RE: [Declude.Virus] Declude Virus inoperable for 13% of th year?
How much are we willing to pay? It doesn't matter if it costs $5 or $5000 if the product doesn't work. Especially when you, the developer, doesn't notice the problem for a month and a half - especially when the problem has been reported by end users. Do you not run your own product? Maybe you don't realize this, but your whining customers put a level of trust in your company whether you want it or not. This trust is automatic when you are dealing with A/V products that protect mail systems and their networks. If you lose that trust, the cost won't matter. You won't have enough customers to stay in business anyway. Price you product at whatever you think you need to. The mail admins will either buy it or they won't. Maybe it's time for you to find another person to communicate with the list. You certainly aren't giving your end users that warm and fuzzy feeling. (IMO) Regards, ~Patrick mailto:pchild...@hgbd.com _ From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of David Barker Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 12:14 PM To: declude.virus@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Declude Virus inoperable for 13% of th year? Darin, I accept your constructive criticism. With regard to the situation; 1. We recognize that this was a serious failure 2. The issue was highlighted and resolved in the quickest possible time 3. Procedural steps have been put in place to ensure that this does not happen again. 4. This was an unfortunate circumstance and I understand the frustration on the part of Declude customers 5. We make every effort to meet the needs of our customers My statement regarding increased prices has less to do with this current problem as it has to do with moving forward and preventing issues like this in the future. More $ means more resources which means more can be done which equates to less risk in all areas. Declude has given good service, value for money and a product that works for minimum $. I understand that the expectation is always more for less, however if customers expect more than what is currently being delivered then I have to ask the question, in clear, open and honest communication.. Mr/s Customer how much more are you willing to pay so that we can invest in more resources in order to develop a better product? David Barker VP Operations Declude Your Email security is our business 978.499.2933 office 978.988.1311 fax mailto:dbar...@declude.com dbar...@declude.com From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Darin Cox Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 11:50 AM To: declude.virus@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Declude Virus inoperable for 13% of th year? Wow, what a way to respond to a long-time, loyal paying customer! Instead of apologizing for the serious problem and relaying what steps are being taken to avoid it happening again (a simple reminder in the calendar system of your choice would suffice), it's being thrown back in the customer's face. Regarding the question of increasing prices for service agreements, that has no bearing on a current customer who has already paid the fees. Such customers should expect the service they paid for to be rendered. Failure to do so is a breach of agreement on Declude's part. While we are all human and problems can occur, this is a serious failure, and the tone of the response being putative instead of apologetic makes customers less forgiving, not more. To be frank, many customers are asking what they are paying for, when fix and feature requests take months to be released, or not at all. I understand the situation may be frustrating, but it's often best to step back for a moment, vent elsewhere if needed, then respond professionally to customers. Clear, open, and honest communication also helps. Please don't take this email as incendiary. It is meant to be constructive. Darin. - Original Message - From: David Barker mailto:dbar...@declude.com To: declude.virus@declude.com Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 11:07 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Declude Virus inoperable for 13% of th year? Andy, a. Declude Virus does not have a built in system to report this error as with this specific example. What happened here is not the norm but an exception. It was not our choice to hard code the expiration date but a requirement from AVG. In this instance the specific persons who we had been working with at AVG are no longer with the company and the process of having this renewed took longer than usual. b. I am not sure if you are being facetious, but if it makes you feel better, sure you can schedule a reminder for me, please email me at least 3 month prior of the new expiration date 2010-12-31 c. Yes AVG was not working as it should have been since 2009-04-10 I agree with you - this is totally unacceptable, intolerable, painful and
RE: [Declude.Virus] Declude Virus inoperable for 13% of th year?
