[libreoffice-design] Foundation Fundraising
Hello, I am copying a few lists on this, so all teams are informed. *Please* do continue discussion *solely* on the appropriate lists, e.g. website for website related tasks, design for design related tasks and so on, do *not* Cc all the lists when replying. :-) Introduction At the moment, The Document Foundation [1] is no legal entity by itself, but the German non-profit association OpenOffice.org Deutschland e.V. [2], despite its name, is holding the legal assets, accepts donations, and pays for the infrastructure and other things. The fact that the Foundation has not been set-up at first place was on purpose, to leave doors to potential contributors open and allow everyone to participate in shaping it. One of the results of this Community process are our Bylaws [3], which will also serve as basis for the Foundation's statutes. During the last weeks, the Steering Committee [4] of The Document Foundation evaluated various options for setting up the legal entity. In a public Steering Committee Phone Conference [5], the following decision was made: * The Foundation should be established in Germany in the form of a Stiftung. o Foundations have quite a good tradition in Germany, and the benefits in terms of taxes and credibility are high. In addition, the German model provides a high security and stability, as the Foundation's statutes cannot be changed, or at least not in major parts. o In contrast, a German association would be much easier to set-up, but the majority of the members can easily change the statutes. This is something we want to avoid, in order to provide safety and stability for our users and the whole Community. o The drawback of a Germany-based Foundation is that we need at least 50.000 € for the capital stock, ideally it is even 100.000 €. That money can not be used for daily work, but needs to stay in the stock. This is required for the safety of a Germany-based model. * The Steering Committee set itself a deadline for getting the required funds, which will be end of March 2011. If, by that date, we do not have enough Funds in donations, or confirmations by sponsors, the Foundation then can not not be set-up in Germany, but we will rather go for a legal entity in the United Kingdom. o A legal entity in the UK is not as desirable as in Germany, as in the latter one we have many active members, the roots of the product originally lie here, a lot of support from corporations and governmental bodies is expected. In addition, a German Stiftung is generally perceived as something very trustworthy and stable. o However, if by the end of March 2011, we will not succeed with a Germany-based model, it is unlikely that we will manage it later on, so that deadline is fixed. Fundraising In order to achieve our goal, we need to start a fundraising. Perception of The Document Foundation and LibreOffice has been very well, we received lots of supportive words from private end-users, corporations and governmental entities, however, donations in terms of money [6] came in mostly by private users. This has various reasons: * Getting support in terms of resources from corporations is much easier than getting money. * Many corporations do not want to invest in the capital stock, but rather in the daily business. However, without a capital stock, a Germany-based Foundation is not possible. This is somehow a chicken-and-egg-problem. * We did not start an actual fundraising up to now, except a call for donations. Within the next days, we plan to start a public fundraising, targeted at corporations, governmental entities, as well as private users, in order to collect the needed funds. After this very long introduction, serving that we're all at the same page, I'm coming to the point. :-) I have set up a dedicated wiki page for collecting ideas at http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF/Foundation_Fundraising#Ideas and would like to encourage all of you to add and contribute ideas. As the deadline is approaching quickly, we need to start acting soon in order to get things up and running, and any help is very much welcome. In order to have efforts coordinated, please do *not* start working on your own without asking on the lists. We all have been through tough discussions regarding these issues the last weeks, so this one should work more coordinated. :-) If you have an idea, and you can actually work on it, add your name to the wiki. After we decided which fundraising actions to take, we then can start working on it and also involve the press. Again, in order to have the best press coverage, we need to work coordinated. Thanks a lot to all of you for your help in this next important step of our journey! Florian [1] http://www.documentfoundation.org [2] http://www.ooodev.org [3] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/CommunityBylaws [4]
Re: [libreoffice-design] Impress(ing) Templates
