Re: [Snowdrift-design] Mockup of account history

On 12.08.2016 23:28, Stephen Michel wrote: > On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 5:22 PM, Aaron Wolf wrote: >> On 08/12/2016 01:58 PM, Michael Siepmann wrote: >>> Here's a rough-around-the-edges modification of mray's mockup with the >>> kind of information and structure I'm arguing

Re: [Snowdrift-design] Mockup of account history

On 08/13/2016 08:13 PM, Stephen Michel wrote: > > > On August 13, 2016 12:18:48 PM EDT, Michael Siepmann > wrote: >> Great idea, incorporated into >> http://snowdrift.sylphs.net/f/a87dd65116/?raw=1 >> >> Not shown in the mockup is what it would say in the simpler

Re: [Snowdrift-design] Mockup of account history

On 08/12/2016 03:54 PM, Michael Siepmann wrote: > On 08/12/2016 04:08 PM, Michael Siepmann wrote: > >> On 08/12/2016 03:59 PM, Michael Siepmann wrote: >>> >> >> Here's what I had in mind, from the "How the limit works" thread: >> >> On 08/03/2016 06:34 PM, Aaron Wolf wrote: >>> On 08/03/2016

Re: [Snowdrift-design] Mockup of account history

On 08/12/2016 04:08 PM, Michael Siepmann wrote: > On 08/12/2016 03:59 PM, Michael Siepmann wrote: >> > > Here's what I had in mind, from the "How the limit works" thread: > > On 08/03/2016 06:34 PM, Aaron Wolf wrote: >> On 08/03/2016 05:19 PM, Aaron Wolf wrote: >>> Whenever there needs to be a

Re: [Snowdrift-design] Mockup of account history

On 08/12/2016 03:32 PM, Aaron Wolf wrote: > On 08/12/2016 02:28 PM, Stephen Michel wrote: >> On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 5:22 PM, Aaron Wolf wrote: >>> On 08/12/2016 01:58 PM, Michael Siepmann wrote: Here's a rough-around-the-edges modification of mray's mockup with the

Re: [Snowdrift-design] Mockup of account history

I like Stephen's acknowledgement of two issues, but I don't want them to be all that distinct. Hstory is history. People want to review the whole system and understand the interactions. Most of the time, people will be wanting to generally review what happened why and how the system works. They

Re: [Snowdrift-design] Mockup of account history

On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 7:01 PM, Stephen Michel wrote: Some great, intense, back and forth. I ask that Michael and mray pause your discussion for a moment, because I have another perspective I want to throw into the mix that may change the discussion somewhat and I'd

Re: [Snowdrift-design] Mockup of account history

On 11.08.2016 00:42, Michael Siepmann wrote: > On 08/10/2016 03:13 PM, mray wrote: >> >> To me the simplest answer to "What did I pay last months - and why?" is: >> "Nothing, because it got carried over." It is just not necessary to add >> more information here in order to make sense in the

Re: [Snowdrift-design] Mockup of account history

Some great, intense, back and forth. I ask that Michael and mray pause your discussion for a moment, because I have another perspective I want to throw into the mix that may change the discussion somewhat and I'd like to avoid you wasting time, but it might take me an hour or few to get that

Re: [Snowdrift-design] Mockup of account history

On 08/10/2016 03:13 PM, mray wrote: > > To me the simplest answer to "What did I pay last months - and why?" is: > "Nothing, because it got carried over." It is just not necessary to add > more information here in order to make sense in the type "2." (simple) > representation. Lack of

Re: [Snowdrift-design] Mockup of account history

In terms of the bare minimum we need to let people support Snowdrift through a crowdmatching mechanism, a payment or activity history is not strictly necessary. There has been a lot of good discussion, and we're kind of in the middle of it, but I would like to suggest we put it on pause

Re: [Snowdrift-design] Mockup of account history

Lots of snip… > My point is that having "proper" entries inside a "$0-month is > unintuitive. I don't find entries that add up to 0 unintiutive at all. > Not having to jump around months to make sense of the one > payment that *did* happen seems more intuitive. That I agree is intuitive. We

Re: [Snowdrift-design] Mockup of account history

On 10.08.2016 19:01, Michael Siepmann wrote: > On 08/10/2016 09:36 AM, Aaron Wolf wrote: > >> On 08/10/2016 05:59 AM, Bryan Richter wrote: >>> On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 12:35:03PM +0200, Robert Martinez (mray) wrote: I think there need to be two distinct representations of your

Re: [Snowdrift-design] Mockup of account history

On 08/10/2016 12:31 PM, mray wrote: > > > On 10.08.2016 14:59, Bryan Richter wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 12:35:03PM +0200, Robert Martinez (mray) >> >> I think this looks amazing. But I am easily wowed by nice graphics. >> Looking forward to Michael's response. Robert, I'm also curious how

Re: [Snowdrift-design] Mockup of account history

On 10.08.2016 14:59, Bryan Richter wrote: > On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 12:35:03PM +0200, Robert Martinez (mray) > > I think this looks amazing. But I am easily wowed by nice graphics. > Looking forward to Michael's response. Robert, I'm also curious how > you think we should handle that stupid

