Re: [libreoffice-design] a question about adjusting the width of table in Writer
Hello Phelostor, The default table setting is extending the table horizontally to the left and to the right page margins, and in Table Format dialog when I need to set specific width of the table, I have to change the Alignment option first, then the check box of Width could be available. I just stumbled upon this, too, during normal work with LibreOffice. It's not extremely intuitive and I believe it would be good to at least make the influence of the Alignment options clearer. Would you mind opening a bug for this? (Preferably with some concrete idea(s) how to solve this.) See here: https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/bug/ (I'd be personally interested in the bug number.) Next... the easiest way to resize a table is to use the rulers/table borders. Making the rulers/borders work in a better way (more information, more exactitude, maybe snapping) is probably an even better way to cope with the problem. Astron. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-design] Color Picker mock up
Hello I just uploaded some mock ups for the color picker[1]. The first mock up is not mine it was hidden so I unhid it. Tell me what you thinks. Cheers Andrew [1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/Color_picker -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Color Picker mock up
Hi, 'Standard' should be a drop-down menu which would let the user selct from several palettes Otherwise, its looking good Alex Am 20.03.2012 14:09, schrieb Andrew Pullins: Hello I just uploaded some mock ups for the color picker[1]. The first mock up is not mine it was hidden so I unhid it. Tell me what you thinks. Cheers Andrew [1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/Color_picker -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-design] Re: Better branding (was: Re: Towards useful icon themes)
Hi Astron, You wrote Mar 06, 2012: The question with that still is, if Vista/7 will accept the extra icon, I guess. I think about this problem: 1. 96_pixels pictures are not created. Windows-OS do not use this size. Windows Vista and 7 make less 256px.png view of the icon to the size of 96 pixels. Some of the icons (256px.png) are then blurred. 2. Create a new 256px.svg is not necessary. 256px.png can be drawn from 128px.svg. We must set the Bitmap size pixel at = 180 dpi when we export 128px.png in the bitmap and we get 256px.png after that. ape -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Better-branding-was-Re-Towards-useful-icon-themes-tp3788930p3839916.html Sent from the Design mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Wanted! Moderators for this mailing list :-)
Hi Mirek, Kévin, Jay! Wow, thanks a lot for your really quick (and positive) replies concerning the moderator question. Since you three answered mostly independently, I'll answer commenting my own mail ... :-) Personally, I think having three moderators in total is very fine for this kind of list (medium volume). One of the reasons is, that every moderator will be noticed about pending mails ... so work might be doubled in rare cases. So I propose (please object if you think that is wrong) to add Mirek and Kévin (being the first two who replied). Jay, thanks a lot for your offer as well! The next steps are: I will send a mail with your names attached to the moderator list. One one the admins will take care that you get added - then you will get mails from the mailing list system containing the message of the (unsubscribed) poster. If everything is clean (subject, poster address, content - if readable - because there are sometimes strange encoding issues) then you reply to this mail to let it go through. It would also be helpful to send a mail to the poster to tell him that he isn't subscribed - so he won't notice any replies to his mail (because these will go to the mailing list only). Furthermore, you'll get added to the internal moderators list. Very rarely, it is meant to inform you about updates / or you might get in touch with other moderators. Again, thanks for joining! Christoph Am Donnerstag, den 15.03.2012, 21:40 +0100 schrieb Christoph Noack: Hi everyone, I'm currently too lazy to send mails to this list, but others are not (and this is great to see) ;-) As a consequence, it happens that non-subscribed posters do send mails to this list - those mails need to wait in the moderation queue. Since I've noticed that I'm not on my computer every day, help for the moderation stuff is highly appreciated. After Bernhard left, I'm the only one moderating those mails ... and therefore some kind of single point-of-failure. So is there anybody willing to jump in as well? I think one or two people joining would be cool! Currently we have approx. 5 ... 10 mails / week - so no worry about the workload. Quite the opposite - if mails get through quicker and posters are informed earlier about the required subscription, it really eases communication. And moderating is rather simple - the mailing list system sends a mail and asks for a reply. If send, it gets through, and if you don't reply, then ... okay you've got the point. Thanks! Cheers, Christoph -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Wanted! Moderators for this mailing list :-)