Hi LibO Designers, Quick question... Is anyone familiar with the following: - Right-to-left language templates (ex: Arabic, Hebrew) - Top-to-bottom language templates (ex: Chinese) I feel like it would be nice if we supported those with at least one general use template for each language direction. What do people think? I am personally completely unfamiliar with top-to-bottom languages in the context of presentations. Cheers, Jaron On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Kevin Soviero ksovi...@gmail.com wrote: Alright, How about we carve template design up into sections, one (or more) for each of us... For example, I am good at making the background (not just cause its easy ;)), and I can coordinate colors. We need someone to do the technical stuff (title placement, etc...) , and we need to come up with the subjects to base the templates on. Your list is a very good start though... Any other jobs you can think of? On 01/31/2011 08:43 PM, Paulo José wrote: It's a great idea! I think some steps to start this should be: 1. Choose some main topics to cover with the templates, for all types of presentation: school, enterprise, marketing... 2. Look for the real presentations in each topics. There are many sites of slide sharing, when you can find the most rated presentations. I gives the feeling of what is needed to achieve in each template. 3. Work hard to create the best templates in a office suite ever! :D Count with me, ~Paulo I ever start with the Ubuntu one... :P On 31-01-2011 01:45, Kevin Soviero wrote: As I am sure most of you have noticed by now, the default set of templates from OOo Impress is terrible. I was wondering if I were to make a set (lets say 10 - 20) of really high quality templates for Impress, if we could get them included by default? -- Kevin Soviero Email: ksovi...@gmail.com mailto:ksovi...@gmail.com Phone: (512) 672-9641 -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-design] [REVIEWED] New mimetype icons - need patch review for -3-3
Hi Thorsten, On Thu, 2011-02-03 at 23:57 +0100, Thorsten Behrens wrote: please find a set of patches to bring the new mimetype icons into LibO-3-3 here: How much value there is in trying to review large binary diffs I don't know ;-) But the risk is really low here anyway - at worst we have a few inconsistent corner-cases for RC1. Please can you merge them to libreoffice-3-3 ? (I assume they are on master - right ?) the scripts to convert, and distribute, are here: http://users.freedesktop.org/~thorsten/icon-update.tgz We should get that and the source svg into git, obviously. It'd be ideal if we could do the dicing during the build process too (?) though not sure that is entirely feasible ;-) I'd need a patch review before committing that to -3-3. Linux Mac builds work fine look great, did not yet try win32. For win32, at least you nailed the sysui/ .ico files - which is what is needed I guess :-) Thanks ! Michael. -- michael.me...@novell.com , Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-design] Some question concerning the 'fields' dialogue in writer
Hi Björn, sorry for the delay, since the FOSDEM (preparation and - still - postoration *g*) keeps me a bit busy. Am Donnerstag, den 03.02.2011, 16:25 +0100 schrieb Björn Balazs: Hi all, Together with Paolo I am fighting my way through the 'fields' dialogue in writer in order to find a more usable solution for it. Cool, thanks! While we make good progress and hope to have understood most of the dialogue some questions remain - perhaps you can help? My proposal would be to ask on the user mailing list as well, since the guys who support there, have a deep understanding concerning the use cases. At least, that's what I perceived on the German mailing lists in the past. - How is the 'database' tab supposed to work? (and would you suggest to fit it into the structure?) Hhm, did you have a look at the help - the descriptions are usually not that bad. The right side of the dialog seems to be a duplication of the Data Source Explorer that can be enabled via View -- Data Sources. Please search for the string (Data Source Explorer) in the help and you'll find some more explanation. In short: Databases are abstracted elements (data sources) that are available within LibO. - How does the 'DDE Field' dialogue work? (and is it still needed? - I read something about outdated technology) Maybe having a look at the bottom of the help page DDE;command for inserting sections might help ... and outdated, I don't know, since many of our users work in heterogeneous environments. But here, really, I don't know. - Do you agree with removing 'Execute Macros' and 'Combine Characters' from the dialogue? (As they are no fields and do not belong here) Concerning Execute Macros ... why isn't that a field? Okay, it rather works like a form control, but it's embedded into the text. The field (or let's say tag/command) tells Writer to execute a macro when the user clicks on it. Where do you think does it belong to ... some kind of actions links, something separate. Personally, I'm unsure (really). Concerning the Combine Characters, here we should rely on the help of some Asien guys, since it seems for them (although the functionality itself seems to work very similar to a Math object, character based anchor). - Do you have any good reasons why 'Input field' is needed and shouldn't be substituted by the corresponding 'variable', resp. 