Re: [DUG] PHP setup (was Web development)

[Stefan Mueller]

>>Commercial: http://eco148-88394.innterhost.net/paxscript/

Interesting to see this one mentioned - the newer version of it is
http://www.paxcompiler.com/ by the way and I am a happy user of that script
engine in one of my projects (totally non-web related work). The developer
of it (a Russian called Alexander Baranovsky) is still looking for work as a
software developer in New Zealand, last I've heard - if anyone is interested
and looking for some talent with strong mathematical/computational
background then let me know and I will forward your email to him.

Regards,
Stefan 
 


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From: delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] On
Behalf Of Paul A Norman
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 3:44 PM
To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
Subject: Re: [DUG] PHP setup (was Web development)

CLI php is very powerful and very useful too.
There are even times to shell out to it from Delphi or from other
environments.
There are existing php libraries (e.g. pdf handling etc etc etc ) that are
just 'ready to go', where setting up in Delphi would be reinventing the
wheel all too much.

I work with TeXworks an OpenSource LaTeX editor, and they have provided an
EMCA script language called QtScript (JavaScript for most intents and
purposes), and using a system call you can get php to do almost any thing
you need. One thing I do is get it to handle bibliographies for me,
inserting the needed codes from an MySql table.

You can provide JavaScript to your Delphi applications (as with php as a
Delphi app scripting language using
http://users.telenet.be/ws36637/php4delphi.html) as well - just a few
examples (E also have some newer stuff on this as well I think) ...

Commercial: http://eco148-88394.innterhost.net/paxscript/
OpenSource: "Javascript in Desktop Applications"
http://www.codebot.org/delphi/?doc=9573
(And see http://code.google.com/p/delphichromiumembedded/ for use of the V8
engine),

- then expose needed additional objects and functions and a generic system
call, and the users can script away their own extensions virtually. (I don't
mean in the TWebBrowser component.)

This project  http://phpjs.org/ has even ported much of the appropriatly
useful php routines into JavaScript and that can be used as an evaluated
library in a Delphi application scripting process.
(Most people out there are not going to learn a Pascal Script -- so perhaps
leverage the tremendous background people now have in Js and php for Delphi
application scripting)

Aptana Studio is great.
They did drop php in 2.0 I think, for a while - huge outcry - and it is
fully back in 3.0 - plus plugins as well.

"Aptana web studio is for JavaScript [php] what Delphi is for real code. "
-- from
http://delphimax.wordpress.com/2011/04/02/delphi-for-javascript-a-viable-ide
a-or-wishful-thinking/

Paul

On 7 June 2011 15:00, Gary T. Benner  wrote:
> [Reply]
>
> HI All,
>
> Aptana has it's own development $tudio, but also has free plugins for 
> Eclipse. Both allow debugging for PHP.
>
> PHPclipse also works fine, but you need to find html, css and js plugins.
>
> kr
>
> Gary
>
> At 14:30 on 7/06/2011 you wrote
>
>>Hi Robert
>
>>
>
>>> I have been following the thread with much interest. We use PHP 
>>> becuase
>
>>> it is...
>
>>>
>
>>> 1) platform independent
>
>>> 2) widely supported by ISPs and support
>
>>> 3) Simple, fast and effective
>
>>> 4) Used by other products we support
>
>>>
>
>>>
>
>>> Up until recently we have been making minor modifications to 
>>> existing
>
>>> products OR simple internal systems. We have just use Notepad++ to 
>>> do
>
>>> this work.
>
>>>
>
>>> Now we are about to embark on a major new system (a web service, not 
>>> a
>
>>> web site). What dev platform would people recommend. No one has
>
>>> mentioned Eclipse, Aptana Studio which sounds good but seems aimed 
>>> at
>
>>> Ruby On Rails more than PHP. Does anyone know if it does code
>
>>> completion and debugging of PHP (it says it does for RoR).
>
>>
>
>>+1 for Eclipse
>
>>It provides code completion, jump to implementation (ctrl click) and
>
>>debugging (breakpoints, watches, local variables, call stack etc) in 
>>the
>
>>IDE.
>
>>With plugins for CSS, Javascript, HTML, XML & UML, as well what could 
>>be
>
>>better?
>
>>
>
>>Todd
>
>>
>
>>> Still love Delphi but PHP seems to be the way to go for web dev.
>
>>>
>
>>>
>
>>> Cheers
>
>>> Rob
>
>>> __

Re: [DUG] PHP setup (was Web development)

[Steve Peacocke]

Yea, I have been involved in 2 large development programs (as a manager, not
a programmer) in RoR, both quite fast and successful. Works very well in a
SCRUM development environment.

