Re: [libreoffice-design] annnnnd we are back to square one.

2011-11-26 Thread Andrew Pullins
HI If there were some specifications for the roadmap entries that the > design list likes, I would certainly try and implement it. For the > really near term, I remember somebody mentioning that a specification > was in progress for the macros dialog; has this progressed since then? > I would real

Re: [libreoffice-design] annnnnd we are back to square one.

2011-11-26 Thread August Sodora
If there were some specifications for the roadmap entries that the design list likes, I would certainly try and implement it. For the really near term, I remember somebody mentioning that a specification was in progress for the macros dialog; has this progressed since then? I would really like to i

[libreoffice-design] annnnnd we are back to square one.

2011-11-26 Thread Andrew Pullins
Hello Björn > As a personal remark to this thread: > A complete redesign of the interface is not on the agendy of any > LO-developer > (as far as I know). So, please do not waste your or anybody elses time with > creating big pictures. We will get to the point where this is constructive > - > but

Re: Re: [libreoffice-design] Some Feedback on Citrus.

2011-11-26 Thread Björn Balazs
Hi all, we can make any survey and I am more than willing to help (Yes, I am even a psychologist ;) ) BUT: Just as at least Greg and Christoph said, we will not get anywhere concerning the issue of this thread by conducting a survey. Normal users will not understand what we want from them. The

Re: [libreoffice-design] Some Feedback on Citrus.

2011-11-26 Thread Swapnil Bhartiya
As for including a survey pop up window in 3.5... In theory it's feasible but perhaps there are other -easier-ways? A blog or tweets by the Design team and /or TDF might be enough to attract enough testers. That could be additional, but don't think a majority of LibreOffice users may even kn

Re: [libreoffice-design] Some Feedback on Citrus.

2011-11-26 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hello Alexander, Björn Balazs (in cc) has the experience on surveys and psychology. As for including a survey pop up window in 3.5... In theory it's feasible but perhaps there are other -easier-ways? A blog or tweets by the Design team and /or TDF might be enough to attract enough testers. Best

Re: [libreoffice-design] Some Feedback on Citrus.

2011-11-26 Thread Swapnil Bhartiya
On 11/26/2011 02:08 PM, alexander.wilms wrote: Hi everyone, Kévin, having this in 3.5 would be very helpful, but it shouldn't be too obstrusive. Maybe a simple link in the start center, saying "We plan the redesign LibreOffice. Please help us in the decision process". does anyone here have ex

Re: [libreoffice-design] Some Feedback on Citrus.

2011-11-26 Thread alexander.wilms
Hi everyone, Kévin, having this in 3.5 would be very helpful, but it shouldn't be too obstrusive. Maybe a simple link in the start center, saying "We plan the redesign LibreOffice. Please help us in the decision process". does anyone here have experience with psychology regarding such surveys?

Re: [libreoffice-design] Some Feedback on Citrus.

2011-11-26 Thread Kévin PEIGNOT
If this solution is chosen, we could ask for implementation of this function in LibO 3.5 what do you think ? It should not be very difficult to do I think. Then, obviously the survey would be online (Usability method maybe ? It worked great last time). When we know what people can like, we then cou

Re: [libreoffice-design] Some Feedback on Citrus.

2011-11-26 Thread Swapnil Bhartiya
here is a proposal. I hate it I don't have any better idea : a popup on libreoffice asking to feel the survey. I think, this is the BEST approach. This way instead of relying on a few sites who may have biased readers we will be able to get inputs from real users. If the pop-up is convincin

Re: [libreoffice-design] Some Feedback on Citrus.

2011-11-26 Thread Kévin PEIGNOT
2011/11/26 Swapnil Bhartiya > On 11/25/2011 07:19 PM, Greg wrote: > >> I don't want to rain on your parade but (as a UX practitioner of 20 yrs), >> surveys are almost the least effective means to validate a UI design, >> especially if UI behaviour is included in the investigation. A dozen face >>

Re: [libreoffice-design] Some Feedback on Citrus.

2011-11-26 Thread Swapnil Bhartiya
On 11/25/2011 07:19 PM, Greg wrote: I don't want to rain on your parade but (as a UX practitioner of 20 yrs), surveys are almost the least effective means to validate a UI design, especially if UI behaviour is included in the investigation. A dozen face to face interviews supported by static or e

Re: [libreoffice-design] LibreOffice Interface Better than Citrus

2011-11-26 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
You can talk about mockups all you want none of them will ever be implemented if you don't write specifications for them. :-) Charles. 2011/11/26 alexander.wilms > Hi, > > I agree, Paulos mock-up looks very overcrowded, and in my opinion the > stuff present in the top bar isn't used that ofte