Re: [libreoffice-design] The Sidebar Problem

2014-03-22 Thread Jean-Baptiste Faure
Hi, Le 20/03/2014 17:22, Mattias Põldaru a écrit : 07.02.2014 20:41, Jean-Baptiste Faure kirjutas: I think it is not a good idea because with a single place where to look for commands you are sure that an important part of the users will not be able to find these commands easily. On the

Re: [libreoffice-design] The Sidebar Problem

2014-03-20 Thread Nagy Ákos
Maybe one solution is that make the same think, that do Kingsoft Office. Kingsoft office, in installation procedure offer two skins: Classic - with menu, and LO style icons Ribbon Style - with ribbon menu and in Ribbon Style offer a Sidebar (Taks Window) too, for styles, shapes, etc.

Re: [libreoffice-design] The Sidebar Problem

2014-03-20 Thread Nagy Ákos
For this reason is a very good solution to offer two choise, because a lot of people think that the old style is unusable. 2014.03.20. 15:32 keltezéssel, Kracked_P_P---webmaster írta: I hate MSO ribbon menu system. I had to work with it last week and it was a battle to find what I needed in

Re: [libreoffice-design] The Sidebar Problem

2014-03-20 Thread Mattias Põldaru
07.02.2014 20:41, Jean-Baptiste Faure kirjutas: I think it is not a good idea because with a single place where to look for commands you are sure that an important part of the users will not be able to find these commands easily. On the contrary, if you design several ways to access to the

Re: [libreoffice-design] The Sidebar Problem

2014-03-20 Thread Derek Cooper
On 03/20/2014 12:22 PM, Mattias Põldaru wrote: Let me explain what is wrong with your picture with an analogy. First your case: a person walks around the city, reaches the park and hey, how convenient, finds a hammer on top of the fountain. Later under the bridge, hey, what a surprise, a nail.

Re: [libreoffice-design] The Sidebar Problem

2014-03-20 Thread Mattias Põldaru
20.03.2014 19:39, Derek Cooper kirjutas: On 03/20/2014 12:22 PM, Mattias Põldaru wrote: Let me explain what is wrong with your picture with an analogy. First your case: a person walks around the city, reaches the park and hey, how convenient, finds a hammer on top of the fountain. Later under

Re: [libreoffice-design] The Sidebar Problem

2014-03-20 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster
OK Now the question - where is the side bar in LO? I have latest non-RC 4.2.x and do not see a side bar anywhere. Of course it could be a long way off. As for the dual menu option, well you will really need to be specific about the user has the choice and what they are. It would be nice

Re: [libreoffice-design] The Sidebar Problem

2014-02-08 Thread Rodolfo
That's exactly what I thought it should/would be done: resizable and dockable toolbars. Toolbars are already dockable. It could be only resizable and, when it fits, expand its buttons/controls as it is in sidebar. Regards. 2014-02-07 16:41 GMT-02:00 Jean-Baptiste Faure jbf.fa...@sud-ouest.org:

[libreoffice-design] The Sidebar Problem

2014-01-28 Thread Mirek M.
Hi guys, Ever since we've adopted the sidebar, we've had issues with duplicate panels [1]. Worse yet, the sidebar brings yet another UI element to look through for commands. This might not sound like a big problem, but this makes our already hard to use UI even harder to use, and is bound to get

Re: [libreoffice-design] The Sidebar Problem

2014-01-28 Thread Alexander Wilms
Hi Mirek, agree that the duplication of functionality is rather confusing.Did you mean that the individual panes would appear as a pop-up like e.g. the Insert table button already does? The cell appearance btton would then open the panel in sucha a way:

Re: [libreoffice-design] The Sidebar Problem

2014-01-28 Thread Mirek M.
Hi Alex, 2014-01-28 Alexander Wilms f.alexander.wi...@gmail.com Hi Mirek, agree that the duplication of functionality is rather confusing.Did you mean that the individual panes would appear as a pop-up like e.g. the Insert table button already does? The cell appearance btton would then