RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?

2005-01-29 Thread Goran Jovanovic
Hi Markus,

> Back to the topic: If someone want I can publish the script-part who
moves
> the D file back to the spool folder and runs smtp32.exe with the
> associated
> Q-file so that it will be delivered immediatly.

If you were to send me the part or publish it somewhere I would take a
crack at integrating into the ASP script. I used to program so I hope I
can figure it out.

In any case thank you for the REQUEUE.ASP script that you did many moons
ago.

 
 
 
 Goran Jovanovic
 The LAN Shoppe

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RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?

2005-01-29 Thread Markus Gufler

> My log files go to a separate directory (partition if 
> available) and are zipped either weekly or monthly depending 
> on size and when there are enough they get burned to CD then deleted.

As we're talking about partitions, spool folders and
moving/deleting/archiving files. I've noted that setting up the spool folder
as a separate NTFS-partition attached as a subfolder to the imail partition
works but sometime there are some strange error messages (cant delete
message, or the message is deleted but still showing up in the file
explorer) Following a MS KB article this is a known issue. Stop. :-/

Markus

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RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?

2005-01-29 Thread Markus Gufler

> I am not the authour of the ASP file it was posted previously 
> and I just adjusted it for my purposes.

Hmmm seeing the source code it looks like I've typed this some years ago.
(please use it whoever want/need it)

However here are some drawbacks:
1.) Keep in mind that a message having multiple recipients will be requeued
for EVERY recipient if ONE recipient of your notification click on the asp
link.
2.) Try to set up your notifications as few as possible. Customers receiving
500 notifications per day are not very happy  ;-)
3.) A by this script requeued message will not be delivered immediatly. The
scripts moves back both Q and D file to the spool folder and Imail will
deliver it at the next queue run. So it depends on your own queue run timer
settings how long it will take to deliver the message to the recipients
mailbox.

At the moment I'm working on a more complex asp script that - in conjunction
to a MSSQL database and Pete McNeils MDLP - sends out notifications to
recipients who has recieved legit messages and who also have recieved
messages in a weightrange we usually review on our server (spamreview).

The asp script asks for e password the first time so that any further access
to the users review box is protected. In the review box there is a list of
all messages hold on the server with a weight of 100 up to 150% of the hold
weight (mailfrom and subject). The user can click on a message to requeue it
or simply click at the bottom of a list to clean up the review box and so
declare all messages as spam.

The script at the moment is working but not 100% ready as I have to
implement some additional functions. For example the reviewing user should
have the possibility to click on a message to see the first x kB of text
(eventualy decoded and without any html tags -> pure text) As it is an
asp-script a component reading the D-files content and returning a decoded
and tag-cleaned text content would be an excellent solution. We're working
on this idea, but if someone has a bether idea or can contribute something I
would be very happy.

Back to the topic: If someone want I can publish the script-part who moves
the D file back to the spool folder and runs smtp32.exe with the associated
Q-file so that it will be delivered immediatly.

Markus

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RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?

2005-01-28 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
My log files go to a separate directory (partition if available) and are
zipped either weekly or monthly depending on size and when there are enough
they get burned to CD then deleted.