Re: [Snowdrift-design] Mockup of account history

On 08/10/2016 09:36 AM, Aaron Wolf wrote: > On 08/10/2016 05:59 AM, Bryan Richter wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 12:35:03PM +0200, Robert Martinez (mray) wrote: >>> >>> I think there need to be two distinct representations of your >>> activity on snowdrift. >>> >>> 1. A *complete* log of all

Re: [Snowdrift-design] Mockup of account history

On 08.08.2016 19:55, Michael Siepmann wrote: > Here's a revised mockup without the pledge subtotal and showing both the "too > low" and "too high" reasons for carryover. In this example, the user > increased > their limit in July. There are other changes also, such as noting what the >

Re: [Snowdrift-design] Mockup of account history

On Tue, Aug 09, 2016 at 08:03:40PM -0400, Stephen Michel wrote: > > Seems entirely reasonable. I propose not to worry about dropping > pledges until post-launch. I agree. I've added an issue so we track this for later: https://tree.taiga.io/project/snowdrift/issue/460 signature.asc

Re: [Snowdrift-design] Mockup of account history

On 08/09/2016 10:42 AM, Bryan Richter wrote: > On Tue, Aug 09, 2016 at 10:09:47AM -0600, Michael Siepmann wrote: >> On 08/09/2016 07:23 AM, Stephen Michel wrote: >> >>> >>> I agree with Michael here, but there is a limit. Imagine a user >>> who pledges to many projects which are then suspended as

Re: [Snowdrift-design] Mockup of account history

On Tue, Aug 09, 2016 at 10:09:47AM -0600, Michael Siepmann wrote: > On 08/09/2016 07:23 AM, Stephen Michel wrote: > > > > > I agree with Michael here, but there is a limit. Imagine a user > > who pledges to many projects which are then suspended as they > > grow, but who is also lazy and leaves

Re: [Snowdrift-design] Mockup of account history

On 08/09/2016 07:23 AM, Stephen Michel wrote: > > I agree with Michael here, but there is a limit. Imagine a user who pledges > to many projects which are then suspended as they grow, but who is also lazy > and leaves the pledges suspended rather than dropping them. Their history > could

Re: [Snowdrift-design] Mockup of account history

On August 8, 2016 1:30:11 PM EDT, Michael Siepmann wrote: >On 08/02/2016 05:55 PM, mray wrote: >> * items that did not contribute to a months spending can be omitted >for >> clarity. Carried over pledges appear on the respective new month. >> Suspended projects are

Re: [Snowdrift-design] Mockup of account history

On 08/02/2016 05:55 PM, mray wrote: > On 01.08.2016 23:30, Michael Siepmann wrote: >> We discussed this in today's meeting. Here's a revised mockup, also >> attached in >> .ods format. This shows payment processing fees, two successive months of >> carry-over, and an example where a pledge was

Re: [Snowdrift-design] Mockup of account history

On 08/03/2016 04:24 AM, mray wrote: > > > On 03.08.2016 12:52, Aaron Wolf wrote: >> On 08/03/2016 01:31 AM, Bryan Richter wrote: >>> On Wed, Aug 03, 2016 at 01:55:44AM +0200, Robert Martinez (mray) wrote: On 01.08.2016 23:30, Michael Siepmann wrote: > We discussed this in today's

Re: [Snowdrift-design] Mockup of account history

On 03.08.2016 10:31, Bryan Richter wrote: > On Wed, Aug 03, 2016 at 01:55:44AM +0200, Robert Martinez (mray) wrote: >> On 01.08.2016 23:30, Michael Siepmann wrote: >>> We discussed this in today's meeting. Here's a revised mockup, >>> also attached in .ods format. This shows payment processing

Re: [Snowdrift-design] Mockup of account history

On 08/03/2016 01:31 AM, Bryan Richter wrote: > On Wed, Aug 03, 2016 at 01:55:44AM +0200, Robert Martinez (mray) wrote: >> On 01.08.2016 23:30, Michael Siepmann wrote: >>> We discussed this in today's meeting. Here's a revised mockup, >>> also attached in .ods format. This shows payment processing

Re: [Snowdrift-design] Mockup of account history

On 01.08.2016 23:30, Michael Siepmann wrote: > We discussed this in today's meeting. Here's a revised mockup, also attached > in > .ods format. This shows payment processing fees, two successive months of > carry-over, and an example where a pledge was suspended: > Thanks for clarifying via

Re: [Snowdrift-design] Mockup of account history

On 08/01/2016 02:30 PM, Michael Siepmann wrote: > We discussed this in today's meeting. Here's a revised mockup, also > attached in .ods format. This shows payment processing fees, two > successive months of carry-over, and an example where a pledge was > suspended: > > In my view, this is

Re: [Snowdrift-design] Mockup of account history

We discussed this in today's meeting. Here's a revised mockup, also attached in .ods format. This shows payment processing fees, two successive months of carry-over, and an example where a pledge was suspended: History mockup 2.ods Description: application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.spreadsheet

[Snowdrift-design] Mockup of account history

In last week's meeting we discussed the need for some kind of account history, and also a way to represent the situation of no Stripe transaction happening because it would be too small to be worth the fees. Here's a mockup showing one approach to this, with the example of a $2 minimum Stripe