'user field' dialogue? Input fields can be changed from within the document - in comparison with the variables set via the fields dialog. User fields are (as far as I know) global variables, whereas variables are local ones - can be overwritten according to the textflow of the document. But I'm not sure ... - Do you have any suggestions for improvements of the supposed structure? Working offline now (sitting in the train), I don't have access, sorry! You can find the current state of work on my wiki page [1] and you are invited to use it as a wiki too. Mmmh, wouldn't it be helpful to move the content to an official activity page (see the Design Team wiki page, Work_Items) - that might be a bit more impressing to others ;-))) All wording is provisional. Structure is not. Send me a personal mail if you want to work on the original mindmapping file (created with freemind [2]). I am not allowed to upload the file (.mm) to the wiki :( Oh, you can ZIP this file and upload it - workaround, but (as the name suggests) it works :-) Some time ago, I had also a look whether there are any mindmap extensions for MediaWiki, but there doesn't seem to be that much. Has anybody experience with that? Would be great to directly work on such mindmaps in the wiki. At least, a Freemind extension for displaying such mindmaps exists, as far as I know. Looking forward to your comments! (Not so) Prompt Delivery ;-) Cheers, Björn By the way, is Freemind already listed on our tools page? Cheers, Christoph -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-design] Back in business, hopefully
Hi Mirek, great to have you back :-) I'm also back (from the FOSDEM) and try to cover some of the points below. Am Montag, den 07.02.2011, 17:45 +0100 schrieb Mirek M.: c) I think that the change of the default icon set to Tango happened a bit too early, as a number of the icons are actually a lot less usable than their Galaxy equivalents. For example, look at the smiley face icon or the flowchart icons on the Drawing toolbar -- you can hardly see the inner lines. In general, there is a lot less contrast in the Tango icons than there was in Galaxy, which means that icons are a bit harder to decipher. Correct, was rather a DEV decision than a Design decision. The coverage is sometimes less than optimal, especially with regard to specific functionality like the macro stuff. d) Great to see the Design team Kick-off. Is there a certain schedule for each of the steps? Unfortunately, not. But I wanted to announce the next step (introduction) tomorrow or the day after. First, I'd like to provide the presentation material which might be interesting as well. But you are right, a schedule might help here, although we might miss some data (which is not bad, but the schedule might make our approach more transparent). Maybe I'll come up with a proposal ... Hopefully that covers most of the important topics on the list. In any case, I'm glad to be back and ready to help. :-) Mirek, one thing that is important to me is, that someone has an additional look at the website topics at the moment. I was unable to keep track concerning the menu stuff ... but it seems that some discussions are a bit too technical, although the main issues arise from content / structure on the website. Cheers, Christoph -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-design] Logo proposal without TDF line
Hi Bernhard, I'm sorry to appear a bit disruptive, but I think that the changes concerning the logo already address some parts of the community branding. Although I'm happy if we can further refine our branding, I fear that such changes lead to a bit confusion ... I've already seen a lot of Material created for the trade fairs (shirts, banner, pens, lanyards, ...) being affected of such changes. Moreover, blogger and press already use the given material ... so I am a bit doubtful concerning any change at the moment. Thus, if there are issues to combine the document symbol with the rest of the graphic items, would it be helpful to just foucs on the text LibreOffice and a subline? If we need something neat, why not play with the triangle that may be added somewhere - it can also be considered to be a (current) key visual. What do you think? Cheers, Christoph Am Sonntag, den 06.02.2011, 13:44 +0100 schrieb Bernhard Dippold: Hi Nik, all, here my ideas: Dr. Bernhard Dippold schrieb: Hi Nik, all, sorry for not replying earlier, but... Nik wrote: [...] If we were feeling adventurous, I think small changes could really improve the look of the current logo; (refer to R05) *http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibOlogo_reconfigs03.jpg* - Clip the L so it is cut by the same gap which slices the paper icon: for