RE: [VOTE] Reject tally of logo votes
+1 Reject the tally. -Original Message- From: Kathey Marsden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 March 2005 19:11 To: Derby Discussion Subject: [VOTE] Reject tally of logo votes It seems to me that it would be very sad and bad karma to have our logo under such a cloud of suspicion. So I would like to call a vote to reject this tally. I've heard lots of great ideas on how to resolve this issue either technologically or socially but I think first we need to establish that this tally is incorrect. Then if we agree to reject, ensuing discussions can determine how to best choose a logo. >> Logo 32 = 20 votes >> Logo 35 = 12 votes >> None of the above = 18 votes > > Vote +1 Reject the tally. New method of choosing a logo is determined by the community. -1 Not to reject the tally. Keep the vote tally as is with 32 as the winner. Thanks Kathey This e-mail and any attachment is for authorised use by the intended recipient(s) only. It may contain proprietary material, confidential information and/or be subject to legal privilege. It should not be copied, disclosed to, retained or used by, any other party. If you are not an intended recipient then please promptly delete this e-mail and any attachment and all copies and inform the sender. Thank you.
[RESULTS] Re: [VOTE] Reject tally of logo votes
Kathey Marsden wrote: >It seems to me that it would be very sad and bad karma to have our logo under >such a cloud of suspicion. So I would like to call a vote to reject this >tally. I've heard lots of great ideas on how to resolve this issue either >technologically or socially but I think first we need to establish that this >tally is incorrect. Then if we agree to reject, ensuing discussions can >determine how to best choose a logo. > > > > >>>Logo 32 = 20 votes >>>Logo 35 = 12 votes >>>None of the above = 18 votes >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > >Vote >+1 Reject the tally. New method of choosing a logo is determined by the >community. >-1 Not to reject the tally. Keep the vote tally as is with 32 as the winner. > > >Thanks > >Kathey > > > > > > > > Note: I accidentally started the vote on derby-dev and had to abort. That is the reason for the derby-dev votes. 21 voted +1 (16 to derby-user, 5 to just derby-dev) 1 voted -1 -- +1 votes (an * indicates also voted on derby-dev) -- Jeremy Boynes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Profetiko Email <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Brett Dobbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Roberto micca <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> SML <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jean T. Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Andrew Kachalo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mike Matrigali <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Danesh Irani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Suresh Thalamati <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sunitha Kambhampati <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Jeff Levitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Lance J. Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Jalud Abdulmenan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Susan Cline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Jeffrey Lichtman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Votes submitted to just derby-dev: Jonathan Bruce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Kathey Marsden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Satheesh Bandaram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> myrna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Manjula Kutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- -1 --- Mark W. Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Protested, but didn't vote -- Pier Paolo Ucchino Hotmail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://mail-archives.eu.apache.org/mod_mbox/db-derby-user/200503.mbox/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Reject tally of logo votes
The problem I saw was that people may have been influenced by the questionable votes potentially skewing the result further (for or against). The only fair option is to discard all and try again, lamenting the huge waste of time this caused. My pragmatic side also says that the second place tally was for "None of the above" so we would not reach closure anyway. -- Jeremy Mark W. Davis wrote: I agree with Jeff. I placed a -1 also. The majority should rule. I voted -1 due to the time spent on voting and I think it should be relatively easy to null or disqualify duplicate votes and come up with a majority. Jeremy Boynes wrote: Jeff Levitt wrote: We have one veto on the record. I believe we need an explanation for the veto in order for it to be counted? Veto really applies to technical issues. This vote is really consensus so the -1 is a vote against rather than a veto. -- Jeremy
Re: [VOTE] Reject tally of logo votes
I agree with Jeff. I placed a -1 also. The majority should rule. I voted -1 due to the time spent on voting and I think it should be relatively easy to null or disqualify duplicate votes and come up with a majority. Jeremy Boynes wrote: Jeff Levitt wrote: We have one veto on the record. I believe we need an explanation for the veto in order for it to be counted? Veto really applies to technical issues. This vote is really consensus so the -1 is a vote against rather than a veto. -- Jeremy -- one is what one does Mark W. Davis
