As you may have seen in other bugs, I've been working on rebuilding some
packages for those running without pulseaudio:
https://launchpad.net/~dtl131/+archive/ppa
ALSA users will be interested in the gnome packages. OSS/4 users will also want
the canberra packages.
NOTE: don't install the
Dave, thanks for your work! It helps a lot. I have full control of my
Creative SB Audigy card again.
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Not sure about what entity you are speaking about there but upstream and
ubuntu would probably happy to review any constructive changeset, and no
undoing the work done in the recent cycles to go back to an old, buggy
and unmaintained codebase is not a solution we would be wanting to use
there,
you should also not use the number of comments as a metric there, 36
comments is a pretty low count compared to some other bugs and that just
shows that the current audio stack has still issues, which is something
we know about, not that going back to old technologies rather than
fixing what we
No one here suggests to go back to old technologies. There is nothing to
go back to. ALSA is still Ubuntu's soundsystem. And it will stay there
in the future. The point is to have a choice to switch off unnecessary
component - pulseaudio, just like compiz and other bellswhistles: one
choice - one
Sebastien can correct me if I'm wrong or out of line, but I don't think
the problem is that anyone is against having a check-box to switch off
pulse audio. The problem is that pulseaudio was developed or added in a
way that makes the actual work of enabling and disabling it a lot more
complicated
** Changed in: gnome-media (Ubuntu)
Status: Invalid = Confirmed
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I've changed the status of this bug to confirmed for one simple
reason: More than one person has reported the same error with the same
symptoms. You can add me to that list as well - ripping that pulseaudio
crap from my system fixed my sound problems.
Sebastian, you claim the Ubuntu team
Currently you can solve the problem in karmic:
1. Remove pulseaudio and gstreamer0.10-pulseaudio.
2. upgrade from this ppa: https://launchpad.net/~dtl131/+archive/ppa
3. remove the new volume applet, corrupted with pulseaudio, from
gnome-session-properties.
4. add restored old volume control
I agree with the last two paragraphs of post #33.
The increased instability of Ubuntu scares me, since it is a real threat
to new users. Although I get frustrated myself, I have some experience
of fixing things even when the problem does not follow a common -nix
logic. I have brought a number of
Sorry if I'm missing something, but doesn't removing the packages in
step one also remove thing like the desktop package? Won't that break
you on updates or upgrades?
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ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage, that does not contain anything. It is safe to
remove it.
You can then just mark it for installation to see if something new was added to
it's dependencies, and then decide if you want to install this something
manually, without actually installing
Psy, thanks for the help, but before I go down that unsupported of a
route, I'll go back to Gentoo. I switched to Ubuntu because I was
getting tired of doing so much work to roll my own. I didn't expect to
be so broken by the switch.
You have Ubuntu closing bugs saying you have to use Pulse
For people disappointed with PulseAudio - see:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8130297postcount=25
Those scripts allow You to have a fully functional Karmic sound setup without
PulseAudio.
First, execute the following in a terminal:
$ sudo apt-get purge libcanberra-pulse pulseaudio
I am experiencing the same problem. Pulseaudio has been bad to my
architecture since it was released. What I am amazed at iis the fact
that before pulseaudio, once the card was configured with alsa the
setup was very stable. I could run any application with no problem. THen
comes pulseaudio
Having this problem too. 5.1 output in Pulseaudio makes sound damaged,
so I removed PA. ALSA sound is clean, but no volume control applet, so I
can't control volume from my keyboard (there is volume whell).
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Great..this is all just great. Now my favorite native game is broken and
the FPS drop is extreme..good job
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I've migrated to Xubuntu. It doesn't use PulseAudio and runs much faster
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Insulting people is not how you get them to work on your issues, nobody
deny that pulseaudio has issues and it has been talked over and over all
over the place, the ubuntu team doesn't have ressources to undo GNOME
changes which force the pulseaudio use and decided to work with the
people writting
Real problem is not just the mixer :(
Pulseaudio don't work with 5.1 sound properly. When switch to 5.1 sound from
default mixer (this one, the new mixer and pulseaudio installed) I hear sound
artefacts (just adjust volume up or down and ugliest sound is here). Audacious
play ugly too when
another examples: launching zynaddsubfx either breaks playback for everything
else, or sound does not work in it.
Launching it with padsp results in garbled sound.
...but the real problem is not the mixer, but volume control: there is no
volume control from panel and keyboard without pulseaudio,
Could you stop spamming this closed bug now, if you have issues with
pulseaudio open bugs against it rather that would be constructive
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I've got the same problem. Sebastien, you should acknowledge that a lot of
people have problems after upgrading the system.
PulseAudio is a crap. I don't really understand why I need this nonworking
between application and ALSA.
All multimedia applications can output sound through ALSA
I agree that fixing pulseaudio is a constructive course of action.
But: I disagree with no bug - no problem policy. In this case closed bug does
not mean that problem isn't there!
And second: I am fully agree with Dmitry: pulseaudio is just bells and whistles
that should be *optional*! Jaunty
The fact that removing unnecessary component breaks basic functions, points out
that current design is really flawed.
If I remove compiz, metacity will not go berserk because of that.
But such rabid forcing of incomplete and buggy soundsystem is really
surprising.
While pulseaudio can't
Which component now handles XF86Audio*Volume buttons by default? is in
possible to manually change associated commands there instead of
creating custom actions in gnome-keybindings-properties?
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gnome-settings-daemon handle those keys and it's not easy to change it
since it's not a command run but a service running and handling lot of
settings in GNOME, efforts would be better spent making sure pulseaudio
works correctly for everybody since that's where the linux world is
aligning anyway
That's not a bug but a design decision from upstream and not something
ubuntu will change now, closing the bug, you are free to use universe
mixer controling alsa though there is plenty of those
** Changed in: gnome-media (Ubuntu)
Status: New = Invalid
** Changed in: gnome-media (Ubuntu)
the changes described before would be quite some extra packaging efforts
and break upgrades since the mixer applet wouldn't be replaced on
upgrade and duplicate the new one, it's easier to install universe
mixers for those who want those
** Changed in: gnome-media (Ubuntu)
Importance: Low =
and what about keyboard shortcuts? adding custom commands is not a very
clean workaround.
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you are on your own about this one, the gnome-settings-daemon codebase
is totally different and both can't be built there
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