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You


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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic
> Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 2:24 PM
> To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
> Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?
> 
> Darin,
> 
> What do you do with the old log files? Do you put them on another
> machine for processing/analysis/archiving?
> 
> If you are archiving how long do you keep the data?
> 
> Thanx
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  Goran Jovanovic
>  The LAN Shoppe
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus-
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox
> > Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 5:15 PM
> > To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
> > Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?
> >
> > Notices only go out for banned files.  We include a statement that the
> > email
> > will be available to be requeued for x number of days...so automatic
> > processes clean it up if it's unclaimed.
> >
> > Regarding the space problem, are you moving logs off to another
> partition
> > on
> > a nightly basis?  Between that, automatic cleanup, and zipping old
> logs
> > ours
> > stays pretty clean.
> >
> > Darin.
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Andy Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 5:05 PM
> > Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?
> >
> >
> > Hi Goran:
> >
> > Oh, I've been thinking about just that.  However does that mean you
> hold
> > all
> > virus files?
> >
> > I don't think I could afford the additional disk space (the spool file
> is
> > already too big as it is.)
> >
> > Best Regards
> > Andy
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic
> > Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 12:48 PM
> > To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
> > Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?
> >
> >
> > Andy,
> >
> > Someone posted on this list a while ago a small ASP page that I am
> using
> > to
> > requeue a banned file. I send out a bannotify.eml what has the link
> back
> > to
> > the server with the appropriate file name. The user says I really
> really
> > want this file and clicks on the link. It gets requeued automatically
> into
> > the spool directory and it is not scanned/banned again and the user
> gets
> > it
> > within 30 minutes.
> >
> > I remember that there was some discussion on the list a while ago
> about
> > having the users authenticate and fill in a form etc. I decided not to
> > bother with that.
> >
> > I can send you my bannotify.eml and the asp file if you wish. Let me
> know
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  Goran Jovanovic
> >  The LAN Shoppe
> >
> >
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus-
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt
> > > Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 6:27 PM
> > > To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
> > > Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?
> > >
> > > >> 1.82 will treat encrypted .RAR files the same as encrypted .ZIP
> > files,
> > > and will block banned file extensions in .RAR files the same way as
> it
> > > blocks banned file extensions in .ZIP files. <<
> > >
> > > Beautiful!
> > >
> > > Now we just need McAfee to scan inside RAR files 
> > >
> > > (Globally banning zipped .EXE files is not an option for me - I
> gotta
> > give
> > > those customers SOME practical way to send/receive "restricted" file
> > > types.)
> > >
> > > Best Regards
> > > Andy
> > >
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Re: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?

2005-01-28 Thread Darin Cox
Yeah...we had to do it previously due to log storage.  It was a good thing
we did it when there was still plenty of room as our logs doubled in size
last November from a sudden increase in spam and dictionary attacks.

Over a span of two days we went from 80% to 95% spam for about three weeks
before it settled back down to around 90% spam...and stayed there.

Darin.


- Original Message - 
From: "Andy Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 5:28 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?


I may have to start doing that.  I used to be able to keep 30 days of logs -
but volume, dictionary attacks and SPAM volume are making it increasingly
difficult.

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

H&M Systems Software, Inc.
600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206

http://www.HM-Software.com/


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 05:15 PM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?


Notices only go out for banned files.  We include a statement that the email
will be available to be requeued for x number of days...so automatic
processes clean it up if it's unclaimed.

Regarding the space problem, are you moving logs off to another partition on
a nightly basis?  Between that, automatic cleanup, and zipping old logs ours
stays pretty clean.

Darin.


- Original Message - 
From: "Andy Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 5:05 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?


Hi Goran:

Oh, I've been thinking about just that.  However does that mean you hold all
virus files?

I don't think I could afford the additional disk space (the spool file is
already too big as it is.)

Best Regards
Andy

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 12:48 PM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?


Andy,

Someone posted on this list a while ago a small ASP page that I am using to
requeue a banned file. I send out a bannotify.eml what has the link back to
the server with the appropriate file name. The user says I really really
want this file and clicks on the link. It gets requeued automatically into
the spool directory and it is not scanned/banned again and the user gets it
within 30 minutes.

I remember that there was some discussion on the list a while ago about
having the users authenticate and fill in a form etc. I decided not to
bother with that.

I can send you my bannotify.eml and the asp file if you wish. Let me know




 Goran Jovanovic
 The LAN Shoppe



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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt
> Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 6:27 PM
> To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
> Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?
>
> >> 1.82 will treat encrypted .RAR files the same as encrypted .ZIP
files,
> and will block banned file extensions in .RAR files the same way as it
> blocks banned file extensions in .ZIP files. <<
>
> Beautiful!
>
> Now we just need McAfee to scan inside RAR files 
>
> (Globally banning zipped .EXE files is not an option for me - I gotta
give
> those customers SOME practical way to send/receive "restricted" file
> types.)
>
> Best Regards
> Andy
>
>
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Re: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?

2005-01-28 Thread Darin Cox
Hi Goran,

We move them to another partition nightly, run any desired monthly reports
on the 1st, zip them up on the 5th (to give time to review logs for recent
days), and store for 6 months in zip format on another partition.  We have
plenty of disk space, so local storage hasn't been a problem yet.

Our backup processes are a fairly complete
disk-to-disk/production-machine-to-"warm"-spare, so the logs are available
there as well.

