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unity-window-decorator is not running
my themes are in:
/usr/share/themes/
And do not remember installing any theme manually. I always used just the ones
that came with Ubuntu.
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It says in this thread that a fix was commited. I upraded to Ubuntu
11.04 using the classic gnome desktop and still my window borders in the
ambiance and radiance themes are only 1 pixel wide, so resizing windows
with the mouse alone is still a pain in the ass. I thought it was fixed
now. Is
On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 10:56 PM, UeB moritz_nad...@gmx.de wrote:
It says in this thread that a fix was commited. I upraded to Ubuntu
11.04 using the classic gnome desktop and still my window borders in the
ambiance and radiance themes are only 1 pixel wide, so resizing windows
with the mouse
thanks to scaine #58 for something that works
can't believe it took 4 years for some to realise windows that are extremely
difficult to grab the sides of is not the intention of a Graphical User
Interface
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We can't backport it unless we backport compiz too since it is
dependent on the reparenting feature of compiz which was introduced in
the unstable version in Natty.
On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 12:01 AM, Taco Fortgens
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I agree that this should be backported, especialy
Peter (#257): you are correct to note [I] can't believe it took 4 years
.. to. The problem itself has had been known about for three years
(as evidenced by this bug report filed in December 2007) before designs
were done, those designs tested, and ultimately deployed.
The word realisation can
I agree that this should be backported, especialy to 10.04 LTS
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Thanks for getting it fixed for Natty. Please backport that fix to
10.04LTS and 10.10.
I know it says no more comments needed, but I'm not certain that is
totally accurate. With one hand having a small tremor, and the other
not, I guess I qualify under both usability and accessibility. So I add
Sorry, I meant to repeat my thanks at the end of that last post. Bug
tracking, fixing, testing, and finally deploying the associated
patch(es) is often a thankless and unglamorous set of tasks. Rest
assured, this fix will be noticed and appreciated!
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In reply to #245 by The Fiddler:
I'm not sure if our experience differs or if I did not explain my
proposed solution well enough. I find that I have no difficulty getting
the resize pointer to appear momentarily while moving across the window
border, the problem lies in actually clicking while
In reply to #245 by The Fiddler:
I'm not sure if our experience differs or if I did not explain my
proposed solution well enough. I find that I have no difficulty getting
the resize pointer to appear momentarily while moving across the window
border, the problem lies in actually clicking while
#245:
Our experience is indeed different. I simply cannot make the pointer
appear using a trackpad. It often takes me upwards of 5'' to find the
correct pixel.
Funnily enough, I've had four separate Ubuntu users comment on this
behavior independently, just during the last week. I'm glad to see
Its fixed in natty alpha2
R
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* New Ambiance properties for shadow and padding added to
metacity theme files (for invisible window grip support).
These are read by
Solution applied in Natty (will be in Ubuntu 11.04).
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* debian/patches/06_Add_UXD_shadows_and_borders.patch:
- patch for a new key in the ubuntu theme for shows and borders
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I think a good modification to the invisible drag handle proposal
would be to rather use resize border resistance. This is a solution
that won't require more than 1 px of UI space to work well. How I
envisage it working is:
1) keep your arbitrarily small window border resize
2) Define a
2011/1/24 Neilen Marais launch...@chatsubo.lagged.za.net
I think a good modification to the invisible drag handle proposal
would be to rather use resize border resistance. This is a solution
that won't require more than 1 px of UI space to work well. How I
envisage it working is:
1) keep
I thought I was the only one who really had a problem with this. But
then I thought that wouldn't make sense, and that probably nobody had
filed a bug.
So I searched and found this.
And I'm shocked this HUGE bug has been filed here for around 3 years yet it's
low priority.
How can this be low
MikeLoco14: Yes, corner drag functionality is already in natty (which will
likely become Ubuntu 11.04 in April 2011).
As the blog post from 9 October 2010 notes: The credit for this work goes to
Cody Russell. Cody is an Ubuntu Member, see Cody's Launchpad page:
I'm getting worried. There is this *very* annoying bug that affects
every day the usability of the whole OS and this bug has been open and
not fixed for 3 years!!! Don't you listen to users at all?!
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very seriously. Of all bugs in the project, this one has the highest
number of comments and second-highest number of people affected, but is
tagged as Low importance.
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+ This should mostly be fixed for Natty and might get backported to
+ earlier releases as well.
