[Bug 118745] Re: Font sizes in Gutsy are vulnerable to bad X.org DPI detection

2007-08-17 Thread Jonathan Riddell
** Changed in: xorg-server (Ubuntu) Target: tribe-5 = ubuntu-7.10-beta -- Font sizes in Gutsy are vulnerable to bad X.org DPI detection https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/118745 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. --

[Bug 118745] Re: Font sizes in Gutsy are vulnerable to bad X.org DPI detection

2007-08-15 Thread Anthony S
Pardon my curiosity, but what is the significance of the OS knowing the PPI of the screen? Consider the following scenarios: Screen #1 is an independent monitor: a 19 LCD with native 1280x1024 resolution. The PPI is approx. 85. The user sits between 3 and 5 feet away from this screen. Screen

[Bug 118745] Re: Font sizes in Gutsy are vulnerable to bad X.org DPI detection

2007-08-15 Thread Alex Jones
Both are necessary, but the only thing we can scale right now is fonts so we should talk about this in a blueprint. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/resolution-independence -- Font sizes in Gutsy are vulnerable to bad X.org DPI detection https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/118745 You

[Bug 118745] Re: Font sizes in Gutsy are vulnerable to bad X.org DPI detection

2007-08-15 Thread Raptor45
(Correct me if I'm wrong here, but... this is why to the best of my understanding.) The reason for knowing the DPI hasn't been too important in the past, but could grow to become a bigger issue in the future. This is because although most current screens are approximately 96 DPI, there is room

[Bug 118745] Re: Font sizes in Gutsy are vulnerable to bad X.org DPI detection

2007-08-15 Thread Raptor45
A possible solution to the bad DPI detection could be to have a simple way of allowing users to input it on install. This could be done by showing a ruler on the screen and asking users to expand/compress it until it matches up with the markings on a real ruler. (Windows has a similar method, and

[Bug 118745] Re: Font sizes in Gutsy are vulnerable to bad X.org DPI detection

2007-08-13 Thread Alex Jones
We don't have resolution independence yet in GNOME. As such, the only thing that is affected by screen DPI are the fonts. Proportionality between text and other graphical elements, particularly icons, is of primary concern for most users. The only way that proportionality looks right, is with 13

[Bug 118745] Re: Font sizes in Gutsy are vulnerable to bad X.org DPI detection

2007-08-11 Thread Carroarmato0
What's this thing about guessing? When the live-cd boot screen appears you can select your screen size from there. How come the boot graphics aren't the same as the normal graphics? Can't X use a default dpi based on the screen size you selected at boot time? Of course there's some abstraction

[Bug 118745] Re: Font sizes in Gutsy are vulnerable to bad X.org DPI detection

2007-08-10 Thread Bryce Harrington
Fwiw, bulletproof-x is just a failsafe mode for X, and wouldn't have any bearing on this issue. It sort of sounds like the issue here is that Gnome is guessing the correct dpi by looking at the refresh rates. Unfortunately, in most cases the refresh rates are themselves just guesses done by the

[Bug 118745] Re: Font sizes in Gutsy are vulnerable to bad X.org DPI detection

2007-08-09 Thread Jonathan Riddell
When X can pick any random DPI there's no right answer as to what the default font size should be. I recommend adopting the guidance-restore script which sets up a sane DPI. Install kde-guidance and restart the X server to test. It can easily be moved to guidance-backends. -- Font sizes in

[Bug 118745] Re: Font sizes in Gutsy are vulnerable to bad X.org DPI detection

2007-08-09 Thread Alex Jones
How big is your screen? (Physically) -- Font sizes in Gutsy are vulnerable to bad X.org DPI detection https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/118745 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list

[Bug 118745] Re: Font sizes in Gutsy are vulnerable to bad X.org DPI detection

2007-08-09 Thread Ned
I don't know if this is the same problem, but on the latest update, text pretty much everywhere got really small. I have a screenshot of the problem attached. ** Attachment added: Text is too small http://launchpadlibrarian.net/8765904/texttoosmall.png -- Font sizes in Gutsy are vulnerable