continuation. Good idea - even if I don't think we should do the same with the b2 as in R06. I've already tried to reduce the distance between symbol and L even more by extending the green corner to the L - not really a valid idea, but you might get what I mean, when I'll upload the draft tomorrow (today only mail access). http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibO_Logo_idea.png Still with the darker grey, no consistency in borders, distance between symbol and corner still to be improved and many other things... I'd like to see the symbol as integrated part of the logo - and with less difference in height between symbol and text, allowing the text to be readable in smaller scales too. I prefer b) very much over a), because the corner becomes too large and I like optical illusion (negative visualization of the upper part of the L), but I wanted to show you both. Best regards Bernhard -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-design] Logo proposal without TDF line
Hi all, I totally forgot to mention ... The LibO banners Cor brought to the FOSDEM were based on our installer images and just looked *amazing* - so although we talk about some issues, the quality was just great. There was even a person who came and asked to get one of those simple printouts after the FOSDEM. Moreover, I got some feedback by one core developer who really liked the clean design of the current splash screen :-) Cheers, Christoph Am Montag, den 07.02.2011, 22:34 +0100 schrieb Christoph Noack: Hi Bernhard, I'm sorry to appear a bit disruptive, but I think that the changes concerning the logo already address some parts of the community branding. Although I'm happy if we can further refine our branding, I fear that such changes lead to a bit confusion ... I've already seen a lot of Material created for the trade fairs (shirts, banner, pens, lanyards, ...) being affected of such changes. Moreover, blogger and press already use the given material ... so I am a bit doubtful concerning any change at the moment. Thus, if there are issues to combine the document symbol with the rest of the graphic items, would it be helpful to just foucs on the text LibreOffice and a subline? If we need something neat, why not play with the triangle that may be added somewhere - it can also be considered to be a (current) key visual. What do you think? Cheers, Christoph Am Sonntag, den 06.02.2011, 13:44 +0100 schrieb Bernhard Dippold: Hi Nik, all, here my ideas: Dr. Bernhard Dippold schrieb: Hi Nik, all, sorry for not replying earlier, but... Nik wrote: [...] If we were feeling adventurous, I think small changes could really improve the look of the current logo; (refer to R05) *http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibOlogo_reconfigs03.jpg* - Clip the L so it is cut by the same gap which slices the paper icon: for continuation. Good idea - even if I don't think we should do the same with the b2 as in R06. I've already tried to reduce the distance between symbol and L even more by extending the green corner to the L - not really a valid idea, but you might get what I mean, when I'll upload the draft tomorrow (today only mail access). http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibO_Logo_idea.png Still with the darker grey, no consistency in borders, distance between symbol and corner still to be improved and many other things... I'd like to see the symbol as integrated part of the logo - and with less difference in height between symbol and text, allowing the text to be readable in smaller scales too. I prefer b) very much over a), because the corner becomes too large and I like optical illusion (negative visualization of the upper part of the L), but I wanted to show you both. Best regards Bernhard -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-design] Impress(ing) Templates
Hi LibO Designers, Sorry for a second email already. ;-) I decided to send out a list of potential template categories that Kevin and I would use to guide our development of the default LibO templates. I wasn't sure how to get started so I thought about use cases for Impress and then created potential template categories as follows (with design concepts in parenthesizes): *Academic templates:* - Architecture/Engineering (I-beam or similar structural element) - Biology/Chemistry (chemical symbol or stylized chemical model) - Social Sciences (one template as a sociology image) - *Economics could overlap with Business template and Geography could overlap with travel* - Performing arts - History *Business Templates:* - Business logo oriented theme (could include directions in theme to substitute a company logo for a placeholder within the master) - Motivational: (Stylized human reaching for star) *Leisure home Templates: * - Photobooks (bound book look) - Weddings or other life-events - Sports (maybe a Futbol theme as it is the most popular sport internationally) *Nature and Travel Templates:* - Seasonal (perhaps a simple one for each season) - Nature and animals - Travel (Famous locations or a stylized map/compass) *General Templates:* - Solid color (currently available in LibO, so we should evaluate which ones we want to keep) - High contrast (Simple black on white or similar) - *Right-to-left language templates:* exs: Arabic, Hebrew - *Top-to-bottom language Templates:* exs: Chinese Please provide feedback or direction as Kevin and I move forward on developing a few templates. Thanks! Cheers, Jaron On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Jaron Kuppers jaronba...