+
Thanks Vish.
Would it be possible to amend the following sentence so it reads:
+ This should mostly be fixed for Natty and *will* get backported to
10.04 and might get backported to earlier releases as well.
10.04 is a LTS after all...
thanks,
Jan
On 03/01/11 07:53, Vish wrote:
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On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 10:49 PM, Martin Spacek launch...@mspacek.mm.st wrote:
Sorry for the noise, but as others have pointed out (over the years!),
one workaround is using ALT+middle mouse button to resize from anywhere
within a window. Just want to add that there's a key in gconf that let's
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Binary package hint: metacity
- The issue has been an issue for users
** Description changed:
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Binary package hint: metacity
- The issue has been an issue for users (especially of large) screens for
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The best fix for this usability bug is to create an invisible region
around each non-maximized window about 4px thick that can be used for
resizing
I would suggest creating this resizing area only _inside_ this window, 4
pixels close to border.
Or perhaps there should be a border
Sorry for the noise, but as others have pointed out (over the years!),
one workaround is using ALT+middle mouse button to resize from anywhere
within a window. Just want to add that there's a key in gconf that let's
you change that to using ALT+right mouse button instead:
Whatever solution you people come up with for 11.04 makes no difference
to me, but holy heck this needs to be fixed. It's embarrassing to have a
100 Paper Cuts project without this being on it.
If you're going to make a 1 pixel border on your default theme, you'd
better figure out a way for
I completely agree, resizing windows in Ubuntu 10.10 (with default
theme) is a frustrating experience. And I'm using a *normal* resolution
(1366 x 768)...
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How can that be true? Why itsn't it fix in that Ubuntu release? :S
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Seem to be solved in GNOME 3
http://blogs.fedoraproject.org/wp/mclasen/2010/10/09/getting-a-grip/
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Does anyone know if this issue still exists in the current state of
Gnome 3?
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On 01/11/10 09:20, Ben Shadwick wrote:
I'm sad to see that a corner grip is the way they've decided to address
things, as it's really just a workaround.
+1.
So no fix for Gnome 2.x - and a half-fix for Gnome 3?
Can't believe the Gnome folks (assuming they're deciding about this)
allow
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- The issue has been an issue for users (especially of large) screens
Just wanted to say that I too find window resizing to be a pain. I'll
be changing the config file to widen the border. In case it matters,
I'd vote for the addition of a border width control to the configuration
UI. Seems like Appearance/Theme/Customize.../Window Border would be a
natural place
Hmm... I was able to increase border size for left, right, bottom
borders by editing the XML config as described by Troy James Sobotka
(comment #11). But, like Scaine (comment #58), I was not able to change
the top border, even after changing every value in the normal
frame_geometry block that
It is pretty clear that this is an issue and it is also pretty clear
that the folks who 'get to say' do not want to fix it.
I seems pointless to continue nominating it for the next release since
that tactic has been ineffective since 6.06.
Seems to me it is time to find an alternative to the
Brandon, I am working on something that should help to prevent issues
like this in the future. We could all donate money and get a patch if
needed, but then again only those lucky enough to know about launchpad
will be the ones to find it. Upstream may not even take it.
I am not sure how long it
Does anyone know if this issue still exists in the current state of
Gnome 3?
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I'm a bit surprised at the low severity. I would think that a major
usability issue in the default theme would be high.
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From the huge amount of comments here with people wanting a fix, and the
frequency that this bug would be encountered for the average user, I agree, it
should be higher. A simple task such as resizing a window should work better.
Yet, we must sit here and wish that it would be fixed in Metacity
This bug is the usability bug no 1 since years!
I don't get why it got not fixed long time ago.
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I know you said no more comments, but I just have to add one more.
I don't actually know what Ubuntu's 'mission' is, but I expect it would
like to become a popular desktop operating system that can be used and
maintained by anyone. Well until you fix your processes I just can't see
that even
krona: I think the description for Ubuntu bug #1 (
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1 ), under What should happen
point #3 is relevant to this bug.
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Scaine:
I can't see anyone taking up this torch when a new Gnome and theme engine are
just round the corner.
Perhaps.. Should we need to bring this bug to the attention of the Gnome
developers ASAP?
