and it 
has the usual entries at the top plus an entry at the bottom saying that the 
Sniffer license is invalid.  How is that?

So then I restarted the Declud service and now the diag file only shows
this:

Declude 4.12.02 Diagnostics
Compilation Platform: SmarterMail
Copyright (c) 2000-2013 Declude, Inc.

Host Name   mail1.bcwebhost.net
Declude Key redacted

So I have no idea what's going on. Anyone?

-Original Message-
From: Brian Baker
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:09 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Looks like tonight we better figure out a new approach. My declude diag file is 
now reading declude lic as invalid. Anyone else?


- Original Message -
From: Todd Richards to...@nnepa.com
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 9:34 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?



What system is that?  Our users are getting hammered with spam.  Reminds me of 
the days, many years ago, before I happened upon Declude...

Todd



-Original Message-
On Sunday, April 14, 2013 10:24 PM,  John Doyle wrote:
I have reverted to a system that works.




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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

2013-04-18 Thread John Dobbin
David - with your support extended to the community, will you be able to offer 
maintenance of the all_list.dat as well as the filters?


-Original Message-
From: David Barker [mailto:david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 1:02 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Not that I can think of, the real advantage is it shuts off all  internal 
validations, AVG which has already stopped, SNF and CT which will stop anytime 
soon.

-Original Message-
From: Andy Schmidt [mailto:andy_schm...@hm-software.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 1:43 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Thanks David,

So, OTHER than Sniffer, any OTHER advantages of using the HOSTS trick vs. the 
Bypass key?

-Original Message-
From: David Barker [mailto:david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 1:09 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

If internal SNF is still ON then it can conflict with external Message Sniffer 
by grabbing the port which SNF uses. By using our fix will ensure internal SNF 
is turned OFF. If using the bypass key has everything OFF then that is fine too.

-Original Message-
From: Andy Schmidt [mailto:andy_schm...@hm-software.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:46 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

So - is there any advantage of using the hosts file trick (to invalidate the 
license server IP address) http://mailsbestfriend.com/declude-fix
vs. using the special bypass license code?

Does one enable more functions that the other?

-Original Message-
From: David Barker [mailto:david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:31 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Yes Internal Sniffer is no longer a valid option. Need to switch to external.

-Original Message-
From: Andy Schmidt [mailto:andy_schm...@hm-software.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:06 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Uh - but with that code, the internal SNF is turned off?

So one has to configure Sniffer has an external test with a separate Sniffer 
license code?

-Original Message-
From: Stephan Chayer [mailto:scha...@intrasoft.net]
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 5:37 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Use this key: CODE 28607230-BF21-4CDE-A59B-A451CC7C9CA0

-Message d'origine-
De : SM Admin [mailto:imailad...@bcwebhost.net] Envoyé : 17 avril, 2013 2:43 À 
: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Objet : Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Apparently I was too quick on the draw as this line has since been added to the 
diag file:

04/16/2013 22:24:21.947[BB86F9-606322-C04138-958B5A-AB7343-94F75B]
IS INVALID KEY

Did someone say something about new keys?

-Original Message-
From: SM Admin
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 10:25 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

I noticed today that Declude wasn't processing.  I checked the diag file and it 
has the usual entries at the top plus an entry at the bottom saying that the 
Sniffer license is invalid.  How is that?

So then I restarted the Declud service and now the diag file only shows
this:

Declude 4.12.02 Diagnostics
Compilation Platform: SmarterMail
Copyright (c) 2000-2013 Declude, Inc.

Host Name   mail1.bcwebhost.net
Declude Key redacted

So I have no idea what's going on. Anyone?

-Original Message-
From: Brian Baker
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:09 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Looks like tonight we better figure out a new approach. My declude diag file is 
now reading declude lic as invalid. Anyone else?


- Original Message -
From: Todd Richards to...@nnepa.com
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 9:34 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?



What system is that?  Our users are getting hammered with spam.  Reminds me of 
the days, many years ago, before I happened upon Declude...

Todd



-Original Message-
On Sunday, April 14, 2013 10:24 PM,  John Doyle wrote:
I have reverted to a system that works.




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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

2013-04-18 Thread Nick Hayer
Hi David,

Would you mind explaining your hosts trick?  Not how a host file works but why 
this will circumvent licensing

Thank you

-Nick

MadRiverAccess.com|Skywaves.net Tech Support
US/Canada 877-873-6482 or International +1-802-229-6574
Emergency Support 24/7: supp...@skywaves.net
General and Non-Emergency support ticket:
http://www.skywaves.net/content/secure/support_ticket.htm


 From: David Barker david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 1:11 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

If internal SNF is still ON then it can conflict with external Message Sniffer 
by grabbing the port which SNF uses. By using our fix will ensure internal SNF 
is turned OFF. If using the bypass key has everything OFF then that is fine too.

-Original Message-
From: Andy Schmidt [mailto:andy_schm...@hm-software.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:46 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

So - is there any advantage of using the hosts file trick (to invalidate the 
license server IP address) http://mailsbestfriend.com/declude-fix
vs. using the special bypass license code?

Does one enable more functions that the other?

-Original Message-
From: David Barker [mailto:david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:31 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Yes Internal Sniffer is no longer a valid option. Need to switch to external.

-Original Message-
From: Andy Schmidt [mailto:andy_schm...@hm-software.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:06 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Uh - but with that code, the internal SNF is turned off?

So one has to configure Sniffer has an external test with a separate Sniffer 
license code?

-Original Message-
From: Stephan Chayer [mailto:scha...@intrasoft.net]
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 5:37 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Use this key: CODE 28607230-BF21-4CDE-A59B-A451CC7C9CA0

-Message d'origine-
De : SM Admin [mailto:imailad...@bcwebhost.net] Envoyé : 17 avril, 2013 2:43 À 
: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Objet : Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Apparently I was too quick on the draw as this line has since been added to the 
diag file:

04/16/2013 22:24:21.947[BB86F9-606322-C04138-958B5A-AB7343-94F75B]
IS INVALID KEY

Did someone say something about new keys?

-Original Message-
From: SM Admin
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 10:25 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

I noticed today that Declude wasn't processing.  I checked the diag file and it 
has the usual entries at the top plus an entry at the bottom saying that the 
Sniffer license is invalid.  How is that?

So then I restarted the Declud service and now the diag file only shows
this:

Declude 4.12.02 Diagnostics
Compilation Platform: SmarterMail
Copyright (c) 2000-2013 Declude, Inc.

Host Name   mail1.bcwebhost.net
Declude Key redacted

So I have no idea what's going on. Anyone?

-Original Message-
From: Brian Baker
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:09 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Looks like tonight we better figure out a new approach. My declude diag file is 
now reading declude lic as invalid. Anyone else?

- Original Message -
From: Todd Richards to...@nnepa.com
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 9:34 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

What system is that?  Our users are getting hammered with spam.  Reminds me of 
the days, many years ago, before I happened upon Declude...

Todd

-Original Message-
On Sunday, April 14, 2013 10:24 PM,  John Doyle wrote:
I have reverted to a system that works.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

2013-04-18 Thread David Barker
Filters yes all_list.dat working on that.

-Original Message-
From: John Dobbin [mailto:jo...@penpublishing.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 9:14 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

David - with your support extended to the community, will you be able to offer 
maintenance of the all_list.dat as well as the filters?


-Original Message-
From: David Barker [mailto:david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 1:02 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Not that I can think of, the real advantage is it shuts off all  internal 
validations, AVG which has already stopped, SNF and CT which will stop anytime 
soon.

-Original Message-
From: Andy Schmidt [mailto:andy_schm...@hm-software.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 1:43 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Thanks David,

So, OTHER than Sniffer, any OTHER advantages of using the HOSTS trick vs. the 
Bypass key?

-Original Message-
From: David Barker [mailto:david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 1:09 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

If internal SNF is still ON then it can conflict with external Message Sniffer 
by grabbing the port which SNF uses. By using our fix will ensure internal SNF 
is turned OFF. If using the bypass key has everything OFF then that is fine too.

-Original Message-
From: Andy Schmidt [mailto:andy_schm...@hm-software.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:46 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

So - is there any advantage of using the hosts file trick (to invalidate the 
license server IP address) http://mailsbestfriend.com/declude-fix
vs. using the special bypass license code?

Does one enable more functions that the other?

-Original Message-
From: David Barker [mailto:david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:31 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Yes Internal Sniffer is no longer a valid option. Need to switch to external.

-Original Message-
From: Andy Schmidt [mailto:andy_schm...@hm-software.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:06 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Uh - but with that code, the internal SNF is turned off?

So one has to configure Sniffer has an external test with a separate Sniffer 
license code?

-Original Message-
From: Stephan Chayer [mailto:scha...@intrasoft.net]
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 5:37 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Use this key: CODE 28607230-BF21-4CDE-A59B-A451CC7C9CA0

-Message d'origine-
De : SM Admin [mailto:imailad...@bcwebhost.net] Envoyé : 17 avril, 2013 2:43 À 
: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Objet : Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Apparently I was too quick on the draw as this line has since been added to the 
diag file:

04/16/2013 22:24:21.947[BB86F9-606322-C04138-958B5A-AB7343-94F75B]
IS INVALID KEY

Did someone say something about new keys?

-Original Message-
From: SM Admin
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 10:25 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

I noticed today that Declude wasn't processing.  I checked the diag file and it 
has the usual entries at the top plus an entry at the bottom saying that the 
Sniffer license is invalid.  How is that?

So then I restarted the Declud service and now the diag file only shows
this:

Declude 4.12.02 Diagnostics
Compilation Platform: SmarterMail
Copyright (c) 2000-2013 Declude, Inc.

Host Name   mail1.bcwebhost.net
Declude Key redacted

So I have no idea what's going on. Anyone?

-Original Message-
From: Brian Baker
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:09 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Looks like tonight we better figure out a new approach. My declude diag file is 
now reading declude lic as invalid. Anyone else?


- Original Message -
From: Todd Richards to...@nnepa.com
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 9:34 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?



What system is that?  Our users are getting hammered with spam.  Reminds me of 
the days, many years ago, before I happened upon Declude...

Todd



-Original Message-
On Sunday, April 14, 2013 10:24 PM,  John Doyle wrote:
I have reverted to a system that works.




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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

2013-04-18 Thread David Barker
Already posted…. But here again:



If internal SNF is still ON then it can conflict with external Message Sniffer 
by grabbing the port which SNF uses. By using our fix will ensure internal SNF 
is turned OFF. If using the bypass key has everything OFF then that is fine too.





From: Nick Hayer [mailto:n...@madriveraccess.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 9:17 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?



Hi David,

Would you mind explaining your hosts trick?  Not how a host file works but why 
this will circumvent licensing

Thank you

-Nick

MadRiverAccess.com|Skywaves.net Tech Support
US/Canada 877-873-6482 or International +1-802-229-6574
Emergency Support 24/7: supp...@skywaves.net
General and Non-Emergency support ticket:
http://www.skywaves.net/content/secure/support_ticket.htm 
https://www.skywaves.com/content/secure/support_ticket.htm



  _

From: David Barker david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 1:11 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?


If internal SNF is still ON then it can conflict with external Message Sniffer 
by grabbing the port which SNF uses. By using our fix will ensure internal SNF 
is turned OFF. If using the bypass key has everything OFF then that is fine too.

-Original Message-
From: Andy Schmidt [mailto:andy_schm...@hm-software.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:46 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

So - is there any advantage of using the hosts file trick (to invalidate the 
license server IP address) http://mailsbestfriend.com/declude-fix
vs. using the special bypass license code?

Does one enable more functions that the other?

-Original Message-
From: David Barker [mailto:david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:31 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Yes Internal Sniffer is no longer a valid option. Need to switch to external.

-Original Message-
From: Andy Schmidt [mailto:andy_schm...@hm-software.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:06 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Uh - but with that code, the internal SNF is turned off?

So one has to configure Sniffer has an external test with a separate Sniffer 
license code?

-Original Message-
From: Stephan Chayer [mailto:scha...@intrasoft.net]
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 5:37 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Use this key: CODE 28607230-BF21-4CDE-A59B-A451CC7C9CA0

-Message d'origine-
De : SM Admin [mailto:imailad...@bcwebhost.net] Envoyé : 17 avril, 2013 2:43 À 
: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Objet : Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Apparently I was too quick on the draw as this line has since been added to the 
diag file:

04/16/2013 22:24:21.947 [BB86F9-606322-C04138-958B5A-AB7343-94F75B]
IS INVALID KEY

Did someone say something about new keys?

-Original Message-
From: SM Admin
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 10:25 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

I noticed today that Declude wasn't processing. I checked the diag file and it 
has the usual entries at the top plus an entry at the bottom saying that the 
Sniffer license is invalid. How is that?

