Re: [libreoffice-design] annnnnd we are back to square one.

2011-11-27 Thread Michel RENON
Le 27/11/11 04:18, Andrew Pullins a écrit : Hello [...] can we get someone from the deve team to help us work on this road map. I know that some of them hang around here. I do not want to mess with what has already been planed but we should start to plan to change the UI. till then we the desi

Re: [libreoffice-design] annnnnd we are back to square one.

2011-11-27 Thread Michel RENON
Le 27/11/11 20:22, Andrew Pullins a écrit : And an important point : please create mockups in wireframe. Otherwise, the theme/aesthetic changes may disturb the UX analysis. [1] [1] http://uxopenofficeorg.**blogspot.com/2010/05/picture-** is-worth-thousand-words.html

Re: [libreoffice-design] annnnnd we are back to square one.

2011-11-27 Thread Christoph Noack
Hi all, It seems we get more traffic on this list if (I have to) stay away for a while. To be serious - I only briefly looked at this thread and noticed two things. First, there are some highly interesting thoughts by both UX guys and developers ... thats something I am very happy with. I'd lik

Re: [libreoffice-design] annnnnd we are back to square one.

2011-11-27 Thread Stefan Knorr (Astron)
Hi Andrew, please remember to be polite. And if you want to work on a roadmap/a spec, then start one! There is absolutely no point in endlessly discussing this on the list and frustrating everyone in the process. For a reasonably complete spec, see e. g. https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/

Re: [libreoffice-design] annnnnd we are back to square one.

2011-11-27 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Andrew I don't think you understand what I am trying to say and I also think you don't know how devs work here and in Free & Open Source projects in general. If we have to implement UI features one by one you will work on them one by one, therefore, a roadmap is not that useful as you will have o

Re: [libreoffice-design] annnnnd we are back to square one.

2011-11-27 Thread Andrew Pullins
Michel sorry I did not read that email thread, will take a look at it. Charles To keep this simple and without shame of repeating myself: >> The developers cannot implement a complete redesign all at once. Therefore >> you need to push changes one by one. Little by little. In order to do this >>

Re: [libreoffice-design] annnnnd we are back to square one.

2011-11-27 Thread Michel RENON
Le 27/11/11 18:22, Charles-H. Schulz a écrit : Andrew, To keep this simple and without shame of repeating myself: The developers cannot implement a complete redesign all at once. Therefore you need to push changes one by one. Little by little. In order to do this you need to write specification

Re: [libreoffice-design] annnnnd we are back to square one.

2011-11-27 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Andrew, To keep this simple and without shame of repeating myself: The developers cannot implement a complete redesign all at once. Therefore you need to push changes one by one. Little by little. In order to do this you need to write specification for each of the UI feature. What has been written

Re: [libreoffice-design] annnnnd we are back to square one.

2011-11-27 Thread Michel RENON
Hi, Le 27/11/11 04:29, August Sodora a écrit : If there were some specifications for the roadmap entries that the design list likes, I would certainly try and implement it. For the really near term, I remember somebody mentioning that a specification was in progress for the macros dialog; has th

Re: [libreoffice-design] annnnnd we are back to square one.

2011-11-26 Thread Andrew Pullins
HI If there were some specifications for the roadmap entries that the > design list likes, I would certainly try and implement it. For the > really near term, I remember somebody mentioning that a specification > was in progress for the macros dialog; has this progressed since then? > I would real

Re: [libreoffice-design] annnnnd we are back to square one.

2011-11-26 Thread August Sodora
If there were some specifications for the roadmap entries that the design list likes, I would certainly try and implement it. For the really near term, I remember somebody mentioning that a specification was in progress for the macros dialog; has this progressed since then? I would really like to i

[libreoffice-design] annnnnd we are back to square one.

2011-11-26 Thread Andrew Pullins
Hello Björn > As a personal remark to this thread: > A complete redesign of the interface is not on the agendy of any > LO-developer > (as far as I know). So, please do not waste your or anybody elses time with > creating big pictures. We will get to the point where this is constructive > - > but