[libreoffice-design] Re: Wallpapers in the Design wiki
Le 2011-02-28 15:31, Christoph Noack a écrit : Hi Paulo, all! Paulo, thanks for the wallpaper source files! Since they are so precious, I've created a small page for all our wallpaper development work. It closely relates to the Marketing Wallpaper page, but ... * Marketing wiki -- official download for end-users * Design wiki -- development work, documentation and source files So here is the new page: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Wallpapers Linked from within: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design#Work_Items If there is general agreement that this might be helpful, I'll ask on the Marketing list (maybe people are listening here as well) to refer to our new page. Cheers, Christoph Hi Christoph This is great! In fact, if you just inform the marketing team of new available wallpapers on the wiki we will update our wiki. But, yes, if you feel like it, feel free to update our wiki page with any new wallpaper sets. Our marketing wallpaper pages will also be visited by regular users for download purposes. So, it is good that they not see anything that is not approved by the design team. It would be good if the approval process were a little more streamlined. It is often difficult to figure out what has been approved and what is not approved. If this were made more clearly on the design pages it would really help. The marketing team should not be using designs that have not been approved by the design team. Cheers Marc -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-design] Finalizing / refining the LibreOffice icons
Hi all, since the funding challenge got a bit more relaxing, I had a look at some of the open topics - and guess what? I'd like to ask you for some help :-) One important topic are (still) the icons for LibreOffice we've recently shipped with 3.3.1. But there are still some issues that should be resolved - by us, and by the development. I've updated the list Feedback and Issues and and linked to some bug reports. But, we need the missing icons for the File-New dropdown having some special requirements. Please have a look: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/LibreOffice_Initial_Icons#Feedback_and_Issues If anybody could start working on that - it would be just great! And, if we want to ship this with 3.3.2, there not that much time left ... they have to be integrated, QAed, uploaded, ... so here is the release plan: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan#3.3.2_release Anybody who might grab this? Cheers, Christoph -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-design] ligatures in the logo [was: LibO logo]
Hi Joey, all, sorry for a short reply, but time is precious ... Johannes Bausch schrieb: [...] @Bernhard: Do you mean the bow on the first f should also point towards the middle of the i? Or just bend exactly the same way the second f does? The two bows should have the same curvature (just my personal opinion, but it avoids the impression of different f shapes). I raised the dot because I thought it looked better (I didn't think much about that, to be honest). I guess I wanted to avoid bending the f bow too much - if you leave the dot where it was and still want the f bow to point towards it, you have to bend it very strongly which doesn't look good. It looks different from the original Vegur f, but a slightly stronger bending doesn't harm the general impression in my eyes. My example [1] reduced the distance between the second f and the i to less than the distance between the f, because the i is lighter than the f (due to the white area around the dot). But this is not necessarily the right way to go. We can adapt the distance between f and i to the distance between the two f and raise the dot without enlarging the f height. This would lead to a slightly increased bending of the second f bow - what should be repeated for the first f. Do you think this is reasonable? Best regards Bernhard -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-design] Branding resources - external and internal use, or ... ?
Hi Christoph, all, Christoph Noack schrieb: Hi Bernhard, hi all! There has been the SC call today, and one of the topics was Trademark Guideline along with the logos for external use. That made me think ... I've had a look at the branding page [1]. To me, personally, the naming resources for external use looks a bit strange. Since most people might go to this page to find out about the logos for the wider community, external use might miss the point a bit. At the end, they don't feel like externals. Your right - the wording has been just a description for usage that is not directly related to our website and the product itself. So my proposal would be to differentiate between resources for TDF use (or official use), and resources for the LibreOffice community. Would that be fine? I don't think that this helps to differ between the two logos. Do you think we need to place them on an equal level for download? If we would provide the logo without TDF subline as downloadable resource and keep the logo with subline as reference where the sources are put aside for more internal use - don't you think this would work? Everybody in need for a logo with subline knows about the difference and will find the resources, even if they are not as prominent as the community logos. Do you think that's appropriate with regard to the trademark guidelines? Charles already put up a logo policy wiki page, describing the different use-cases for the logos in addition to the trademark policy and the branding guidelines: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Logo_Policy I think we should link this page from our branding page too. But I'm not so very happy with our resources in the wiki in general. You already started a dedicated wallpaper wiki page, differing between design and marketing content. I'll start a new thread with the question of copying the OOo Art project's wiki gallery. As I created it, I can relicense it ;-) : http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Art/Gallery Best regards Bernhard Cheers, Christoph [1] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding#Resources_for_external_use -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-design] They need graphic material, WE NEED A MOTIF!
