Re: [Snowdrift-design] Audio for intro-to-snowdrift video

2016-10-19 Thread Aaron Wolf
On 10/19/2016 02:22 PM, mray wrote: > > > On 19.10.2016 22:56, Aaron Wolf wrote: >> On 10/19/2016 01:25 PM, mray wrote: >>> >>> You are partially misrepresenting my point here. >>> I agree that time, money, attention are limited resources. >>> I reject that they have to be spend either one *OR*

Re: [Snowdrift-design] Audio for intro-to-snowdrift video

2016-10-19 Thread mray
On 19.10.2016 22:56, Aaron Wolf wrote: > On 10/19/2016 01:25 PM, mray wrote: >> >> You are partially misrepresenting my point here. >> I agree that time, money, attention are limited resources. >> I reject that they have to be spend either one *OR* the other way: >> >> One can pay for Photoshop

Re: [Snowdrift-design] Audio for intro-to-snowdrift video

2016-10-18 Thread Aaron Wolf
On 10/18/2016 07:55 AM, Michael Siepmann wrote: > >> The problem I have with the story is that anything a little too >> far-fetched is hard to accept. People don't have the experience of >> living in a town that has no tax-funded public services. Perhaps if the >> story were described as a rural

Re: [Snowdrift-design] Audio for intro-to-snowdrift video

2016-10-18 Thread Michael Siepmann
On 10/17/2016 08:12 PM, Aaron Wolf wrote: > While I really appreciate the insights and perspective from the story > approach Michael presented, it feels far too contrived to me. I'd like > to see if we can capture some feel of the story-style narrative without > pushing the limits too hard. > >

Re: [Snowdrift-design] Audio for intro-to-snowdrift video

2016-10-17 Thread Aaron Wolf
While I really appreciate the insights and perspective from the story approach Michael presented, it feels far too contrived to me. I'd like to see if we can capture some feel of the story-style narrative without pushing the limits too hard. The problem I have with the story is that anything a

Re: [Snowdrift-design] Audio for intro-to-snowdrift video

2016-10-17 Thread Michael Siepmann
On 10/17/2016 09:16 AM, mray wrote: > > As I mentioned in the meeting today, I think a more story-oriented, less academic approach would be preferable (though it would be good to have rigorous academic-style explanations available somewhere for those who want them, but probably text and images

Re: [Snowdrift-design] Audio for intro-to-snowdrift video

2016-10-17 Thread Stephen Michel
When this video is complete, I'd like to make it into a series of gifs with text, to post on imgur (which, issues with the platform aside, has a large community that I think might be sympathetic to our cause) or elsewhere. ___ Design mailing list

Re: [Snowdrift-design] Audio for intro-to-snowdrift video

2016-10-17 Thread mray
On 16.10.2016 02:19, Aaron Wolf wrote: >> It is like saying: "we could all work together or – fly over the >> snowdrift with our private helicopters, but patrol is too expensive and >> little timmy lost the helicopter keys!" >> > > No, because the one and only snowdrift dilemma is "how do

Re: [Snowdrift-design] Audio for intro-to-snowdrift video

2016-10-15 Thread Aaron Wolf
On 10/15/2016 03:25 PM, mray wrote: > > > On 15.10.2016 18:12, Aaron Wolf wrote: >> On 10/15/2016 04:04 AM, mray wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 15.10.2016 04:35, Aaron Wolf wrote: With a road blocked by a snowdrift, everyone wants it cleared, but nobody wants to do it all themselves. Of course,

Re: [Snowdrift-design] Audio for intro-to-snowdrift video

2016-10-15 Thread mray
On 15.10.2016 18:12, Aaron Wolf wrote: > On 10/15/2016 04:04 AM, mray wrote: >> >> >> On 15.10.2016 04:35, Aaron Wolf wrote: >>> With a road blocked by a snowdrift, everyone wants it cleared, but >>> nobody wants to do it all themselves. Of course, nothing gets done if >>> each of us waits for

Re: [Snowdrift-design] Audio for intro-to-snowdrift video

2016-10-15 Thread mray
On 15.10.2016 04:35, Aaron Wolf wrote: > With a road blocked by a snowdrift, everyone wants it cleared, but > nobody wants to do it all themselves. Of course, nothing gets done if > each of us waits for others to do the work. > > That's an example of the PUBLIC GOODS PROBLEM where we fail to

Re: [Snowdrift-design] Audio for intro-to-snowdrift video

2016-10-15 Thread William Hale
On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 19:35:21 -0700 Aaron Wolf wrote: > ``` > With a road blocked by a snowdrift, everyone wants it cleared, but > nobody wants to do it all themselves. Of course, nothing gets done if > each of us waits for others to do the work. I think explaining the road

Re: [Snowdrift-design] Audio for intro-to-snowdrift video

2016-10-14 Thread mray
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[Snowdrift-design] Audio for intro-to-snowdrift video

2016-10-13 Thread Aaron Wolf
It's not perfect, but I think this is usable. I worked hard to capture every aspect that would cover all the important elements, avoid misunderstanding from people who might have the wrong guesses if things weren't quite clear, and achieves the basic idea of a compelling introduction from which