Having been away from WMF engineering and design for almost a year, I'd
like to reiterate how what Ryan is outlining is not some bold outlandish
idea. In fact, it's standard operating procedure for how the top tier of
product development is done at every non-enterprise software company worth
a
Yes, the people working on Flow have mastered wiki text talk pages. One of
the engineers is User:Superm401, an admin on enwiki, and the product
manager is Danny Horn, who has been a regular MediaWiki user for years.
As a meta point, you don't actually need to be a hardcore power user of any
The CEO announced on Quora ;-)
http://qr.ae/jFd21
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to focus on getting
those through - are there any teams currently needing these or is this
likely to be a 20% type project?
Rather than restyle more elements, let's just reduce scope rather than
cause creep.
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enough on the UX
side to more seriously request Jared is pushing them to Bugzilla.
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On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 4:46 PM, Steven Walling
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the minimum viable release for updating
Preferences to match mw.ui styles. This will provide the most benefit with
the least effort.
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Whether we change to follow this pattern needs to validated with users
before we attempt to standardize on it. If we're going to completely flip
the order of our actions on forms then we need to demonstrate that it's
worth it.
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hard to
evaluate how the mobile view stands up over sustained use on desktop.
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the preferences. This is easy to rectify
though if you wanted us to.
Yeah but that's not persistent across views right?
Tomasz: thanks for the tip. I'll give it a spin. ;)
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Feature we don't intend to graduate.
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form with mw.ui controls, the inconsistent style
of placeholders, and lots more.
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https://trello.com/c/8FOi1X1x and
https://trello.com/c/4TfdOik8. Let's update so at least we're using the
plain sans-serif, so the user is not getting a mix of different sans-serifs
on one form.
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where, if you have JS off and
you hit Enter instead of clicking the submit button, you get sent to
search. Ugh. Filing now...
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of hypothetical future improvements.
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these teams.
Something like this would be good for a shared library. In our
retrospectives (notes at Growth/Retrospectives on mediawiki.org) we already
committed to giving people a heads up about large mediawiki.ui changes
before we submit them, so that y'all can comment.
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. These are viewable at
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crocodilia?gettingStartedReturn=true if
you're logged in
D. See style guide:
http://tools.wmflabs.org/styleguide/desktop/section-2.html
E.
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Anonymous_editor_acquisition/Signup_invites_v2#Version_two
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a look at it.
Thanks for the heads up. We'll definitely take a look.
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effect this had on
their acceptance of the changes in the end.
Yeah, I mean in the end the English Wikipedia complaints died off too.
There isn't any more discussion on the Village Pump technical or anywhere
else that I can see.
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in favor of opposing a change.
Rather, we should remind the community members who are seeing this for the
first time that this was not a sudden change, but one that has been
building for months.
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This is relevant to the mediawiki.ui questions that have come up about when
to use the destructive button class.
Full discussion at:
https://ux.stackexchange.com/questions/49991/should-yes-delete-it-be-red-or-green/
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this on mediawiki.org, on a CodeEditor extension doc.
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according to WCAG guidelines.[1]
1.
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Typography_refresh#Why_did_we_change_the_body_text_color.3F
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to undo the changes by editing my own CSS
stylesheets? And if so, can you point me to a file I would need to look up
to do it?
Yes, you'll need to edit your stylesheets. Do you just want to change the
body text color back to pure black? I can show you how to do that really
easily.
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in.
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feature does. I don't think it's yet a part of the usability tests.
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, and
people are encouraged to hack the site CSS however they like on a third
party install or as needed locally through Common.css or personal CSS.
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a solution that doesn't involve throwing an inactionable
warning in the user's face and making them perform a confirmation step. The
solution being proposed to the problem currently is worse than the
current experience.
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not notice or care about such alterations.
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about that one
line of CSS is not really a discussion about the actual experience on our
sites.
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is to deliver a webfont, which most people with good design sense
are doing these days, and we can't yet.
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and MediaWiki's status as FOSS, by not
distributing nor creating a dependency on any proprietary software
*whatsoever*. Thank you, CSS font-family property and fallbacks.
That all sounds like a pretty good way to maintain freedom while improving
readability and consistency to me.
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reach. The question isn't are there good free fonts? the question is can
we deliver good free fonts to all users?. I'll try to help the UX team
document the answer better.
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taking a different path?
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On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 11:49 AM, Yuvi Panda yuvipa...@gmail.com wrote:
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Also: we need to resolve the left-hand versus right-hand close (X) icon,
if
we're talking about desktop consistency. Almost every desktop web
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as to remove it on scroll, then that has pretty wide
implications for our branding I think.
Winter is coming, (I couldn't resist the Game of Thrones reference.)
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of
notifications). This would also have the advantage of potentially letting
us remove the section edit links, and just carry one prominent edit link in
the toolbar, where ever you are on a page.
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opened
- Variable type sizing (see the cog icon for settings)
- Content recommendations in a carousel at the top of the page
- Navigating in a category of pages using left and right swiping.
(Personally I think they will regret this one. People hate it so.)
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until this Thursday. You can see some
of the latest changes by using the beta on mediawiki.org, but we're
actually making a few final tweaks as we speak this afternoon. For a
comprehensive list of what will change, see the link I posted above.
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yet. This will reduce confused questions. ;)
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in the
background, it's changed to 'Abarfmonster' because usernames are page
titles technically speaking and thus must start with a capital.
The same happens with trailing whitespace, etc. What's being proposed is
that we warn users and make them confirm their choice.
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When you say *all of Wikipedia* does it include all languages of
Wikipedia?
Oui, ce qui est nécessaire.
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how it works or doesn't for
everyday use.
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