So then I restarted the Declud service and now the diag file only shows
this:

Declude 4.12.02 Diagnostics
Compilation Platform: SmarterMail
Copyright (c) 2000-2013 Declude, Inc.

Host Name mail1.bcwebhost.net
Declude Key redacted

So I have no idea what's going on. Anyone?

-Original Message-
From: Brian Baker
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:09 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Looks like tonight we better figure out a new approach. My declude diag file is 
now reading declude lic as invalid. Anyone else?


- Original Message -
From: Todd Richards to...@nnepa.com
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 9:34 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?



What system is that? Our users are getting hammered with spam. Reminds me of 
the days, many years ago, before I happened upon Declude...

Todd



-Original Message-
On Sunday, April 14, 2013 10:24 PM, John Doyle wrote:
I have reverted to a system that works.




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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

2013-04-18 Thread Michael Cummins
Thanks for that.  Mine is now down too, and I am paid up until the end of the 
year with CommTouch, etc.

Very Respectfully,

Michael E. Cummins


-Original Message-
From: Stephan Chayer [mailto:scha...@intrasoft.net]
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 5:37 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?


Use this key: CODE 28607230-BF21-4CDE-A59B-A451CC7C9CA0





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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

2013-04-18 Thread Dave Beckstrom
Was anyone able to download the all_list.dat file from the interim directory
that David posted?  Everything else downloaded for me except that file.

-Original Message-
From: David Barker [mailto:david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 8:37 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Filters yes all_list.dat working on that.

-Original Message-
From: John Dobbin [mailto:jo...@penpublishing.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 9:14 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

David - with your support extended to the community, will you be able to
offer maintenance of the all_list.dat as well as the filters?


-Original Message-
From: David Barker [mailto:david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 1:02 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Not that I can think of, the real advantage is it shuts off all  internal
validations, AVG which has already stopped, SNF and CT which will stop
anytime soon.

-Original Message-
From: Andy Schmidt [mailto:andy_schm...@hm-software.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 1:43 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Thanks David,

So, OTHER than Sniffer, any OTHER advantages of using the HOSTS trick vs.
the Bypass key?

-Original Message-
From: David Barker [mailto:david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 1:09 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

If internal SNF is still ON then it can conflict with external Message
Sniffer by grabbing the port which SNF uses. By using our fix will ensure
internal SNF is turned OFF. If using the bypass key has everything OFF then
that is fine too.

-Original Message-
From: Andy Schmidt [mailto:andy_schm...@hm-software.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:46 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

So - is there any advantage of using the hosts file trick (to invalidate the
license server IP address) http://mailsbestfriend.com/declude-fix
vs. using the special bypass license code?

Does one enable more functions that the other?

-Original Message-
From: David Barker [mailto:david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:31 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Yes Internal Sniffer is no longer a valid option. Need to switch to
external.

-Original Message-
From: Andy Schmidt [mailto:andy_schm...@hm-software.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:06 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Uh - but with that code, the internal SNF is turned off?

So one has to configure Sniffer has an external test with a separate Sniffer
license code?

-Original Message-
From: Stephan Chayer [mailto:scha...@intrasoft.net]
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 5:37 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Use this key: CODE 28607230-BF21-4CDE-A59B-A451CC7C9CA0

-Message d'origine-
De : SM Admin [mailto:imailad...@bcwebhost.net] Envoyé : 17 avril, 2013 2:43
À : Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Objet : Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at
Declude?

Apparently I was too quick on the draw as this line has since been added to
the diag file:

04/16/2013 22:24:21.947[BB86F9-606322-C04138-958B5A-AB7343-94F75B]
IS INVALID KEY

Did someone say something about new keys?

-Original Message-
From: SM Admin
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 10:25 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

I noticed today that Declude wasn't processing.  I checked the diag file and
it has the usual entries at the top plus an entry at the bottom saying that
the Sniffer license is invalid.  How is that?

So then I restarted the Declud service and now the diag file only shows
this:

Declude 4.12.02 Diagnostics
Compilation Platform: SmarterMail
Copyright (c) 2000-2013 Declude, Inc.

Host Name   mail1.bcwebhost.net
Declude Key redacted

So I have no idea what's going on. Anyone?

-Original Message-
From: Brian Baker
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:09 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Looks like tonight we better figure out a new approach. My declude diag file
is now reading declude lic as invalid. Anyone else?


- Original Message -
From: Todd Richards to...@nnepa.com
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 9:34 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?



What system is that?  Our users are getting hammered with spam.  Reminds me
of the days, many years ago, before I happened upon Declude...

Todd

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

2013-04-18 Thread Andy Schmidt
Not from THAT folder, but I found it in another folder on the FTP site - same 
recent date.

-Original Message-
From: Dave Beckstrom [mailto:db...@atving.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 9:51 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Was anyone able to download the all_list.dat file from the interim directory 
that David posted?  Everything else downloaded for me except that file.

-Original Message-
From: David Barker [mailto:david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 8:37 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Filters yes all_list.dat working on that.

-Original Message-
From: John Dobbin [mailto:jo...@penpublishing.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 9:14 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

David - with your support extended to the community, will you be able to offer 
maintenance of the all_list.dat as well as the filters?


-Original Message-
From: David Barker [mailto:david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 1:02 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Not that I can think of, the real advantage is it shuts off all  internal 
validations, AVG which has already stopped, SNF and CT which will stop anytime 
soon.

-Original Message-
From: Andy Schmidt [mailto:andy_schm...@hm-software.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 1:43 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Thanks David,

So, OTHER than Sniffer, any OTHER advantages of using the HOSTS trick vs.
the Bypass key?

-Original Message-
From: David Barker [mailto:david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 1:09 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

If internal SNF is still ON then it can conflict with external Message Sniffer 
by grabbing the port which SNF uses. By using our fix will ensure internal SNF 
is turned OFF. If using the bypass key has everything OFF then that is fine too.

-Original Message-
From: Andy Schmidt [mailto:andy_schm...@hm-software.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:46 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

So - is there any advantage of using the hosts file trick (to invalidate the 
license server IP address) http://mailsbestfriend.com/declude-fix
vs. using the special bypass license code?

Does one enable more functions that the other?

-Original Message-
From: David Barker [mailto:david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:31 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Yes Internal Sniffer is no longer a valid option. Need to switch to external.

-Original Message-
From: Andy Schmidt [mailto:andy_schm...@hm-software.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:06 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Uh - but with that code, the internal SNF is turned off?

So one has to configure Sniffer has an external test with a separate Sniffer 
license code?

-Original Message-
From: Stephan Chayer [mailto:scha...@intrasoft.net]
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 5:37 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Use this key: CODE 28607230-BF21-4CDE-A59B-A451CC7C9CA0

-Message d'origine-
De : SM Admin [mailto:imailad...@bcwebhost.net] Envoyé : 17 avril, 2013 2:43 À 
: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Objet : Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Apparently I was too quick on the draw as this line has since been added to the 
diag file:

04/16/2013 22:24:21.947[BB86F9-606322-C04138-958B5A-AB7343-94F75B]
IS INVALID KEY

Did someone say something about new keys?

-Original Message-
From: SM Admin
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 10:25 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

I noticed today that Declude wasn't processing.  I checked the diag file and it 
has the usual entries at the top plus an entry at the bottom saying that the 
Sniffer license is invalid.  How is that?

So then I restarted the Declud service and now the diag file only shows
this:

Declude 4.12.02 Diagnostics
Compilation Platform: SmarterMail
Copyright (c) 2000-2013 Declude, Inc.

Host Name   mail1.bcwebhost.net
Declude Key redacted

So I have no idea what's going on. Anyone?

-Original Message-
From: Brian Baker
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:09 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Looks like tonight we better figure out a new approach. My declude diag file is 
now reading declude lic as invalid. Anyone else?


- Original Message -
From

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

2013-04-18 Thread Randy Armbrecht
I was able to download it from my Declude site login; couldn't download it from 
the interim site



Sincerely,

Randy A.


-Original Message-
From: Dave Beckstrom [mailto:db...@atving.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 9:51 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Was anyone able to download the all_list.dat file from the interim directory 
that David posted?  Everything else downloaded for me except that file.

-Original Message-
From: David Barker [mailto:david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 8:37 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Filters yes all_list.dat working on that.

-Original Message-
From: John Dobbin [mailto:jo...@penpublishing.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 9:14 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

David - with your support extended to the community, will you be able to offer 
maintenance of the all_list.dat as well as the filters?


-Original Message-
From: David Barker [mailto:david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 1:02 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Not that I can think of, the real advantage is it shuts off all  internal 
validations, AVG which has already stopped, SNF and CT which will stop anytime 
soon.

-Original Message-
From: Andy Schmidt [mailto:andy_schm...@hm-software.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 1:43 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Thanks David,

So, OTHER than Sniffer, any OTHER advantages of using the HOSTS trick vs.
the Bypass key?

-Original Message-
From: David Barker [mailto:david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 1:09 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

If internal SNF is still ON then it can conflict with external Message Sniffer 
by grabbing the port which SNF uses. By using our fix will ensure internal SNF 
is turned OFF. If using the bypass key has everything OFF then that is fine too.

-Original Message-
From: Andy Schmidt [mailto:andy_schm...@hm-software.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:46 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

So - is there any advantage of using the hosts file trick (to invalidate the 
license server IP address) http://mailsbestfriend.com/declude-fix
vs. using the special bypass license code?

Does one enable more functions that the other?

-Original Message-
From: David Barker [mailto:david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:31 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Yes Internal Sniffer is no longer a valid option. Need to switch to external.

-Original Message-
From: Andy Schmidt [mailto:andy_schm...@hm-software.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:06 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Uh - but with that code, the internal SNF is turned off?

So one has to configure Sniffer has an external test with a separate Sniffer 
license code?

-Original Message-
From: Stephan Chayer [mailto:scha...@intrasoft.net]
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 5:37 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Use this key: CODE 28607230-BF21-4CDE-A59B-A451CC7C9CA0

-Message d'origine-
De : SM Admin [mailto:imailad...@bcwebhost.net] Envoyé : 17 avril, 2013 2:43 À 
: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Objet : Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Apparently I was too quick on the draw as this line has since been added to the 
diag file:

04/16/2013 22:24:21.947[BB86F9-606322-C04138-958B5A-AB7343-94F75B]
IS INVALID KEY

Did someone say something about new keys?

-Original Message-
From: SM Admin
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 10:25 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

I noticed today that Declude wasn't processing.  I checked the diag file and it 
has the usual entries at the top plus an entry at the bottom saying that the 
Sniffer license is invalid.  How is that?

So then I restarted the Declud service and now the diag file only shows
this:

Declude 4.12.02 Diagnostics
Compilation Platform: SmarterMail
Copyright (c) 2000-2013 Declude, Inc.

Host Name   mail1.bcwebhost.net
Declude Key redacted

So I have no idea what's going on. Anyone?

-Original Message-
From: Brian Baker
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:09 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Looks like tonight we better figure out a new approach. My declude diag file is 
now reading declude lic as invalid. Anyone else

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

2013-04-17 Thread SM Admin
Apparently I was too quick on the draw as this line has since been added to
the diag file:

04/16/2013 22:24:21.947[BB86F9-606322-C04138-958B5A-AB7343-94F75B]
IS INVALID KEY

Did someone say something about new keys?

-Original Message-
From: SM Admin
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 10:25 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

I noticed today that Declude wasn't processing.  I checked the diag file and
it has the usual entries at the top plus an entry at the bottom saying that
the Sniffer license is invalid.  How is that?

So then I restarted the Declud service and now the diag file only shows
this:

Declude 4.12.02 Diagnostics
Compilation Platform: SmarterMail
Copyright (c) 2000-2013 Declude, Inc.

Host Name   mail1.bcwebhost.net
Declude Key redacted

So I have no idea what's going on. Anyone?

-Original Message-
From: Brian Baker
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:09 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Looks like tonight we better figure out a new approach. My declude diag file
is now reading declude lic as invalid. Anyone else?


- Original Message -
From: Todd Richards to...@nnepa.com
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 9:34 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?



What system is that?  Our users are getting hammered with spam.  Reminds me
of the days, many years ago, before I happened upon Declude...

Todd



-Original Message-
On Sunday, April 14, 2013 10:24 PM,  John Doyle wrote:
I have reverted to a system that works.




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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

2013-04-17 Thread Stephan Chayer
Use this key: CODE 28607230-BF21-4CDE-A59B-A451CC7C9CA0

-Message d'origine-
De : SM Admin [mailto:imailad...@bcwebhost.net]
Envoyé : 17 avril, 2013 2:43
À : Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Objet : Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Apparently I was too quick on the draw as this line has since been added to the 
diag file:

04/16/2013 22:24:21.947[BB86F9-606322-C04138-958B5A-AB7343-94F75B]
IS INVALID KEY

Did someone say something about new keys?

