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There's *plenty* of people that want this behavior. Empathy should
provide an option to configure the proxy *per account*, just like Pidgin
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This is not a unity specific issue. This is Ubuntu in general.
Invalidating that.
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As an update to everyone interested. There are tons of limitations as
to getting this bug complete. As of right now proxy works for Gabble
(mind glib-networking has to be installed), there is some interest in
porting idle to GIO which may allow proxying to work. For a lot of
other connection
@Brian No, proxy support works on gabble only for certain kinds of
configurations. For example a global HTTP proxy doesn't work. See
comment #118.
haze is *not* a libpurple implementation, and telepathy *does have*
control over that.
And what do you mean can't allow popups for password
http://telepathy.freedesktop.org/wiki/Components
haze is an implementation of libpurple, which telepathy does NOT have control
over.
Libpurple will allow for password prompts on proxies, haze can not use
these (idk why, this is all info from uptream)
Also , gabble I have been told just works.
No, telepathy-haze is just another Telepathy Connection Manager. Read
the text you just shared:
Haze: A connection manager based on Pidgin's libpurple, supporting all
protocols in Pidgin (AIM, ICQ, Yahoo, MSN, etc) at a basic level, but
already very usable.
libpurple uses GConf's system proxy
I'm surprised that in 2011 such bug still exists ???!!!
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I would like to repeat my question to Nicolas or anyone else qualified
to answer (i.e. with whatever committing privileges are required). What
would be needed to fix this, and would it be possible with a drive-by
contribution amount of work? I definitely can't promise anything for
time reasons,
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I already explained many times how to fix this *right now* (in fact more
than one year ago). See comment #76.
The fact of the matter is that Ubuntu people don't care, otherwise they
would have marked it as critical as I suggested in comment #79. It will
be on the next release cycle somebody said
Ahem, Felipe, do you have commit rights, either upstream or down? That
doesn't relate to the quality of what you are saying, but in this
situation having a committer to back your changes is as important as
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See comment #92, #93 and #94; the fix is known to work.
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Perhaps I am misunderstanding something, but as a telepathy-idle user is
that relevant to me? In a pinch I will go back to pidgin of course, but
I would prefer a proper fix in empathy.
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@Michael telpathy-haze has support for IRC too.
AIM, facebook, gadugadu, groupwise, IRC, ICQ, jabber, local XMPP, MSN,
QQ, sametime, sipe, yahoo, zephyr, mxit, and sip; IOW what libpurple
(Pidgin) supports.
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@Nicolas - what is the current state for telepathy-idle? Is this
working in any upstream version or not done yet at all? And if not,
what is actually needed? How much do the GIO APIs differ from the BSD
socket ones?
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@DiagonalArg: The system proxy setings should support for different kind
of proxies.
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@papukaija But that's the problem; GNOME guys don't want to implement
HTTP Connect in GIO, and libproxy guys interpret gnome-network-
properties wrongly. So in reality HTTP Connect is not supported at all,
nor is it planned to any time soon. But that's ok according to the
developers, because less
I opened bug #715821 about syncing glib-networking from Debian.
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How about people following this bug mention what type of proxy support
they need? (socks, http, etc.)
In my company we use HTTP proxy.
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How about people following this bug mention what type of proxy support they
need? (socks, http, etc.)
I need socks.
As with pidgin, I need individual settings for each account.
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Small update.
Some Telepathy CM's such as gabble (XMPP) and butterfly (MSN) now have
some proxy support, however, they depend on libproxy doing the right
thing (which it usually doesn't). So essentially they still don't work.
A more generic solution should be implemented in GLib, however, they
Wocky implements HTTP proxy, so it should work fine with recent Gabble
if libproxy is properly configured.
