Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Proposal to improve layer handling and object selection

2016-07-19 Thread Heiko Tietze
Hi all. we dove into the topic last week and discarded a lot of ideas. In the end we agree on the benefit of access via navigator, to stick with the ODF specs, and ideally to have an easy approach for the average users. Out of a number of ideas one solution has mendeled out, but it needs another

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Proposal to improve layer handling and object selection

2016-07-15 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Heiko, Heiko Tietze wrote on 14-07-16 23:26: > We will have a design session tomorrow at 2pm UTC (16:00 Berlin CEST) on > Google Hangouts and talk about the aspects and how to proceed. I think alas I won't be able to join, but - not only for me - is there a summary/overview of the

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Proposal to improve layer handling and object selection

2016-07-14 Thread Heiko Tietze
Hi all, thanks a lot for the enlightening discussion. Additionally to the idea of improving the navigator we also need to discuss how to handle layers since ODF defines it differently from what the average user understands. We will have a design session tomorrow at 2pm UTC (16:00 Berlin CEST) on

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Proposal to improve layer handling and object selection

2016-07-12 Thread Regina Henschel
Hi Stuart, V Stuart Foote schrieb: Well, seems the elephant in the room regards making the GUI functional might be to open discussion of Draw's internals. As LibreOffice does not work on file formats directly, it has always an internal model. And therefore you need to discuss, whether and

[libreoffice-design] Re: Proposal to improve layer handling and object selection

2016-07-12 Thread V Stuart Foote
Well, seems the elephant in the room regards making the GUI functional might be to open discussion of Draw's internals. Don't some of the limitations of ODF 1.2 slip away if we could instead move our vector format natively to SVG, and retaining raster format in BMP meta? That coupled with