@gmail.com wrote: Hi LibO Designers, Quick question... Is anyone familiar with the following: - Right-to-left language templates (ex: Arabic, Hebrew) - Top-to-bottom language templates (ex: Chinese) I feel like it would be nice if we supported those with at least one general use template for each language direction. What do people think? I am personally completely unfamiliar with top-to-bottom languages in the context of presentations. Cheers, Jaron On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Kevin Soviero ksovi...@gmail.com wrote: Alright, How about we carve template design up into sections, one (or more) for each of us... For example, I am good at making the background (not just cause its easy ;)), and I can coordinate colors. We need someone to do the technical stuff (title placement, etc...) , and we need to come up with the subjects to base the templates on. Your list is a very good start though... Any other jobs you can think of? On 01/31/2011 08:43 PM, Paulo José wrote: It's a great idea! I think some steps to start this should be: 1. Choose some main topics to cover with the templates, for all types of presentation: school, enterprise, marketing... 2. Look for the real presentations in each topics. There are many sites of slide sharing, when you can find the most rated presentations. I gives the feeling of what is needed to achieve in each template. 3. Work hard to create the best templates in a office suite ever! :D Count with me, ~Paulo I ever start with the Ubuntu one... :P On 31-01-2011 01:45, Kevin Soviero wrote: As I am sure most of you have noticed by now, the default set of templates from OOo Impress is terrible. I was wondering if I were to make a set (lets say 10 - 20) of really high quality templates for Impress, if we could get them included by default? -- Kevin Soviero Email: ksovi...@gmail.com mailto:ksovi...@gmail.com Phone: (512) 672-9641 -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-design] Logo proposal without TDF line
On 02/07/2011 03:48 PM, Christoph Noack wrote: Hi Jeff, yes, all the material is available. Just being curious, what do you intend to do? Thanks, Christoph Here's the relevant thread: http://www.mail-archive.com/design@libreoffice.org/msg00747.html -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-design] Logo proposal without TDF line
On Mon, 2011-02-07 at 15:52 -0700, Jeff Chimene wrote: On 02/07/2011 03:48 PM, Christoph Noack wrote: Hi Jeff, yes, all the material is available. Just being curious, what do you intend to do? Thanks, Christoph Here's the relevant thread: http://www.mail-archive.com/design@libreoffice.org/msg00747.html Hi Jeff, Here is a pdf file that should work for the 5' x 2.5' banner http://oucv.org/libreoffice/banner_60inx30in.pdf //drew -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-design] Logo proposal without TDF line
On Mon, 2011-02-07 at 18:59 -0500, drew wrote: On Mon, 2011-02-07 at 15:52 -0700, Jeff Chimene wrote: On 02/07/2011 03:48 PM, Christoph Noack wrote: Hi Jeff, yes, all the material is available. Just being curious, what do you intend to do? Thanks, Christoph Here's the relevant thread: http://www.mail-archive.com/design@libreoffice.org/msg00747.html Hi Jeff, Here is a pdf file that should work for the 5' x 2.5' banner http://oucv.org/libreoffice/banner_60inx30in.pdf and here is 35 x 20 http://oucv.org/libreoffice/banner_35inx20in.pdf Both files are set for 75 dpi Thanks -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-design] Logo proposal without TDF line
Hi Jeff, Here is a pdf file that should work for the 5' x 2.5' banner http://oucv.org/libreoffice/banner_60inx30in.pdf and here is 35 x 20 http://oucv.org/libreoffice/banner_35inx20in.pdf Both files are set for 75 dpi Sorry for one more mail on this: - you can find the svg files in the same location just change the file descriptor. Just export to pdf from inkscape if you need to make a change. [I did make one last change to each so check that you clear you cache before grabbing the pdf files] Drew -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-design] Logo request for vinyl banner