-Original Message-
From: SM Admin
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 10:25 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

I noticed today that Declude wasn't processing.  I checked the diag file and it 
has the usual entries at the top plus an entry at the bottom saying that the 
Sniffer license is invalid.  How is that?

So then I restarted the Declud service and now the diag file only shows
this:

Declude 4.12.02 Diagnostics
Compilation Platform: SmarterMail
Copyright (c) 2000-2013 Declude, Inc.

Host Name   mail1.bcwebhost.net
Declude Key redacted

So I have no idea what's going on. Anyone?

-Original Message-
From: Brian Baker
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:09 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Looks like tonight we better figure out a new approach. My declude diag file is 
now reading declude lic as invalid. Anyone else?


- Original Message -
From: Todd Richards to...@nnepa.com
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 9:34 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?



What system is that?  Our users are getting hammered with spam.  Reminds me
of the days, many years ago, before I happened upon Declude...

Todd



-Original Message-
On Sunday, April 14, 2013 10:24 PM,  John Doyle wrote:
I have reverted to a system that works.




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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

2013-04-17 Thread John Doyle
Todd
It appears that there is no one at Declude
The server that handles this apparently is down and has been for a week
or so.
Go to mail list archive using the link below
Go to the spam version of declude and sort the messages by date
Go back a week or so and read the threads
There is some contact info for getting help
You also should go to message sniffer and email them for help on getting
message sniffer to run standalone.


John




-Original Message-
From: SM Admin [mailto:imailad...@bcwebhost.net]
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 11:43 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Apparently I was too quick on the draw as this line has since been added
to the diag file:

04/16/2013 22:24:21.947
[BB86F9-606322-C04138-958B5A-AB7343-94F75B]
IS INVALID KEY

Did someone say something about new keys?

-Original Message-
From: SM Admin
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 10:25 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

I noticed today that Declude wasn't processing.  I checked the diag file
and it has the usual entries at the top plus an entry at the bottom
saying that the Sniffer license is invalid.  How is that?

So then I restarted the Declud service and now the diag file only shows
this:

Declude 4.12.02 Diagnostics
Compilation Platform: SmarterMail
Copyright (c) 2000-2013 Declude, Inc.

Host Name   mail1.bcwebhost.net
Declude Key redacted

So I have no idea what's going on. Anyone?

-Original Message-
From: Brian Baker
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:09 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Looks like tonight we better figure out a new approach. My declude diag
file is now reading declude lic as invalid. Anyone else?


- Original Message -
From: Todd Richards to...@nnepa.com
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 9:34 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?



What system is that?  Our users are getting hammered with spam.  Reminds
me
of the days, many years ago, before I happened upon Declude...

Todd



-Original Message-
On Sunday, April 14, 2013 10:24 PM,  John Doyle wrote:
I have reverted to a system that works.




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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

2013-04-17 Thread Todd Richards
Hi John -

Thanks - I actually talked with Linda on Monday afternoon and she got me set 
back up with a working installation of Declude.

What about you?

Todd


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National Network, LLC.
Email: to...@nnepa.com
Toll Free: 800.638.8681
Fax: 800.638.8681



-Original Message-
From: John Doyle [mailto:jdo...@spicehunter.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 10:11 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Todd
It appears that there is no one at Declude The server that handles this 
apparently is down and has been for a week or so.
Go to mail list archive using the link below Go to the spam version of declude 
and sort the messages by date Go back a week or so and read the threads There 
is some contact info for getting help You also should go to message sniffer and 
email them for help on getting message sniffer to run standalone.


John




-Original Message-
From: SM Admin [mailto:imailad...@bcwebhost.net]
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 11:43 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Apparently I was too quick on the draw as this line has since been added to the 
diag file:

04/16/2013 22:24:21.947
[BB86F9-606322-C04138-958B5A-AB7343-94F75B]
IS INVALID KEY

Did someone say something about new keys?

-Original Message-
From: SM Admin
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 10:25 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

I noticed today that Declude wasn't processing.  I checked the diag file and it 
has the usual entries at the top plus an entry at the bottom saying that the 
Sniffer license is invalid.  How is that?

So then I restarted the Declud service and now the diag file only shows
this:

Declude 4.12.02 Diagnostics
Compilation Platform: SmarterMail
Copyright (c) 2000-2013 Declude, Inc.

Host Name   mail1.bcwebhost.net
Declude Key redacted

So I have no idea what's going on. Anyone?

-Original Message-
From: Brian Baker
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:09 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Looks like tonight we better figure out a new approach. My declude diag file is 
now reading declude lic as invalid. Anyone else?


- Original Message -
From: Todd Richards to...@nnepa.com
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 9:34 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?



What system is that?  Our users are getting hammered with spam.  Reminds me of 
the days, many years ago, before I happened upon Declude...

Todd



-Original Message-
On Sunday, April 14, 2013 10:24 PM,  John Doyle wrote:
I have reverted to a system that works.




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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

2013-04-17 Thread David Barker
Just my 2c - users do not need to abandon the Declude product.  Declude still 
has tremendous value,  hijack, routing email, rules etc all you need is a way 
to keep Declude running and support which MBF can help you do.

The solution to this tragedy is Declude+Message Sniffer.

David Barker
Mail’s Best Friend
Email : david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com
Web  : www.mailsbestfriend.com






-Original Message-
From: Pete McNeil [mailto:madscient...@microneil.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:24 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

On 2013-04-17 11:11, John Doyle wrote:
 You also should go to message sniffer and email them for help on
 getting message sniffer to run standalone.

Message Sniffer can run standalone on both IMail and SmarterMail.

On IMail, use the MINIMI (minimal IMail Shim) plugin:
http://www.armresearch.com/support/articles/installation/minimiImail.jsp

On Smarter Mail run SNFClient as a command line scanner:
http://www.armresearch.com/support/qa/integration/smarterMail.jsp

_M

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

2013-04-17 Thread Nick Hayer
Thanks David for the vote of confidence.  Who do we contact at Declude for 
customer support? They seem to be radio silent for now - at least on this list.

Thank you

-Nick

MadRiverAccess.com|Skywaves.net Tech Support
US/Canada 877-873-6482 or International +1-802-229-6574
Emergency Support 24/7: supp...@skywaves.net
General and Non-Emergency support ticket:
http://www.skywaves.net/content/secure/support_ticket.htm


 From: David Barker david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:35 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Just my 2c - users do not need to abandon the Declude product.  Declude still 
has tremendous value,  hijack, routing email, rules etc all you need is a way 
to keep Declude running and support which MBF can help you do.

The solution to this tragedy is Declude+Message Sniffer.

David Barker
Mail's Best Friend
Email : david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com
Web  : www.mailsbestfriend.com

-Original Message-
From: Pete McNeil [mailto:madscient...@microneil.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:24 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

On 2013-04-17 11:11, John Doyle wrote:
 You also should go to message sniffer and email them for help on
 getting message sniffer to run standalone.

Message Sniffer can run standalone on both IMail and SmarterMail.

On IMail, use the MINIMI (minimal IMail Shim) plugin:
http://www.armresearch.com/support/articles/installation/minimiImail.jsp

On Smarter Mail run SNFClient as a command line scanner:
http://www.armresearch.com/support/qa/integration/smarterMail.jsp

_M

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

2013-04-17 Thread David Barker
There is no-one at Declude, not one person involved in operations.  No 
engineers, no sales people, no support people no management nothing. The 
company right now simply exists as an entity.



The only help you are going to get from MBF.



David





From: Nick Hayer [mailto:n...@madriveraccess.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:47 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?



Thanks David for the vote of confidence.  Who do we contact at Declude for 
customer support? They seem to be radio silent for now - at least on this list.

Thank you

-Nick

MadRiverAccess.com|Skywaves.net Tech Support
US/Canada 877-873-6482 or International +1-802-229-6574
Emergency Support 24/7: supp...@skywaves.net
General and Non-Emergency support ticket:
http://www.skywaves.net/content/secure/support_ticket.htm 
https://www.skywaves.com/content/secure/support_ticket.htm



  _

From: David Barker david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:35 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?


Just my 2c - users do not need to abandon the Declude product. Declude still 
has tremendous value, hijack, routing email, rules etc all you need is a way to 
keep Declude running and support which MBF can help you do.

The solution to this tragedy is Declude+Message Sniffer.

David Barker
Mail’s Best Friend
Email : david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com
Web : www.mailsbestfriend.com






-Original Message-
From: Pete McNeil [mailto:madscient...@microneil.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:24 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

On 2013-04-17 11:11, John Doyle wrote:
 You also should go to message sniffer and email them for help on
 getting message sniffer to run standalone.

Message Sniffer can run standalone on both IMail and SmarterMail.

On IMail, use the MINIMI (minimal IMail Shim) plugin:
http://www.armresearch.com/support/articles/installation/minimiImail.jsp

On Smarter Mail run SNFClient as a command line scanner:
http://www.armresearch.com/support/qa/integration/smarterMail.jsp

_M

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

2013-04-17 Thread Todd

Ours went down as well this morning.  Declude stopped processing with a 
licensing error.

I have left several phone messages.

Todd


From: Nick Hayer n...@madriveraccess.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 10:47 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Thanks David for the vote of confidence.  Who do we contact at Declude for 
customer support? They seem to be radio silent for now - at least on this list.

Thank you

-Nick

MadRiverAccess.com|Skywaves.net Tech Support
US/Canada 877-873-6482 or International +1-802-229-6574
Emergency Support 24/7: supp...@skywaves.net
General and Non-Emergency support ticket:
http://www.skywaves.net/content/secure/support_ticket.htm


 From: David Barker david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:35 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Just my 2c - users do not need to abandon the Declude product.  Declude still 
has tremendous value,  hijack, routing email, rules etc all you need is a way 
to keep Declude running and support which MBF can help you do.

The solution to this tragedy is Declude+Message Sniffer.

David Barker
Mail's Best Friend
Email : david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com
Web  : www.mailsbestfriend.com

-Original Message-
From: Pete McNeil [mailto:madscient...@microneil.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:24 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

On 2013-04-17 11:11, John Doyle wrote:
 You also should go to message sniffer and email them for help on
 getting message sniffer to run standalone.

Message Sniffer can run standalone on both IMail and SmarterMail.

On IMail, use the MINIMI (minimal IMail Shim) plugin:
http://www.armresearch.com/support/articles/installation/minimiImail.jsp

On Smarter Mail run SNFClient as a command line scanner:
http://www.armresearch.com/support/qa/integration/smarterMail.jsp

_M

--
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www.microneil.com
703.779.4909 x7010
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

2013-04-17 Thread Nick Hayer
Well the only thing that has not gone away is this list for some reason.
Even the site went dark for awhile.  Why have the the site up, phones on,
list work but kill the license server?David - do you have any insight?

Thank you

-Nick

MadRiverAccess.com|Skywaves.net Tech Support
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General and Non-Emergency support ticket:
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 From: Todd t...@smart-mail.net
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 12:26 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Ours went down as well this morning.  Declude stopped processing with a
licensing error.

I have left several phone messages.

Todd


 From: Nick Hayer n...@madriveraccess.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 10:47 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Thanks David for the vote of confidence.  Who do we contact at Declude for
customer support? They seem to be radio silent for now - at least on this
list.

Thank you

-Nick

MadRiverAccess.com|Skywaves.net Tech Support
US/Canada 877-873-6482 or International +1-802-229-6574
Emergency Support 24/7: supp...@skywaves.net
General and Non-Emergency support ticket:
http://www.skywaves.net/content/secure/support_ticket.htm


 From: David Barker david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:35 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Just my 2c - users do not need to abandon the Declude product.  Declude
still has tremendous value,  hijack, routing email, rules etc all you need
is a way to keep Declude running and support which MBF can help you do.

The solution to this tragedy is Declude+Message Sniffer.

David Barker
Mail's Best Friend
Email : david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com
Web  : www.mailsbestfriend.com

-Original Message-
From: Pete McNeil [mailto:madscient...@microneil.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:24 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

On 2013-04-17 11:11, John Doyle wrote:
 You also should go to message sniffer and email them for help on
 getting message sniffer to run standalone.

Message Sniffer can run standalone on both IMail and SmarterMail.

On IMail, use the MINIMI (minimal IMail Shim) plugin:
http://www.armresearch.com/support/articles/installation/minimiImail.jsp

On Smarter Mail run SNFClient as a command line scanner:
http://www.armresearch.com/support/qa/integration/smarterMail.jsp

_M

--
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MicroNeil Research Corporation
www.microneil.com
703.779.4909 x7010
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

2013-04-17 Thread Darin Cox
There are a lot of new spam nets that have just been turned up over the past
few days.  Volumes more than doubled for us, with a lot slipping through.
We’ve added quite a few class Cs to our firewall blocks this week as we see
new ones light up that are entirely owned by a spammer.  That’s helped cut
it down almost to normal levels, and we’ve gotten ahead of them at times by
blocking their entire net before they used some of their IPs.