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@Guilliame Right, *if* you have at least GLib 2.26, and *if* you have
the corresponding glib-networking (which is not packaged in Ubuntu), and
*if* you have libproxy 0.4.6 (0.3.1 in Ubuntu), and *if* you have the
exact right configuration in GConf (not Use the same proxy for all
protocols), and
When I first started working on proxy in Telepathy there was two ways
this could be fixed. The quick way would have been to implement it in
every single network oriented application. To do so you just have to
find another project that match licence, copy paste some code do basic
testing and your
@Nicolas
But the fact is that this method had never worked.
Grep for pidgin in this thread. That method works. In fact, it's the
only one that does. That's why this bug exists and people are annoyed;
the default IM client used to work (Pidgin), now it doesn't (Empathy).
What I would have done
How about people following this bug mention what type of proxy support they
need? (socks, http, etc.)
Personally, my university (Tec Monterrey), and the companies I've worked
for (Texas Instruments, and Nokia), they all have used an HTTP proxy for
everything (HTTP Connect). And all the proxy
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I believe that linux is a great os, but if we can't use it for years
Is so that difficult to solve this bug? I am on 10.10 and the bug isn't
already solved.
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Bug exists in Ubuntu 10.10
Please fix this bug. Its annoying that ubuntu is shipping applications
these days with no proxy support. I have been searching ways to run
empathy and gwibber behind proxy for last 2 days. Its frustrating.
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Thank you Pablo.
I got google talk working now, but I can't find any option to connect to
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Under telepathy-haze, to connect to facebook use jabber to
youru...@chat.facebook.com and disable Require encription.
Notice tough that empathy doesn't support conferencing under telepathy-
haze, only old-fashioned chat as if it was 1999, heh.
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I can not confirm this bug, for me ICQ, Facebook Chat, Google Talk, all
work behind a proxy.
The only exception is MSN which has its own bug report (Bug #579281).
But even MSN will work if telepathy-butterfly is removed so telepathy-
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I confirm this bug in empathy 2.30.2-0ubuntu1, on ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS.
steps to reproduce:
1. setup (add) a Jabber account in empathy (i.e. GTalk)
2. verify that you CANNOT connect to jabber server directly, without http_prxy
(i.e. you can setup iptable rule to drop direct connections to jabber
@ Micha
I am behind a proxy at an university campus.
I just tested it and you are correct that I am able to connect to Gtalk
and Facebook chat even when I remove the global proxy settings. My
browser, MSN, ICQ, synaptic, and so forth however do not work, so I
assumed the proxy settings would be
Yahoo is working through GNOME proxy from v2.31.91.1. Using Ubuntu
Maverick Beta. But no application level proxy preferences yet. In my
office, GTalk works without proxy and Yahoo works only through proxy.
Pidgin gives me this flexibility where as Empathy doesn't.
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Problem still not fixed please let me know when problem resolved, I have
to use pidgin in my office :(
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sudo apt-get remove telepathy-gabble telepathy-butterfly
did the trick
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The bad thing is that under telepathy-haze video calls don't work.
Strange, because in pidgin they do.
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libpurple has support for video, all telepathy-haze has to do is
implement the wrapper from libpurple to telepathy... but that's not
implemented yet (perhaps never).
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I just tested this in Lucid (64bit). It indeed seams to be fixed!
Google Talk, ICQ, and facebook chat seem to work fine.
MSN did work, but i think its blocked by the university (in pidgin it only
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Empathy has nothing to do with proxy stuff, connection issues and so
on. You need to check which specific telepathy CM you are using. That
should be easy to check with 'ps -A | grep telepathy'. My guess would be
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Confirmed what #87 guessed: telepathy-haze works ok (trough libpurple,
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telepathy=butterfly, and restarting gnome.
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This *IS* already long, and winding, and partially boring.
Let me nevertheless update the discussion to Lucid:
No, System-Wide at Network Proxy Preferences does not set any proxy at all;
at least I can't find any being used. It should apply to apt-get, as well as
the Terminal Session (Gnome
Everyone affected by this bug should also sign up for Bug #516032 (add-
apt-repository not working behind a proxy) and Bug #387308 (ubuntu one
not working behind proxy), as they are sure to be affected as well.
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