Hi all! Am Montag, den 27.07.2015, 15:19 +0000 schrieb Heiko Tietze: > To start the discussion I prepared a pad with the basics (needs some > work though) and two alternative workflows/designs with mockups. > Please comment the hell out of these ideas (either comment via speech > bubble icon or just add text). Perhaps it's good to have a hangout > too... > > http://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/UX-PrintDialog
Thanks! I've added some remarks and commented issue #67905. > I add Christoph as the usability expert of the previous/current > layout. Initial question is here > http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/msg07254.html Well, to me, the described issues are based on / caused by a combination of (statements based on PPP "printerpullpages" work - see extensive documentation at [1]): * I was told (by the former developer) that OOo is unable to directly connect with certain printer settings (e.g. page format) / information (e.g. printer status). Rationale: Effort for handling different platforms and individual printer (drivers). * Due to LibO's complexity and complexity of printing in general (e.g. handling page style related page settings incl. printer tray VS. single separate printer setting) we run into a number of issues. First ideas to address these issues (e.g. inform the user) have been deferred/altered due to developer time constraints - see proposals [2] and [3]. * Due to limited resources, the harmonization of different printer related features has been (guess what, sigh) deferred. For example: * "File - Printer Settings" still exists (looking and behaving totally different). * "Tools - Options... - LibreOffice - Print Options" * Print options (e.g. for Writer) are only partly saved in documents and therefore only partly restored. See the initial analysis at [4] (and [5]). Hasn't been addressed yet (guess why :-). * Add some bugs (e.g. on my system, specifying "A3" in the page style, using the printer setting "A4", finally results in "Letter" shown above the preview in the printer dialog) All adds up to a messy printing experience for quite some use cases (although I still think that PPP was a step in the right direction). > Am 19.07.2015 23:28:56, schrieb Thorsten Behrens: > > Heiko Tietze wrote: > > > What's your schedule, Katarina? Do we have as much time as the prior > > > art took? > > > > > Let's put it that way - the current attention of that topic could be > > used for some quick iterative improvements. ;) Some quick improvements will help, but I think we have to discuss how LibO handles printing UI wise (the print dialog being only one part in the game). I'm happy to add some proposals (after getting some sleep) - just tell me if there is still interest. Cheers, Christoph [1] Printerpullpages Overview https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Printerpullpages [2] Idea for showing "print related issues" https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Printerpullpages/ContextualInformation [3] Idea for showing "page size issues" https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/File:2009-12-06_PrintingDialog_Idea_ShowPageSize1.png [4] Print settings stored in files https://wiki.openoffice.org/w/images/3/3e/Current_PrintingOptions_SettingsInDocumentFiles.odt [5] Dialog options / controls overview https://wiki.openoffice.org/w/images/e/e2/Current_Dialogs_ListOfAllPrintDialogElements.ods -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