Darin.


- Original Message - 
From: "Goran Jovanovic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 5:24 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?


Darin,

What do you do with the old log files? Do you put them on another
machine for processing/analysis/archiving?

If you are archiving how long do you keep the data?

Thanx




 Goran Jovanovic
 The LAN Shoppe



> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox
> Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 5:15 PM
> To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
> Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?
>
> Notices only go out for banned files.  We include a statement that the
> email
> will be available to be requeued for x number of days...so automatic
> processes clean it up if it's unclaimed.
>
> Regarding the space problem, are you moving logs off to another
partition
> on
> a nightly basis?  Between that, automatic cleanup, and zipping old
logs
> ours
> stays pretty clean.
>
> Darin.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Andy Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 5:05 PM
> Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?
>
>
> Hi Goran:
>
> Oh, I've been thinking about just that.  However does that mean you
hold
> all
> virus files?
>
> I don't think I could afford the additional disk space (the spool file
is
> already too big as it is.)
>
> Best Regards
> Andy
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic
> Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 12:48 PM
> To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
> Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?
>
>
> Andy,
>
> Someone posted on this list a while ago a small ASP page that I am
using
> to
> requeue a banned file. I send out a bannotify.eml what has the link
back
> to
> the server with the appropriate file name. The user says I really
really
> want this file and clicks on the link. It gets requeued automatically
into
> the spool directory and it is not scanned/banned again and the user
gets
> it
> within 30 minutes.
>
> I remember that there was some discussion on the list a while ago
about
> having the users authenticate and fill in a form etc. I decided not to
> bother with that.
>
> I can send you my bannotify.eml and the asp file if you wish. Let me
know
>
>
>
>
>      Goran Jovanovic
>  The LAN Shoppe
>
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus-
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt
> > Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 6:27 PM
> > To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
> > Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?
> >
> > >> 1.82 will treat encrypted .RAR files the same as encrypted .ZIP
> files,
> > and will block banned file extensions in .RAR files the same way as
it
> > blocks banned file extensions in .ZIP files. <<
> >
> > Beautiful!
> >
> > Now we just need McAfee to scan inside RAR files 
> >
> > (Globally banning zipped .EXE files is not an option for me - I
gotta
> give
> > those customers SOME practical way to send/receive "restricted" file
> > types.)
> >
> > Best Regards
> > Andy
> >
> >
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RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?

2005-01-28 Thread Andy Schmidt
I may have to start doing that.  I used to be able to keep 30 days of logs -
but volume, dictionary attacks and SPAM volume are making it increasingly
difficult.

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

H&M Systems Software, Inc.
600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206

http://www.HM-Software.com/


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 05:15 PM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?


Notices only go out for banned files.  We include a statement that the email
will be available to be requeued for x number of days...so automatic
processes clean it up if it's unclaimed.

Regarding the space problem, are you moving logs off to another partition on
a nightly basis?  Between that, automatic cleanup, and zipping old logs ours
stays pretty clean.

Darin.


- Original Message - 
From: "Andy Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 5:05 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?


Hi Goran:

Oh, I've been thinking about just that.  However does that mean you hold all
virus files?

I don't think I could afford the additional disk space (the spool file is
already too big as it is.)

Best Regards
Andy

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 12:48 PM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?


Andy,

Someone posted on this list a while ago a small ASP page that I am using to
requeue a banned file. I send out a bannotify.eml what has the link back to
the server with the appropriate file name. The user says I really really
want this file and clicks on the link. It gets requeued automatically into
the spool directory and it is not scanned/banned again and the user gets it
within 30 minutes.

I remember that there was some discussion on the list a while ago about
having the users authenticate and fill in a form etc. I decided not to
bother with that.

I can send you my bannotify.eml and the asp file if you wish. Let me know




 Goran Jovanovic
 The LAN Shoppe



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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus- 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt
> Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 6:27 PM
> To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
> Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?
>
> >> 1.82 will treat encrypted .RAR files the same as encrypted .ZIP
files,
> and will block banned file extensions in .RAR files the same way as it 
> blocks banned file extensions in .ZIP files. <<
>
> Beautiful!
>
> Now we just need McAfee to scan inside RAR files 
>
> (Globally banning zipped .EXE files is not an option for me - I gotta
give
> those customers SOME practical way to send/receive "restricted" file
> types.)
>
> Best Regards
> Andy
>
>
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RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?