One person mentioned that RoR is hobbled in that there seems only one way to
do things - that is the very idea behind RoR. By having only one way to do
things, development is consistent and speedy. A lot of assumptions can then
be made by RoR which means it can write your application in a lot of places.
As with all the comments, you still need JavaScript, HTML, CSS and Ajax to
deliver apps, but on the whole both large development projects were very
successfully delivered.

Steve Peacocke


On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 6:39 PM, Vik Vasudev  wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> After going through all the thread related to webdevelopment. I decided to
> give a try on ROR. So far it looks ok to me. Just wondering if anyone has
> used it to develop commercial application.
>
> I heard many  saying ROR is fast and effective. I have no idea of PHP
> though
>
> Just wondering.
>
>
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Re: [DUG] PHP setup (was Web development)

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The whole of both our public & admin sites are done ROR, made the change
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From: delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] On
Behalf Of Vik Vasudev
Sent: Tuesday, 7 June 2011 6:40 p.m.
To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
Subject: Re: [DUG] PHP setup (was Web development)

 

Hi All,

After going through all the thread related to webdevelopment. I decided to
give a try on ROR. So far it looks ok to me. Just wondering if anyone has
used it to develop commercial application. 

I heard many  saying ROR is fast and effective. I have no idea of PHP
though

Just wondering.

Kind regards
Vik



On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Gary T. Benner  wrote:

[Reply] 

HI All, 

Aptana has it's own development $tudio, but also has free plugins for
Eclipse. Both allow debugging for PHP. 

PHPclipse also works fine, but you need to find html, css and js plugins. 

kr 

Gary 

At 14:30 on 7/06/2011 you wrote 

>Hi Robert 

> 

>> I have been following the thread with much interest. We use PHP becuase 

>> it is... 

>> 

>> 1) platform independent 

>> 2) widely supported by ISPs and support 

>> 3) Simple, fast and effective 

>> 4) Used by other products we support 

>> 

>> 

>> Up until recently we have been making minor modifications to existing 

>> products OR simple internal systems. We have just use Notepad++ to do 

>> this work. 

>> 

>> Now we are about to embark on a major new system (a web service, not a 

>> web site). What dev platform would people recommend. No one has 

>> mentioned Eclipse, Aptana Studio which sounds good but seems aimed at 

>> Ruby On Rails more than PHP. Does anyone know if it does code 

>> completion and debugging of PHP (it says it does for RoR). 

> 

>+1 for Eclipse 

>It provides code completion, jump to implementation (ctrl click) and 

>debugging (breakpoints, watches, local variables, call stack etc) in the 

>IDE. 

>With plugins for CSS, Javascript, HTML, XML & UML, as well what could be 

>better? 

> 

>Todd 

> 

>> Still love Delphi but PHP seems to be the way to go for web dev. 

>> 

>> 

>> Cheers 

>> Rob 

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Re: [DUG] PHP setup (was Web development)

[Paul A Norman]

CLI php is very powerful and very useful too.
There are even times to shell out to it from Delphi or from other environments.
There are existing php libraries (e.g. pdf handling etc etc etc ) that
are just 'ready to go', where setting up in Delphi would be
reinventing the wheel all too much.

I work with TeXworks an OpenSource LaTeX editor, and they have
provided an EMCA script language called QtScript (JavaScript for most
intents and purposes), and using a system call you can get php to do
almost any thing you need. One thing I do is get it to handle
bibliographies for me, inserting the needed codes from an MySql table.

You can provide JavaScript to your Delphi applications (as with php as
a Delphi app scripting language using
http://users.telenet.be/ws36637/php4delphi.html) as well - just a few
examples (E also have some newer stuff on this as well I think) ...