[Bug 118745] Re: Font sizes in Gutsy are vulnerable to bad X.org DPI detection

2007-08-09 Thread Ned
It's about 11 1/2 inches horizontally and 8 1/2 inches vertically not including the border around the edges. It's a Dell Latitude D610 laptop. -- Font sizes in Gutsy are vulnerable to bad X.org DPI detection https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/118745 You received this bug notification because you

[Bug 118745] Re: Font sizes in Gutsy are vulnerable to bad X.org DPI detection - Tribe 4 problem

2007-08-09 Thread Kristian Rosenvold
I have a 40 inch 1920*1080 display attached (Approximately 55 dpi according to my calculations). Xorg.log says it detects a DPI value of 304, 304. I get *GIGANTIC* fonts and Icons and am unable to install gutsy tribe 4 or change anything because hardly nothing fits on my screen ! -- Font sizes

[Bug 118745] Re: Font sizes in Gutsy are vulnerable to bad X.org DPI detection

2007-08-08 Thread Martin Pitt
** Changed in: xorg-server (Ubuntu) Target: tribe-4 = tribe-5 -- Font sizes in Gutsy are vulnerable to bad X.org DPI detection https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/118745 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. --

[Bug 118745] Re: Font sizes in Gutsy are vulnerable to bad X.org DPI detection

2007-08-08 Thread Brian Murray
** Tags added: metabug -- Font sizes in Gutsy are vulnerable to bad X.org DPI detection https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/118745 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com

[Bug 118745] Re: Font sizes in Gutsy are vulnerable to bad X.org DPI detection

2007-08-08 Thread Paul Dufresne
Not sure if bug #107320 (that itself have duplicates) is related and or duplicate of this one. -- Font sizes in Gutsy are vulnerable to bad X.org DPI detection https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/118745 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a

[Bug 118745] Re: Font sizes in Gutsy are vulnerable to bad X.org DPI detection

2007-08-07 Thread Marius Gedminas
Mike: it's gnome-font-properties. -- Font sizes in Gutsy are vulnerable to bad X.org DPI detection https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/118745 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list

[Bug 118745] Re: Font sizes in Gutsy are vulnerable to bad X.org DPI detection

2007-08-04 Thread Mike Richards
What is the name of the control panel app that lets you change font sizes? I have a non-standard Ubuntu install, so I need to know the name of the app to launch it from the command line. Thanks. -- Font sizes in Gutsy are vulnerable to bad X.org DPI detection

[Bug 118745] Re: Font sizes in Gutsy are vulnerable to bad X.org DPI detection

2007-08-01 Thread Bryce Harrington
** Changed in: xorg-server (Ubuntu) Status: New = Confirmed -- Font sizes in Gutsy are vulnerable to bad X.org DPI detection https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/118745 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. --

[Bug 118745] Re: Font sizes in Gutsy are vulnerable to bad X.org DPI detection

2007-07-26 Thread Nick_Hill
Hello Andreas Presumably your fonts scaled to 75dpi but displayed on your 96dpi screen. They were therefore not displayed as an 11pt font but instead displayed as an 8.5pt font. Now the dpi is presumably detected correctly, it is displayed, as set, at 11pt. As you rightly say, there is a matter

[Bug 118745] Re: Font sizes in Gutsy are vulnerable to bad X.org DPI detection

2007-07-26 Thread Andreas Färber
I would like to point out that this issue touches on personal taste. I liked the small menu font size in Tribe 2 whereas I do not like the 11pt at 96dpi setting I suddenly had after today's updates. Please reconsider imposing that on all users without asking. -- Font sizes in Gutsy are

[Bug 118745] Re: Font sizes in Gutsy are vulnerable to bad X.org DPI detection

2007-07-17 Thread Sarah Hobbs
** Changed in: xorg-server (Ubuntu) Target: tribe-3 = tribe-4 -- Font sizes in Gutsy are vulnerable to bad X.org DPI detection https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/118745 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. --