2005-01-28 Thread Goran Jovanovic
Darin,

What do you do with the old log files? Do you put them on another
machine for processing/analysis/archiving?

If you are archiving how long do you keep the data?

Thanx

 
 
 
 Goran Jovanovic
 The LAN Shoppe

 

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox
> Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 5:15 PM
> To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
> Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?
> 
> Notices only go out for banned files.  We include a statement that the
> email
> will be available to be requeued for x number of days...so automatic
> processes clean it up if it's unclaimed.
> 
> Regarding the space problem, are you moving logs off to another
partition
> on
> a nightly basis?  Between that, automatic cleanup, and zipping old
logs
> ours
> stays pretty clean.
> 
> Darin.
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Andy Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 5:05 PM
> Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?
> 
> 
> Hi Goran:
> 
> Oh, I've been thinking about just that.  However does that mean you
hold
> all
> virus files?
> 
> I don't think I could afford the additional disk space (the spool file
is
> already too big as it is.)
> 
> Best Regards
> Andy
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic
> Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 12:48 PM
> To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
> Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?
> 
> 
> Andy,
> 
> Someone posted on this list a while ago a small ASP page that I am
using
> to
> requeue a banned file. I send out a bannotify.eml what has the link
back
> to
> the server with the appropriate file name. The user says I really
really
> want this file and clicks on the link. It gets requeued automatically
into
> the spool directory and it is not scanned/banned again and the user
gets
> it
> within 30 minutes.
> 
> I remember that there was some discussion on the list a while ago
about
> having the users authenticate and fill in a form etc. I decided not to
> bother with that.
> 
> I can send you my bannotify.eml and the asp file if you wish. Let me
know
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  Goran Jovanovic
>  The LAN Shoppe
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus-
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt
> > Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 6:27 PM
> > To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
> > Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?
> >
> > >> 1.82 will treat encrypted .RAR files the same as encrypted .ZIP
> files,
> > and will block banned file extensions in .RAR files the same way as
it
> > blocks banned file extensions in .ZIP files. <<
> >
> > Beautiful!
> >
> > Now we just need McAfee to scan inside RAR files 
> >
> > (Globally banning zipped .EXE files is not an option for me - I
gotta
> give
> > those customers SOME practical way to send/receive "restricted" file
> > types.)
> >
> > Best Regards
> > Andy
> >
> >
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RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?

2005-01-28 Thread Goran Jovanovic
Hi Andy,

Yes I keep all virus files

VIRDIR  spool\virus

But I have a process that runs every night and cleans out the 6th day of
files. That way I only hold 5 days of files. Right now in my spool\virus
directory I have 2818 files which is 1409 mail messages. Total space of
27.7 MB.

Of course your mail system is MUCH bigger than mine if memory serves me
correctly.

 
 
 
 Goran Jovanovic
 The LAN Shoppe

 

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt
> Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 5:05 PM
> To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
> Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?
> 
> Hi Goran:
> 
> Oh, I've been thinking about just that.  However does that mean you
hold
> all
> virus files?
> 
> I don't think I could afford the additional disk space (the spool file
is
> already too big as it is.)
> 
> Best Regards
> Andy
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic
> Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 12:48 PM
> To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
> Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?
> 
> 
> Andy,
> 
> Someone posted on this list a while ago a small ASP page that I am
using
> to
> requeue a banned file. I send out a bannotify.eml what has the link
back
> to
> the server with the appropriate file name. The user says I really
really
> want this file and clicks on the link. It gets requeued automatically
into
> the spool directory and it is not scanned/banned again and the user
gets
> it
> within 30 minutes.
> 
> I remember that there was some discussion on the list a while ago
about
> having the users authenticate and fill in a form etc. I decided not to
> bother with that.
> 
> I can send you my bannotify.eml and the asp file if you wish. Let me
know
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  Goran Jovanovic
>  The LAN Shoppe
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus-
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt
> > Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 6:27 PM
> > To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
> > Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?
> >
> > >> 1.82 will treat encrypted .RAR files the same as encrypted .ZIP
> files,
> > and will block banned file extensions in .RAR files the same way as
it
> > blocks banned file extensions in .ZIP files. <<
> >
> > Beautiful!
> >
> > Now we just need McAfee to scan inside RAR files 
> >
> > (Globally banning zipped .EXE files is not an option for me - I
gotta
> give
> > those customers SOME practical way to send/receive "restricted" file
> > types.)
> >
> > Best Regards
> > Andy
> >
> >
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Re: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?

