Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: ODF spec for hiding a shape or group

2016-08-04 Thread Jos van den Oever
Hi Regina, Thanks for the elegant ODG test file. On Wednesday 03 August 2016 16:31:18 you wrote: > Jos, Thorsten, should we adapt the specification to the way LibreOffice > and Calligra do it? It would implicate, that the z-index need not be > unique over the whole document, but only locally on

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: ODF spec for hiding a shape or group

2016-08-04 Thread Jos van den Oever
On Wednesday 03 August 2016 12:01:04 Yousuf 'Jay' Philips wrote: > On 08/03/2016 09:36 AM, Taylor Jenkins wrote: > > *See comments inline.* > > > > *In ODF (LO 5.1), groups do have a z-index. When a group is created, it > > is created as a new shape and assigned a z index. The sub shapes are > >

[libreoffice-design] Re: ODF spec for hiding a shape or group

2016-08-04 Thread Jos van den Oever
On Monday 01 August 2016 22:48:32 Yousuf 'Jay' Philips wrote: > ODF layers and groups are interesting as a concept but seem to make > things more complicated than they should be. I can see the point of > layers being presented in horizontal tabs, as that best symbolizes that > they dont affect

[libreoffice-design] Re: ODF spec for hiding a shape or group

2016-08-02 Thread Jos van den Oever
On Monday 01 August 2016 12:49:38 Heiko Tietze wrote: > 2016-08-01 11:41 GMT+02:00 Jos van den Oever <j...@vandenoever.info>: > > Indeed, looking at rendering order, an draw:layer is a group and a a > > draw:group is a layer. > > I think layers is a useful concept, but

[libreoffice-design] Re: ODF spec for hiding a shape or group

2016-08-01 Thread Jos van den Oever
Good morning, Quite a puzzle, this topic. Had to rewrite my reply as I caught on to the thoughts you already put into it. On Monday 01 August 2016 09:14:40 Yousuf 'Jay' Philips wrote: > On 07/31/2016 11:11 PM, Jos van den Oever wrote: > > On Sunday 31 July 2016 18:47:22 Yousuf 'Jay