Commercial: http://eco148-88394.innterhost.net/paxscript/
OpenSource: "Javascript in Desktop Applications"
http://www.codebot.org/delphi/?doc=9573
(And see http://code.google.com/p/delphichromiumembedded/ for use of
the V8 engine),

- then expose needed additional objects and functions and a generic
system call, and the users can script away their own extensions
virtually. (I don't mean in the TWebBrowser component.)

This project  http://phpjs.org/ has even ported much of the
appropriatly useful php routines into JavaScript and that can be used
as an evaluated library in a Delphi application scripting process.
(Most people out there are not going to learn a Pascal Script -- so
perhaps leverage the tremendous background people now have in Js and
php for Delphi application scripting)

Aptana Studio is great.
They did drop php in 2.0 I think, for a while - huge outcry - and it
is fully back in 3.0 - plus plugins as well.

"Aptana web studio is for JavaScript [php] what Delphi is for real
code. " -- from
http://delphimax.wordpress.com/2011/04/02/delphi-for-javascript-a-viable-idea-or-wishful-thinking/

Paul

On 7 June 2011 15:00, Gary T. Benner  wrote:
> [Reply]
>
> HI All,
>
> Aptana has it's own development $tudio, but also has free plugins for
> Eclipse. Both allow debugging for PHP.
>
> PHPclipse also works fine, but you need to find html, css and js plugins.
>
> kr
>
> Gary
>
> At 14:30 on 7/06/2011 you wrote
>
>>Hi Robert
>
>>
>
>>> I have been following the thread with much interest. We use PHP becuase
>
>>> it is...
>
>>>
>
>>> 1) platform independent
>
>>> 2) widely supported by ISPs and support
>
>>> 3) Simple, fast and effective
>
>>> 4) Used by other products we support
>
>>>
>
>>>
>
>>> Up until recently we have been making minor modifications to existing
>
>>> products OR simple internal systems. We have just use Notepad++ to do
>
>>> this work.
>
>>>
>
>>> Now we are about to embark on a major new system (a web service, not a
>
>>> web site). What dev platform would people recommend. No one has
>
>>> mentioned Eclipse, Aptana Studio which sounds good but seems aimed at
>
>>> Ruby On Rails more than PHP. Does anyone know if it does code
>
>>> completion and debugging of PHP (it says it does for RoR).
>
>>
>
>>+1 for Eclipse
>
>>It provides code completion, jump to implementation (ctrl click) and
>
>>debugging (breakpoints, watches, local variables, call stack etc) in the
>
>>IDE.
>
>>With plugins for CSS, Javascript, HTML, XML & UML, as well what could be
>
>>better?
>
>>
>
>>Todd
>
>>
>
>>> Still love Delphi but PHP seems to be the way to go for web dev.
>
>>>
>
>>>
>
>>> Cheers
>
>>> Rob
>
>>> ___
>
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Re: [DUG] PHP setup (was Web development)

[Vik Vasudev]

Hi All,

After going through all the thread related to webdevelopment. I decided to
give a try on ROR. So far it looks ok to me. Just wondering if anyone has
used it to develop commercial application.

I heard many  saying ROR is fast and effective. I have no idea of PHP
though

Just wondering.

Kind regards
Vik


On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Gary T. Benner  wrote:

>  *[Reply]*
>
> HI All,
>
> Aptana has it's own development $tudio, but also has free plugins for
> Eclipse. Both allow debugging for PHP.
>
> PHPclipse also works fine, but you need to find html, css and js plugins.
>
> kr
>
> Gary
>
> A*t 14:30 on 7/06/2011 you wrote *
>
> >Hi Robert
>
> >
>
> >> I have been following the thread with much interest. We use PHP becuase
>
> >> it is...
>
> >>
>
> >> 1) platform independent
>
> >> 2) widely supported by ISPs and support
>
> >> 3) Simple, fast and effective
>
> >> 4) Used by other products we support
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> Up until recently we have been making minor modifications to existing
>
> >> products OR simple internal systems. We have just use Notepad++ to do
>
> >> this work.
>
> >>
>
> >> Now we are about to embark on a major new system (a web service, not a
>
> >> web site). What dev platform would people recommend. No one has
>
> >> mentioned Eclipse, Aptana Studio which sounds good but seems aimed at
>
> >> Ruby On Rails more than PHP. Does anyone know if it does code
>
> >> completion and debugging of PHP (it says it does for RoR).
>
> >
>
> >+1 for Eclipse
>
> >It provides code completion, jump to implementation (ctrl click) and
>
> >debugging (breakpoints, watches, local variables, call stack etc) in the
>
> >IDE.
>
> >With plugins for CSS, Javascript, HTML, XML & UML, as well what could be
>
> >better?
>
> >
>
> >Todd
>
> >
>
> >> Still love Delphi but PHP seems to be the way to go for web dev.
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> Cheers
>
> >> Rob
>
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Re: [DUG] PHP setup (was Web development)