To my mind, the importance (low) of this bug speaks volumes regarding
whether it will be fixed.
georgehu: It's actually currently a per-theme setting in the theme
definition files, and there are some themes that are set to provide
thicker grab bars than others. In my personal opinion it should be a
theme-independent setting that is configurable by end-users via a GUI
control.
Alden: I agree
Ben - thanks for the info. As a temporary workaround, which file do I
edit? I'm using the Radiance theme.
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madbiologist: Googled around and found a recent forum thread with a post
describing how to do the theme file edit:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9881877#post9881877
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Comment #11 already details how to manually work around this bug. Of
course, if you change theme thereafter, you'll have to edit that theme's
metactiy-1.xml file too.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/metacity/+bug/160311/comments/11
I hate to be doom and gloom, but this metacity bug is
Hi all,
I don't want to see this fixed because it works that way in Windows. I
want to see it fixed because it is logical to want it to work this way.
I do not think it is too much to ask for an advanced operating system to
be adapted to the way users use it, instead of forcing users to
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 8:46 PM, Jan Bakuwel
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Hi all,
I don't want to see this fixed because it works that way in Windows. I
want to see it fixed because it is logical to want it to work this way.
I do not think it is too much to ask for an advanced
John, this is why we test the solution. Should someone implement a fix,
I will volunteer for testing.
We need to ensure that this fix works across the board for compiz,
metacity, popular default themes, etc. single monitor, dual monitor.
ATI/nvidia/Intel graphics (if that matters).
This needs
It seems that with the newest update of ubuntu 10.10, the border is
easier to grab. Except for the terminal window, it is still hard to grab
the border to do resizing.
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I was unaware of the menu choices presented by right-clicking the title
bar. :( That's not a technical issue, that's a training issue.
In my opinion the resize option is very usable and makes this bug
mute.
Would usability improve if folks were encouraged to right-click the title
bar by
I do not think so. Sure, many would get the hint and eventually figure
it out, but many would be put-off just trying to figure out how to
resize, even if they were successful. By default in Ubuntu with Compiz
on you can also control+middle-click to resize. But one thing about
Linux and free
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It would be nice to see some discussion of a theme-independent solution
to this issue. Expecting end-users to edit per-theme configuration files
is a non-ideal solution at best. This is a huge ease-of-use issue for me
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Kate - how is This can be mitigated by switching to the Dust or Clear
Looks theme a fix? If I install Ubuntu 10.10 on a new machine, the
default theme is still Ambience with 1 px borders. Are users required
to just *know* that they need to change a theme to be able to resize
windows? No other
You are do right.
Kind Regards,
Melroy van den Berg
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Status: Fix Committed = Fix Released
** Also affects: human-gtk-theme (Ubuntu Maverick)
Importance: Low
Status: Invalid
** Also affects: light-themes (Ubuntu Maverick)
Importance: Low
Status: Triaged
** Also affects: metacity
Release notes task has been committed
** Changed in: ubuntu-release-notes
Status: New = Fix Committed
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Assignee: Kenneth Wimer (kwwii) = (unassigned)
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Brett, I randomly stumbled upon this one some minutes ago:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaverickMeerkat/TechnicalOverview
Knows issues - Common desktop issues
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there is a blueprint for Natty.
https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-hci-n-resizing-windows
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Importance: Undecided
Status: New
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How would you customize a hotspot?
I'm seeing - radiance - a kind of V-shaped 'hotspot' for resizing from
the corners that is 1 pixel high, possibly 7 pixels wide, at for
instance the right-hand side of the top of the window, then 1 pixel
wide, possibly 7 pixels high, at the top of the right-hand
I have made an error in my comments to this bug report. I would like
to ask the people experiencing this to try what I described (resizing
from the corners) with Metacity (desktop effects disabled), not
Compiz. Metacity seems to behave considerably better here than Compiz,
where the extended
https://code.launchpad.net/~cimi/light-themes/rounded-bottom-corners
Mature branch with rounded corners at bottom, from 1px height to 4px.
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anyone wanting to try light-themes patched with the above branch in
Maverick here is the deb
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Resizing a window in 10.04 with Ambiance is a nightmare.
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Resizing a window in 10.04 with Ambiance is a nightmare.
What *he* said.
I've increased all my borders to 5px. fixes the problem, but makes
things look uglier than they should. I'd vote to just fix the
appearance of windows with 5px borders, instead of wasting time trying
to get in there and
This is a massively deep 'papercut' issue in the ubuntu project that needs
fixing as nearly every user will come across this issue - even if strictly
speaking it is not a bug.