Darin.



From: Katie La Salle-Lowery
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 12:37 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Our Declude + Message Sniffer appears to be processing, and it is deleting
much spam, but we are experiencing much more spam delivery than a couple
weeks ago and I’m getting user complaints.











Katie LaSalle-Lowery

ka...@centric.net

1120 S. Russell; Ste B

Missoula, MT 59801

ph (406)549-3337

fax (406)541-9338




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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

2013-04-17 Thread Darin Cox
We run an older Declude perpetual license, so we weren’t affected by this
issue, and don’t use Postini, so it’s just the new spam nets over the past
week or so that have affected us.

Darin.



From: Katie La Salle-Lowery
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 12:56 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Declude and Postinin dying in the same period as the Spamhaus battle
(assuming that is ongoing) is putting the hurt on, I think.









Katie LaSalle-Lowery

ka...@centric.net

1120 S. Russell; Ste B

Missoula, MT 59801

ph (406)549-3337

fax (406)541-9338



From: Darin Cox [mailto:dc...@4cweb.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 10:52 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?



There are a lot of new spam nets that have just been turned up over the past
few days.  Volumes more than doubled for us, with a lot slipping through.
We’ve added quite a few class Cs to our firewall blocks this week as we see
new ones light up that are entirely owned by a spammer.  That’s helped cut
it down almost to normal levels, and we’ve gotten ahead of them at times by
blocking their entire net before they used some of their IPs.



Darin.



From: Katie La Salle-Lowery

Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 12:37 PM

To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com

Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?



Our Declude + Message Sniffer appears to be processing, and it is deleting
much spam, but we are experiencing much more spam delivery than a couple
weeks ago and I’m getting user complaints.











Katie LaSalle-Lowery

ka...@centric.net

1120 S. Russell; Ste B

Missoula, MT 59801

ph (406)549-3337

fax (406)541-9338




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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

2013-04-17 Thread Pete McNeil

  
  
On 2013-04-17 13:06, Katie La
  Salle-Lowery wrote:


  X-MessageSniffer-Rules:
     
  20-0-0--1-f

Message Sniffer tagged this message with a truncate result.
Result code 20.

Normally we recommend that a Truncate result should be weighted high
enough to ensure the message is treated as spam / malware with
extreme prejudice.

Truncate means that the IP reputation for the source is known to be
so bad that SNF isn't going to bother finishing the content scan.
It's simply going to mark the message as spam and possibly take a
sample.

http://www.armresearch.com/support/articles/software/snfServer/core.jsp

Hope this helps,

_M

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

2013-04-17 Thread David Barker
In short. That is the reason.



From: Nick Hayer [mailto:n...@madriveraccess.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 12:23 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?



There is no-one at Declude, not one person involved in operations.  No 
engineers, no sales people, no support people no management nothing.
That is too bad.  Who would have guessed this would happen.
So why did Declude die?  You were its VP - thoughts?

Is Chuck still around by chance?
http://www.corporationwiki.com/Massachusetts/Somerville/david-barker/116682287.aspx
http://corp.sec.state.ma.us/corp/corpsearch/CorpSearchSummary.asp?ReadFromDB=True
 
http://corp.sec.state.ma.us/corp/corpsearch/CorpSearchSummary.asp?ReadFromDB=TrueUpdateAllowed=FEIN=371577720
 UpdateAllowed=FEIN=371577720

Thank you

-Nick

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General and Non-Emergency support ticket:
http://www.skywaves.net/content/secure/support_ticket.htm 
https://www.skywaves.com/content/secure/support_ticket.htm



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From: David Barker david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 12:02 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

There is no-one at Declude, not one person involved in operations.  No 
engineers, no sales people, no support people no management nothing. The 
company right now simply exists as an entity.



The only help you are going to get from MBF.



David





From: Nick Hayer [mailto:n...@madriveraccess.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:47 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?



Thanks David for the vote of confidence.  Who do we contact at Declude for 
customer support? They seem to be radio silent for now - at least on this list.

Thank you

-Nick

MadRiverAccess.com|Skywaves.net Tech Support
US/Canada 877-873-6482 or International +1-802-229-6574
Emergency Support 24/7: supp...@skywaves.net
General and Non-Emergency support ticket:
http://www.skywaves.net/content/secure/support_ticket.htm 
https://www.skywaves.com/content/secure/support_ticket.htm



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From: David Barker david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:35 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?


Just my 2c - users do not need to abandon the Declude product. Declude still 
has tremendous value, hijack, routing email, rules etc all you need is a way to 
keep Declude running and support which MBF can help you do.

The solution to this tragedy is Declude+Message Sniffer.

David Barker
Mail’s Best Friend
Email : david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com
Web : www.mailsbestfriend.com






-Original Message-
From: Pete McNeil [mailto:madscient...@microneil.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:24 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

On 2013-04-17 11:11, John Doyle wrote:
 You also should go to message sniffer and email them for help on
 getting message sniffer to run standalone.

Message Sniffer can run standalone on both IMail and SmarterMail.

On IMail, use the MINIMI (minimal IMail Shim) plugin:
http://www.armresearch.com/support/articles/installation/minimiImail.jsp

On Smarter Mail run SNFClient as a command line scanner:
http://www.armresearch.com/support/qa/integration/smarterMail.jsp

_M

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

2013-04-17 Thread David Barker
I do know. Let me put it this way, it is up not for the benefit of customers.



From: Nick Hayer [mailto:n...@madriveraccess.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 12:43 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?



Well the only thing that has not gone away is this list for some reason. Even 
the site went dark for awhile.  Why have the the site up, phones on, list work 
but kill the license server?David - do you have any insight?

Thank you

-Nick

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US/Canada 877-873-6482 or International +1-802-229-6574
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https://www.skywaves.com/content/secure/support_ticket.htm



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From: Todd t...@smart-mail.net
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 12:26 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?


Ours went down as well this morning.  Declude stopped processing with a 
licensing error.

I have left several phone messages.

Todd



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From: Nick Hayer n...@madriveraccess.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 10:47 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Thanks David for the vote of confidence.  Who do we contact at Declude for 
customer support? They seem to be radio silent for now - at least on this list.

Thank you

-Nick

MadRiverAccess.com|Skywaves.net Tech Support
US/Canada 877-873-6482 or International +1-802-229-6574
Emergency Support 24/7: supp...@skywaves.net
General and Non-Emergency support ticket:
http://www.skywaves.net/content/secure/support_ticket.htm 
https://www.skywaves.com/content/secure/support_ticket.htm



  _

From: David Barker david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:35 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?


Just my 2c - users do not need to abandon the Declude product. Declude still 
has tremendous value, hijack, routing email, rules etc all you need is a way to 
keep Declude running and support which MBF can help you do.

The solution to this tragedy is Declude+Message Sniffer.

David Barker
Mail's Best Friend
Email : david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com
Web : www.mailsbestfriend.com






-Original Message-
From: Pete McNeil [mailto:madscient...@microneil.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:24 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

On 2013-04-17 11:11, John Doyle wrote:
 You also should go to message sniffer and email them for help on
 getting message sniffer to run standalone.

Message Sniffer can run standalone on both IMail and SmarterMail.

On IMail, use the MINIMI (minimal IMail Shim) plugin:
http://www.armresearch.com/support/articles/installation/minimiImail.jsp

On Smarter Mail run SNFClient as a command line scanner:
http://www.armresearch.com/support/qa/integration/smarterMail.jsp

_M

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

2013-04-17 Thread David Barker
1.   Makes sure that SNF is OFF in the \Diags.txt

2.   These are my suggested values (please note that you path if 
copy/paste) also NONZERO weight can be 20 or 25.  Also if you want to break out 
the NONZERO codes that is fine too.



SNIFFER   external  NONZERO   
C:\Smartermail\Declude\SNF\SNFClient.exe 20  0

SNIFFER-CAUTION  external   020
C:\Smartermail\Declude\SNF\SNFClient.exe -10  0

SNIFFER-TRUNCATEexternal  040 
C:\Smartermail\Declude\SNF\SNFClient.exe 10  0

David Barker
Mail’s Best Friend

Email : david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com
Web  : www.mailsbestfriend.com http://www.mailsbestfriend.com/
Office: 703.988.3605 x7015
Mobile  : 978.518.6461

cid:image001.png@01CE2B2E.8B3E9EF0









From: Pete McNeil [mailto:madscient...@microneil.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 1:25 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?



On 2013-04-17 13:06, Katie La Salle-Lowery wrote:

X-MessageSniffer-Scan-Result: 20

X-MessageSniffer-Rules:

20-0-0--1-f

By the way:

We have seen a LOT of this lately.

For some reason there appear to be many Declude configurations out there that 
do not account for the truncate result code from SNF.

I highly recommend that if you are using Declude, and especially if you have 
seen an increase in spam leakage, you should check your configuration and make 
sure that you weight result code 20 higher than other nonzero Message Sniffer 
result codes.

On most systems that use SNF + Declude, not counting for the truncate result 
code can result in leaking more than 10% of spam/malware that would have been 
caught.

Best,

_M




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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

2013-04-17 Thread Pete McNeil

  
  
On 2013-04-17 13:36, David Barker
  wrote:


  SNIFFER  

  external  NONZERO  
  "C:\Smartermail\Declude\SNF\SNFClient.exe"    
  20  0
  SNIFFER-CAUTION 

  external   020       
  "C:\Smartermail\Declude\SNF\SNFClient.exe"    
  -10  0
  SNIFFER-TRUNCATE   

  external  040    
  "C:\Smartermail\Declude\SNF\SNFClient.exe"
  10  0
  


Woops!! That's backward.

It SHOULD be:

SNIFFER-CAUTION    external    040    etc...
SNIFFER-TRUNCATE    external    020    etc...

Best,

_M

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

2013-04-17 Thread Pete McNeil

  
  
On 2013-04-17 13:43, Katie La
  Salle-Lowery wrote:

Just
to be clear – 020 should be the truncate and 040 the caution
(opposite of below) according to what Pete sent (http://www.armresearch.com/support/articles/software/snfServer/core.jsp),
right?

Yes.
_M

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

2013-04-17 Thread SM Admin
For IMail that was true, but I switched to SM last fall and that no longer
appears to be the case. There is no license code in my declude.cfg file and
the cod line says SmarterMail can removed this line.

Ben

-Original Message-
From: Randy Armbrecht
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 10:43 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

License code is in the declude.cfg file



Sincerely,

Randy A.


-Original Message-
From: SM Admin [mailto:imailad...@bcwebhost.net]
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 1:27 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Hi,

I haven't seen anyone else comment on this post and I wondered if it was one
of the perpetual licenses.  I would test it but I can't recall or figure out
how to change the license code manually. So how do I do that?

Thanks,

Ben

-Original Message-
From: Stephan Chayer
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 2:36 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Use this key: CODE 28607230-BF21-4CDE-A59B-A451CC7C9CA0

-Message d'origine-
De : SM Admin [mailto:imailad...@bcwebhost.net] Envoyé : 17 avril, 2013 2:43
À : Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Objet : Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at
Declude?

Apparently I was too quick on the draw as this line has since been added to
the diag file:

04/16/2013 22:24:21.947[BB86F9-606322-C04138-958B5A-AB7343-94F75B]
IS INVALID KEY

Did someone say something about new keys?

-Original Message-
From: SM Admin
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 10:25 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

I noticed today that Declude wasn't processing.  I checked the diag file and
it has the usual entries at the top plus an entry at the bottom saying that
the Sniffer license is invalid.  How is that?

So then I restarted the Declud service and now the diag file only shows
this:

Declude 4.12.02 Diagnostics
Compilation Platform: SmarterMail
Copyright (c) 2000-2013 Declude, Inc.

Host Name   mail1.bcwebhost.net
Declude Key redacted

So I have no idea what's going on. Anyone?

-Original Message-
From: Brian Baker
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:09 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Looks like tonight we better figure out a new approach. My declude diag file
is now reading declude lic as invalid. Anyone else?


- Original Message -
From: Todd Richards to...@nnepa.com
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 9:34 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?



What system is that?  Our users are getting hammered with spam.  Reminds me
of the days, many years ago, before I happened upon Declude...

Todd



-Original Message-
On Sunday, April 14, 2013 10:24 PM,  John Doyle wrote:
I have reverted to a system that works.




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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

2013-04-17 Thread SM Admin
Why the negative weight on Caution? What’s the logic behind that?

Thanks,

Ben

From: Pete McNeil
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 10:47 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

On 2013-04-17 13:36, David Barker wrote:

  SNIFFER   external  NONZERO   
C:\Smartermail\Declude\SNF\SNFClient.exe 20  0

  SNIFFER-CAUTION  external   020
C:\Smartermail\Declude\SNF\SNFClient.exe -10  0

  SNIFFER-TRUNCATEexternal  040 
C:\Smartermail\Declude\SNF\SNFClient.exe 10  0



Woops!! That's backward.

