Hello all, FYI: because I felt this way of communication inside the project lacked the necessary respect for the volunteer work done for about seven years during spare time, I stopped my work for the project and the website with immidiate effect. I was never included in any discussion about the site before this thread (or better threat) was started. I think this is a behavior that is not appropriate to an open source project that define itself as open and transparent.
Thus the extensions and templates website is not maintained since three weeks yet. I will only spend my spare time for tasks where I get in return respectful treatment and honest feedback. Kind regards, Andreas Am 11.10.18 um 14:58 schrieb Bjoern Michaelsen: > Hello Design Team, > > as you might be aware, the user experience of our extension and template > website causes users a lot of concern[1]. This is despite volunteer efforts > trying to move this forward, but stalling due to limited resources, which led > to TDF even attempting to get commercial support for Plone[2] to augment the > the limited volunteer ressources available. The latter did not help to > meaningfully improve the situation either. > > So as all current efforts there are stalled, I looked around for alternative > solutions to our usecase -- which is hosting auxiliary content for LibreOffice > consumers. We already have a platform that does that, which is > ask.libreoffice.org. > > ask.libreoffice.org already allows uploading of templates as attachments to > questions, so it can already be used for templates. Doing so (e.g. by posting > a > self-answered question) is possible, but not exactly intuitive. However, > askbot > also provides: > > - various logins including OAuth etc. (which currently is a hassle on Plone) > - distributed moderation and gamification (which currently is a bottleneck on > Plone) > - better discoveribility, tagging and social media integration > - markdown, mini-wiki and discussion of content > - multi-language support > > That is, the experience for template creators and consumers is already much > better > on askbot than it is on the current extension and templates website, which is > stalled and currently has no clear path to even get to a experience comparable > with askbot -- let alone beyond. > > As such, I would like to suggest the design team to investigate, if it is > feasable: > > - to extend askbots existing UI to offer uploading of templates > (well, technically that is already possible: This is just about making the > usecase more obvious to users, e.g. with a guided "templates upload wizard") > - to extend askbots configuration to also allow .oxt files as uploads and > offer > the same for extensions > - finally, use e.g. tags to provide a "template" or "extension" view of > ask.libreoffice.org > > Unlike the rather limited successes we had with Plone, TDF sucessfully > triggered > improvements of askbot in the past[3], so given some well-scoped choices and > selections made by the design team wrt askbot could help guide the same in the > future. > > Best, > > Bjoern > > > [1] Seen e.g. by: > a/ repeated cries for help on twitter, some examples: > https://twitter.com/nimbleslides/status/1020899933161848832 > https://twitter.com/FloraCanou/status/1020517686453735424 > b/ currently no presentation templates being offered there, despite this > being the most common use case: > > https://extensions.libreoffice.org/templates?getCategories=Presentation&getCompatibility=any > and massive template collections actually being hosted elsewhere e.g.: > https://github.com/dohliam/libreoffice-impress-templates > [2] see entry for 2016-02-18 on > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF/BoD_Decisions > [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Askbot > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