Comments are in-line. _ From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of David Barker Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 10:03 AM To: declude.virus@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Declude Virus inoperable for 13% of th year? Sorry no marketing department to give you the warm and fuzzy spin, just me. Obviously. Couple of suggestions. Declude has the ability to run upto 5 additional cmd line scanners of your choice, we provide AVG as a courtesy to our customers as in the past Declude did not have any internal virus scanner, you would have to go out and purchase that separately Well aware of that. It would be good to run more than 1 virus scanner for several reasons, one of which is failure of an AV scanner, (admittedly in this instance failure was on our part) But rest assured false positives, no virus signatures, lag time are problems ALL AV vendors are faced with. There are some that are free that work extremely well ClamWin or ClamAV is an example of this. In addition we have ZEROHOUR as a option for Perpetual license customers as an additional virus scanners providing ZEROHOUR protection and additional spam definitions. For the amount of money that this is being offered for it is a wise investment. If you opted out of this because you didn't want to spend the extra few $ on security then you have different issues and it's not Declude. LOL. I maybe one of the few, but I can spend almost whatever I need to to protect my network. I do run multiple scanners as well as virus scanning on the perimeter firewall. If you didn't want to spend the extra few $ on making sure your code is up-to-date then you have different issues and it's not your customers. Lastly Patrick please contact supp...@declude.com having looked at your host record it does not look like you are receiving any AV updates - it could be that your firewall is blocking the AV updates, our support can work with you to fix that. LOL again. Don't need to. I don't use AVG. I only chimed in because I felt that your responses to the issue was not helpful and somewhat offending the users of your product. Again, if you can't get the job done at current income levels, I suggest you come up with the necessary figure after reviewing your operating costs. You're the one selling a product. As for you wanting to know what I will pay for your product, I will leave you with this answer: As much as I think it is worth. If the product is rock solid and I feel (or believe) that the company is trying to stay up with current technologies and cares about me as a customer, I will pay much more than I would to a company that doesn't project those qualities. Oh, and by the way, I know how to setup a firewall. So, why don't you guys concentrate on your code instead. Thanks, Patrick Thanks David From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Childers Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 9:13 AM To: declude.virus@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Declude Virus inoperable for 13% of th year? How much are we willing to pay? It doesn't matter if it costs $5 or $5000 if the product doesn't work. Especially when you, the developer, doesn't notice the problem for a month and a half - especially when the problem has been reported by end users. Do you not run your own product? Maybe you don't realize this, but your whining customers put a level of trust in your company whether you want it or not. This trust is automatic when you are dealing with A/V products that protect mail systems and their networks. If you lose that trust, the cost won't matter. You won't have enough customers to stay in business anyway. Price you product at whatever you think you need to. The mail admins will either buy it or they won't. Maybe it's time for you to find another person to communicate with the list. You certainly aren't giving your end users that warm and fuzzy feeling. (IMO) Regards, ~Patrick _ From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of David Barker Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 12:14 PM To: declude.virus@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Declude Virus inoperable for 13% of th year? Darin, I accept your constructive criticism. With regard to the situation; 1. We recognize that this was a serious failure 2. The issue was highlighted and resolved in the quickest possible time 3. Procedural steps have been put in place to ensure that this does not happen again. 4. This was an unfortunate circumstance and I understand the frustration on the part of Declude customers 5. We make every effort to meet the needs of our customers My statement regarding increased prices has less to do with this current problem as it has to do with moving forward and preventing issues like this in the future. More $ means more resources which means more
RE: [Declude.Virus] Declude Virus inoperable for 13% of th year?
I run a business and I work for a business. Thank you. Maybe you should work for one... ~P _ From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of David Barker Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 1:17 PM To: declude.virus@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Declude Virus inoperable for 13% of th year? . but I can spend almost whatever I need to to protect my network. There are those of us who run businesses and then there are those who work for them. Either way your feedback is appreciated ;) David From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Childers Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 12:50 PM To: declude.virus@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Declude Virus inoperable for 13% of th year? Comments are in-line. _ From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of David Barker Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 10:03 AM To: declude.virus@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Declude Virus inoperable for 13% of th year? Sorry no marketing department to give you the warm and fuzzy spin, just me. Obviously. Couple of suggestions. Declude has the ability to run upto 5 additional cmd line scanners of your choice, we provide AVG as a courtesy to our customers as in the past Declude did not have