Hi Christoph It's great to be able to help this list to live ! Kévin 2012/3/20 Christoph Noack christ...@dogmatux.com Hi Mirek, Kévin, Jay! Wow, thanks a lot for your really quick (and positive) replies concerning the moderator question. Since you three answered mostly independently, I'll answer commenting my own mail ... :-) Personally, I think having three moderators in total is very fine for this kind of list (medium volume). One of the reasons is, that every moderator will be noticed about pending mails ... so work might be doubled in rare cases. So I propose (please object if you think that is wrong) to add Mirek and Kévin (being the first two who replied). Jay, thanks a lot for your offer as well! The next steps are: I will send a mail with your names attached to the moderator list. One one the admins will take care that you get added - then you will get mails from the mailing list system containing the message of the (unsubscribed) poster. If everything is clean (subject, poster address, content - if readable - because there are sometimes strange encoding issues) then you reply to this mail to let it go through. It would also be helpful to send a mail to the poster to tell him that he isn't subscribed - so he won't notice any replies to his mail (because these will go to the mailing list only). Furthermore, you'll get added to the internal moderators list. Very rarely, it is meant to inform you about updates / or you might get in touch with other moderators. Again, thanks for joining! Christoph Am Donnerstag, den 15.03.2012, 21:40 +0100 schrieb Christoph Noack: Hi everyone, I'm currently too lazy to send mails to this list, but others are not (and this is great to see) ;-) As a consequence, it happens that non-subscribed posters do send mails to this list - those mails need to wait in the moderation queue. Since I've noticed that I'm not on my computer every day, help for the moderation stuff is highly appreciated. After Bernhard left, I'm the only one moderating those mails ... and therefore some kind of single point-of-failure. So is there anybody willing to jump in as well? I think one or two people joining would be cool! Currently we have approx. 5 ... 10 mails / week - so no worry about the workload. Quite the opposite - if mails get through quicker and posters are informed earlier about the required subscription, it really eases communication. And moderating is rather simple - the mailing list system sends a mail and asks for a reply. If send, it gets through, and if you don't reply, then ... okay you've got the point. Thanks! Cheers, Christoph -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] LibreOffice Design team IRC chat
Hi all! Cool idea to organize that IRC meeting ... but first, here are some other thoughts I've had when reading your mail. Am Montag, den 19.03.2012, 20:46 +0100 schrieb Mirek M.: 2012/3/19 Stefan Knorr (Astron) heinzless...@googlemail.com Hi Mirek, I've had a conversation with Alexander Wilms on IRC today and we've decided that it would be productive if the whole Design team could meet on the IRC to discuss relevant LibreOffice UI/design topics. We could start with the Actually, it would be a great idea if we could meet on IRC on a weekly/bi-weekly basis. Maybe name it something like Let's talk design. (which conveniently abbreviates to Ltd.) and set (a) topic(s) before we meet. How do you feel about that? Looking back, the OOo IRC meetings have been quite nice ... although usually only few people joined. Here is some stuff to get an idea what worked well: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Renaissance:Status_Meetings [...] Secondly, there already is a Whiteboard on the topic that Christoph started some time ago with many pointers to bugs etc – see [1]. I guess we should use that. OK. The page looks like it needs a bit of clean-up, though -- for example, why are suggestions listed under Current state, and what is the point of Further information? Oh, thanks for referring to this Whiteboard - it really needs some cleanup, since some people already started to work on some issues (maybe causing other issues *g*) - that's documented in Bugzilla. Concerning suggestions under Current state - I seem to miss them. Maybe you're referring to the evaluation of the today's behavior. Proposals and such stuff is handled in the Draft Area. The point of Further information was to have a section to add stuff that fits nowhere else - but I never had such info, so it can go. Thirdly, often times we miss the basis for what we do here. With everyone going into the direction of touch-friendliness here, it's easy to steer LibreOffice into even larger inconsistency. What we need, clearly is some sort of HIG, else we might actually make LibreOffice worse. This is not to say that we need a completely new HIG, but we need to either copy/paste the pieces we like from others (it still need s to be conherent) or need to adapt a pre-existing one that covers what we need. OK. I started a wiki page for it [1]. It's a good topic for our upcoming IRC chat -- we'll put items in the Tentative design section only after we've discussed them. [...] [1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/Human_Interface_Guidelines Some time ago, I made such a list on my personal page - would it be helpful to move the table there? http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:ChristophNoack/Temporary_Work_Space Cheers, Christoph -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Wanted! Moderators for this mailing list :-)
