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: delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] On
Behalf Of Neven MacEwan
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 12:22 PM
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Subject: Re: [DUG] Web development - PHP or not PHP?
Rohit
I don't subscribe to your view re rubbish programmers, slowness
7:22 AM
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Hi Stefan,
I havent implemented error logs yet.. But Google Analytics is telling me
strange things. Either you encountered a bug or you tried to break it ?
Which :-)
I am interested in knowing what
?
Regards,
Stefan
From: delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] On
Behalf Of Rohit Gupta
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 7:22 AM
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Subject: Re: [DUG] Web development
Hi Stefan,
I havent implemented error logs yet.. But Google
I am surprised no-one has mentioned Python + a framework such as Django.
When I switched to web dev, Python/Django and C#/asp.net mvc were the 2
finalists. I went with C# simply due to the ease of getting developers.
Don't use Delphi, it's entirely the wrong tool.
Sean
07, 2011 9:35 AM
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Subject: Re: [DUG] Web development
I am surprised no-one has mentioned Python + a framework such as Django.
When I switched to web dev, Python/Django and C#/asp.net mvc were the 2
finalists. I went with C# simply due to the ease
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From: John Bird [mailto:johnkb...@paradise.net.nz]
Sent: Tuesday, 7 June 2011 10:00 a.m.
To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
Subject: Re: [DUG] Web development
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_web_application_frameworks
good overview - covers
1.1 Perl
1.2 PHP
1.3
, June 05, 2011 2:07 PM
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Subject: Re: [DUG] Web development
I dont find PHP slow at all.
On 5/06/2011 2:20 p.m., Steve Peacocke wrote:
Paul. A very informative reply thanks. Gary also suggested PHP but I have
always discounted it as slow
for other much more important reasons - speed
isn't the issue.
Stefan
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I have been using PHP because I did not want the server to be tied to MS.
Its also very popular
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I have been using PHP because I did not want the server to be tied to
MS. Its also very popular. I
4 PHP a couple of years ago, but
never got to it (should I?).
John C
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I have been using PHP because I did not want the server to be tied to
MS. Its also very popular. I
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I dont find PHP slow at all.
On 5/06/2011 2:20 p.m., Steve Peacocke wrote:
Paul. A very informative reply thanks. Gary also
Subject: Re: [DUG] Web development
I dont find PHP slow at all.
On 5/06/2011 2:20 p.m., Steve Peacocke wrote:
Paul. A very informative reply thanks. Gary also suggested PHP but I have
always discounted it as slow and cumbersome. However reading through some of
the blurb suggests
[mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] On
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I dont find PHP slow at all.
On 5/06/2011 2:20 p.m., Steve Peacocke wrote:
Paul. A very informative reply thanks. Gary
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I have been using PHP because I did not want the server to be tied
to MS. Its also very popular. I started off
Hi Steve,
Approaching it from the delphi/pascal orientation first...(not meaning
pascal server side--and that is possible as well) ...
You'd find much in Delphi for Php that is very familiar.
It is built on top of an opensource framework VCL for PHP, and
you'd probably appreciate E's familiar
Paul. A very informative reply thanks. Gary also suggested PHP but I have
always discounted it as slow and cumbersome. However reading through some of
the blurb suggests that it may gave come a long way in recent years.
I'm very familiar with HTML and somewhat familiar with small JavaScript
Hi Steve
Have a look at the Symfony framework. It takes a little while to get
familiar with, but worth the trouble. It certainly helps you concentrate
on PHP business logic rather than HTML,CSS and javascript.
Cheers,
Todd.
Paul. A very informative reply thanks. Gary also suggested PHP but I
You could of course try Delphi Prism, if you want to be able to do asp
stuff, but in a language similar to Delphi (the Prism syntax is a little
different). It would save you having to learn C#. REM Objects seem to
be doing lots of other cool stuff with the language (a pascal compiler
for
Hope it helps,
On 5 June 2011 14:20, Steve Peacocke st...@peacocke.net wrote:
Paul. A very informative reply thanks. Gary also suggested PHP but I have
always discounted it as slow and cumbersome. However reading through some of
the blurb suggests that it may gave come a long way in recent
I have been using PHP because I did not want the server to be tied to
MS. Its also very popular. I started off with Delphi for PHP. But the
investment in learning it was wasted. The only thing I use it for is
for debugging now. There is no vcl in sight.
