Yep. Got the HTML JavaScript. Need more CSS knowledge. RoR still a serious
consideration but what about even 3rd party web VCL packs like TMS.
Movie about to start. X-Men, guess there's geek still in me somewhere.
Steve
On 3/06/2011, at 5:48 PM, Alister Christie alis...@salespartner.co.nz
Jolyon == Jolyon Smith jsm...@deltics.co.nz writes:
Jolyon but in the end got fed up with wrestling with HTML and CSS
Jolyon - working with those technologies is like stepping back in
Jolyon time in terms to tools and debugging etc,
Really I would say that the available tools
I guess Jolon is still using MSIE, right? .. The developer tools that are
built into Google Chrome browser for example are quite good for debugging
HTML/CSS(and even JavaScript). Just right click on the elements whose markup
you want to see and say inspect and it will show you all the code and css
We have moved some of our stuff to Java, and are quite happy so far.
In terms of rapid development (in the Java world), there are things like Spring
Roo and Seam Forge, the latter being the newest and least documented...
I have had a little look, but nothing serious so can't really comment that
No, I use Chrome+ (not Google Chrome, but the proper one).
The tools I was referring to were the design and coding tools which are
like going back 20 years in terms of development practices, cos the only way
to know if your code works is to run it, and if it doesn't work you
can't step thru your
Jolyon == Jolyon Smith jsm...@deltics.co.nz writes:
Jolyon Inspect Element is good for seeing what HTML you or your
Jolyon framework has spat out, but it doesn't help you spit out
Jolyon the right HTML in the first place.
I think you're probably using tools like:
print phello/p;
I am an outside observer of Web development as I don't personally do it
either, but interested to find the best practice tools to pick up, as its
such a promising area for the future. I guess like a lot of Delphi
programmers, if we are going to pick up web development (and seems to be the
Can anybody tell how good 'Delphi For PHP' is?
John
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From: delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-
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Subject: [DUG] Web