Re: [libreoffice-design] Fwd: [Bug 34896] [EasyHack] Color palette: number of columns

2011-03-05 Thread Hillar Liiv
o me its is easier to good color palette and it's works in every UI element
same way.



2011/3/5 Christoph Noack 

> Hi Hillar,
>
> just a quick reply ... without that much thought ;-)
>
>
> Am Samstag, den 05.03.2011, 12:16 +0200 schrieb Hillar Liiv:
> > Here is one bug report to change "Color palette: number of columns"
> > everywhere constant (same number colums/row to make creating palettes
> > easier).
> >
> > Which way to go?
> >
> > - change to 8x12
> > - change to 10x11
>
> To ask another question: What problem will be solved with that change?
>
> In the first step, consistency is usually an improvement, so that our
> users are not forced to re-think when using an almost identical control
> element (color palette). But does it ease to create / provide color
> palettes?
>

To me it is easier to make good color palette with constant UI.

Color palettes are created for different purposes, e.g. because the
> company colors are A, B, and C. So - from the user's / company's
> perspective - these guys won't add additional colors to fill the palette
> because one of their tools (amongst others) works that way :-)
>

Thats other issue and I think that there should be to add empty caps.

So my first statement is, that there is a need to reconsider the color
> choosers anyway. Because:
>  * We have additional vertical color selections (list with color
>names, e.g. when selecting a background color via toolbar)
>  * Changing palettes / colors is currently a nightmare
>  * ...
>

We need better way to handle multiple color palette.
Probably something like there:
http://t6uni.deviantart.com/art/OOo-color-palette-mockup-183868039


> Concerning your initial question - I would go for 8x12 if we don't cause
> scrollbars within the usual dialogs when a few additional colors are
> added. My rationale: In the old days of EGA graphics, there have been
> color pallets with 16 colors (or advanced: 64 colors). Even today, many
> of the color palettes start with these basic colors - so they get shown
> in two rows which makes them distinct in the dialog.
>
>
I hope that showing in too rows is not so big problem if they don't mix with
other colors... then 8x12 is better option.

> Bug report is here:
> > https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34896
>
> Thanks! Could you please take care to sum up the discussion (if there
> are any more thoughts on that) and add this to the issue?
>
> Cheers,
> Christoph
>
>
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Re: [libreoffice-design] Fwd: [Bug 34896] [EasyHack] Color palette: number of columns

2011-03-05 Thread Christoph Noack
Hi Hillar,

just a quick reply ... without that much thought ;-)


Am Samstag, den 05.03.2011, 12:16 +0200 schrieb Hillar Liiv:
> Here is one bug report to change "Color palette: number of columns"
> everywhere constant (same number colums/row to make creating palettes
> easier).
>
> Which way to go?
> 
> - change to 8x12
> - change to 10x11

To ask another question: What problem will be solved with that change?

In the first step, consistency is usually an improvement, so that our
users are not forced to re-think when using an almost identical control
element (color palette). But does it ease to create / provide color
palettes?

Color palettes are created for different purposes, e.g. because the
company colors are A, B, and C. So - from the user's / company's
perspective - these guys won't add additional colors to fill the palette
because one of their tools (amongst others) works that way :-)

So my first statement is, that there is a need to reconsider the color
choosers anyway. Because:
  * We have additional vertical color selections (list with color
names, e.g. when selecting a background color via toolbar)
  * Changing palettes / colors is currently a nightmare
  * ...

Concerning your initial question - I would go for 8x12 if we don't cause
scrollbars within the usual dialogs when a few additional colors are
added. My rationale: In the old days of EGA graphics, there have been
color pallets with 16 colors (or advanced: 64 colors). Even today, many
of the color palettes start with these basic colors - so they get shown
in two rows which makes them distinct in the dialog.

> Bug report is here:
> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34896

Thanks! Could you please take care to sum up the discussion (if there
are any more thoughts on that) and add this to the issue?

Cheers,
Christoph


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[libreoffice-design] Fwd: [Bug 34896] [EasyHack] Color palette: number of columns

2011-03-05 Thread Hillar Liiv
Hi,

Here is one bug report to change "Color palette: number of columns"
everywhere constant (same number colums/row to make creating palettes
easier).

Which way to go?

- change to 8x12
- change to 10x11

Bug report is here:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34896


Hillar

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