any internal virus scanner, you would have to go out and purchase that separately Well aware of that. It would be good to run more than 1 virus scanner for several reasons, one of which is failure of an AV scanner, (admittedly in this instance failure was on our part) But rest assured false positives, no virus signatures, lag time are problems ALL AV vendors are faced with. There are some that are free that work extremely well ClamWin or ClamAV is an example of this. In addition we have ZEROHOUR as a option for Perpetual license customers as an additional virus scanners providing ZEROHOUR protection and additional spam definitions. For the amount of money that this is being offered for it is a wise investment. If you opted out of this because you didn't want to spend the extra few $ on security then you have different issues and it's not Declude. LOL. I maybe one of the few, but I can spend almost whatever I need to to protect my network. I do run multiple scanners as well as virus scanning on the perimeter firewall. If you didn't want to spend the extra few $ on making sure your code is up-to-date then you have different issues and it's not your customers. Lastly Patrick please contact supp...@declude.com having looked at your host record it does not look like you are receiving any AV updates - it could be that your firewall is blocking the AV updates, our support can work with you to fix that. LOL again. Don't need to. I don't use AVG. I only chimed in because I felt that your responses to the issue was not helpful and somewhat offending the users of your product. Again, if you can't get the job done at current income levels, I suggest you come up with the necessary figure after reviewing your operating costs. You're the one selling a product. As for you wanting to know what I will pay for your product, I will leave you with this answer: As much as I think it is worth. If the product is rock solid and I feel (or believe) that the company is trying to stay up with current technologies and cares about me as a customer, I will pay much more than I would to a company that doesn't project those qualities. Oh, and by the way, I know how to setup a firewall. So, why don't you guys concentrate on your code instead. Thanks, Patrick Thanks David From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Childers Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 9:13 AM To: declude.virus@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Declude Virus inoperable for 13% of th year? How much are we willing to pay? It doesn't matter if it costs $5 or $5000 if the product doesn't work. Especially when you, the developer, doesn't notice the problem for a month and a half - especially when the problem has been reported by end users. Do you not run your own product? Maybe you don't realize this, but your whining customers put a level of trust in your company whether you want it or not. This trust is automatic when you are dealing with A/V products that protect mail systems and their networks. If you lose that trust, the cost won't matter. You won't have enough customers to stay in business anyway. Price you product at whatever you think you need to. The mail admins will either buy it or they won't. Maybe it's time for you to find another person to communicate with the list. You certainly aren't giving your end users that warm and fuzzy feeling. (IMO) Regards, ~Patrick _ From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of David Barker Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 12:14 PM To: declude.virus@declude.com
RE: [Declude.Virus] EXE in a Zip File
Title: Message We block .exe's and zips containing exe's. Check out item #15 (Banning files based on extension) in the Declude Virus Manual at http://www.declude.com/Articles.asp?ID=117. You must be running the "Standard" or "Pro" version of Declude Virus. HTH, ~Patrick From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin ShimwellSent: Friday, June 03, 2005 9:18 AMTo: Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: [Declude.Virus] EXE in a Zip File Good morning Im getting alot of calls from yesterday on customers getting and attached zip. with and exe file X-Virus-Scan-Result: Repaired 5542 [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Subject: Your Email Account is Suspended For Security Reasons WHat do I need to do to stop this? I saw this once time before.Im running declude virus with Fprot as the scanner.
RE: [Declude.Virus] EXE in a Zip File
Title: Message
From the 4th paragraph of section 15 (of the link I
posted):
"If you wish the banned file
extensions to apply to files with .ZIP files, you can add a line "BANZIPEXTS ON"
to your \{MAILSERVER}\Declude\virus.cfg file. For example, if you have a
line "BANEXT EXE" and "BANZIPEXTS ON", then .EXE files within .ZIP files will be
blocked. You can also use BANEZIPEXTS ON to do the same thing, but only applying
to encrypted .ZIP files."
~Patrick
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin
ShimwellSent: Friday, June 03, 2005 11:31 AMTo:
Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.Virus] EXE in a Zip
File
I
also block exe,
But
how do you do that for exe contained in zips?
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-Original Message-From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Patrick ChildersSent: Friday, June 03, 2005
11:07 AMTo: Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: RE:
[Declude.Virus] EXE in a Zip File
We block .exe's and zips containing exe's. Check
out item #15 (Banning files
based on extension) in the Declude Virus Manual at http://www.declude.com/Articles.asp?ID=117.
You must be running the "Standard" or "Pro" version of Declude
Virus.
HTH,
~Patrick
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin
ShimwellSent: Friday, June 03, 2005 9:18 AMTo:
Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: [Declude.Virus] EXE in a Zip
File
Good
morning
Im getting
alot of calls from yesterday on customers getting and attached zip. with
and exe file
X-Virus-Scan-Result: Repaired 5542 [EMAIL PROTECTED].
Subject: Your
Email Account is Suspended For Security Reasons
WHat do I need
to do to stop this?
I saw this
once time before.Im running declude virus with Fprot as the
scanner.