2005-01-28 Thread William Stillwell
I would be VERY interested in this "ASP" page.. Any Ideas
where I can find it ?
- Original Message - 
From: "Goran Jovanovic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 12:48 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?

Andy,
Someone posted on this list a while ago a small ASP page that I am using
to requeue a banned file. I send out a bannotify.eml what has the link
back to the server with the appropriate file name. The user says I
really really want this file and clicks on the link. It gets requeued
automatically into the spool directory and it is not scanned/banned
again and the user gets it within 30 minutes.
I remember that there was some discussion on the list a while ago about
having the users authenticate and fill in a form etc. I decided not to
bother with that.
I can send you my bannotify.eml and the asp file if you wish. Let me
know

Goran Jovanovic
The LAN Shoppe

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 6:27 PM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?
>> 1.82 will treat encrypted .RAR files the same as encrypted .ZIP
files,
and will block banned file extensions in .RAR files the same way as it
blocks banned file extensions in .ZIP files. <<
Beautiful!
Now we just need McAfee to scan inside RAR files 
(Globally banning zipped .EXE files is not an option for me - I gotta
give
those customers SOME practical way to send/receive "restricted" file
types.)
Best Regards
Andy
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Re: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?

2005-01-28 Thread Darin Cox
Notices only go out for banned files.  We include a statement that the email
will be available to be requeued for x number of days...so automatic
processes clean it up if it's unclaimed.

Regarding the space problem, are you moving logs off to another partition on
a nightly basis?  Between that, automatic cleanup, and zipping old logs ours
stays pretty clean.

Darin.


- Original Message - 
From: "Andy Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 5:05 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?


Hi Goran:

Oh, I've been thinking about just that.  However does that mean you hold all
virus files?

I don't think I could afford the additional disk space (the spool file is
already too big as it is.)

Best Regards
Andy

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 12:48 PM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?


Andy,

Someone posted on this list a while ago a small ASP page that I am using to
requeue a banned file. I send out a bannotify.eml what has the link back to
the server with the appropriate file name. The user says I really really
want this file and clicks on the link. It gets requeued automatically into
the spool directory and it is not scanned/banned again and the user gets it
within 30 minutes.

I remember that there was some discussion on the list a while ago about
having the users authenticate and fill in a form etc. I decided not to
bother with that.

I can send you my bannotify.eml and the asp file if you wish. Let me know




 Goran Jovanovic
 The LAN Shoppe



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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt
> Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 6:27 PM
> To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
> Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?
>
> >> 1.82 will treat encrypted .RAR files the same as encrypted .ZIP
files,
> and will block banned file extensions in .RAR files the same way as it
> blocks banned file extensions in .ZIP files. <<
>
> Beautiful!
>
> Now we just need McAfee to scan inside RAR files 
>
> (Globally banning zipped .EXE files is not an option for me - I gotta
give
> those customers SOME practical way to send/receive "restricted" file
> types.)
>
> Best Regards
> Andy
>
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RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?

2005-01-28 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi Goran:

Oh, I've been thinking about just that.  However does that mean you hold all
virus files?  

I don't think I could afford the additional disk space (the spool file is
already too big as it is.)

Best Regards
Andy 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 12:48 PM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?


Andy,

Someone posted on this list a while ago a small ASP page that I am using to
requeue a banned file. I send out a bannotify.eml what has the link back to
the server with the appropriate file name. The user says I really really
want this file and clicks on the link. It gets requeued automatically into
the spool directory and it is not scanned/banned again and the user gets it
within 30 minutes.

I remember that there was some discussion on the list a while ago about
having the users authenticate and fill in a form etc. I decided not to
bother with that. 