Hi all! I know it's a little late, but I'm trying to reply all the emails I wanted to have replied already... On 22-02-2011 12:59, Nik wrote: [...] I don't think Paulo or myself would consider ourselves ready for leadership responsibilities. Yeah, I'm actually new not only here in this team, but in the Design and UX themselves too. Leadership is not a possibility. I am not a consistent contributor and you cannot rely on my constant availability here, such is the nature of my work. I'm seeing myself in the exactly same position. I follow all the discussions, but my work breaks me to replying and be more active on this mail listing. Paulo is a Design PRODIGY and a truly gifted and enthusiastic addition to our team, but is new to the team and project. He will surely be a great leader, in time. Thank your for the PRODIGY; it's a lot overdone, but still made me smile! :) Three people have remained active, proactive and loyal to this team for the last 10 years: Bernhard, Christoph, You [Ivan]. [...] As it was said before, they already do the leadership job naturally, through their respectable [and highly needed) opinions. Maybe it's just a formalization issue for this fact. ~Paulo -- Paulo José O. Amaro Computer Science Student Federal University of São João del-Rei WebDesigner / Linked Empresa Júnior Blogger / casatwain.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
RE: [libreoffice-design] Using a Gallery table in the wiki to provide design resources?
From: Bernhard Dippold [bernh...@familie-dippold.at] Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 5:54 PM Hi all, as this topic is relevant for design and marketing, I don't see a way to avoid cross-posting. Follow-up on the marketing list please. [] Back in OOo times we had a gallery showing different categories of such artwork which served quite well for people searching for a web button, a banner or a CD/DVD label. [] Do you think this is a good approach? I agree. This does seem to organize our material better. In contrast to the OOo gallery I'd like to see this wiki page as entry point to the officially approved designs - positioned at the marketing area of the wiki (at least until we put them up on the website). +1 -Daniel Merker -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-design] LibO logo
Hi Joey! Firstly, I want to say I'm very glad to see your great artwork. I'll comment more on your work-in-progress; I just wanted to say It's very very good! On 22-02-2011 13:17, Johannes Bausch wrote: [..] Although funding is the main concern atm I have been working on the logo this afternoon and tried to incorporate your citicism. You can see my step-by-step improvement on my user page on the wiki: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:Joey *The Ligatures*: I think the ligatures in the fi letters was a very welcome surprise. It's true they remember a serifed font, but I personally love the way you put this serifed feeling on the LibO logo! I think it makes the logo very particular and organic. I don't see any reason to don't mix serif and sans-serif font when it's obviously look intentional and well done. And for me, that's the case. Although, the Alternative 2 is very well done too and looks particularly authentic to me. It would be a great choose too. The Alternative 1 has the same good conceptual base, but for some reason it reminds me the OpenOffice logo... I don't know why, sorry... :P *Manual kerning*: Well, I'm not the right person to talk about it, but I'm not sure if it's worth, since you can ever make use of a sharpening filter for images. But the changes you've done on the letters shape are a great improvement and make the things much... sexy [I can't find a better adjective]. A note: It seems the D on Document has not a correct kerning, but like I've said, it could be easily adjusted with a sharpening filter. *The sharper corners*: As Christoph said, the softened corners actually make the friendly look and fell of the logo. I think the sharp corners are good too, but you lost a lot of the organic feeling and help the fi original ligature you've proposed. I tried to explain every step I did and why I think it was necessary. Finally, I've done a quick render in blender (see bottom of page). The blender render was a good especial surprise! Very cool! :D Please, keep the great work. I think the best moment to propose a change on the logo is right now. So it's important take this discussions seriously, like you're doing. ~Paulo -- Paulo José O. Amaro Computer Science Student Federal University of São João del-Rei WebDesigner / Linked Empresa Júnior Blogger / casatwain.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-design] Using a Gallery table in the wiki to provide design resources?