RE: [Declude.Virus] .EML file syntax
Title: Message You could add a comma and then another address on the TO: line. This is what I do for my BANnotify message. FROM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TO: %ALLRECIP%, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUBJECT: blah blah blah HTH, Patrick From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran JovanovicSent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 8:56 AMTo: Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.Virus] .EML file syntax Yes this is what I want FROM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TO: %ALLRECIP% CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUBJECT: blah blah blah I tried to add a CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] after the TO: line but it does not work in 2.0.6.6 This should be something that Declude should be able to address. I will step away from asking for a BC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] if it is too difficult to create based on Andys comments below. But in my opinion the BANNotify.EML file produces a brand new e-mail so there should not be, IMO, any reason why the BCC functionality could not be added. Declude: Is this on the feature request list somewhere? Goran Jovanovic The LAN Shoppe From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William StillwellSent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 8:22 AMTo: Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.Virus] .EML file syntax I think your confused, He wants the "Template" files to be CC'd to another recip. ie, now: FROM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TO: %ALLRECIP% SUBJECT: blah blah blah He wants to add CC: , I have tried TO: %ALLRECIP%;[EMAIL PROTECTED] and that doesn't work either, at least in 1.82. - Original Message - From: Andy Schmidt To: Declude.Virus@declude.com Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 12:21 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] .EML file syntax Hi Goran: The "cc:" information is part of the (spoofable) SMTP header - the "bcc:" is not ANYWHERE. The only entitythat knows about the "bcc"s is the sending mail sever, it will simply distribute the message to anyone in the bcc and cc header. To each BCC or CC recipient's server it will look like a message that wasaddressed from one third party to another third party - they will not see the BCC information. While the "cc:" (but not bcc) information can be found in the SMTP header in the receiving server (and thus Declude) there is no way to say whether that header is "true" or spoofed (although there is little motivation to spoof that header, that I can think of). There simply is no way on earth for anythingbeyond the sending mail server to do anything with BCCs since the information simply is omitted and thus not available. Therefore, there is no reason to believe that it will (or could) ever be added to a future DEclude version. Best RegardsAndy SchmidtPhone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)Fax: +1 201 934-9206 -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran JovanovicSent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 09:27 PMTo: Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: [Declude.Virus] .EML file syntax Hi, I know that in an .EML file you can have a TO: %ALLRECIPS% (or whoever you want) but can you also put in a CC or better yet a BCC? I have not found anything in the 2.0.6 manual. Thanx Goran Jovanovic The LAN Shoppe
RE: [Declude.Virus] .EML file syntax
Title: Message I agree... ~Patrick From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran JovanovicSent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 3:11 PMTo: Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.Virus] .EML file syntax Yes that is what I have resorted to but it would have been nice to be able to put it as a BCC so that the recipients do not know that it is monitored. Declude Support has told me that this feature is now on the which list. Goran Jovanovic The LAN Shoppe
RE: [Declude.Virus] Exploit-ObjectData trojan
Title: Message http://us.mcafee.com/virusInfo/default.asp?id=descriptionvirus_k=100715 HTH, ~Patrick
RE: Re[3]: [Declude.Virus] Missed virus reports
Hello David, BANEZIPEXTS ON Sorry to jump in but just a couple of thoughts. Are you running the Pro version of Declude? I don't think BANEZIPEXTS works on the Standard version. Secondly, I believe, in special circumstances, some admins configure Declude Junkmail to run before Declude AV. I think this configuration could cause this behavior. ~Patrick --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude/McAfee] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.Virus.The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
[Declude.Virus] W32/Netsky.c@MM - new
There's a new variant out. http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_101048.htm ~Patrick --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude/McAfee] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.Virus.The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.Virus] So Big E detection
I have two scanners running, McAfee and F-Prot. On the McAfee side, I believe I'm running the 4.2.60 engine and the 4273 DAT file, but I'm not at the shop where I can triple check. F-Prot is catching these So-Big-E [name munged to protect the guilty] viruses like a champion, but the McAfee side hasn't detected a single one. Before I panic [panic requires a drive in at midnight that I'm not up for tonight], have any other McAfee users noticed anything dysfunctional about So Big E detection? I use Mcafee with the 4.2.60 engine/4273 DAT, (was using 4.1.60 yesterday) and both engines were/are catching So Big E. I think you can avoid the midnight drive and have a drink instead. :-) ~Patrick --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude/McAfee] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.Virus.The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
[Declude.Virus] Stopping bounce messages for MIME segment in MIME Preamble vulnerability
Good Morning All, For the last couple of days, Declude has been catching many Outlook 'MIME segment in MIME Preamble' Vulnerability messages. They have all been SPAM. I don't want to send any bounce messages (for this vulnerability) to my users. Is this OK? SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS Outlook 'MIME segment in MIME Preamble' Vulnerability Would the blank spaces in the virus name cause a problem? -Patrick --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude/McAfee] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.Virus.The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.Virus] E-card email
John, Please excuse my ignorance, but what does the backslash variable do to the filter? -Patrick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus-owner;declude.com]On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 12:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] E-card email I think you also need to include: f r i e n d g r e e t i n g s \ . c o m f r i e n d - g r e e t i n g s \ . c o m Again, without the spaces. John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA IT Manager, Network Engineer RelianceSoft, Inc. Fullerton, CA 92835 www.reliancesoft.com --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.Virus.The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude/McAfee] --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude/McAfee] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.Virus.The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.Virus] E-card email
That is not a variable. Some of the messages had that as part of the address. Again, that is without the spaces. (Which are there in this posting so it does not get caught by everyone's filters and rules.) Thank You John, -Patrick --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude/McAfee] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.Virus.The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.Virus] Braid virus
I have caught only two, and that was late yesterday. I am using McAfee. It identified it as W32/Braid@MM -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus-owner;declude.com]On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 9:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Braid virus I saw 4 on the Tuesday and none since. John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA IT Manager, Network Engineer RelianceSoft, Inc. Fullerton, CA 92835 www.reliancesoft.com --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.Virus.The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude/McAfee] --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude/McAfee] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.Virus.The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