On 03/20/2012 05:09 PM, Christoph Noack wrote: Hi Mirek, Kévin, Jay! Wow, thanks a lot for your really quick (and positive) replies concerning the moderator question. Since you three answered mostly independently, I'll answer commenting my own mail ... :-) Personally, I think having three moderators in total is very fine for this kind of list (medium volume). One of the reasons is, that every moderator will be noticed about pending mails ... so work might be doubled in rare cases. So I propose (please object if you think that is wrong) to add Mirek and Kévin (being the first two who replied). Jay, thanks a lot for your offer as well! The next steps are: I will send a mail with your names attached to the moderator list. One one the admins will take care that you get added - then you will get mails from the mailing list system containing the message of the (unsubscribed) poster. If everything is clean (subject, poster address, content - if readable - because there are sometimes strange encoding issues) then you reply to this mail to let it go through. It would also be helpful to send a mail to the poster to tell him that he isn't subscribed - so he won't notice any replies to his mail (because these will go to the mailing list only). Furthermore, you'll get added to the internal moderators list. Very rarely, it is meant to inform you about updates / or you might get in touch with other moderators. Again, thanks for joining! Christoph You're welcome, glad to help! Am Donnerstag, den 15.03.2012, 21:40 +0100 schrieb Christoph Noack: Hi everyone, I'm currently too lazy to send mails to this list, but others are not (and this is great to see) ;-) As a consequence, it happens that non-subscribed posters do send mails to this list - those mails need to wait in the moderation queue. Since I've noticed that I'm not on my computer every day, help for the moderation stuff is highly appreciated. After Bernhard left, I'm the only one moderating those mails ... and therefore some kind of single point-of-failure. So is there anybody willing to jump in as well? I think one or two people joining would be cool! Currently we have approx. 5 ... 10 mails / week - so no worry about the workload. Quite the opposite - if mails get through quicker and posters are informed earlier about the required subscription, it really eases communication. And moderating is rather simple - the mailing list system sends a mail and asks for a reply. If send, it gets through, and if you don't reply, then ... okay you've got the point. Thanks! Cheers, Christoph -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Color Picker mock up
Alexander, 'Standard' should be a drop-down menu which would let the user selct from several palettes The hole thing is a drop down, so why should standard be a drop down. Standard is just the most common colors that a user would choose from. Then there are more colors in a gradient and custom colors. Having a drop down in a drop down seems like unneeded work. Too many clicks. Cheers Andrew -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Wanted! Moderators for this mailing list :-)
Christoph Personally, I think having three moderators in total is very fine for this kind of list (medium volume). One of the reasons is, that every moderator will be noticed about pending mails ... so work might be doubled in rare cases. if it is a rare case then why should there be a monitor. that seems like a waist of someones time. some times we have had to duplicate emails to get more discussion out of people. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-design] First Tabbed Interface Mockup
Hello everyone. I have been working on a simple mockup for tabs in LibreOffice. I checked some past suggestions in Bugzilla for tabs in LO. LO and Office 2007 (along with 2010) have support for tabs but only with add-ons. I think that implementing tabs into LO would help attract more users. The convenience of having multiple tabs in one window instead of having to shift between several separate windows is a feature which I feel would be appreciated by many users. I have used Office Tabs and despite it being rather limited it improved my user experience with Office 2007 by allowing me to easily shift between several documents. Some potential ideas: * Tab positioning _ Positions tabs at the top, bottom, left, or right of the page; controlled according to what the user wants Pro: Tab position is left in control of the user so that zie can show zir's tabs in location most convenient to user Con: Could potentially overshadow panels (if implemented) * List tabs button _ Shows all tabs which are open in the current application; Useful for when 4+ tabs (at least) are in use Pro: Multiple tabs easily seen by user without having to take up too much screen space Con: Tab list could end up excessively long and require scrolling on part of user *Sort tab order _ Order of tabs controlled by mouse (click-and-drag), touch (touch-and-drag), or keyboard command Pro: Tab order easily shifted around by user at zir's convenience Con: Not sure how to implement for visually impaired users Later on this week I'll do a mockup using the Citrus UI images. Any feedback is much appreciated. https://docs.google.com/open?id=0BzbVEiGiz0dnS3paaHMzeEtUUU96aFZWMVBoMzFnUQ ~ Maggie -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