It SHOULD be:

SNIFFER-CAUTIONexternal040etc...
SNIFFER-TRUNCATEexternal020etc...

Best,

_M


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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

2013-04-17 Thread Pete McNeil
On 2013-04-17 13:52, SM Admin wrote:
 Why the negative weight on Caution? What’s the logic behind that?

The Caution result is based on a special case with a small amount of
information:

Sniffer is saying: This IP is new, and the first message or two that it
sent was spam. The current message didn't match any patterns I know, but
I'll bet that it's just a bot I haven't seen before that's been lit up
to send a new spam campaign.

That reasoning is usually correct, but it's not as solid as the other
result codes because it's guessing

Hope this helps,

_M

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

2013-04-17 Thread David Barker
Sorry for the confusion: This is the correct  VERSION. Please update your 
Sniffer Configs. (Sorry I missed this lack of sleep trying to keep everyone 
afloat) I am going to post this same information to the MBF Message List.



SNIFFER   external  NONZERO   
C:\Smartermail\Declude\SNF\SNFClient.exe 20  0

SNIFFER-CAUTION  external   040 
C:\Smartermail\Declude\SNF\SNFClient.exe -10  0

SNIFFER-TRUNCATEexternal  020 
C:\Smartermail\Declude\SNF\SNFClient.exe 10  0





From: Pete McNeil [mailto:madscient...@microneil.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 1:48 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?



On 2013-04-17 13:36, David Barker wrote:

SNIFFER   external  NONZERO   
C:\Smartermail\Declude\SNF\SNFClient.exe 20  0

SNIFFER-CAUTION  external   020
C:\Smartermail\Declude\SNF\SNFClient.exe -10  0

SNIFFER-TRUNCATEexternal  040 
C:\Smartermail\Declude\SNF\SNFClient.exe 10  0


Woops!! That's backward.

It SHOULD be:

SNIFFER-CAUTIONexternal040etc...
SNIFFER-TRUNCATEexternal020etc...

Best,

_M




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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

2013-04-17 Thread Darin Cox
FYI... I spot-checked some of the domains involved in what we were seeing.
Many were two or three years old, so the new domain test would not work on
them.

On the report, there are log parsers that will do that for you, including
Grep and Sawmill.  We don’t use those, but import our logs into SQL Server
for processing and reporting.

Darin.



From: Dave Beckstrom
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 1:37 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

I put in a request to Darrell at Invariant to see if he could update
URIExtract to produce a report of IPs on top of the domain report that it
currently produces.

What I've been doing is if I receive one spam from say 69.22.136.43 and
another spam from 69.22.136.48 then I firewall 69.22.136.0/24

I'd like to see a report of IPs extracted from emails and a count of how
many emails were found from a given IP -- reports taken from the INVURIBL
log files, that is.

I've not heard back from Darrell.   I don't have any other tool at my
disposal for extracting those IPs.

What we really need, is something that would do a whois query and for any
domain registered within say the last 24 hours then declude could hold or
delete the email.  The majority of spam seems to be from spammers who
registered a domain using  fake credit card and by the time the registrar
figures out they didn't get paid then the spammer is on to the next domain.




From: Darin Cox [mailto:dc...@4cweb.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 12:23 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: [SPAM]- Score (19)Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?


Not many IPs in that range in use yet according to SenderBase, but those
that are are very bad.

We’ve been seeing a lot of spam traffic where SenderBase didn’t have any
measurements on the IP yet that we were seeing, but had a number of others
in the same subnet... all bad.

Darin.



From: Katie La Salle-Lowery
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 1:06 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Here are the headers of an example I received.

Received: from pop.mountainmusicmeltdown.com [207.223.191.101] by
mail.centric.net with ESMTP

  (SMTPD-11.01) id 1950001a04b74c7d; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 08:57:09 -0600

From: credit line increase barbara_watk...@mountainmusicmeltdown.com

To: ka...@centric.net

Subject: Magnificent News! TransUnion Gave You a Credit Increase

Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 10:50:56 -0400

Message-ID:
34770215301099823782438a696834a88ab99428fd8da700...@pop.mountainmusicmeltdown.com

Mime-Version: 1.0

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Content-Disposition: inline

X-MessageSniffer-Identifier: C:\IMail\spool\proc\work\D1950001a04b74c7d.smd

X-GBUdb-Analysis: 0, 207.223.191.101, Ugly c=0.279065 p=1 Source Truncate

X-MessageSniffer-Scan-Result: 20

X-MessageSniffer-Rules:

20-0-0--1-f

X-RBL-Warning: SUBCHARS-55: Subject with at least 55 characters found.

X-Declude-Sender: barbara_watk...@mountainmusicmeltdown.com
[207.223.191.101]

X-Declude-Spoolname: D1950001a04b74c7d.smd

X-Declude-RefID:

X-Declude-Note: Scanned by Centric Internet Services using Declude 4.12.01
for spam. http://www.declude.com/x-note.htm;

X-Declude-Scan: Incoming Score [8] at 08:57:23 on 17 Apr 2013

X-Declude-Fail: SORBS-DUL [5], SORBS [4], SPFPASS [-1], SUBCHARS-55 [1]

X-Country-Chain:

X-RCPT-TO: ka...@centric.net

Status:

X-UIDL: 651220478

X-IMail-ThreadID: 1950001a04b74c7d









Katie LaSalle-Lowery

ka...@centric.net

1120 S. Russell; Ste B

Missoula, MT 59801

ph (406)549-3337

fax (406)541-9338



From: Pete McNeil [mailto:madscient...@microneil.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 10:52 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?



On 2013-04-17 12:37, Katie La Salle-Lowery wrote:

  Our Declude + Message Sniffer appears to be processing, and it is deleting
much spam, but we are experiencing much more spam delivery than a couple
weeks ago and I’m getting user complaints.


It's possible that your weighting is off due to some parts of Declude not
working anymore.
If you're experiencing leakage that SNF is not tagging please let us know
and we will work aggressively to resolve the problem.

http://www.armresearch.com/support/articles/procedures/spamSubmissions.jsp

If SNF is tagging the messages that are getting through then be sure to
adjust your configuration to weight SNF results more highly.

Hope this helps,

_M





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Research Corporationwww.microneil.com703.779.4909
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

2013-04-17 Thread Dave Beckstrom
Hi Darin,

I don't have stats but in manual checks it seems to be about 50% of my spam.

stepvalve.net
Creation date: 16 Apr 2013 16:13:00
Expiration date: 16 Apr 2014 08:13:00


kunstkennis.com
Updated Date: 17-apr-2013
Creation Date: 16-apr-2013

shoputc.com
Creation date: 16 Apr 2013 19:24:13
Expiration date: 16 Apr 2014 19:24:00


What ticks me off is a lot of it is registered with ENOM which is where I
buy my domains.



From: Darin Cox [mailto:dc...@4cweb.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 1:34 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?


HI Dave,

Maybe we are looking at different cross-sections of the spam problem, but on
our systems we see a lot from spammy domains that are not brand new.

Darin.



From: Dave Beckstrom mailto:db...@atving.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 2:22 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Darin,

The new domain test would work on a majority of spam.

Here is one from the saffron extract spams that are being sent.  Just got
this one this morning.

Received: from mail3.llorynlouise.com [173.237.33.77] by

[Querying
whois.enom.com]
[whois.enom.com]
Updated Date: 17-apr-2013
Creation Date: 16-apr-2013



From: Darin Cox [mailto:dc...@4cweb.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 1:14 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?


FYI... I spot-checked some of the domains involved in what we were seeing.
Many were two or three years old, so the new domain test would not work on
them.

On the report, there are log parsers that will do that for you, including
Grep and Sawmill.  We don't use those, but import our logs into SQL Server
for processing and reporting.

Darin.



From: Dave Beckstrom mailto:db...@atving.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 1:37 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

I put in a request to Darrell at Invariant to see if he could update
URIExtract to produce a report of IPs on top of the domain report that it
currently produces.

What I've been doing is if I receive one spam from say 69.22.136.43 and
another spam from 69.22.136.48 then I firewall 69.22.136.0/24

I'd like to see a report of IPs extracted from emails and a count of how
many emails were found from a given IP -- reports taken from the INVURIBL
log files, that is.

I've not heard back from Darrell.   I don't have any other tool at my
disposal for extracting those IPs.

What we really need, is something that would do a whois query and for any
domain registered within say the last 24 hours then declude could hold or
delete the email.  The majority of spam seems to be from spammers who
registered a domain using  fake credit card and by the time the registrar
figures out they didn't get paid then the spammer is on to the next domain.




From: Darin Cox [mailto:dc...@4cweb.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 12:23 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: [SPAM]- Score (19)Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?


Not many IPs in that range in use yet according to SenderBase, but those
that are are very bad.

We've been seeing a lot of spam traffic where SenderBase didn't have any
measurements on the IP yet that we were seeing, but had a number of others
in the same subnet... all bad.

Darin.



From: Katie La Salle-Lowery mailto:ka...@centric.net
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 1:06 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?


Here are the headers of an example I received.

Received: from pop.mountainmusicmeltdown.com [207.223.191.101] by
mail.centric.net with ESMTP

  (SMTPD-11.01) id 1950001a04b74c7d; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 08:57:09 -0600

From: credit line increase barbara_watk...@mountainmusicmeltdown.com

To: ka...@centric.net

Subject: Magnificent News! TransUnion Gave You a Credit Increase

Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 10:50:56 -0400

Message-ID:
34770215301099823782438a696834a88ab99428fd8da700613@pop.mountainmusicmeltdo
wn.com

Mime-Version: 1.0

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Content-Disposition: inline

X-MessageSniffer-Identifier: C:\IMail\spool\proc\work\D1950001a04b74c7d.smd

X-GBUdb-Analysis: 0, 207.223.191.101, Ugly c=0.279065 p=1 Source Truncate

X-MessageSniffer-Scan-Result: 20

X-MessageSniffer-Rules:

20-0-0--1-f

X-RBL-Warning: SUBCHARS-55: Subject with at least 55 characters found.

X-Declude-Sender: barbara_watk...@mountainmusicmeltdown.com
[207.223.191.101]

X-Declude-Spoolname: D1950001a04b74c7d.smd

X-Declude-RefID:

X-Declude-Note: Scanned by Centric Internet Services using Declude 4.12.01
for spam. http://www.declude.com/x-note.htm;

X-Declude-Scan: Incoming Score [8] at 08:57:23 on 17 Apr 2013

X-Declude-Fail: SORBS-DUL [5], SORBS [4], SPFPASS [-1], SUBCHARS-55 [1]

X-Country-Chain:

X-RCPT

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? topic change - gbudb

2013-04-17 Thread Nick Hayer
Pete,

Is the data in truncate.gbudb.net duplicated in Sniffer?

Thank you

-Nick

MadRiverAccess.com|Skywaves.net Tech Support
US/Canada 877-873-6482 or International +1-802-229-6574
Emergency Support 24/7: supp...@skywaves.net
General and Non-Emergency support ticket:
http://www.skywaves.net/content/secure/support_ticket.htm


 From: Pete McNeil madscient...@microneil.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 1:26 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

On 2013-04-17 13:06, Katie La Salle-Lowery wrote:
  X-MessageSniffer-Scan-Result: 20 X-MessageSniffer-Rules:
20-0-0--1-f  By the way:

We have seen a LOT of this lately.

For some reason there appear to be many Declude configurations out there
that do not account for the truncate result code from SNF.

I highly recommend that if you are using Declude, and especially if you
have seen an increase in spam leakage, you should check your configuration
and make sure that you weight result code 20 higher than other nonzero
Message Sniffer result codes.

On most systems that use SNF + Declude, not counting for the truncate
result code can result in leaking more than 10% of spam/malware that would
have been caught.

Best,

_M

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703.779.4909 x7010 twitter/codedweller
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude? topic change - gbudb

2013-04-17 Thread Pete McNeil

  
  
On 2013-04-17 15:20, Nick Hayer wrote:

Is the data in truncate.gbudb.net duplicated in Sniffer?

No.

Each SNF node has it's own view of the world.
The truncate bl has an aggregate view from all SNF nodes.

That means that it's good to use truncate because it will know about
IPs that you may not have seen yet at your system.

Best,

_M

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MicroNeil Research Corporation
www.microneil.com
703.779.4909 x7010
twitter/codedweller



  


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

2013-04-17 Thread Andy Schmidt
Uh - but with that code, the internal SNF is turned off?

So one has to configure Sniffer has an external test with a separate Sniffer 
license code?

