Re: [libreoffice-design] [Fwd: [Bug 41000] FILEOPEN - Filter Selection dialog needs structure and preselection]

2011-09-20 Thread Kévin PEIGNOT
Hy everyone !

 * (2) You're referring to "Document" ... tough question. I don't
>know whether "Document Type" (left side) and "File Format" is an
>improvement.
>
I agree

 * (3) I also like "Open" better, since it clearly says what will
>happen - much better than OK. By the way, the very last dialog
>styleguide (attempt) put the Help on the left side ...
>
I agree too


>  * The dialog has now a very good structure - but might it be
>convenient for people to have an "All" on the left side that
>contains all file types?
>
I think it is for one reason. Sometimes (not often I think), people get
presention files (example), and they not always know what it is : Someone
can have sent it to them without explaining "Hy it's a presentation" or "Hy,
it's a text document". THey just get the document. Just for this reason, and
because I think it should'nt be very complicated to add, I think there
should be an "Any" section on the left.

Then, I think it's important to choose the order of the items in the two
parts (it can reduce the amount of time to find the good format) : I think
that order them by "popularity" is good :

Document type part:

- Text Document
- Spreadsheet Slideshow
- Presentation Slideshow
- Web Document
- Drawing
- Formula

File format part :
- Open Document
- Microsoft Word 2003 xml (.doc)
- Microsoft Word 2007 (.docx)

As you can see, I indicate file extension as it's always significant for a
lot of people.


Kévin

PS : Scuse for my so bad English... Like a lot of French people, I'm not
bright with other languages.

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Re: [libreoffice-design] [Fwd: [Bug 41000] FILEOPEN - Filter Selection dialog needs structure and preselection]

2011-09-20 Thread Christoph Noack
Hi Astron, hi all!

Astron, thanks a lot for picking this up :-) Very cool mockup ... how
did you make it - it looks like being a LibO native one.

https://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=51412

May I comment your numbered notes?
  * (1) Yep, usually LibO tries to be rather neutral ... the OOo
style guide LibO is based on doesn't say it directly, but
comments decisions with stuff like the "style is clear and
professional, not chummy or informal".
  * (2) You're referring to "Document" ... tough question. I don't
know whether "Document Type" (left side) and "File Format" is an
improvement.
  * (3) I also like "Open" better, since it clearly says what will
happen - much better than OK. By the way, the very last dialog
styleguide (attempt) put the Help on the left side ...

Additionally:
  * I'm thinking about the window title. Gnome says "Name of command
that opened the dialog", but that doesn't work here. Maybe "File
Format Selection" explains what it is about?
  * The dialog has now a very good structure - but might it be
convenient for people to have an "All" on the left side that
contains all file types?

Thanks a lot!

First and last mail for today, since my day has been incredibly busy ...
see you tomorrow. Hopefully :-)

Cheers,
Christoph


Am Montag, den 19.09.2011, 22:30 +0200 schrieb Christoph Noack:
> Hi all,
> 
> since I lack some time ... could anybody pick this up and work out a
> straightforward proposal? That would be cool!
> 
> Personally, I don't know what the technical constraints are, so you
> might need to ask the developers what kind of information is available
> by the filters (their capabilities, e.g. "I'm a pixel graphics filter.")
> 
> Cheers,
> Christoph
> 
> 
>  Weitergeleitete Nachricht 
> > Von: bugzilla-dae...@freedesktop.org
> > An: christoph.spamfo...@dogmatux.com
> > Betreff: [Bug 41000] FILEOPEN - Filter Selection dialog needs
> > structure and preselection
> > Datum: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 05:34:58 -0700 (PDT)
> > 
> > https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41000
> > 
> > Rainer Bielefeld  changed:
> > 
> >What|Removed |Added
> > 
> > Summary|FILEOPEN - Filter Selection |FILEOPEN - Filter Selection
> >|dialog too overwhelming,|dialog needs structure and
> >|not user-friendly   |preselection
> > Version|LibO 3.4.3 release  |LibO 3.3.0 Beta2
> >   Status Whiteboard||CONFIRMED
> >Severity|normal  |enhancement
> >  CC||christoph.spamforme@dogmatu
> >||x.com,
> >||LibreOffice@bielefeldundbus
> >||s.de
> > 
> > --- Comment #2 from Rainer Bielefeld  
> > 2011-09-19 05:34:57 PDT ---
> > That is some OOo heritage. Indeed, sort order is without any cognizable 
> > order
> > and too long. 
> > 
> > There should be sort order and a preselector "show only xyz documents" for
> > particular file types leaving an option to see the complete list.
> > 
> > @christoph:
> > Have there ever been thoughts concerning this dialog?
> > 
> 
> 
> 



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[libreoffice-design] [Fwd: [Bug 41000] FILEOPEN - Filter Selection dialog needs structure and preselection]

2011-09-19 Thread Christoph Noack
Hi all,

since I lack some time ... could anybody pick this up and work out a
straightforward proposal? That would be cool!

Personally, I don't know what the technical constraints are, so you
might need to ask the developers what kind of information is available
by the filters (their capabilities, e.g. "I'm a pixel graphics filter.")

Cheers,
Christoph


 Weitergeleitete Nachricht 
> Von: bugzilla-dae...@freedesktop.org
> An: christoph.spamfo...@dogmatux.com
> Betreff: [Bug 41000] FILEOPEN - Filter Selection dialog needs
> structure and preselection
> Datum: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 05:34:58 -0700 (PDT)
> 
> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41000
> 
> Rainer Bielefeld  changed:
> 
>What|Removed |Added
> 
> Summary|FILEOPEN - Filter Selection |FILEOPEN - Filter Selection
>|dialog too overwhelming,|dialog needs structure and
>|not user-friendly   |preselection
> Version|LibO 3.4.3 release  |LibO 3.3.0 Beta2
>   Status Whiteboard||CONFIRMED
>Severity|normal  |enhancement
>  CC||christoph.spamforme@dogmatu
>||x.com,
>||LibreOffice@bielefeldundbus
>||s.de
> 
> --- Comment #2 from Rainer Bielefeld  
> 2011-09-19 05:34:57 PDT ---
> That is some OOo heritage. Indeed, sort order is without any cognizable order
> and too long. 
> 
> There should be sort order and a preselector "show only xyz documents" for
> particular file types leaving an option to see the complete list.
> 
> @christoph:
> Have there ever been thoughts concerning this dialog?
> 



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