On 02/07/2011 04:08 PM, Bernhard Dippold wrote: Hi Jeff, * Jeff Chimene schrieb: Hi Bernard, Drew: Thanks so much for taking the time to answer my questions. I /really/ appreciate your help! I've tried to answer your questions inline below. I still have a few of my own. On 02/06/2011 03:57 PM, Bernhard Dippold wrote: Hi Jeff, * Jeff Chimene schrieb: Hi Folks: I'm hoping someone can help w/ this request. I'd like to get a 5' wide banner for the SCALE event in California at the end of this month. Is there an official logo that's at least 600dpi resolution? Please have a look at the branding wiki page: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding#Resources Got it. Thanks So you found the links there in the table? They are different from the link you give here Drew: I'm thinking this image: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibreOffice-Initial-Artwork-Colors_Guidelines_Valid1.png This is *not* the official logo file, it just describes how the logo should be used. It was simply a starting point, not the final banner contents. I spoke too informally for the list. The links in the table at http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding#Resources contain the logo in different versions. Like the one I mentioned here: The largest exported PNG version is 2000px width It's direct link in the contemporary version is: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibreOffice_Initial-Artwork-Logo_ColorLogoContemporary_2000px.png Thanks. I've been looking at that image. but you can use Inkscape with the source file linked there to export larger versions too. Hi Bernard: Is that the image here? http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibreOffice-Initial-Artwork-Colors_Guidelines_Valid1.png If not, where do I find it? See above. I can scale it via Gimp. Please *never* upscale a bitmap to get a larger image (except you want to reach the pixelized view as a matter of artistic element). Right. I was going upscale the vector version. My apologies for the confusion. I realize I have to use Inkscape (upscale vector, not bitmap). If you can't use the vector source from the table, I'll create a bitmap in the right dimensions for you. Well, I know far less about Inkscape than Gimp. However, I really don't want to make additional work for you. The printer is named VistaPrint Know it - used it for my private business cards. It looks like the best resolution I can get with them is 75 dpi (see below) So you want a logo in 5' width and 75 dpi resolution? The file would be 5 (foot) x 12 (inch to foot) x 75 (DPI) = 4500 px in width and 1436 px in height. The resulting banner would be 5' x 1.596' (1,52m x 0,484m) I don't know if you want to print the Basic or Contemporary logo. Contemporary. Is that what Cor used? While the basic version consists of only two colors (Green and Black), the contemporary uses different gradients in the green tone and grey. I don't know if there will be a difference in the price - the gradient between two different green tones will lead to a multitude of colors, so it might be more expensive... The VistaPrint pricing does not seem to be color sensitive. Especially with posters and banners please remember to include the necessary white space area around the logo in your design. Right (see below re: full bleed) I see that there's an interesting design for a vertical banner. Is that design ready yet? Which design do you talk about? Can you link it here? http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Banner_Rough_Ideas_fromcornouws.png There are different ideas on the file. Cor used no 3 on FOSDEM - see below. From Cor's response, I found the zip file and the logo. I don't know how folks downstream (i.e. subsequent U.S. shows) would react to a vertical logo, but I think it's cool. What size do you need? Full Bleed Size (starting document size) 71.80 x 30.20 1824mm x 767mm 5385 x 2265 pixels That's not the vertical banner - do you speak of the logo banner again? Yes. That's the size from VistaPrint's specifications. The vertical banner would be rotated to fit. As far as I can tell, VistaPrint recommends an image sized to the above dimensions, full bleed. Without scaling the current images, I agree, there will be too much whitespace around the logo. Here's my dilemma: 1. You've already done the work to upscale the vertical image. I'd like to reuse that work. But, I don't know how other people would react to a vertical orientation. 2. The contemporary logo would have to be upscaled to get to 5385 x 2265 pixels. I don't know how the banner will be used at future tradeshows, so I don't want to pre-position the image to handle the whitespace. I guess the best answer is to scale the contemporary logo in svg format to VistaPrint's full-bleed measurements at a resolution that keeps the total file size under 12 Mb. If that can be done via PICT, that's fine. It may be that due
Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-design] Logo proposal without TDF line
On 02/07/2011 05:24 PM, drew wrote: Hi Jeff, Here is a pdf file that should work for the 5' x 2.5' banner http://oucv.org/libreoffice/banner_60inx30in.pdf and here is 35 x 20 http://oucv.org/libreoffice/banner_35inx20in.pdf Both files are set for 75 dpi Sorry for one more mail on this: - you can find the svg files in the same location just change the file descriptor. Just export to pdf from inkscape if you need to make a change. [I did make one last change to each so check that you clear you cache before grabbing the pdf files] Drew OK I'll look at them now. Bernhard: are you following this thread? -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-design] Logo proposal without TDF line