I can send you my bannotify.eml and the asp file if you wish. Let me know

 
 
 
 Goran Jovanovic
 The LAN Shoppe

 

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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus- 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt
> Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 6:27 PM
> To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
> Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?
> 
> >> 1.82 will treat encrypted .RAR files the same as encrypted .ZIP
files,
> and will block banned file extensions in .RAR files the same way as it 
> blocks banned file extensions in .ZIP files. <<
> 
> Beautiful!
> 
> Now we just need McAfee to scan inside RAR files 
> 
> (Globally banning zipped .EXE files is not an option for me - I gotta
give
> those customers SOME practical way to send/receive "restricted" file
> types.)
> 
> Best Regards
> Andy
> 
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RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?

2005-01-28 Thread Goran Jovanovic
Andy,

Someone posted on this list a while ago a small ASP page that I am using
to requeue a banned file. I send out a bannotify.eml what has the link
back to the server with the appropriate file name. The user says I
really really want this file and clicks on the link. It gets requeued
automatically into the spool directory and it is not scanned/banned
again and the user gets it within 30 minutes.

I remember that there was some discussion on the list a while ago about
having the users authenticate and fill in a form etc. I decided not to
bother with that. 

I can send you my bannotify.eml and the asp file if you wish. Let me
know

 
 
 
 Goran Jovanovic
 The LAN Shoppe

 

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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt
> Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 6:27 PM
> To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
> Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?
> 
> >> 1.82 will treat encrypted .RAR files the same as encrypted .ZIP
files,
> and will block banned file extensions in .RAR files the same way as it
> blocks banned file extensions in .ZIP files. <<
> 
> Beautiful!
> 
> Now we just need McAfee to scan inside RAR files 
> 
> (Globally banning zipped .EXE files is not an option for me - I gotta
give
> those customers SOME practical way to send/receive "restricted" file
> types.)
> 
> Best Regards
> Andy
> 
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Re: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?

2005-01-27 Thread Bill Landry
- Original Message - 
From: "Andy Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Now we just need McAfee to scan inside RAR files 

Indeed!  Even F-Prot scans inside of .rar files:
=
cat report.txt
Virus scanning report  -  27 January 2005 @ 16:46

F-PROT ANTIVIRUS
Program version: 3.16a
Engine version: 3.16.2

VIRUS SIGNATURE FILES
SIGN.DEF created 27 January 2005
SIGN2.DEF created 27 January 2005
MACRO.DEF created 27 January 2005

Search: MsWindowsUpdate.rar
Action: Report only
Files: "Dumb" scan of all files
Switches: /ARCHIVE /PACKED /SERVER /REPORT=report.txt
Memory was not scanned.
Hard disk boot sectors were not scanned.

F:\Virus-Test\MsWindowsUpdate.rar->MsWindowsUpdate.exe  is a dropper for
W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?

2005-01-27 Thread Andy Schmidt
>> 1.82 will treat encrypted .RAR files the same as encrypted .ZIP files,
and will block banned file extensions in .RAR files the same way as it
blocks banned file extensions in .ZIP files. <<

Beautiful! 

Now we just need McAfee to scan inside RAR files 

(Globally banning zipped .EXE files is not an option for me - I gotta give
those customers SOME practical way to send/receive "restricted" file types.)

Best Regards
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RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?

2005-01-27 Thread R. Scott Perry

In fact, I wonder if Declude 2.1 could use those libraries to "unrar" files
to look inside RAR archives?
How about 1.82?  :)
1.82 will treat encrypted .RAR files the same as encrypted .ZIP files, and 
will block banned file extensions in .RAR files the same way as it blocks 
banned file extensions in .ZIP files.

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RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?

2005-01-27 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hm,

http://www.rarreg.com/licence.php

"No person or company may distribute separate parts of the package 
==> with the exception of the UnRAR components <==, 
without written permission of the copyright owner."

So - it looks as if it's an open license for the UnRAR components - and only
the WinRAR/RAR application is restricted. 

Best Regards
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RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?

2005-01-27 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hm,

>> It isn't gonna happen, unless rarsoft sells to winzip. <<

I'm not sure if this it legit:
http://www.rarlab.com/rar_add.htm

But it appears that "unrar" source code, DLLs etc are readily available to
software developers?

(Even if it was not, Winzip already has command line "links" for some of the
older file types, I see no licensing problem if they wanted to support "rar"
on that level.)

In fact, I wonder if Declude 2.1 could use those libraries to "unrar" files
to look inside RAR archives?

Best Regards
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