Re: [VOTE] Reject tally of logo votes
+1 Reject the tally. Jalud Kathey Marsden wrote: > It seems to me that it would be very sad and bad karma to have our logo under > such a cloud of suspicion. So I would like to call a vote to reject this > tally. I've heard lots of great ideas on how to resolve this issue either > technologically or socially but I think first we need to establish that this > tally is incorrect. Then if we agree to reject, ensuing discussions can > determine how to best choose a logo. > > > >>>Logo 32 = 20 votes >>>Logo 35 = 12 votes >>>None of the above = 18 votes >> >> >> > > > > Vote > +1 Reject the tally. New method of choosing a logo is determined by the > community. > -1 Not to reject the tally. Keep the vote tally as is with 32 as the winner. > > > Thanks > > Kathey > > > > > > >
Re: [VOTE] Reject tally of logo votes
+1 Kathey Marsden wrote: It seems to me that it would be very sad and bad karma to have our logo under such a cloud of suspicion. So I would like to call a vote to reject this tally. I've heard lots of great ideas on how to resolve this issue either technologically or socially but I think first we need to establish that this tally is incorrect. Then if we agree to reject, ensuing discussions can determine how to best choose a logo. Logo 32 = 20 votes Logo 35 = 12 votes None of the above = 18 votes Vote +1 Reject the tally. New method of choosing a logo is determined by the community. -1 Not to reject the tally. Keep the vote tally as is with 32 as the winner. Thanks Kathey
Re: [VOTE] Reject tally of logo votes
+1 Reject the tally. Jalud Kathey Marsden wrote: > Kathey Marsden wrote: > > >>>Vote >>>+1 Reject the tally. New method of choosing a logo is determined by the >>>community. >>>-1 Not to reject the tally. Keep the vote tally as is with 32 as the winner. >>> >>> >>> > > I need to abort this vote here and repost to derby-user. I posted to the > wrong list. > Sorry to all those who already voted. Please vote again with the same > address! on derby-user. > > Thanks > > Kathey > > > >
Re: [VOTE] Reject tally of logo votes
Jeff Levitt wrote: We have one veto on the record. I believe we need an explanation for the veto in order for it to be counted? Veto really applies to technical issues. This vote is really consensus so the -1 is a vote against rather than a veto. -- Jeremy
Re: [VOTE] Reject tally of logo votes
Danesh Irani wrote: I hope people arent voting to reject the proposal just because they didnt like the outcome. To be honest, I'd be content with any of the logos that got more than 2 votes in the first round -- and even some of the ones that got only 2. It's nice to see so much talent in this community. The most important thing to me is that the _derby_community_ choose its logo, including the community lurkers like Darcy. :-) I spoke up yesterday when I posted this below because I lost confidence that it was the community making the choice: The sudden flood of votes for a specific logo yesterday looked kind of odd, especially the one from "noname nolastname", and I'm concerned we might be getting votes from people who joined the list just to cast a vote. -jean
Re: [VOTE] Reject tally of logo votes
+1 Kathey Marsden wrote Vote +1 Reject the tally. New method of choosing a logo is determined by the community. -1 Not to reject the tally. Keep the vote tally as is with 32 as the winner. Thanks Kathey
Re: [VOTE] Reject tally of logo votes
We have one veto on the record. I believe we need an explanation for the veto in order for it to be counted? --- Danesh Irani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > +1 Reject the tally > > I hope people arent voting to reject the proposal > just because they > didnt like the outcome. > > > On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 15:40:41 -0800, Mike Matrigali > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > +1 > > > > Kathey Marsden wrote: > > > > > It seems to me that it would be very sad and bad > karma to have our logo under such a cloud of > suspicion. So I would like to call a vote to > reject this tally. I've heard lots of great ideas > on how to resolve this issue either technologically > or socially but I think first we need to establish > that this tally is incorrect. Then if we agree to > reject, ensuing discussions can determine how to > best choose a logo. > > > > > > > > > > > >>>Logo 32 = 20 votes > > >>>Logo 35 = 12 votes > > >>>None of the above = 18 votes > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Vote > > > +1 Reject the tally. New method of choosing a > logo is determined by the community. > > > -1 Not to reject the tally. Keep the vote tally > as is with 32 as the winner. > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Kathey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: [VOTE] Reject tally of logo votes
+1 Reject the tally I hope people arent voting to reject the proposal just because they didnt like the outcome. On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 15:40:41 -0800, Mike Matrigali <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > +1 > > Kathey Marsden wrote: > > > It seems to me that it would be very sad and bad karma to have our logo > > under such a cloud of suspicion. So I would like to call a vote to reject > > this tally. I've heard lots of great ideas on how to resolve this issue > > either technologically or socially but I think first we need to establish > > that this tally is incorrect. Then if we agree to reject, ensuing > > discussions can determine how to best choose a logo. > > > > > > > >>>Logo 32 = 20 votes > >>>Logo 35 = 12 votes > >>>None of the above = 18 votes > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > Vote > > +1 Reject the tally. New method of choosing a logo is determined by the > > community. > > -1 Not to reject the tally. Keep the vote tally as is with 32 as the winner. > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Kathey > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: [VOTE] Reject tally of logo votes