On 02/07/2011 04:59 PM, drew wrote: On Mon, 2011-02-07 at 15:52 -0700, Jeff Chimene wrote: On 02/07/2011 03:48 PM, Christoph Noack wrote: Hi Jeff, yes, all the material is available. Just being curious, what do you intend to do? Thanks, Christoph Here's the relevant thread: http://www.mail-archive.com/design@libreoffice.org/msg00747.html Hi Jeff, Here is a pdf file that should work for the 5' x 2.5' banner http://oucv.org/libreoffice/banner_60inx30in.pdf //drew HI Drew: Do you still want the large banner? If so, we'll need an image that has the following dimensions 71.80 x 30.20 1824mm x 767mm 5385 x 2265 pixels The image you sent will work for the small banner. It's free, and has the following dimensions: 35.70 x 20.20 907mm x 513mm 2678 x 1515 pixels -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Banner ( was: Re: [libreoffice-design] Logo proposal without TDF line )
On Mon, 2011-02-07 at 19:50 -0700, Jeff Chimene wrote: On 02/07/2011 04:59 PM, drew wrote: On Mon, 2011-02-07 at 15:52 -0700, Jeff Chimene wrote: On 02/07/2011 03:48 PM, Christoph Noack wrote: Hi Jeff, yes, all the material is available. Just being curious, what do you intend to do? Thanks, Christoph Here's the relevant thread: http://www.mail-archive.com/design@libreoffice.org/msg00747.html Hi Jeff, Here is a pdf file that should work for the 5' x 2.5' banner http://oucv.org/libreoffice/banner_60inx30in.pdf //drew HI Drew: Do you still want the large banner? If so, we'll need an image that has the following dimensions 71.80 x 30.20 1824mm x 767mm 5385 x 2265 pixels YES (ah somehow I thought you where going with 5' not 6.) - give me a few minutes. I could produce one with the contemporary logo, but looking at the photos from FOSDEM it does not look like the banner uses it, it looks like it uses the one in the file you have. Also I see they went much closer to edges then I did, I'll do that also, which will raise the height, which is a good thing. BRB The image you sent will work for the small banner. It's free, and has the following dimensions: 35.70 x 20.20 907mm x 513mm 2678 x 1515 pixels -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: Banner ( was: Re: [libreoffice-design] Logo proposal without TDF line )
On 02/07/2011 08:05 PM, drew wrote: On Mon, 2011-02-07 at 19:50 -0700, Jeff Chimene wrote: On 02/07/2011 04:59 PM, drew wrote: On Mon, 2011-02-07 at 15:52 -0700, Jeff Chimene wrote: On 02/07/2011 03:48 PM, Christoph Noack wrote: Hi Jeff, yes, all the material is available. Just being curious, what do you intend to do? Thanks, Christoph Here's the relevant thread: http://www.mail-archive.com/design@libreoffice.org/msg00747.html Hi Jeff, Here is a pdf file that should work for the 5' x 2.5' banner http://oucv.org/libreoffice/banner_60inx30in.pdf //drew HI Drew: Do you still want the large banner? If so, we'll need an image that has the following dimensions 71.80 x 30.20 1824mm x 767mm 5385 x 2265 pixels YES (ah somehow I thought you where going with 5' not 6.) VistaPrint only does fixed sizes. You were right: originally it was 5'. However, that's not possible with VistaPrint. - give me a few minutes. No problem. I have plenty to do this evening. I could produce one with the contemporary logo, but looking at the photos from FOSDEM it does not look like the banner uses it, it looks like it uses the one in the file you have. Good. I'm glad you're tracking that. Also I see they went much closer to edges then I did, I'll do that also, which will raise the height, which is a good thing. Agreed. BRB Standing by. How do we make sure that Bernhard is in the loop? -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: Banner ( was: Re: [libreoffice-design] Logo proposal without TDF line )
On Mon, 2011-02-07 at 20:08 -0700, Jeff Chimene wrote: On 02/07/2011 08:05 PM, drew wrote: On Mon, 2011-02-07 at 19:50 -0700, Jeff Chimene wrote: On 02/07/2011 04:59 PM, drew wrote: On Mon, 2011-02-07 at 15:52 -0700, Jeff Chimene wrote: Do you still want the large banner? If so, we'll need an image that has the following dimensions 71.80 x 30.20 1824mm x 767mm 5385 x 2265 pixels YES (ah somehow I thought you where going with 5' not 6.) VistaPrint only does fixed sizes. You were right: originally it was 5'. However, that's not possible with VistaPrint. - give me a few minutes. No problem. I have plenty to do this evening. I could produce one with the contemporary logo, but looking at the photos from FOSDEM it does not look like the banner uses it, it looks like it uses the one in the file you have. Good. I'm glad you're tracking that. http://oucv.org/libreoffice/banner_72inx30in.pdf same deal, the svg is along side just change the descriptor. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
