Re: [Declude.JunkMail] URL Redirectors

2003-11-12 Thread Matthew Bramble
George,

Spammers will use a variety of Yahoo sub-domains, most of which are 
valid.  I'm not familiar with that one in particular, but it might help 
to search Google for examples of that showing up (that's how I do some 
of my research).

   
http://www.google.com/search?hl=enlr=ie=UTF-8client=googletq=%22drs.yahoo.%2Bcom%22

Blocking that one address though would only be a fraction of the spam 
that actually uses Yahoo's redirection though.  Yahoo does use it 
themselves of course, and they also have it configured for links in 
messages sent by third parties, such as Classmates for instance.

Matt



George Kulman wrote:

Hi all,

I have an IMail client who doesn't have budget funds available for Declude
where these are easily filterable.  A fair amount of their spam contains a
URL redirection such as:
http://drs.yahoo.com/effloresce/*http://click.com-click.com.ph/click.php?id=
leneyeiID=40gi=hallmark
1.  Is anyone aware of a dnsbl that deals with spamming URL redirectors?
2.  Is anyone aware of legitimate email using this type of URL?
3.  Is the drs.yahoo.com ever used for legitimate email.
TIA,

George
 



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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] URL Redirectors

2003-11-12 Thread George Kulman
Matt,

Thanks for the info.  It's still difficult for me to imagine a legitimate
user having a redirected web site being pointed to as their web site in an
email.

More research I guess.

George

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 George,
 
 Spammers will use a variety of Yahoo sub-domains, most of which are 
 valid.  I'm not familiar with that one in particular, but it 
 might help 
 to search Google for examples of that showing up (that's how 
 I do some 
 of my research).
 
 
http://www.google.com/search?hl=enlr=ie=UTF-8client=googletq=%22drs.yaho
o.%2Bcom%22

Blocking that one address though would only be a fraction of the spam 
that actually uses Yahoo's redirection though.  Yahoo does use it 
themselves of course, and they also have it configured for links in 
messages sent by third parties, such as Classmates for instance.

Matt



George Kulman wrote:

Hi all,

I have an IMail client who doesn't have budget funds available for Declude
where these are easily filterable.  A fair amount of their spam contains a
URL redirection such as:

http://drs.yahoo.com/effloresce/*http://click.com-click.com.ph/click.php?id
=
leneyeiID=40gi=hallmark

1. Is anyone aware of a dnsbl that deals with spamming URL redirectors?
2. Is anyone aware of legitimate email using this type of URL?
3. Is the drs.yahoo.com ever used for legitimate email.

TIA,

George
  



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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] URL Redirectors

2003-11-12 Thread Matthew Bramble




George,

I did build a test for this exact thing and shared it on my site
(called Y!DIRECTED), but I thought that you might have been more
interested in that URL in particular and replied accordingly. My
Y!DIRECTED filter will stop most of this stuff and it allows for places
like Yahoo and Yahoo's ads (and counterbalances for the chance that a
link might be forwarded or replied to and sent to a local user). It
only works with Declude Pro (like all other custom filters).

 MailPure :: Filter Software :: Declude Filters
 http://www.mailpure.com/software/decludefilters/

Matt



George Kulman wrote:

  Matt,

Thanks for the info.  It's still difficult for me to imagine a "legitimate"
user having a redirected web site being pointed to as "their web site" in an
email.

More research I guess.

George

  
  
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Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] URL Redirectors


George,

Spammers will use a variety of Yahoo sub-domains, most of which are 
valid.  I'm not familiar with that one in particular, but it 
might help 
to search Google for examples of that showing up (that's how 
I do some 
of my research).



  
  http://www.google.com/search?hl=enlr=ie=UTF-8client=googletq=%22drs.yaho
o.%2Bcom%22

Blocking that one address though would only be a fraction of the spam 
that actually uses Yahoo's redirection though.  Yahoo does use it 
themselves of course, and they also have it configured for links in 
messages sent by third parties, such as Classmates for instance.

Matt



George Kulman wrote:

  
  
Hi all,

I have an IMail client who doesn't have budget funds available for Declude
where these are easily filterable.  A fair amount of their spam contains a
URL redirection such as:

http://drs.yahoo.com/effloresce/*http://click.com-click.com.ph/click.php?id

  
  =
  
  
leneyeiID=40gi=hallmark

1.	Is anyone aware of a dnsbl that deals with spamming URL redirectors?
2.	Is anyone aware of legitimate email using this type of URL?
3.	Is the drs.yahoo.com ever used for legitimate email.

TIA,

George
 


  
  





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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] URL Redirectors

2003-11-12 Thread George Kulman
Title: Message



Matt,

I'm 
familiar with the Y!DIRECTED and other tests that you've so kindly made 
available. In this case I'm trying to find a way to identify these and 
block them with the basic IMail tests.

If I 
can't, then I'll have to route all of their mail through my Declude Pro 
environment.

George

  
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  On Behalf Of Matthew BrambleSent: Wednesday, November 12, 
  2003 5:16 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: 
  [Declude.JunkMail] URL RedirectorsGeorge,I did 
  build a test for this exact thing and shared it on my site (called 
  Y!DIRECTED), but I thought that you might have been more interested in that 
  URL in particular and replied accordingly. My Y!DIRECTED filter will 
  stop most of this stuff and it allows for places like Yahoo and Yahoo's ads 
  (and counterbalances for the chance that a link might be forwarded or replied 
  to and sent to a local user). It only works with Declude Pro (like all 
  other custom filters). MailPure :: Filter Software :: 
  Declude Filters http://www.mailpure.com/software/decludefilters/MattGeorge 
  Kulman wrote:
  Matt,

Thanks for the info.  It's still difficult for me to imagine a "legitimate"
user having a redirected web site being pointed to as "their web site" in an
email.

More research I guess.

George

  
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of 
Matthew Bramble
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 2:37 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] URL Redirectors


George,

Spammers will use a variety of Yahoo sub-domains, most of which are 
valid.  I'm not familiar with that one in particular, but it 
might help 
to search Google for examples of that showing up (that's how 
I do some 
of my research).


http://www.google.com/search?hl=enlr=ie=UTF-8client=googletq=%22drs.yaho
o.%2Bcom%22

Blocking that one address though would only be a fraction of the spam 
that actually uses Yahoo's redirection though.  Yahoo does use it 
themselves of course, and they also have it configured for links in 
messages sent by third parties, such as Classmates for instance.

Matt



George Kulman wrote:

  
Hi all,

I have an IMail client who doesn't have budget funds available for Declude
where these are easily filterable.  A fair amount of their spam contains a
URL redirection such as:

http://drs.yahoo.com/effloresce/*http://click.com-click.com.ph/click.php?id
=
  
leneyeiID=40gi=hallmark

1.	Is anyone aware of a dnsbl that deals with spamming URL redirectors?
2.	Is anyone aware of legitimate email using this type of URL?
3.	Is the drs.yahoo.com ever used for legitimate email.

TIA,

George
 

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