Re: [libreoffice-design] Proposition to combine the Apply/Reset buttons

2011-04-25 Thread Astron
Hey Ricardo,      * What happens for different objects with the same properties        dialog? For example, the user edits Text Style 1 and does some        changes. Well, right now this is not possible: when you open the first dialogue everything else in the UI gets immediately locked so

Re: [libreoffice-design] Proposition to combine the Apply/Reset buttons

2011-04-25 Thread RGB ES
2011/4/25 Astron heinzless...@googlemail.com: Hey Ricardo,      * What happens for different objects with the same properties        dialog? For example, the user edits Text Style 1 and does some        changes. Well, right now this is not possible: when you open the first dialogue

[libreoffice-design] Questions about style name

2011-04-25 Thread Michel RENON
Hi, Few days ago, there was a discussion about the style name : http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/msg01436.html As I've been teaching the basic of OpenOffice 2 or 3 years ago, I can confirm that the idea of style sheet is not obvious. But it seems to me that the name style sheet

Re: [libreoffice-design] New Whiteboards section in the Wiki

2011-04-25 Thread Michel RENON
Hi Christoph, Hi all, Le 20/04/11 21:09, Christoph Noack a écrit : Hi all, I felt free to add a section Whiteboards to the wiki - simply because of the fact that I needed a space where I could put something in-between idea collection and final specification. So if you have anything you are

Re: [libreoffice-design] special process for urgent ux items ?

2011-04-25 Thread RGB ES
2011/4/25 Michel RENON michel.re...@free.fr: Hi, As a LibreOffice user, I feel changes are too slow... ;-) So, beside the current organisation of UX group, I asked myself if it be possible to work on urgent/easy items ? The idea would be to (try to) resolve some UI/UX problems in

[libreoffice-design] Re: Little problem with the Vegur font

2011-04-25 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2011-04-25 04:47, drew a écrit : Alright well my feedback is that this isn't going so well. I installed the file referenced in the email, under Linux 64bt (Ubuntu) GNOME (a few times - with and without the old vegur files on the system) Results [GIMP and InkScape] - only light font is

Re: [libreoffice-design] Questions about style name

2011-04-25 Thread RGB ES
2011/4/25 Michel RENON michel.re...@free.fr: Hi, Few days ago, there was a discussion about the style name : http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/msg01436.html As I've been teaching the basic of OpenOffice 2 or 3 years ago, I can confirm that the idea of style sheet is not

[libreoffice-design] Re: special process for urgent ux items ?

2011-04-25 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2011-04-25 06:57, Michel RENON a écrit : Hi, As a LibreOffice user, I feel changes are too slow... ;-) So, beside the current organisation of UX group, I asked myself if it be possible to work on urgent/easy items ? The idea would be to (try to) resolve some UI/UX problems in LibreOffice

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Little problem with the Vegur font

2011-04-25 Thread Bernhard Dippold
Hi Drew, all, drew schrieb: On Sun, 2011-04-24 at 23:16 +0200, Christoph Noack wrote: Hi Drew, hi Astron! [...] Hillar was so kind and adapted some characters - he provided it here: http://www.mail-archive.com/design@libreoffice.org/msg00468.html Could you please install it and provide

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Little problem with the Vegur font

2011-04-25 Thread drew
On Mon, 2011-04-25 at 13:54 +0200, Bernhard Dippold wrote: snip The OTF link (http://ubuntuone.com/p/Zmf/) is called Medium, but the properties describe them as Light. I thought I installed four different files, but I can't find them again. I have those. Nevertheless you're right: The

Re: [libreoffice-design] special process for urgent ux items ?

2011-04-25 Thread Christoph Noack
Hi all, thanks for caring about that :-) Am Montag, den 25.04.2011, 12:57 +0200 schrieb Michel RENON: [...Small Changes to improve LibreOffice ...] There is already a proposal list fo GSOC 2011: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Gsoc/Ideas#UI_cleanup To add some ideas, we can

[libreoffice-design] Re: special process for urgent ux items ?

2011-04-25 Thread Marc Paré
Hi Christoph Le 2011-04-25 08:18, Christoph Noack a écrit : Wow, nice list! It is very complete. One thing that I find lacking (unless I have missed it) is how the design team documents the work in progress and a wiki page detailing the approved design elements for community use. I always

[libreoffice-design] Re: Little problem with the Vegur font

2011-04-25 Thread Marc Paré
Hi Bernhard Le 2011-04-25 07:54, Bernhard Dippold a écrit : It seems that the font doesn't only contain the Light version - otherwise the bold characters would be calculated from the light ones without losing them in Bold. But for the moment this font is not able to be used in languages with

[libreoffice-design] Take inspiration from Lotus Symphony ?

2011-04-25 Thread Cyril Arnaud
Hi, I am currently wondering which office suite I should recommend to my customers : Symphony or LibreOffice. As far as I can tell there is no difference between the two in terms of performance. But in term of interface and usability it's a different story. After using Symphony for few days, I

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Little problem with the Vegur font

2011-04-25 Thread Bernhard Dippold
Hi Marc, * Marc Paré schrieb: Hi Bernhard [...] So, should we then advise the different language marketing groups to make use of the Mplus fonts for their design and content until the Vegur font work is completed? Why should we just not adopt and improve on the Mplus font set instead of

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: special process for urgent ux items ?