[Bug 118745] Re: Font sizes in Gutsy are vulnerable to bad X.org DPI detection

2007-07-15 Thread Stephan7
I noticed in this discussion that firefox is removed from this issue, however Bug #121738 in firefox (Ubuntu) is makred a duplicate of this and it shows a difference between firefox menu font (not its contents) with the gnome menus. I have that same problem that the firefox menu font is too

[Bug 118745] Re: Font sizes in Gutsy are vulnerable to bad X.org DPI detection

2007-07-15 Thread John Vivirito
Firefox was removed from this issue because firefox isnt causing this problem it is affected by it. -- Font sizes in Gutsy are vulnerable to bad X.org DPI detection https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/118745 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is

[Bug 118745] Re: Font sizes in Gutsy are vulnerable to bad X.org DPI detection

2007-07-09 Thread Patrice Vetsel
Hi i confirm this problem on a fresh install of tribe 2. Fonts are too small. following Nick_Hill post, i set dpi to 85 and all is ok now. Tell me if you need more specific informations. -- Font sizes in Gutsy are vulnerable to bad X.org DPI detection https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/118745 You

[Bug 118745] Re: Font sizes in Gutsy are vulnerable to bad X.org DPI detection

2007-07-09 Thread Nick_Hill
Hello Patrice How did you sett he DPI for your system? For my 17 TFT monitor, I set screen size and hence DPI in xorg.conf like: Section Monitor Identifier Generic Monitor Option DPMS HorizSync 30-65 VertRefresh 50-75 DisplaySize

[Bug 118745] Re: Font sizes in Gutsy are vulnerable to bad X.org DPI detection

2007-07-07 Thread Tim Hull
Well, at least in my case the correct DPI seems to have been detected in Tribe 2. However, 11 pt system font is too big at my actual system DPI - though 10 pt (the original setting) is perfectly fine. -- Font sizes in Gutsy are vulnerable to bad X.org DPI detection

[Bug 118745] Re: Font sizes in Gutsy are vulnerable to bad X.org DPI detection

2007-07-06 Thread Nick_Hill
As an update to my suggestion to have the DPI settable in a Gnome interface, I suggest replacing the DPI drop-down box that I previously suggested, with a screen size drop-down box. And add two fields for width and height. If anything other than user defined is selected, the width and height

[Bug 118745] Re: Font sizes in Gutsy are vulnerable to bad X.org DPI detection

2007-07-03 Thread John Vivirito
Rejecting firefox task as it is not a firefox issue. ** Changed in: firefox (Ubuntu) Status: New = Invalid -- Font sizes in Gutsy are vulnerable to bad X.org DPI detection https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/118745 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop

[Bug 118745] Re: Font sizes in Gutsy are vulnerable to bad X.org DPI detection

2007-07-02 Thread Nick_Hill
I have a switch box. The switch box doesn't appear to send DDC signals through, whether or not the monitor is live when X starts. If I start X with the monitor connected directly to the computer, X sets DPI at 95, 96 . If the monitor is not connected, it sets the DPI at 75. At 75dpi, the fonts

[Bug 118745] Re: Font sizes in Gutsy are vulnerable to bad X.org DPI detection

2007-06-28 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
** Summary changed: - default desktop/panel menu font sizes too small + Font sizes in Gutsy are vulnerable to bad X.org DPI detection ** Description changed: - since gutsy, font sizes are too small. + In Gutsy, Gnome switched to using the X server's screen DPI detection, + which means that

Re: [Bug 118745] Re: Font sizes in Gutsy are vulnerable to bad X.org DPI detection

2007-06-28 Thread Martin Pitt
Hi, Mark Shuttleworth [2007-06-28 17:33 -]: - since gutsy, font sizes are too small. + In Gutsy, Gnome switched to using the X server's screen DPI detection, + which means that fonts can easily appear to be too large or too small, + depending on your screen setup. The old approach was to

[Bug 118745] Re: Font sizes in Gutsy are vulnerable to bad X.org DPI detection

2007-06-28 Thread Tim Hull
In my experience, changing the DPI does have an effect . However, what I'm finding is that even with the *correct* DPI values, the fonts can be way too big. In my case, using the correct value (112 dpi) causes my MacBook to have fonts that are intolerably large. 96 dpi, on the other hand,