Had t learn PHP, javascript, HTML
I dont find PHP slow at all.
On 5/06/2011 2:20 p.m., Steve Peacocke wrote:
Paul. A very informative reply thanks. Gary also suggested PHP but I have
always discounted it as slow and cumbersome. However reading through some of
the blurb suggests that it may gave come a long way in recent
:07 PM
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Subject: Re: [DUG] Web development
I dont find PHP slow at all.
On 5/06/2011 2:20 p.m., Steve Peacocke wrote:
Paul. A very informative reply thanks. Gary also suggested PHP but I have
always discounted it as slow and cumbersome. However
Yep. Got the HTML JavaScript. Need more CSS knowledge. RoR still a serious
consideration but what about even 3rd party web VCL packs like TMS.
Movie about to start. X-Men, guess there's geek still in me somewhere.
Steve
On 3/06/2011, at 5:48 PM, Alister Christie alis...@salespartner.co.nz
Jolyon == Jolyon Smith jsm...@deltics.co.nz writes:
Jolyon but in the end got fed up with wrestling with HTML and CSS
Jolyon - working with those technologies is like stepping back in
Jolyon time in terms to tools and debugging etc,
Really I would say that the available tools
Can anybody tell how good 'Delphi For PHP' is?
John
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boun...@delphi.org.nz] On Behalf Of Steve Peacocke
Sent: Friday, 3 June 2011 4:35 p.m.
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Subject: [DUG] Web
Friday question (or Can of Worms)
Hey guys, I'm looking at getting into serious web development. I used to do
this a number of years ago with standard Delphi 6 at that time.
I have Delphi 7
I've been looking seriously at Ruby on Rails but that would mean learning a
whole new language and
Thanks Berend,
I'm not doing this for a job but working on my on applications at home in my
spare time. I've been programming for many years but not as a job since
about 2005.
My next project will be totally web based and I've been thinking that I'd
need to make the move to RubyonRails at that
the web *GUI*
4. Ditto for an Android/iPhone app if appropriate
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Sent: Friday, 3 June 2011 16:35
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Subject: [DUG] Web
properties of a class or parameters for a
function.
Cheers,
Ross.
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Behalf Of Berend de Boer
Sent: Friday, 3 June 2011 4:52 PM
To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
Subject: Re: [DUG] Web
I think RoR is a fairly good choice and I've played with it a bit and am
impressed - bit of a learning curve from Delphi. Whatever technology
you choose, you'll likely need a good understanding of HTML, CSS and
JavaScript.
I don't think Intraweb is suitable for doing any serious web stuff -
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From: delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] On
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Sent: Friday, 3 June 2011 16:35
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Subject: [DUG] Web development
Friday question (or Can of Worms)
Hey guys, I'm
Is JSP actually deployed yet? Resources on Sun's site seem to be limited to
a specification paper
Sun has a reference implementation on the same site :)
Resources?
www.esperanto.org.nz
JSP FAQ.
JSP book (well, the startings of)
Commercial implementations / development products?
Dev
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of Nic Wise
Sent: Thursday, 1 April 1999 11:49
To: Multiple recipients of list delphi
Subject: Re: [DUG]: web development.
Very true, tho there are other options, which usually limit the
learning
looking at cold fusion 4 at
the moment. Does anyone have any thoughts on this?
Cheers,
Matt.
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From: Siegfried Kirchmair [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Multiple recipients of list delphi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 02, 1999 12:24 AM
Subject: Re: [DUG]: web development.
Hi
Hi Matt,
I can only recomment webhub as I think its absolutely reliable and
performs well.
It does take a bit to get used to it but that pays back. I started
with ISAPI's and every minute spend on it was a waste.
cheers
sigi
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I realise this is probably a trivial question to a lot of people here but as
I have humiliated myself with many before I might as well continue the
trend.
I am looking to create a web site that updates our software in much the same
way that win98 updates itself from microsoft. Our software
Matthew wrote:
My question is how to go about programming dlls that run on the web server
and return web page data. I guess this is pretty fundamental but I'm new
at this.
Any source code snippets or advice on any of this would be appreciated.
The best advice I can give you is to *not*
Very true, tho there are other options, which usually limit the
learning curve:
As usual, this is DEFINATLY IN _MY_ OPINION.
ASP - OK, it kinda limits you to NT, but so does anything using Delphi.
Very easy to use (IMO), quick etc. Can be used on Unix if you get
chilliasp.
JSP -
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