[Gary T. Benner]

[Reply]

HI All,

Aptana has it's own development $tudio, but also has free plugins for Eclipse. 
Both allow debugging for PHP.

PHPclipse also works fine, but you need to find html,  css and js plugins.

kr

Gary


At 14:30 on 7/06/2011 you wrote 
>Hi Robert
>
>> I have been following the thread with much interest.  We use PHP becuase >> 
>> it is...
>> >> 1) platform independent
>> 2) widely supported by ISPs and support
>> 3) Simple, fast and effective
>> 4) Used by other products we support
>> >> >> Up until recently we have been making minor modifications to existing 
>> >> >> >> products OR simple internal systems.  We have just use Notepad++ to 
>> >> >> do >> this work.
>> >> Now we are about to embark on a major new system (a web service, not a >> 
>> >> web site).  What dev platform would people recommend.  No one has >> 
>> >> mentioned Eclipse, Aptana Studio which sounds good but seems aimed at >> 
>> >> Ruby On Rails more than PHP.  Does anyone know if it does code >> 
>> >> completion and debugging of PHP (it says it does for RoR).
>
>+1 for Eclipse
>It provides code completion, jump to implementation (ctrl click) and
>debugging (breakpoints, watches, local variables, call stack etc) in the
>IDE.
>With plugins for CSS, Javascript, HTML, XML & UML, as well what could be
>better?
>
>Todd
>
>> Still love Delphi but PHP seems to be the way to go for web dev.
>> >> >> Cheers
>> Rob
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Re: [DUG] PHP setup (was Web development)

[Todd]

Hi Robert

> I have been following the thread with much interest.  We use PHP becuase 
> it is...
> 
> 1) platform independent
> 2) widely supported by ISPs and support
> 3) Simple, fast and effective
> 4) Used by other products we support
> 
> 
> Up until recently we have been making minor modifications to existing 
> products OR simple internal systems.  We have just use Notepad++ to do 
> this work.
> 
> Now we are about to embark on a major new system (a web service, not a 
> web site).  What dev platform would people recommend.  No one has 
> mentioned Eclipse, Aptana Studio which sounds good but seems aimed at 
> Ruby On Rails more than PHP.  Does anyone know if it does code 
> completion and debugging of PHP (it says it does for RoR).

+1 for Eclipse
It provides code completion, jump to implementation (ctrl click) and
debugging (breakpoints, watches, local variables, call stack etc) in the
IDE.
With plugins for CSS, Javascript, HTML, XML & UML, as well what could be
better?

Todd

> Still love Delphi but PHP seems to be the way to go for web dev.
> 
> 
> Cheers
> Rob
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[DUG] PHP setup (was Web development)

[Robert Martin]

Hi

I have been following the thread with much interest.  We use PHP becuase 
it is...

1) platform independent
2) widely supported by ISPs and support
3) Simple, fast and effective
4) Used by other products we support


Up until recently we have been making minor modifications to existing 
products OR simple internal systems.  We have just use Notepad++ to do 
this work.

Now we are about to embark on a major new system (a web service, not a 
web site).  What dev platform would people recommend.  No one has 
mentioned Eclipse, Aptana Studio which sounds good but seems aimed at 
Ruby On Rails more than PHP.  Does anyone know if it does code 
completion and debugging of PHP (it says it does for RoR).

Still love Delphi but PHP seems to be the way to go for web dev.


Cheers
Rob
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