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Really a bad way to solve such problems.
I created a new Bug 575920 so we all can subscribe (This bug affects
me) to show that this was not what we wanted.
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Really, why does GNOME have to remove all options nowadays?
Can't they at least keep various options still available through gconf-editor ?
I mean in Karmic the new login screen already removed various options.
I understand that they want to simplify things BUT they could at least keep
various
Here you go.
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=605608
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reaction to this change has been almost universally negative. Please
give the button back, or teach nautilus to save the toggle state as it
was previously set, on subsequent window openings.
as has been said over and over, Ctrl + L is not an acceptable answer. it
is not a toggle, it is either
This is not the correct bug for discussion of whether the change should
be reverted or whether there should be an option; this particular just
happens to have been effectively fixed with the removal of the button.
That was an upstream decision, and is best discussed at the GNOME
bugzilla or
reaction to this change has ...
let's rather say than only users annoyed by the change open bugs about
it or complain on forums, those who like changes usually are quiet about
it so it's hard to tell if what you see is a vocal minority or
reflecting users opinion
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@Spang: ACK about the idiot proof thing. May you provide a link to were
you've proposed this upstream?
I have to proposals in this matter (though I'd most like to have the button
back):
a) include a setting (in the preferences dialog, not in the main ui) for
@David:
Yes, I found the ctrl+L keys. Only, it's not a toggle. But more
importantly, it's a right hand key combo. In my opinion right hand key
combo's slow down computer interaction, as you have to move your hand
from mouse to keyboard. And even if it was a left hand one. Nautilus
interaction is
Spang, you have some good arguments and I suggest you take them
upstream -- I am only in a position to consider this bug fixed (or
not). I am merely evaluating the impact on the user experience
detailed in this paper cut after the fact.
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And so I did.
Unlike the min,max,close discussion, this call was made upstream.
A bit too used at coming to launchpad.
;)
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I'm sorry but removing the button is somewhat a poor fix if you ask me.
I'm really missing that toggle button.
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Spang, maybe it is, but the confusion caused by the button has been
removed. In user testing, we observed people clicking on this toggle
button in an attempt to create new documents simply because the icon
had a document in it.
PS: Did you know you can use ctrl-L to toggle it now?
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David, was this an upstream change? I couldn't find a reference to it in
the changelogs (upstream and Ubuntu).
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David: I'm not saying it was a bad move, but was testing done /after/
the icon was changed? In Karmic the icon is a pencil. I hope that wasn't
the sole reason for the change..
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@Murat Güneş:
Yes this was an upstream Nautilus change. This was part of the new Extra pane
nautilus overhaul. I dont think they intended to fix this bug. But rather mare
more space for the widgets and this was a side-effect ;-)
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Not an issue anymore , since that icon has been removed.
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Closing icon theme task
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That is correct, Lucid no longer has the location bar toggle icon, which this
bug is about.
To activate the location bar go to Go Location or type the Ctrl-L
keyboard combination.
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Improved in Lucid? As far as I see the icon has been removed altogether
in 2.29.92.1. I like the new layout, but I'd have preferred an option to
enable this icon again.
Without the icon more users will overlook this feature, and use the
mouse to navigate. The Location mode is nice to copy-paste
I have marked this Wont Fix in hundredpapercuts, as the icon was
ultimately improved in Lucid. I would like to propose a similar paper
cut -- Hide location bar by default -- for Lucid.
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I won't mark this as fixed in Karmic, but the new edit icon is an
improvement!
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I personally think that the button should toggle between an some kind of
icon representing a mouse/cursor (to switch to breadcrumb mode where you
click on buttons) and one representing a keyboard (to switch to text
entry mode).
It makes sense to me because most users click the buttons in icon
I like the idea of a mix of both systems.
Perhaps where there would be small buttons directly under the path folder names.
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I would also like to be able to drag a file onto a folder button to move
the file to that folder, or drag a folder button out to create a symlink
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@PCZahra Drag a file onto a folder button in graphical location bar has
been implemented in karmic. You can already drag and drop a folder out
from the graphical location bar. Just hold down alt when dragging the
folder down to make a symlink.
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I agree with keeping the pencil or the pencil and paper icon. Other
suggestions for replacement icons are confusing to describe when guiding
people over the phone. Some of the icons suggested are already intended
for font menus and can cause further confusion.
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I'd just like to add that I'd rather not have any of the icons that
feature text prominently.
They are easily mistaken to be part of the path and would thus confuse
anyone who tries to use the path anywhere (or even just write it down).
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concerning c#23
Letters should not be framed : button already provides a frame that makes 2
frames, unless you want to imitate a keyboard key like suggested in c#14
See mockup attached : either show a letter, or a key but not something between
Anyway, since current icon is not so bad, i don't
The Humanity icon set ,as of now, has a nice icon of a pencil alone in the
location toggle.