Hi Bernhard! I think this is a great idea and would speed up all the artwork progress. I really like this idea! It seems to be a unique place to put all our artworks! :D It would be good to have a place to put our work in progress, or at least some links to our personal pages and other pages related to W.I.P.'s. :) ~Paulo On 28-02-2011 19:54, Bernhard Dippold wrote: Hi all, as this topic is relevant for design and marketing, I don't see a way to avoid cross-posting. Follow-up on the marketing list please. During the last weeks several people worked on design elements to be used in order to improve knowledge and public awareness for LibreOffice. Marc is working hard to put them all together on the marketing wiki, but I feel that we still miss an easy entry point for people interested in using such resources on their website, for marketing activities and so on. Back in OOo times we had a gallery showing different categories of such artwork which served quite well for people searching for a web button, a banner or a CD/DVD label. http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Art/Gallery Before I start working on migrating this gallery to our wiki (as I created it, there is no licensing issue), I'd like to ask your opinion: Do you think this is a good approach? In contrast to the OOo gallery I'd like to see this wiki page as entry point to the officially approved designs - positioned at the marketing area of the wiki (at least until we put them up on the website). The development area on the design wiki might get a similar entry point (for contributors, including the official source file necessary for using them as basis for branding based design), but I think the marketing / user / supporter resources are more important at the moment. Any questions? proposals? ideas? Best regards Bernhard -- Paulo José O. Amaro Computer Science Student Federal University of São João del-Rei WebDesigner / Linked Empresa Júnior Blogger / casatwain.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-design] Challenge Continues-Banner
Hi Tobias, Very quickly reply: I like very much your banner! I think it's very attractive, simple and absolutely nice! :D My only suggestion is to take off the radial light gradient in the middle of the background. Or keep it, but putting some floor's (or even border's) shadows on the document symbol. I think it's worth to try. :) ~Paulo On 27-02-2011 11:26, Tobias Bernard wrote: hi the word cloud thing is a bit tricky... if it is well readable, it doesn't look very good, and if it looks good you can't really read it^^ i tried to have a a bit of both in the new version. http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Libo-challengecontinues-banner-by-tobias.png the space between the words is bigger now, and different for every word. this improves the word cloud impression a bit, but it is still readable. i hope the space between donate now and the document symbol is big enough now;) Am Sonntag, den 27.02.2011, 00:38 +0100 schrieb Bernhard Dippold: Tobias Bernard schrieb: ok, i've reworked the banner, trying to consider all your suggestions, but i didn't understand what's wrong with the spacing (point one in the guidelines) The distance of the logo (in your case the symbol at the bottom of the banner) to every graphical element outside the logo shouldn't be less than half the width of the symbol. As the symbol reached nearly the borders of the banner, elements put beside the banner could have compromised the symbol - reducing the visual impression we want to achieve with our logo and it's elements. But in your new version (I add the link again: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Libo-challengecontinues-banner-by-tobias.png) this is much better! Only the vertical distance especially to the Donate now! badge is a bit small. if you have futher suggestions, just tell me ;) The word cloud is much easier to read :-) Unfortunately this reduces the impression of a word cloud a bit. Did you try to have a bit more space between the single words? I don't know, if this works and stays readable - perhaps with more different font sizes, using green and large font for one word only, some smaller and green, some larger and grey? Just an idea - might be totally wrong... Best regards Bernhard ps: why does the the svg file have such an ugly preview? The preview is better than none as we had it on the OOo wiki ;-) But honestly I don't know. Some SVG images are rendered well, Some other have problems with text and underlying graphics, some don't show the SVG at all. Turning the text into path helps sometimes, but this is no option for text we probably want to modify / translate later on. -- Paulo José O. Amaro Computer Science Student Federal University of São João del-Rei WebDesigner / Linked Empresa Júnior Blogger / casatwain.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