On 15 Sep 2010 18:37, GonzO go...@worlord.com wrote:
Resizing a window in 10.04 with Ambiance is a nightmare.
What *he*
Everyone knows this is a problem – more comments don’t help more, they
actually distract people from doing work on it.
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Is there anyone with decision making power regarding this issue out
there willing to respond?
It would be good to know if our suggestion(s) are being seriously
considered, have been rejected, deemed irrelevant, etc?
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As mentioned above, the Ambiance theme in Ubuntu 10.04 has a 5-pixel
bottom border; and the corner regions of this border (a region of about
5-by-15 pixels -- I'm not sure) is usable for grabbing to resize the
window.
However, the newer version (1.7) of the light-themes package currently
in
+1 for Importance.
I think the usability (or lack thereof) of a user interface should not
depend on how it looks like. For instance we don't expect the theme to
define the pointer speed, double-click time out etc either?
I think it should be possible to use the user interface with straining
ones
I can't resist chiming in...
This bug/issue/behaviour is pretty aggravating. I had forgotten about
it after changing the theme on lucid, and was reminded of it after a new
maverick install.
Sure it's easy for us to fix, but for the average Joe it's simply yet another
reason to switch back to a
After recent maverick updates the old ubuntu themes disappeared, so i
switched to default ambiance theme. Suddenly I noticed i have problems
with resizing window.
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This invisible area could be defined only for the current focused
window, this would solve the problem of overlapping windows. It would be
a problem with the option focus on hover, however, but then, if we
consider this outside invisible area as being part of the window, the
focus would not be
Hi Dylan,
On 05/09/10 04:11, Dylan McCall wrote:
It would be helpful to know what is wrong with the current approach,
which has changed considerably from two years ago. The default themes
now have a _considerably large_ hotspot for resizing on all four corners
of every window. From my
[QUOTE]
It would be helpful to know what is wrong with the current approach, which has
changed considerably from two years ago. The default themes now have a
_considerably large_ hotspot for resizing on all four corners of every window.
From my perspective, this problem feels like it's solved
[QUOTE]
Think about it... if the window is maximized, this region lies outside the
window and is unreachable.
[/QUOTE]
Doug,
A great idea, but how would this work with dual/milti monitors? Or,
even, with the grid plugin from compiz, (allows you to square off
windows with relative ease
This is still a bug in 10.10 beta-1, unbelievable! Who must we bribe to
fix this bug? Or at least review the patch I posted four months ago?
Excuse me for the tone but this is pretty basic stuff. The bug has been
reported, patches proposed, what else does it take?
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It would be helpful to know what is wrong with the current approach,
which has changed considerably from two years ago. The default themes
now have a _considerably large_ hotspot for resizing on all four corners
of every window. From my perspective, this problem feels like it's
solved (though
@Dylan McCall
The default themes now have a _considerably large_ hotspot for resizing on
all four corners
of every window.
No, they're not. I checked in gnome-terminal and slightly moving up the
mouse pointer from bottom-right corner makes it lose the ability to
resize the window.
Besides,
Agree ith Michał. Additionally, the bottom-left corner does not offer an
enlarged resize grip.
The current Maverick approach feels rather awkward: ~8x8 resize grips on
three out of four corners and 1px resize grips on window edges. Contrast
with Dust theme, which may be ugly but gets the
I was wondering why I felt strain in my muscles, then engaged the brain, then
discovered this thread :-)
Making the border thicker obviously has undesirable optical effects.
IMHO resizing of windows should always be comfortable and intuitive (Microsoft
can do it, can't Ubuntu/Gnome/Metacity??).
Jan, I don't think the border needs to be visually thicker, just the
invisible one.
On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Jan Bakuwel
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I was wondering why I felt strain in my muscles, then engaged the brain,
then discovered this thread :-)
Making the border thicker
agree with Scaine (on 2007-11-13: #2): Resizing windows is
cumbersome, frustrating and far too easy to get wrong.
For me, a border/corner click will show the resize icon, then many times
stop that operation and switch focus to the window underneath--very
annoying. :( It's as if the resize
Since I'm new to linux, I asked someone who's more season'd if there are
any plugins or tools for window resizing... he wasn't aware of
anything... So I asked him... how would someone do it... he said you
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