2011-04-25 Thread Christoph Noack
Hi Marc, all! Am Montag, den 25.04.2011, 09:21 -0400 schrieb Marc Paré: Hi Christoph Le 2011-04-25 08:18, Christoph Noack a écrit : Wow, nice list! It is very complete. Oh no :-) I'm having finished clustering and moving stuff by about 35% ... the other guys here provided sooo much

[libreoffice-design] Re: special process for urgent ux items ?

2011-04-25 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2011-04-25 10:31, Christoph Noack a écrit : Marc, it would be great if you could have a look at the list later ... once we moved it. I plan to ask for a review with you all - nothing (important) should be missed, everything should be understandable, and we should also avoid working on stuff

Re: [libreoffice-design] Take inspiration from Lotus Symphony ?

2011-04-25 Thread Christoph Noack
Hi Cyril! Am Montag, den 25.04.2011, 09:58 -0400 schrieb Cyril Arnaud: Hi, I am currently wondering which office suite I should recommend to my customers : Symphony or LibreOffice. As far as I can tell there is no difference between the two in terms of performance. Mmh, in terms of speed we

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Little problem with the Vegur font

2011-04-25 Thread drew
On Mon, 2011-04-25 at 16:17 +0200, Bernhard Dippold wrote: Hi Marc, * Marc Paré schrieb: Hi Bernhard [...] So, should we then advise the different language marketing groups to make use of the Mplus fonts for their design and content until the Vegur font work is completed? Why

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Little problem with the Vegur font

2011-04-25 Thread RGB ES
2011/4/25 drew d...@baseanswers.com: On Mon, 2011-04-25 at 16:17 +0200, Bernhard Dippold wrote: Hi Marc, * Marc Paré schrieb: Hi Bernhard [...] So, should we then advise the different language marketing groups to make use of the Mplus fonts for their design and content until the

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Little problem with the Vegur font

2011-04-25 Thread RGB ES
2011/4/25 RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com: Indeed! I'll do a first review for the later today. Thanks again, Drew! I mean, a first review for the text -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Little problem with the Vegur font

2011-04-25 Thread RGB ES
2011/4/25 drew d...@baseanswers.com: On Mon, 2011-04-25 at 17:17 +0200, RGB ES wrote: 2011/4/25 drew d...@baseanswers.com: On Mon, 2011-04-25 at 16:17 +0200, Bernhard Dippold wrote: Hi Marc, * Marc Paré schrieb: Hi Bernhard [...] So, should we then advise the different

[libreoffice-design] Re: Little problem with the Vegur font

2011-04-25 Thread Marc Paré
Hi Ricardo: Some points I would like to express: Le 2011-04-25 12:43, RGB ES a écrit : As a first step I did a mix between the Spanish text and a translation from the English cover. The resulting text is more compact, I think. There is no need to translate as is from the English text. The

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Little problem with the Vegur font

2011-04-25 Thread RGB ES
2011/4/25 Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com: Hi Ricardo: Some points I would like to express: Le 2011-04-25 12:43, RGB ES a écrit : As a first step I did a mix between the Spanish text and a translation from the English cover. The resulting text is more compact, I think. There is no need to

Re: [libreoffice-design] Take inspiration from Lotus Symphony ?

2011-04-25 Thread Cyril Arnaud
Christoph, Thanks for the detailed answer, I really appreciate it. The problem I see with the current interface is that it's sometime tricky to understand what styles are, and how to manage them. The UI is not really intuitive to find where things are. Most user I encountered (not that much, so

Re: [libreoffice-design] Take inspiration from Lotus Symphony ?

2011-04-25 Thread Cyril Arnaud
Greg, I guess you are right, for power users LO is better, but for regular person ... i'm not so sure. The best option in my mind would be to take inspiration from Symphony to bridge the gap between the noob friendly UI of Symphony with the power user capabilities of LO. I'm no developper, so how

Re: [libreoffice-design] Take inspiration from Lotus Symphony ?

2011-04-25 Thread RGB ES
2011/4/26 Cyril Arnaud cyril.arn...@gmail.com: Most user I encountered (not that much, so there is no statistics behind this observation) are doing fine because they look around, search, experiment. But some users are afraid of searching, testing. That's why I find the Symphony's UI

[libreoffice-design] Re: Position of the design team in our community - link to discussion on marketing list

2011-04-25 Thread Marc Paré
Hi Planas Le 2011-04-25 22:26, planas a écrit : On Tue, 2011-04-26 at 01:28 +0200, Bernhard Dippold wrote: Hi all, I just want to inform you that there is a discussion (mainly between Drew and Marc) about the design team and if we should approve every single design item created for

Re: [libreoffice-design] Page styles

2011-04-25 Thread Steve Edmonds
On 2011-04-26 16:28, Rafael Rocha Daud wrote: Em -10-01--28163 16:59, RGB ES escreveu: There is one thing that it is strange about page styles when you edit them, specially for new users: it is possible to decide if a particular page style have or not headers or footers... but you cannot

[libreoffice-design] Mouse click actions on Styles and Format window

2011-04-25 Thread Rafael Rocha Daud
Hi all, I propose a first easy modification to the Styles and Format issue, regarding their window, which I find much unfriendly (not opposed to friendly, but to nice :-)): Today there's plenty of empty space there. If you right-click that space, you get one option: New. If you right-click