[Declude.Virus] Message id with ATTACH action

2004-11-16 Thread Kaj Søndergaard Laursen

Hi

I'm using Imail+Declude as a anti-spam+virus smtp-relay in front of my exchange 
server. It seems to me that when I use the ATTACH options every message gets a 
message-id [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I suspect that causes some strange issues at my exchange server - at least when 
I use message tracking.

What is the cause of this, and should something be done?

Regards,

Kaj
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RE: [Declude.Virus] ClamAV scan time

2004-11-16 Thread John Carter








FYI – 1st scanner is
F-Prot. 2nd is ClamAV.  I am using the “runclamscan”
wrapper found at http://www.smartbusiness.com/imail/declude/.

 

Today I haven’t had any left over
directories and vir*.log is clean of errors.  It may have been the
particular load at that time and message size as someone mentioned yesterday.

 

John

 









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ClamAV scan time



 

Terry,

Maybe if you could clarify.  You are running ClamAV in daemon mode, am I
correct?

My point was that as of several months ago, the non-daemon installation was a
processor hog and took a lot of time compared to F-Prot, the best performing
scanner.  Things might have changed since then.  I also noted that
when run in daemon mode, ClamAV was virtually as fast as F-Prot, and used less
resources.  I'm not running ClamAV because I had issues with the
stability/management of their daemon at that time.  I suspect that things
have changed since then.

Regardless, I would not be surprised to see the per-process launched ClamAV
causing excessive load on a busy server.  It wasn't clear if John was
running one way or another.  Hitting a 60 second timeout suggests that his
server was being redlined for a prolonged period of time, and going to the
daemon mode might provide substantial relief.  If his other scanner isn't
F-Prot, he should also think about switching because there is nothing as
efficient as F-Prot, and it hardly uses any resources.

Matt



Terry Fritts wrote:



ClamAV when not run in daemon mode is very slow in comparison to othervirus scanners.  If your server is getting pushed to it's limits, the first sign will likely be their vir directories piling up as a result of ClamAV not finishing within the specified time configured in Declude Virus. I played around with daemon mode several months back, but there was an issue with the service not shutting down when you told it to, so I abandoned it for the time being.  Maybe some others have information about how to do this properly now with newer builds.    

   My log records the scan times.  I did check when I read this and  there are a few excessively long scan times.   I checked about 10,000 entries.  There were 360 scans that took  longer than .5 sec.  There were 206 that took 1 sec or longer.   Also, I record the total time, the time to check to see if the  service is running, and then the actual scan time. In my worst case  these numbers were recorded: 13.3490,11.947,1.402. But notice that  the middle number is the time to check to see if the service is  running. This indicates to me that the issue is not with ClamAV but  with the server load at the time of the scan. I know the server is  being hammered anyway.   I did check to see if there were any correlation between the file  size and the long elapsed times and I really could not find any.   But then again we are not handling huge numbers of messages either.   My programs are available for download at:  http://www.smartbusiness.com/imail/declude/    Terry Fritts   ---[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] ---This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list.  Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.Virus".    The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com.    





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Re: [Declude.Virus] ClamAV scan time

2004-11-16 Thread Matt




Terry,

Maybe if you could clarify.  You are running ClamAV in daemon mode, am
I correct?

My point was that as of several months ago, the non-daemon installation
was a processor hog and took a lot of time compared to F-Prot, the best
performing scanner.  Things might have changed since then.  I also
noted that when run in daemon mode, ClamAV was virtually as fast as
F-Prot, and used less resources.  I'm not running ClamAV because I had
issues with the stability/management of their daemon at that time.  I
suspect that things have changed since then.

Regardless, I would not be surprised to see the per-process launched
ClamAV causing excessive load on a busy server.  It wasn't clear if
John was running one way or another.  Hitting a 60 second timeout
suggests that his server was being redlined for a prolonged period of
time, and going to the daemon mode might provide substantial relief. 
If his other scanner isn't F-Prot, he should also think about switching
because there is nothing as efficient as F-Prot, and it hardly uses any
resources.

Matt



Terry Fritts wrote:

  
ClamAV when not run in daemon mode is very slow in comparison to other
virus scanners.  If your server is getting pushed to it's limits, the 
first sign will likely be their vir directories piling up as a result of 
ClamAV not finishing within the specified time configured in Declude Virus.

I played around with daemon mode several months back, but there was an 
issue with the service not shutting down when you told it to, so I 
abandoned it for the time being.  Maybe some others have information 
about how to do this properly now with newer builds.

  
  
  My log records the scan times.  I did check when I read this and
  there are a few excessively long scan times.

  I checked about 10,000 entries.  There were 360 scans that took
  longer than .5 sec.  There were 206 that took 1 sec or longer.

  Also, I record the total time, the time to check to see if the
  service is running, and then the actual scan time. In my worst case
  these numbers were recorded: 13.3490,11.947,1.402. But notice that
  the middle number is the time to check to see if the service is
  running. This indicates to me that the issue is not with ClamAV but
  with the server load at the time of the scan. I know the server is
  being hammered anyway.

  I did check to see if there were any correlation between the file
  size and the long elapsed times and I really could not find any.

  But then again we are not handling huge numbers of messages either.

  My programs are available for download at:
  http://www.smartbusiness.com/imail/declude/
  
  Terry Fritts
  

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Re: [Declude.Virus] ClamAV scan time

2004-11-16 Thread Terry Fritts

> ClamAV when not run in daemon mode is very slow in comparison to other
> virus scanners.  If your server is getting pushed to it's limits, the 
> first sign will likely be their vir directories piling up as a result of 
> ClamAV not finishing within the specified time configured in Declude Virus.
> 
> I played around with daemon mode several months back, but there was an 
> issue with the service not shutting down when you told it to, so I 
> abandoned it for the time being.  Maybe some others have information 
> about how to do this properly now with newer builds.

  My log records the scan times.  I did check when I read this and
  there are a few excessively long scan times.

  I checked about 10,000 entries.  There were 360 scans that took
  longer than .5 sec.  There were 206 that took 1 sec or longer.

  Also, I record the total time, the time to check to see if the
  service is running, and then the actual scan time. In my worst case
  these numbers were recorded: 13.3490,11.947,1.402. But notice that
  the middle number is the time to check to see if the service is
  running. This indicates to me that the issue is not with ClamAV but
  with the server load at the time of the scan. I know the server is
  being hammered anyway.

  I did check to see if there were any correlation between the file
  size and the long elapsed times and I really could not find any.

  But then again we are not handling huge numbers of messages either.

  My programs are available for download at:
  http://www.smartbusiness.com/imail/declude/
  
  Terry Fritts
  

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[Declude.Virus] Corrupt price.exe ?

2004-11-16 Thread Markus Gufler
Some minutes ago I've received a message with price.exe as attachment.
(John: due to ISP activity we cant simply block exe's :-)

I've forwarded the file (67 Bytes) to virustotal.com and the response was:


Virus Total
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Codification 7bit
Unsupported or malformed attached file codification 
(Response to a message sent on Tue, 16 Nov 2004 11:38:48 +0100)



So according to the file size it seems there is a corrupt/incomplete variant
of this virus out and it's worth to block with BANNAME price.exe if it's not
possible to block all exe files.

Have I missed something?

Markus


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