Re: [libreoffice-design] Auto-filter

2012-03-16 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi Shari,

Shari wrote (16-03-12 00:53)

Hi I just wanted to find out where any discussion on changing the
auto-filter to what would better be called a standard filter took place.


No idea, but I can help you a little with your reasoning below.
(Though it does not really belong to this list. UX, or users@ would be 
better, I guess)



The auto-filter which was quick and easy has been replaced with what
would be better termed a standard filter. The ui should have replaced
what was being used for the standard filter and the auto-filter left alone.

It triples the time it used to take me to find what I'm looking for.


Since you use your key board, as I do, a typical use case now is:
1- Ctrl-Arrow Upto get to the to row of the range
2- Alt-Arrow Down   to start the filter
3- Tab  to go to the part with the items
4- Page down/arrow  to find your item
5- Tab  to go to the part below
6- Enterto confirm
   (Alt-Enter or Enter in step 5 would have been better)

Hmm, obviously not so fast as just typing the letter you are looking 
for. But still fast, and much faster then mouse scrolling, IMO.

Of course, if searching on a typed character can be added, that would help.

Cheers,

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Bold and Italic icons

2012-03-16 Thread Kévin PEIGNOT
Hi

Yes we could, but :
 - We have to do this for EVERY ICON
 - We must try for each icon, each language, to be sure it's great looking
...

Then, with using B,U and S for each language, the advantage is it's the
same letter than it is in keyboard shortcut (at least it is in french
instead of G, S and I )

But even with that, I stay for using A for every icon today, and then,
someday, when major problems are solved, introduce this (little) feature.

Kévin


2012/3/16 Ivan Silva Lago Filho ivan...@gmail.com

 As I said before and got no response, we could take the A samples and
 dinamically modify the contents of the tspan tag according to the
 language, since SVG is XML-based.

 2012/3/16 Sabin Densmore sa...@onegecko.com

  Good point, sorry about that.
 
  At any rate, I'm not convinced that a single letter -- upper- or
  lowercase -- is clear enough for a couple of reasons:
  1. Iconography -- which is what an abstract uppercase A really is --
  can be more confusing than language unless that icon is really clear.
  2. The difference between the A when capitalized  bolded is not clear
  enough in most fonts that would look good on an interface. It's a really
  subtle change.
 
  That said, consistent order in the placement of the images, immediate
  feedback, and familiarity with the system(s) will probably be enough to
  override the above, but I think it's worth noting just for the sake of
  discussion, anyhow.
 
  Whatever font is currently used for international symbols and signs,
  though, might be the place to start.
 
  - sabin
 
  On 3/15/2012 3:56 AM, Sveinn í Felli wrote:
   Þann fim 15.mar 2012 03:55, skrifaði King Duck:
   I think it's because the words for bold and italic change depending on
  the
   language. If you just use a character and show the effect, it tells
 the
   user what it does without having to refer to a specific word.
  
   ~ Maggie
  
   On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 7:01 PM, Sabin Densmore sa...@onegecko.com
  wrote:
  
   Just out of curiosity, is there a particular reason we're not using
 B
   and I to indicate Bold and Italic? I don't care either way, but am
   curious as to why.
  
   For what it's worth, Thunderbird (what I'm using now) uses a capital
   letter A. It's just hard to tell the difference between an italic
 A
   and a non-italic A.
  
   - sd
   I've responded to a similar question before:
   
 http://www.mail-archive.com/design@global.libreoffice.org/msg03712.html
  
  
   Saw also that someone asked why not use lowercase letters. It's the
   same principle; uppercase *A*, /A/ and _A_ should be recognisable as
   *pictograms* representing the first letter of the Latin alphabet.
   There is a reason why signs read EXIT and not Exit at
   international airports - and also why those are progressively being
   replaced by symbolised person/arrow/door.
  
   Just thoughts.
  
   Sveinn
  
 
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[libreoffice-design] Fwd: aus ToDo: Designkonzept Download

2012-03-16 Thread Daniel Steyer
Hello everybody,


as you know, my english is very back. so i dry to say it in some sentences:
i made some concepts for the download page on libreoffice.org. today it is
not really good. i dry to make it very clean and without too many
functions. but some of them (like download instructions) are important
but not in the concept. it's only for the first over-view.
i know i'm not the best designer but maybe there are some ideas in which
you can use.
i sent it to the german mail list, too. they think, it is slaying.


I look forward to your opinions
Daniel


http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/big/dmnf-2i-2a38.png


and for writer-only-download (if it is upcoming, i don't know)

http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/big/dmnf-2j-7647.png
http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/big/dmnf-2l-5422.png
http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/big/dmnf-2k-8613.png

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