Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Can we replace Floppy Disk
Hi Charles, Warren, all, Charles-H. Schulz said: Just FYI, we now have people on the discuss list asking how the decision was made, so can you confirm there was a new icon that was used in the Tango category? Hm, oh. Forgot announcing this on the design list, too, so: yes, we have a new icon for the Tango theme, as anyone who has used 3.5 beta 3+ can confirm. The decision to go forward with the new icon kind of came about on the ux-advise list. (By the way, it might help if a few more design people were there to help out developers who are unsure about how to get the user experience for new features right.) See here: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-ux-advise/2012-January/000709.html . The new icon is thanks to two fantastic Gnome people, Lapo Calamandrei and Jakub Steiner, who were kind enough to relicense this icon for us. Warren Camilleri wrote: if i may barge in and put my 2 cents, working in an environment surrounded by simple users the floppy icon is well known as the save button, but for me its iconic to say from where it all began to today evolution of memory, and to play even more safe the gnome one is even more fantastic but i would ad folder in the draw as if you are saving more records... That might work on a larger resolution, but for this level of detail the icon is probably too small. Although, if you want to have a go at adding that, the source SVG is here: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/tree/icon-themes/tango/cmd/lc_save.svg also the floppy is somewhat and international standard, its already hard to push for simple users to switch with their fears of understanding change but it is better to make even more familiar for them. Right, but the Save icon is so prominent in the interface that I believe people will learn it. If there's a massive backlash against the icon, we might need to consider how we can make it better in 3.6/later in the 3.5... cycle. For 3.5.0, I'd say we'd best just leave it in. Astron. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Can we replace Floppy Disk
Why? I love the floppy disk! It's nostalgic! So what! Not that it is too important but I always thought that this is one of the nicest icons of all... Best Christopher On 23.01.2012 11:11, Stefan Knorr (Astron) wrote: Hi Charles, Warren, all, Charles-H. Schulz said: Just FYI, we now have people on the discuss list asking how the decision was made, so can you confirm there was a new icon that was used in the Tango category? Hm, oh. Forgot announcing this on the design list, too, so: yes, we have a new icon for the Tango theme, as anyone who has used 3.5 beta 3+ can confirm. The decision to go forward with the new icon kind of came about on the ux-advise list. (By the way, it might help if a few more design people were there to help out developers who are unsure about how to get the user experience for new features right.) See here: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-ux-advise/2012-January/000709.html . The new icon is thanks to two fantastic Gnome people, Lapo Calamandrei and Jakub Steiner, who were kind enough to relicense this icon for us. Warren Camilleri wrote: if i may barge in and put my 2 cents, working in an environment surrounded by simple users the floppy icon is well known as the save button, but for me its iconic to say from where it all began to today evolution of memory, and to play even more safe the gnome one is even more fantastic but i would ad folder in the draw as if you are saving more records... That might work on a larger resolution, but for this level of detail the icon is probably too small. Although, if you want to have a go at adding that, the source SVG is here: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/tree/icon-themes/tango/cmd/lc_save.svg also the floppy is somewhat and international standard, its already hard to push for simple users to switch with their fears of understanding change but it is better to make even more familiar for them. Right, but the Save icon is so prominent in the interface that I believe people will learn it. If there's a massive backlash against the icon, we might need to consider how we can make it better in 3.6/later in the 3.5... cycle. For 3.5.0, I'd say we'd best just leave it in. Astron. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-design] [info] My recent activities in general
Hi everyone, I hope some of you might remember that there was someone called Christoph sending mails to this list ;-) To be serious, there have been some changes in my private and professional life that make it currently rather difficult to spend that much time for this project. I'm sad about that, although the changes are more than fine (having a wonderful small boy to spend time with, and changing my job - the new one being even more UX-ish than ever before, although it requires much more driving each day). That said, and since I did not contribute anything wow to any of the discussions or bug reports, I think it is inappropriate to keep the role Design Team Lead, User Experience any longer. So thanks to everyone who either initiated the voting for that role, and everyone who expressed their support during the voting. I already felt free to remove that description from the Design Team wiki page [1]. Now, I see two N.N. who need to be filled in the mid-term ... so what do you think? How to go on? Anybody there who might accept to guide the direction of this team? Currently, I hope to be much more helpful by working on the pile of issues assigned to me, helping on the ux-advise list ... and looking at some of the open discussions of the past weeks. For example, it would be nice to know how to continue with smaller and general (seriously developed) UI improvements people ask for regularly. Back to what has been achieved - I was really stunned when I've looked at the LibreOffice 3.5 features (release notes) page. I think the LibreOffice community can be really proud of its achievements - some people actively working on visual design and UX stuff. So let's go on with that part of the story :-) Cheers, Christoph [1] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design [2] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/3.5 -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