-Original Message-
From: Stephan Chayer [mailto:scha...@intrasoft.net]
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 5:37 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Use this key: CODE 28607230-BF21-4CDE-A59B-A451CC7C9CA0

-Message d'origine-
De : SM Admin [mailto:imailad...@bcwebhost.net] Envoyé : 17 avril, 2013 2:43 À 
: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Objet : Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Apparently I was too quick on the draw as this line has since been added to the 
diag file:

04/16/2013 22:24:21.947[BB86F9-606322-C04138-958B5A-AB7343-94F75B]
IS INVALID KEY

Did someone say something about new keys?

-Original Message-
From: SM Admin
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 10:25 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

I noticed today that Declude wasn't processing.  I checked the diag file and it 
has the usual entries at the top plus an entry at the bottom saying that the 
Sniffer license is invalid.  How is that?

So then I restarted the Declud service and now the diag file only shows
this:

Declude 4.12.02 Diagnostics
Compilation Platform: SmarterMail
Copyright (c) 2000-2013 Declude, Inc.

Host Name   mail1.bcwebhost.net
Declude Key redacted

So I have no idea what's going on. Anyone?

-Original Message-
From: Brian Baker
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:09 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Looks like tonight we better figure out a new approach. My declude diag file is 
now reading declude lic as invalid. Anyone else?


- Original Message -
From: Todd Richards to...@nnepa.com
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 9:34 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?



What system is that?  Our users are getting hammered with spam.  Reminds me of 
the days, many years ago, before I happened upon Declude...

Todd



-Original Message-
On Sunday, April 14, 2013 10:24 PM,  John Doyle wrote:
I have reverted to a system that works.




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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

2013-04-17 Thread David Barker
Yes Internal Sniffer is no longer a valid option. Need to switch to external.

-Original Message-
From: Andy Schmidt [mailto:andy_schm...@hm-software.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:06 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Uh - but with that code, the internal SNF is turned off?

So one has to configure Sniffer has an external test with a separate Sniffer 
license code?

-Original Message-
From: Stephan Chayer [mailto:scha...@intrasoft.net]
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 5:37 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Use this key: CODE 28607230-BF21-4CDE-A59B-A451CC7C9CA0

-Message d'origine-
De : SM Admin [mailto:imailad...@bcwebhost.net] Envoyé : 17 avril, 2013 2:43 À 
: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Objet : Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Apparently I was too quick on the draw as this line has since been added to the 
diag file:

04/16/2013 22:24:21.947[BB86F9-606322-C04138-958B5A-AB7343-94F75B]
IS INVALID KEY

Did someone say something about new keys?

-Original Message-
From: SM Admin
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 10:25 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

I noticed today that Declude wasn't processing.  I checked the diag file and it 
has the usual entries at the top plus an entry at the bottom saying that the 
Sniffer license is invalid.  How is that?

So then I restarted the Declud service and now the diag file only shows
this:

Declude 4.12.02 Diagnostics
Compilation Platform: SmarterMail
Copyright (c) 2000-2013 Declude, Inc.

Host Name   mail1.bcwebhost.net
Declude Key redacted

So I have no idea what's going on. Anyone?

-Original Message-
From: Brian Baker
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:09 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Looks like tonight we better figure out a new approach. My declude diag file is 
now reading declude lic as invalid. Anyone else?


- Original Message -
From: Todd Richards to...@nnepa.com
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 9:34 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?



What system is that?  Our users are getting hammered with spam.  Reminds me of 
the days, many years ago, before I happened upon Declude...

Todd



-Original Message-
On Sunday, April 14, 2013 10:24 PM,  John Doyle wrote:
I have reverted to a system that works.




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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

2013-04-17 Thread Andy Schmidt
So - is there any advantage of using the hosts file trick (to invalidate the 
license server IP address) http://mailsbestfriend.com/declude-fix
vs. using the special bypass license code?

Does one enable more functions that the other?

-Original Message-
From: David Barker [mailto:david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:31 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Yes Internal Sniffer is no longer a valid option. Need to switch to external.

-Original Message-
From: Andy Schmidt [mailto:andy_schm...@hm-software.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:06 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Uh - but with that code, the internal SNF is turned off?

So one has to configure Sniffer has an external test with a separate Sniffer 
license code?

-Original Message-
From: Stephan Chayer [mailto:scha...@intrasoft.net]
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 5:37 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Use this key: CODE 28607230-BF21-4CDE-A59B-A451CC7C9CA0

-Message d'origine-
De : SM Admin [mailto:imailad...@bcwebhost.net] Envoyé : 17 avril, 2013 2:43 À 
: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Objet : Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Apparently I was too quick on the draw as this line has since been added to the 
diag file:

04/16/2013 22:24:21.947[BB86F9-606322-C04138-958B5A-AB7343-94F75B]
IS INVALID KEY

Did someone say something about new keys?

-Original Message-
From: SM Admin
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 10:25 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

I noticed today that Declude wasn't processing.  I checked the diag file and it 
has the usual entries at the top plus an entry at the bottom saying that the 
Sniffer license is invalid.  How is that?

So then I restarted the Declud service and now the diag file only shows
this:

Declude 4.12.02 Diagnostics
Compilation Platform: SmarterMail
Copyright (c) 2000-2013 Declude, Inc.

Host Name   mail1.bcwebhost.net
Declude Key redacted

So I have no idea what's going on. Anyone?

-Original Message-
From: Brian Baker
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:09 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Looks like tonight we better figure out a new approach. My declude diag file is 
now reading declude lic as invalid. Anyone else?


- Original Message -
From: Todd Richards to...@nnepa.com
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 9:34 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?



What system is that?  Our users are getting hammered with spam.  Reminds me of 
the days, many years ago, before I happened upon Declude...

Todd



-Original Message-
On Sunday, April 14, 2013 10:24 PM,  John Doyle wrote:
I have reverted to a system that works.




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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

2013-04-17 Thread David Barker
If internal SNF is still ON then it can conflict with external Message Sniffer 
by grabbing the port which SNF uses. By using our fix will ensure internal SNF 
is turned OFF. If using the bypass key has everything OFF then that is fine too.

-Original Message-
From: Andy Schmidt [mailto:andy_schm...@hm-software.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:46 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

So - is there any advantage of using the hosts file trick (to invalidate the 
license server IP address) http://mailsbestfriend.com/declude-fix
vs. using the special bypass license code?

Does one enable more functions that the other?

-Original Message-
From: David Barker [mailto:david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:31 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Yes Internal Sniffer is no longer a valid option. Need to switch to external.

-Original Message-
From: Andy Schmidt [mailto:andy_schm...@hm-software.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:06 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Uh - but with that code, the internal SNF is turned off?

So one has to configure Sniffer has an external test with a separate Sniffer 
license code?

-Original Message-
From: Stephan Chayer [mailto:scha...@intrasoft.net]
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 5:37 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Use this key: CODE 28607230-BF21-4CDE-A59B-A451CC7C9CA0

-Message d'origine-
De : SM Admin [mailto:imailad...@bcwebhost.net] Envoyé : 17 avril, 2013 2:43 À 
: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Objet : Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Apparently I was too quick on the draw as this line has since been added to the 
diag file:

04/16/2013 22:24:21.947[BB86F9-606322-C04138-958B5A-AB7343-94F75B]
IS INVALID KEY

Did someone say something about new keys?

-Original Message-
From: SM Admin
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 10:25 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

I noticed today that Declude wasn't processing.  I checked the diag file and it 
has the usual entries at the top plus an entry at the bottom saying that the 
Sniffer license is invalid.  How is that?

So then I restarted the Declud service and now the diag file only shows
this:

Declude 4.12.02 Diagnostics
Compilation Platform: SmarterMail
Copyright (c) 2000-2013 Declude, Inc.

Host Name   mail1.bcwebhost.net
Declude Key redacted

So I have no idea what's going on. Anyone?

-Original Message-
From: Brian Baker
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:09 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Looks like tonight we better figure out a new approach. My declude diag file is 
now reading declude lic as invalid. Anyone else?


- Original Message -
From: Todd Richards to...@nnepa.com
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 9:34 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?



What system is that?  Our users are getting hammered with spam.  Reminds me of 
the days, many years ago, before I happened upon Declude...

Todd



-Original Message-
On Sunday, April 14, 2013 10:24 PM,  John Doyle wrote:
I have reverted to a system that works.




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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

2013-04-17 Thread Andy Schmidt
Thanks David,

So, OTHER than Sniffer, any OTHER advantages of using the HOSTS trick vs. the 
Bypass key?

-Original Message-
From: David Barker [mailto:david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 1:09 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

If internal SNF is still ON then it can conflict with external Message Sniffer 
by grabbing the port which SNF uses. By using our fix will ensure internal SNF 
is turned OFF. If using the bypass key has everything OFF then that is fine too.

-Original Message-
From: Andy Schmidt [mailto:andy_schm...@hm-software.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:46 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

So - is there any advantage of using the hosts file trick (to invalidate the 
license server IP address) http://mailsbestfriend.com/declude-fix
vs. using the special bypass license code?

Does one enable more functions that the other?

-Original Message-
From: David Barker [mailto:david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:31 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Yes Internal Sniffer is no longer a valid option. Need to switch to external.

-Original Message-
From: Andy Schmidt [mailto:andy_schm...@hm-software.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:06 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Uh - but with that code, the internal SNF is turned off?

So one has to configure Sniffer has an external test with a separate Sniffer 
license code?

-Original Message-
From: Stephan Chayer [mailto:scha...@intrasoft.net]
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 5:37 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Use this key: CODE 28607230-BF21-4CDE-A59B-A451CC7C9CA0

-Message d'origine-
De : SM Admin [mailto:imailad...@bcwebhost.net] Envoyé : 17 avril, 2013 2:43 À 
: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Objet : Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Apparently I was too quick on the draw as this line has since been added to the 
diag file:

04/16/2013 22:24:21.947[BB86F9-606322-C04138-958B5A-AB7343-94F75B]
IS INVALID KEY

Did someone say something about new keys?

-Original Message-
From: SM Admin
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 10:25 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

I noticed today that Declude wasn't processing.  I checked the diag file and it 
has the usual entries at the top plus an entry at the bottom saying that the 
Sniffer license is invalid.  How is that?

So then I restarted the Declud service and now the diag file only shows
this:

Declude 4.12.02 Diagnostics
Compilation Platform: SmarterMail
Copyright (c) 2000-2013 Declude, Inc.

Host Name   mail1.bcwebhost.net
Declude Key redacted

So I have no idea what's going on. Anyone?

-Original Message-
From: Brian Baker
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:09 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Looks like tonight we better figure out a new approach. My declude diag file is 
now reading declude lic as invalid. Anyone else?


- Original Message -
From: Todd Richards to...@nnepa.com
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 9:34 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?



What system is that?  Our users are getting hammered with spam.  Reminds me of 
the days, many years ago, before I happened upon Declude...

Todd



-Original Message-
On Sunday, April 14, 2013 10:24 PM,  John Doyle wrote:
I have reverted to a system that works.




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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

2013-04-16 Thread Brian Baker
Looks like tonight we better figure out a new approach. My declude diag file
is now reading declude lic as invalid. Anyone else?


- Original Message -
From: Todd Richards to...@nnepa.com
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 9:34 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?



What system is that?  Our users are getting hammered with spam.  Reminds me
of the days, many years ago, before I happened upon Declude...

Todd



-Original Message-
On Sunday, April 14, 2013 10:24 PM,  John Doyle wrote:
I have reverted to a system that works.




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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

2013-04-16 Thread SM Admin
I noticed today that Declude wasn't processing.  I checked the diag file and
it has the usual entries at the top plus an entry at the bottom saying that
the Sniffer license is invalid.  How is that?

So then I restarted the Declud service and now the diag file only shows
this:

Declude 4.12.02 Diagnostics
Compilation Platform: SmarterMail
Copyright (c) 2000-2013 Declude, Inc.

Host Name   mail1.bcwebhost.net
Declude Key redacted

So I have no idea what's going on. Anyone?

-Original Message-
From: Brian Baker
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:09 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Looks like tonight we better figure out a new approach. My declude diag file
is now reading declude lic as invalid. Anyone else?


- Original Message -
From: Todd Richards to...@nnepa.com
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 9:34 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?



What system is that?  Our users are getting hammered with spam.  Reminds me
of the days, many years ago, before I happened upon Declude...

Todd



-Original Message-
On Sunday, April 14, 2013 10:24 PM,  John Doyle wrote:
I have reverted to a system that works.




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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

2013-04-15 Thread Todd Richards
What system is that?  Our users are getting hammered with spam.  Reminds me
of the days, many years ago, before I happened upon Declude...

Todd



-Original Message-
On Sunday, April 14, 2013 10:24 PM,  John Doyle wrote:
I have reverted to a system that works.




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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

2013-04-14 Thread David Barker
Looks like the website is back up again and the list is working. Not sure 
what's going on. Has anyone had any response from Declude via phone or email ?

I can confirm what Matt is saying there is a key for no validation.  It was put 
into the software for this precise yet unfortunate scenario.