+1 Kathey Marsden wrote: > It seems to me that it would be very sad and bad karma to have our logo under > such a cloud of suspicion. So I would like to call a vote to reject this > tally. I've heard lots of great ideas on how to resolve this issue either > technologically or socially but I think first we need to establish that this > tally is incorrect. Then if we agree to reject, ensuing discussions can > determine how to best choose a logo. > > > >>>Logo 32 = 20 votes >>>Logo 35 = 12 votes >>>None of the above = 18 votes >> >> >> > > > > Vote > +1 Reject the tally. New method of choosing a logo is determined by the > community. > -1 Not to reject the tally. Keep the vote tally as is with 32 as the winner. > > > Thanks > > Kathey > > > > > >
Re: [VOTE] Reject tally of logo votes
+1 Reject the tallyKathey Marsden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It seems to me that it would be very sad and bad karma to have our logo under such a cloud of suspicion. So I would like to call a vote to reject this tally. I've heard lots of great ideas on how to resolve this issue either technologically or socially but I think first we need to establish that this tally is incorrect. Then if we agree to reject, ensuing discussions can determine how to best choose a logo.>> Logo 32 = 20 votes>> Logo 35 = 12 votes>> None of the above = 18 votes> >Vote +1 Reject the tally. New method of choosing a logo is determined by the community.-1 Not to reject the tally. Keep the vote tally as is with 32 as the winner.ThanksKathey
Re: [VOTE] Reject tally of logo votes
+1 ! I agree - Original Message - From: "Jeffrey Lichtman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Derby Discussion" Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 8:22 PM Subject: Re: [VOTE] Reject tally of logo votes +1 Reject the tally. New method of choosing a logo is determined by the community. -Jeff Lichtman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out Swazoo Koolak's Web Jukebox at http://swazoo.com/
Re: [VOTE] Reject tally of logo votes
-1 Kathey Marsden wrote: It seems to me that it would be very sad and bad karma to have our logo under such a cloud of suspicion. So I would like to call a vote to reject this tally. I've heard lots of great ideas on how to resolve this issue either technologically or socially but I think first we need to establish that this tally is incorrect. Then if we agree to reject, ensuing discussions can determine how to best choose a logo. Logo 32 = 20 votes Logo 35 = 12 votes None of the above = 18 votes Vote +1 Reject the tally. New method of choosing a logo is determined by the community. -1 Not to reject the tally. Keep the vote tally as is with 32 as the winner. Thanks Kathey -- one is what one does Mark W. Davis
Re: [VOTE] Reject tally of logo votes
Jeffrey Lichtman wrote: Just a thought: what will we do if someone stuffs the ballot box on this vote the same way they did on the original vote? http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#management says: "The rules require that a negative vote includes an alternative proposal or a detailed explanation of the reasons for the negative vote." -jean
Re: [VOTE] Reject tally of logo votes
+1 on 24/03/2005 21:10, Kathey Marsden at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > It seems to me that it would be very sad and bad karma to have our logo under > such a cloud of suspicion. So I would like to call a vote to reject this > tally. I've heard lots of great ideas on how to resolve this issue either > technologically or socially but I think first we need to establish that this > tally is incorrect. Then if we agree to reject, ensuing discussions can > determine how to best choose a logo. > > >>> Logo 32 = 20 votes >>> Logo 35 = 12 votes >>> None of the above = 18 votes >> >> > > > Vote > +1 Reject the tally. New method of choosing a logo is determined by the > community. > -1 Not to reject the tally. Keep the vote tally as is with 32 as the winner. > > > Thanks > > Kathey > > > > >
Re: [VOTE] Reject tally of logo votes
+1 Reject the tally. -jean
Re: [VOTE] Reject tally of logo votes
+1 - Original Message - From: "Jeff Levitt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Derby Discussion" Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 8:15 PM Subject: Re: [VOTE] Reject tally of logo votes +1 --- Kathey Marsden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It seems to me that it would be very sad and bad karma to have our logo under such a cloud of suspicion. So I would like to call a vote to reject this tally. I've heard lots of great ideas on how to resolve this issue either technologically or socially but I think first we need to establish that this tally is incorrect. Then if we agree to reject, ensuing discussions can determine how to best choose a logo. >> Logo 32 = 20 votes >> Logo 35 = 12 votes >> None of the above = 18 votes > > Vote +1 Reject the tally. New method of choosing a logo is determined by the community. -1 Not to reject the tally. Keep the vote tally as is with 32 as the winner. Thanks Kathey
Re: [VOTE] Reject tally of logo votes
> +1 Reject the tally.