Using the pencil alone is a good metaphor , indicates something can be written
and is far more representative that any other alternative solutions proposed
here.
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I'm going to have to go with Kalle and say that the real solution is to
redesign the location bar. Also, I'm going to have to say that this
papercut is not a bug in any icon set, but with nautilus. You can't
change the icon without affecting other apps that use that icon
properly.
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Having discussed a better metaphor for the the icon together with David
Siegel, I suggest Nautilus should use this icon instead.
It will signal text entry to the user and when toggled users won't
have any hard time getting back to breadcrumb mode since they will
remember what button they clicked.
I've built a simple patch to change ONLY the icon of the ubuntu partition to
the ubuntu logo (no emblems).
I also forwarded it upstream here:
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=586488
direct link to patches:
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=137087
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I vote for a new icon only. Two Alt+PrtScr and 15mins in GIMP resulted
in the attachment here. The final icon should be less theme-like (say
more symbolic) and *.svg.
I like the fact that in a Linux Desktop nearly every text is selectable!
So I would miss the textfield mode of Nautilus paths. The
Why not have both in the one widget? Clickable and typeable. This
would have to be done very well not to be annoying. I believe the Google
Chrome browser has something like this, as does the Linkify extension
for Firefox.
and
Better yet, why not get rid of the toggle button and make the
Why not have both in the one widget? Clickable and typeable. This
would have to be done very well not to be annoying. I believe the Google
Chrome browser has something like this, as does the Linkify extension
for Firefox.
and
Better yet, why not get rid of the toggle button and make the
See attached for a basic idea - I would've expanded further but I never
realised how awfully Gimp handles layers!
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A few suggestions :
1°) why not a T icon, like these usually find to express something related to
font stuff ?
(something like
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/wowwiki/images/thumb/e/e0/Icon-font.svg/120px-Icon-font.svg.png
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2°) considering that the function is close to a CLI/GUI choice,
I believe a pencil alone, without the paper, is a clear metaphor and
wouldn't be confused with creating a new document or opening the text
editor.
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Without any prior knowledge of what that button does, I really would
have no idea what it does, with the pencil icon, or any other suggested
icons. And I certainly don't think putting text in the icon would be a
fitting metaphor either. At that point, we might as well just change it
to say Edit
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Why not have both in the one widget? Clickable and typeable. This would
have to be done very well not to be annoying. I believe the Google
Chrome browser has something like this, as does the Linkify extension
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I too use the toggle button fairly often. I am used to using the command
line a lot, so being able to enter the full path with support for
directory completion is very convenient. If you are in a deeply nested
folder, it's easier though to just click on one of the parent folders
instead of having
One possibility for an appropriate icon would be a stylized miniature of
the location field itself.
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Better yet, why not get rid of the toggle button and make the
location-bar-as-text-field an advanced option to be enabled in Nautilus
preferences or a menu? My intuition is that location-bar-as-text-field
is a feature primarily for advanced users, and that we might make
Nautilus easier to use,
That option is already there. GtkFileChooser doesn't that setting
though. Either way, the current situation is ugly, and isn't
particularly nice for users (either basic, or advanced). It's doubly
confusing for Windows users migrating, as it was a text entry until
Vista, and in Vista+ it's an
I wouldn't like going to a preference option each time I want to toggle. I
use the buttons primarily, but there are often cases when the line is
helpful too - and the button being right there is awfully helpful.
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I think there is nothing wrong with the stock GTK edit icon. Rather, the
problem is that a button for showing/hiding the path field in a file
manager should not be using an edit icon in the first place. The
object is not to edit anything, it is to enter a path.
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Could you suggest a better icon to use or an another change?
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»go-jump« is the icon most closely associated with address fields. But
it would still make a poor choice. Especially because there would be an
awkward cluster of arrows in that corner (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fingerpost ).
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It would also be weird, as it's not the equivalent function to the go
button in browser address fields. Clicking it does not take you to the
location you've typed in (which you can't type in until you click the
button in the first place).
On Thu, 2009-06-11 at 12:05 +, Tobias Wolf wrote:
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The icon is horrible anyway. It's used in other places as well
(GtkFileChooser uses it the same way Nautilus does), as it's a stock
gtk+ icon. If anyone can come up with a better metaphor for a generic
edit action (good luck), I'll gladly get the icon changed in gnome-
icon-theme. I would rather
Would be nice if somebody could open this bug upstream too
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Reported in upstream Nautilus module. I'm not sure if it needs reporting
in gnome-icon-theme as well; probably not, since the issue is not with
the icon per se, but with the fact that Nautilus makes use of it.
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(Filed as per the UDS-Karmic Death by a 100 paper cuts session, where
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- The icon used in the button that toggles the Nautilus address bar (in
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