David Barker
Mail’s Best Friend
Email : david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com
Web  : www.mailsbestfriend.com
Office: 703.988.3605 x7015


-Original Message-
From: Matt [mailto:for...@mailpure.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 11:02 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Pete,

There is such a thing.  I lobbied Dave for this back when they went to a 
subscription model.  It was for select users that had the lifetime licenses 
that were concerned about the authentication servers.  I can't say for sure 
that this doesn't deal with their servers at all (I hope not).  Maybe Dave can 
verify this.  I'm willing to share the details of this once I am more certain 
that Declude is completely done.  This license will not allow for AVG or 
Commtouch updates, but it will allow Declude to operate without validation as 
far as I know.

Matt



On 4/10/2013 6:16 PM, Pete McNeil wrote:
 On 2013-04-10 16:21, John Dobbin wrote:
 With all the discussion recently about Declude going down, my concern is 
 more with what happens if/when the licensing server goes away?
 I don't recall where, but I heard a rumor that there was a forever
 license code somewhere for Declude.
 Anybody know anything about that? If Declude just evaporates without
 saying another word that would be a good thing to have.

 _M





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[Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

2013-04-14 Thread John Doyle

Web site is indeed back up
mail list seems to be back too.
I was able to log on to my customer account.

My account number however in diag.txt returns as not valid.

I have reverted to a system that works.


I'll try in the morning to see if they have the validation server running.

As of now, I'm running w/o AVG, and Comm-touch.
I'm running sniffer stand alone.

John


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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

2013-04-13 Thread Pete McNeil
On 2013-04-10 16:21, John Dobbin wrote:
 With all the discussion recently about Declude going down, my concern is more 
 with what happens if/when the licensing server goes away?

I don't recall where, but I heard a rumor that there was a forever
license code somewhere for Declude.
Anybody know anything about that? If Declude just evaporates without
saying another word that would be a good thing to have.

_M

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

2013-04-13 Thread John Doyle
Did the mail list just come alive
???




-Original Message-
From: Pete McNeil [mailto:madscient...@microneil.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 3:17 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

On 2013-04-10 16:21, John Dobbin wrote:
 With all the discussion recently about Declude going down, my concern
is more with what happens if/when the licensing server goes away?

I don't recall where, but I heard a rumor that there was a forever
license code somewhere for Declude.
Anybody know anything about that? If Declude just evaporates without
saying another word that would be a good thing to have.

_M

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

2013-04-13 Thread Matt
Pete,

There is such a thing.  I lobbied Dave for this back when they went to a
subscription model.  It was for select users that had the lifetime
licenses that were concerned about the authentication servers.  I can't
say for sure that this doesn't deal with their servers at all (I hope
not).  Maybe Dave can verify this.  I'm willing to share the details of
this once I am more certain that Declude is completely done.  This
license will not allow for AVG or Commtouch updates, but it will allow
Declude to operate without validation as far as I know.

Matt



On 4/10/2013 6:16 PM, Pete McNeil wrote:
 On 2013-04-10 16:21, John Dobbin wrote:
 With all the discussion recently about Declude going down, my concern is 
 more with what happens if/when the licensing server goes away?
 I don't recall where, but I heard a rumor that there was a forever
 license code somewhere for Declude.
 Anybody know anything about that? If Declude just evaporates without
 saying another word that would be a good thing to have.

 _M





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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

2013-04-10 Thread John Dobbin
Is this list still working?

Thanks

John Dobbin
Pen Publishing Interactive - http://www.penpublishing.com





-Original Message-
From: Dave Beckstrom [mailto:db...@atving.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 3:09 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Someone should start up a new discussion list that everyone can join before 
this one goes away.  It would be good to have a place to continue collboration.





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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

2013-04-10 Thread Herb Guenther
No, there is no one here except us chickens  :)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ain%27t_Nobody_Here_But_Us_Chickens

On 4/10/2013 3:10 PM, John Dobbin wrote:
 Is this list still working?

 Thanks

 John Dobbin
 Pen Publishing Interactive - http://www.penpublishing.com





 -Original Message-
 From: Dave Beckstrom [mailto:db...@atving.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 3:09 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

 Someone should start up a new discussion list that everyone can join before 
 this one goes away.  It would be good to have a place to continue 
 collboration.





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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

2013-04-10 Thread John Dobbin
So it would seem.  With all the discussion recently about Declude going down, 
my concern is more with what happens if/when the licensing server goes away?

What are people looking at to migrate to?

Has there been any actual confirmation aside from postings from former 
employees and people's perceptions? (no offence David)



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Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 3:18 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

2013-04-10 Thread randy
I would like to get an official notice from Declude on what is going on and
how it will affect us, like your example of the license server.



Sincerely,
Randy A.

John Dobbin jo...@penpublishing.com wrote:

So it would seem.  With all the discussion recently about Declude going
down, my concern is more with what happens if/when the licensing server
goes away?

What are people looking at to migrate to?

Has there been any actual confirmation aside from postings from former
employees and people's perceptions? (no offence David)



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Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 3:18 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

2013-04-10 Thread David Barker
No offence taken J  Feel free to email Declude or call them.



David



From: ra...@globalweb.us [mailto:ra...@globalweb.us]
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 4:34 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?



I would like to get an official notice from Declude on what is going on and how 
it will affect us, like your example of the license server.



Sincerely,
Randy A.

John Dobbin wrote:So it would seem. With all the discussion recently about 
Declude going down, my concern is more with what happens if/when the licensing 
server goes away?

What are people looking at to migrate to?

Has there been any actual confirmation aside from postings from former 
employees and people's perceptions? (no offence David)



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Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 3:18 PM
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

2013-04-10 Thread Rick
Well their site  has been down for at least 8hr so far and from what I can tell 
our Commtouch subscription has stopped working since then.  SPAM increased 4x 
since this morning starting around 3AM. Thought it was a config issue after I 
got a email from Declude that I needed to upgrade to avoid issues after 
3/30/2013.



This is not looking good.



From: ra...@globalweb.us [mailto:ra...@globalweb.us]
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 1:34 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?



I would like to get an official notice from Declude on what is going on and how 
it will affect us, like your example of the license server.



Sincerely,
Randy A.

John Dobbin wrote:So it would seem. With all the discussion recently about 
Declude going down, my concern is more with what happens if/when the licensing 
server goes away?

What are people looking at to migrate to?

Has there been any actual confirmation aside from postings from former 
employees and people's perceptions? (no offence David)



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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

2013-04-10 Thread John Doyle
Randy
the web site is now down.
AVG has not been updating since last month.
Commtouch will begin to fail soon.

Sounds like they went upside down. You may never hear another word from
them.
once bills don't get taken care things will stop.

Search for David's email a few days ago and get the latest interim
version and last AVG DB if you still can.
I did the update and it fixed the growing diag.txt issue
see if you can get CLAM going for virus
Call Pete over at ARM Research to have Declude call sniffer directly is
you use it.

I have now clue if at some point Declude simply stops if there is no one
home at Declude.

David is a good resource,
Pete may have other programs to call his product.
Dig out your wallet and call Ipswitch and turn on virus and premium
spam.

it's a mess






From: ra...@globalweb.us [mailto:ra...@globalweb.us]
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 1:34 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?


I would like to get an official notice from Declude on what is going on
and how it will affect us, like your example of the license server.



Sincerely,
Randy A.

John Dobbin wrote:So it would seem. With all the discussion recently
about Declude going down, my concern is more with what happens if/when
the licensing server goes away?

What are people looking at to migrate to?

Has there been any actual confirmation aside from postings from former
employees and people's perceptions? (no offence David)



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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

2013-04-10 Thread Robert Grosshandler
How are you determining that commtouch isn’t working?



From: Rick [mailto:redbara...@qwest.net]
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 3:53 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?



Well their site  has been down for at least 8hr so far and from what I can tell 
our Commtouch subscription has stopped working since then.  SPAM increased 4x 
since this morning starting around 3AM. Thought it was a config issue after I 
got a email from Declude that I needed to upgrade to avoid issues after 
3/30/2013.



This is not looking good.



From: ra...@globalweb.us [mailto:ra...@globalweb.us]
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 1:34 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?



I would like to get an official notice from Declude on what is going on and how 
it will affect us, like your example of the license server.



Sincerely,
Randy A.

John Dobbin wrote:So it would seem. With all the discussion recently about 
Declude going down, my concern is more with what happens if/when the licensing 
server goes away?

What are people looking at to migrate to?

Has there been any actual confirmation aside from postings from former 
employees and people's perceptions? (no offence David)



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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

2013-04-10 Thread Andrew Lobel


Best regards, Andrew

Andrew Lobel
Thinking Fish problem solving technology
Office 020 7100 , Direct 020 3393 1727


On 10 Apr 2013, at 21:53, Rick 
redbara...@qwest.netmailto:redbara...@qwest.net wrote:

Well their site  has been down for at least 8hr so far and from what I can tell 
our Commtouch subscription has stopped working since then.  SPAM increased 4x 
since this morning starting around 3AM. Thought it was a config issue after I 
got a email from Declude that I needed to upgrade to avoid issues after 
3/30/2013.

This is not looking good.

From: ra...@globalweb.usmailto:ra...@globalweb.us [mailto:ra...@globalweb.us]
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 1:34 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.commailto:Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

I would like to get an official notice from Declude on what is going on and how 
it will affect us, like your example of the license server.



Sincerely,
Randy A.

John Dobbin wrote:So it would seem. With all the discussion recently about 
Declude going down, my concern is more with what happens if/when the licensing 
server goes away?

What are people looking at to migrate to?

Has there been any actual confirmation aside from postings from former 
employees and people's perceptions? (no offence David)



-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 3:18 PM
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

2013-04-10 Thread randy
I got the latest updates the other day - thanks!. I was just trying to say
a simple 5 minute email from declude would have been nice to let their
paying customers know the end was coming





Sincerely,
Randy A.

John Doyle jdo...@spicehunter.com wrote:

Randy
the web site is now down.
AVG has not been updating since last month.
Commtouch will begin to fail soon.

Sounds like they went upside down. You may never hear another word from
them.
once bills don't get taken care things will stop.

Search for David's email a few days ago and get the latest interim
version and last AVG DB if you still can.
I did the update and it fixed the growing diag.txt issue
see if you can get CLAM going for virus
Call Pete over at ARM Research to have Declude call sniffer directly is
you use it.

I have now clue if at some point Declude simply stops if there is no one
home at Declude.

David is a good resource,
Pete may have other programs to call his product.
Dig out your wallet and call Ipswitch and turn on virus and premium
spam.

it's a mess






From: ra...@globalweb.us [mailto:ra...@globalweb.us]
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 1:34 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?


I would like to get an official notice from Declude on what is going on
and how it will affect us, like your example of the license server.



Sincerely,
Randy A.

John Dobbin wrote:So it would seem. With all the discussion recently
about Declude going down, my concern is more with what happens if/when
the licensing server goes away?

What are people looking at to migrate to?

Has there been any actual confirmation aside from postings from former
employees and people's perceptions? (no offence David)



-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 3:18 PM
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

2013-04-10 Thread SM Admin
Hi Dave,

Can you tell us who the owners are of Declude and in what state it is 
incorporated? We might be able to find out if they’ve filed for bankruptcy or 
other legal proceedings.

Thanks,

Ben

From: David Barker
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 1:47 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

No offence taken J  Feel free to email Declude or call them.



David



From: ra...@globalweb.us [mailto:ra...@globalweb.us]
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 4:34 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?



I would like to get an official notice from Declude on what is going on and how 
it will affect us, like your example of the license server.



Sincerely,
Randy A.

John Dobbin wrote:So it would seem. With all the discussion recently about 
Declude going down, my concern is more with what happens if/when the licensing 
server goes away?

What are people looking at to migrate to?

Has there been any actual confirmation aside from postings from former 
employees and people's perceptions? (no offence David)



-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 3:18 PM
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

2013-04-10 Thread John Doyle
Robert

look in the declude log file, for
CT-BULK or CT-SPAM (depending on how you set it up in your global.cfg
file
AT 2:18 Pacific time today mine was still working

Use the links below and download the data.

John







From: Robert Grosshandler [mailto:r...@igive.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 2:00 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?



How are you determining that commtouch isn't working?



From: Rick [mailto:redbara...@qwest.net]
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 3:53 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?



Well their site  has been down for at least 8hr so far and from what I
can tell our Commtouch subscription has stopped working since then.
SPAM increased 4x since this morning starting around 3AM. Thought it was
a config issue after I got a email from Declude that I needed to upgrade
to avoid issues after 3/30/2013.



This is not looking good.



From: ra...@globalweb.us [mailto:ra...@globalweb.us]
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 1:34 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?



I would like to get an official notice from Declude on what is going on
and how it will affect us, like your example of the license server.



Sincerely,
Randy A.