Re: [VOTE] Reject tally of logo votes
Just a thought: what will we do if someone stuffs the ballot box on this vote the same way they did on the original vote? -Jeff Lichtman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out Swazoo Koolak's Web Jukebox at http://swazoo.com/
Re: [VOTE] Reject tally of logo votes
+1 Reject the tally. New method of choosing a logo is determined by the community. -Jeff Lichtman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out Swazoo Koolak's Web Jukebox at http://swazoo.com/
Re: [VOTE] Reject tally of logo votes
+1 Reject the tally. Kathey Marsden wrote: It seems to me that it would be very sad and bad karma to have our logo under such a cloud of suspicion. So I would like to call a vote to reject this tally. I've heard lots of great ideas on how to resolve this issue either technologically or socially but I think first we need to establish that this tally is incorrect. Then if we agree to reject, ensuing discussions can determine how to best choose a logo. Logo 32 = 20 votes Logo 35 = 12 votes None of the above = 18 votes Vote +1 Reject the tally. New method of choosing a logo is determined by the community. -1 Not to reject the tally. Keep the vote tally as is with 32 as the winner. Thanks Kathey
Re: [VOTE] Reject tally of logo votes
+1 --- Kathey Marsden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It seems to me that it would be very sad and bad > karma to have our logo under such a cloud of > suspicion. So I would like to call a vote to > reject this tally. I've heard lots of great ideas > on how to resolve this issue either technologically > or socially but I think first we need to establish > that this tally is incorrect. Then if we agree to > reject, ensuing discussions can determine how to > best choose a logo. > > > >> Logo 32 = 20 votes > >> Logo 35 = 12 votes > >> None of the above = 18 votes > > > > > > > Vote > +1 Reject the tally. New method of choosing a logo > is determined by the community. > -1 Not to reject the tally. Keep the vote tally as > is with 32 as the winner. > > > Thanks > > Kathey > > > > > >
Re: [VOTE] Reject tally of logo votes
+1 Reject the tally. Kathey Marsden wrote: It seems to me that it would be very sad and bad karma to have our logo under such a cloud of suspicion. So I would like to call a vote to reject this tally. I've heard lots of great ideas on how to resolve this issue either technologically or socially but I think first we need to establish that this tally is incorrect. Then if we agree to reject, ensuing discussions can determine how to best choose a logo. Logo 32 = 20 votes Logo 35 = 12 votes None of the above = 18 votes Vote +1 Reject the tally. New method of choosing a logo is determined by the community. -1 Not to reject the tally. Keep the vote tally as is with 32 as the winner. Thanks Kathey
Re: [VOTE] Reject tally of logo votes
+1 Kathey Marsden wrote: It seems to me that it would be very sad and bad karma to have our logo under such a cloud of suspicion. So I would like to call a vote to reject this tally. I've heard lots of great ideas on how to resolve this issue either technologically or socially but I think first we need to establish that this tally is incorrect. Then if we agree to reject, ensuing discussions can determine how to best choose a logo. Logo 32 = 20 votes Logo 35 = 12 votes None of the above = 18 votes Vote +1 Reject the tally. New method of choosing a logo is determined by the community. -1 Not to reject the tally. Keep the vote tally as is with 32 as the winner. Thanks Kathey