John Dobbin wrote:So it would seem. With all the discussion recently
about Declude going down, my concern is more with what happens if/when
the licensing server goes away?

What are people looking at to migrate to?

Has there been any actual confirmation aside from postings from former
employees and people's perceptions? (no offence David)



-Original Message-
From: Herb Guenther [mailto:h...@lanex.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 3:18 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

2013-04-10 Thread John Dobbin
Does this help?



http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/private/snapshot.asp?privcapId=22563280





From: SM Admin [mailto:imailad...@bcwebhost.net]
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 4:15 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?



Hi Dave,



Can you tell us who the owners are of Declude and in what state it is 
incorporated? We might be able to find out if they’ve filed for bankruptcy or 
other legal proceedings.



Thanks,



Ben



From: David Barker mailto:david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com

Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 1:47 PM

To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com

Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?



No offence taken J  Feel free to email Declude or call them.



David



From: ra...@globalweb.us [mailto:ra...@globalweb.us]
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 4:34 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?



I would like to get an official notice from Declude on what is going on and how 
it will affect us, like your example of the license server.



Sincerely,
Randy A.

John Dobbin wrote:So it would seem. With all the discussion recently about 
Declude going down, my concern is more with what happens if/when the licensing 
server goes away?

What are people looking at to migrate to?

Has there been any actual confirmation aside from postings from former 
employees and people's perceptions? (no offence David)



-Original Message-
From: Herb Guenther [mailto:h...@lanex.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 3:18 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?



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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

2013-04-10 Thread Robert Grosshandler
Thanks.  Mine too.



From: John Doyle [mailto:jdo...@spicehunter.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 4:18 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?



Robert



look in the declude log file, for

CT-BULK or CT-SPAM (depending on how you set it up in your global.cfg file

AT 2:18 Pacific time today mine was still working



Use the links below and download the data.



John











  _

From: Robert Grosshandler [mailto:r...@igive.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 2:00 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

How are you determining that commtouch isn’t working?



From: Rick [mailto:redbara...@qwest.net]
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 3:53 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?



Well their site  has been down for at least 8hr so far and from what I can tell 
our Commtouch subscription has stopped working since then.  SPAM increased 4x 
since this morning starting around 3AM. Thought it was a config issue after I 
got a email from Declude that I needed to upgrade to avoid issues after 
3/30/2013.



This is not looking good.



From: ra...@globalweb.us [mailto:ra...@globalweb.us]
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 1:34 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?



I would like to get an official notice from Declude on what is going on and how 
it will affect us, like your example of the license server.



Sincerely,
Randy A.

John Dobbin wrote:So it would seem. With all the discussion recently about 
Declude going down, my concern is more with what happens if/when the licensing 
server goes away?

What are people looking at to migrate to?

Has there been any actual confirmation aside from postings from former 
employees and people's perceptions? (no offence David)



-Original Message-
From: Herb Guenther [mailto:h...@lanex.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 3:18 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?



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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

2013-04-10 Thread David Barker
Please don’t spend any money until you have at least spoken to us.  If we can’t 
help you perhaps we can point you in the right direction.



David



From: John Doyle [mailto:jdo...@spicehunter.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 4:59 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?



Randy

the web site is now down.

AVG has not been updating since last month.

Commtouch will begin to fail soon.



Sounds like they went upside down. You may never hear another word from them.

once bills don't get taken care things will stop.



Search for David's email a few days ago and get the latest interim version and 
last AVG DB if you still can.

I did the update and it fixed the growing diag.txt issue

see if you can get CLAM going for virus

Call Pete over at ARM Research to have Declude call sniffer directly is you use 
it.



I have now clue if at some point Declude simply stops if there is no one home 
at Declude.



David is a good resource,

Pete may have other programs to call his product.

Dig out your wallet and call Ipswitch and turn on virus and premium spam.



it's a mess









  _

From: ra...@globalweb.us [mailto:ra...@globalweb.us]
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 1:34 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

I would like to get an official notice from Declude on what is going on and how 
it will affect us, like your example of the license server.



Sincerely,
Randy A.

John Dobbin wrote:So it would seem. With all the discussion recently about 
Declude going down, my concern is more with what happens if/when the licensing 
server goes away?

What are people looking at to migrate to?

Has there been any actual confirmation aside from postings from former 
employees and people's perceptions? (no offence David)



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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

2013-04-09 Thread Katie La Salle-Lowery
David has helped me with a Declude issue quite recently as well.  I have always 
received good support from David and Linda and look forward to continuing to do 
business with them and wish them the best of luck in their new venture!


Katie LaSalle-Lowery
ka...@centric.net
1120 S. Russell; Ste B
Missoula, MT 59801
ph (406)549-3337
fax (406)541-9338


-Original Message-
From: declude [mailto:decl...@mail.net1media.com]
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 5:59 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Sadly, no one from Declude has ever gotten back to me.  On the plus side, my 
credit card was never charged.

In a very gracious move, David Barker reached out to me.  He and Linda spent 
their own time and got my problem resolved!  They have started a new business, 
Mails Best Friend.  It is new and they are still working out the details.  He 
can be contacted at  david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com.  With this kind of 
service, I expect to see great things from them.

Don


-- Original Message --
From: SM Admin imailad...@bcwebhost.net
Reply-To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Date:  Mon, 8 Apr 2013 16:10:57 -0700

So, has no one still heard nothing from Declude? This is my favorite anti-spam 
service and I would hate to lose them.

Ben
  - Original Message -
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  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
  Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 10:21 AM
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?


  Last Wednesday (3/27/2013), I renewed my Declude and Messaage Sniffer 
 service agreements.  A full week later, they both still come up as expired.  
 All phone calls and emails have gone unanswered.  I left voice mails for Tech 
 support, Sales and the phone number previously listed on this list for John.  
 I emailed both support at declude and jprovost at declude.com.

  I don't know where to go from here.

  A very sad time for Declude.

  Don




  
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

2013-04-09 Thread Michael Cummins
David and Linda have always provided outstanding service.

- Michael Cummins




-Original Message-
From: Katie La Salle-Lowery [mailto:ka...@centric.net]
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 11:15 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?


David has helped me with a Declude issue quite recently as well.  I have always 
received good support from David and Linda and look forward to continuing to do 
business with them and wish them the best of luck in their new venture!


Katie LaSalle-Lowery
ka...@centric.net
1120 S. Russell; Ste B
Missoula, MT 59801
ph (406)549-3337
fax (406)541-9338


-Original Message-
From: declude [mailto:decl...@mail.net1media.com]
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 5:59 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Sadly, no one from Declude has ever gotten back to me.  On the plus side, my 
credit card was never charged.

In a very gracious move, David Barker reached out to me.  He and Linda spent 
their own time and got my problem resolved!  They have started a new business, 
Mails Best Friend.  It is new and they are still working out the details.  He 
can be contacted at  david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com.  With this kind of 
service, I expect to see great things from them.

Don


-- Original Message --
From: SM Admin imailad...@bcwebhost.net
Reply-To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Date:  Mon, 8 Apr 2013 16:10:57 -0700

So, has no one still heard nothing from Declude? This is my favorite anti-spam 
service and I would hate to lose them.

Ben
  - Original Message -
  From: declude
  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
  Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 10:21 AM
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?


  Last Wednesday (3/27/2013), I renewed my Declude and Messaage Sniffer 
 service agreements.  A full week later, they both still come up as expired.  
 All phone calls and emails have gone unanswered.  I left voice mails for Tech 
 support, Sales and the phone number previously listed on this list for John.  
 I emailed both support at declude and jprovost at declude.com.

  I don't know where to go from here.

  A very sad time for Declude.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

2013-04-09 Thread Dave Beckstrom
Someone should start up a new discussion list that everyone can join before
this one goes away.  It would be good to have a place to continue
collboration.





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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

2013-04-09 Thread David Barker
Yes I will be the someone. When this list dies make sure you email me you 
contact so I can get you on a new list.

David Barker
Mail’s Best Friend
Email : david.bar...@mailsbestfriend.com
Web  : www.mailsbestfriend.com
Office: 703.988.3605 x7015
Mobile  : 978.518.6461




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Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 4:09 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Someone should start up a new discussion list that everyone can join before 
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

2013-04-08 Thread SM Admin
So, has no one still heard nothing from Declude? This is my favorite anti-spam 
service and I would hate to lose them.

Ben
  - Original Message -
  From: declude
  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
  Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 10:21 AM
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?


  Last Wednesday (3/27/2013), I renewed my Declude and Messaage Sniffer service 
agreements.  A full week later, they both still come up as expired.  All phone 
calls and emails have gone unanswered.  I left voice mails for Tech support, 
Sales and the phone number previously listed on this list for John.  I emailed 
both support at declude and jprovost at declude.com.

  I don't know where to go from here.

  A very sad time for Declude.

  Don




  
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Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

2013-04-08 Thread Sanford Whiteman
 So, has no one still heard nothing from Declude? This is my favorite 
 anti-spam service and I would hate to lose them.

Well, no apologetic post here == bye-bye to the product, IMO.

What really irks me when this happens (I've had it happen to two beloved 
boutique apps in the past) is that no one gives a thought to open-sourcing 
it, just destroying it.  We aren't OS zealots and most of us are sysadmins, but 
that doesn't mean we couldn't make us of the code. Not to mention the grossly 
unethical, possibly illegal behavior of abandoning people with active 
maintenance.

-- S.



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RE: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

2013-04-08 Thread Andy Schmidt
 Not to mention the grossly unethical, possibly illegal behavior of 
 abandoning people with active maintenance 



I’m still prepaid until end of June…



From: Sanford Whiteman [mailto:sa...@figureone.com]
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 7:37 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?



 So, has no one still heard nothing from Declude? This is my favorite 
 anti-spam service and I would hate to lose them.

Well, no apologetic post here == bye-bye to the product, IMO.

What really irks me when this happens (I've had it happen to two beloved 
boutique apps in the past) is that no one gives a thought to open-sourcing 
it, just destroying it.  We aren't OS zealots and most of us are sysadmins, but 
that doesn't mean we couldn't make us of the code. Not to mention the grossly 
unethical, possibly illegal behavior of abandoning people with active 
maintenance.

-- S.

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[Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

2013-04-03 Thread declude
Last Wednesday (3/27/2013), I renewed my Declude and Messaage Sniffer service 
agreements.  A full week later, they both still come up as expired.  All phone 
calls and emails have gone unanswered.  I left voice mails for Tech support, 
Sales and the phone number previously listed on this list for John.  I emailed 
both support at declude and jprovost at declude.com.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

2013-04-03 Thread Robert Grosshandler
You can probably contact the message sniffer folks directly.  There's not much 
about Declude itself that requires updates, so long as it is working.

http://armresearch.com/

Good luck,

Rob



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From: declude [mailto:decl...@mail.net1media.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 12:22 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Last Wednesday (3/27/2013), I renewed my Declude and Messaage Sniffer service 
agreements.  A full week later, they both still come up as expired.  All phone 
calls and emails have gone unanswered.  I left voice mails for Tech support, 
Sales and the phone number previously listed on this list for John.  I emailed 
both support at declude and jprovost at declude.com.

I don't know where to go from here.

A very sad time for Declude.

Don





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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

2013-04-03 Thread Christopher Jaime
This got me thinking...
There's not much about Declude itself that requires updates

On this page there is mention of updating the AVG license key:
http://www.declude.com/searchresults.asp?Cat=89

I'm wondering what the next expiration date is for AVG...
I guess if AVG is an annual update, we'll all know real soon!

- Chris



On 4/3/2013 11:31 AM, Robert Grosshandler wrote:
 You can probably contact the message sniffer folks directly.  There's not 
 much about Declude itself that requires updates, so long as it is working.

 http://armresearch.com/

 Good luck,

 Rob



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 Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 12:22 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

 Last Wednesday (3/27/2013), I renewed my Declude and Messaage Sniffer service 
 agreements.  A full week later, they both still come up as expired.  All 
 phone calls and emails have gone unanswered.  I left voice mails for Tech 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

2013-04-03 Thread Katie La Salle-Lowery
Was the transaction for renewal posted on your cc or dc?


Katie LaSalle-Lowery
ka...@centric.net
1120 S. Russell; Ste B
Missoula, MT 59801
ph (406)549-3337
fax (406)541-9338

-Original Message-
From: Robert Grosshandler [mailto:r...@igive.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 12:32 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

You can probably contact the message sniffer folks directly.  There's not much 
about Declude itself that requires updates, so long as it is working.

http://armresearch.com/

Good luck,

Rob



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Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 12:22 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] No one at Declude?

Last Wednesday (3/27/2013), I renewed my Declude and Messaage Sniffer service 
agreements.  A full week later, they both still come up as expired.  All phone 
calls and emails have gone unanswered.  I left voice mails for Tech support, 
Sales and the phone number previously listed on this list for John.  I emailed 
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I don't know where to go from here.

A very sad time for Declude.

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