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days.]
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Alan Pope, this bug was reported a while ago and there hasn't been any
activity in it recently. We were wondering if this is still an issue? If
so, could you please test for this with the latest development release
of Ubuntu? ISO images are available from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com
Maverick EOL - Won't Fix.
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On precise (fresh install):
Alt-PrtScn does a full-screen screenshot (screenshot is taken when I
release Alt). My keyboard settings pane still says that Alt-Print should
screenshot a single window.
I haven't run sysctl and my sysrq value seems to have defaulted to 1:
$ cat
Florian Sievers (#31) is right: in a clean Maverick install, 'cat
/proc/sys/kernel/sysrq' (or 'sudo sysctl -a | grep kernel.sysrq') shows
kernel.sysrq=0 , but in fact sysrq's are enabled (and eating up
Alt+PrtScn). If i set it as 'sudo sysctl -w kernel.sysrq=0', supposedly
it wouldn't change
Is this bug still propagating to new versions, or has it been fixed?
Regards,
Art in Carlisle PA USA
Dave Walker wrote:
This is not a new regression for Oneiric and is therefore not suitable
for inclusion in the release notes. The prior release notes have
shipped, and therefore marking task
This is not a new regression for Oneiric and is therefore not suitable
for inclusion in the release notes. The prior release notes have
shipped, and therefore marking task as Invalid.
Thanks.
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Why is this Invalid, it doesn't make sense because it's reproducible.. and
affects thousands of people..
Its still a issue with 10.10
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FN+PRTSC works perfect on toshiba satellite l500 laptop FN+ALT+PRTSC
doesnt do anything
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Still broken on Natty.
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Not broken for me anymore. I'm in 11.04, fresh install.
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It works for me again after installing 11.04. But I did a complet new
install, not an upgrade, cause that messed up two of my systems. Maybe
it's different when just doing an upgrade from 11.04.
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Well, I can set Alt+PrtScn as a shortcut, but it's interpreted as
Alt+SysRq. Don't know what impact would that have on Magic SysRq Keys.
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I have just done an install of 10.10 64 bit then an upgrade to 11.04,
alt+prtscr now works as expected and takes a screenshot of the current
window.
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Until now, I thought it was a kernel bug... But it works fine in Fedora
15.
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I have always used left Alt for both screenshots and SysRq events.
There's never been a problem in my system because of that.
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Miroslav:
Do you have laptop or desktop?
I'm using a desktop.
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My understanding of Alt+PrtScr/SysRq was always like that:
LeftAlt+PrtScr/SysRq produces screenshot of active window
RightAlt+PrtScr/SysRq produces SysRq event
On some keyboards RightAlt is labeled as Alt Gr.
In Ubuntu 10.10 LeftAlt+PrtScr/SysRq produces SysRq
and I think that's wrong.
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I've always used RightAlt+PrtScr in Ubuntu and Windows to take a
snapshot of the active window.
I'm still using Lucid (partly because of this bug as I often take
snapshots for instructional purposes) and both LeftAlt+PrtScr and
RightAlt+PrtScr take snapshot the active window.
On 24 February 2011
Graham Inggs
Do you have laptop or desktop?
On the laptop there is usually need for use of
Fn+PrtScrn/SysRq combination to get SysRq event.
In my case Fn+PrtScrn/SysRq does the same what
PrtScrn alone does (...) and I get SysRq event by using
LeftAlt+PrtScr/SysRq or RightAlt+PrtScr/SysRq,
what
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tonnzor is absolutely correct in post #53 ... personally I have used
Alt+PrtScrn for a windowshot thousands of times on all releases of
Windows and an older Ubuntu Linux as well as Linux Mint 8 and 9 (it is
'broken' on Mint 10). I have never used SysRq in my many years of
computing and so I don't
@Oliver: Alt+SysRq works as expected on my laptop. It's just that
Alt+PrtScn duplicates that function.
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I just checked the latest Natty 11.04 daily: both Alt+PrtScn and
Alt+PrtScn+REISUB work again as expected.
@Fibonacci: I don't have a separate SysReq key. If it still does nothing
in Natty and you want to change that, I'd propose to open a new bug
report, as this one is about the broken
Rather than setting SysRq to Ctrl-Alt-PrintScreen, as it's done with other
keybindings such as Alt-Fx - Ctrl-Alt-Fx, or completely disabling it, I'd just
change the keybindings:
* PrintScreen: Save Screenshot dialog
* Shift+PrintScreen: Save Screenshot dialog for current window
Additionally,
I'd just change the keybindings
That would break well-known user experience. Users are used to press
PrintScreen/Alt+PrintScreen on all platforms (even Windows).
If there's a choice between breaking SysRq and Alt+PrintScreen - we should
consider breaking SysRq, because:
* Making single window
Why not grabbing Alt+PrtScn when it is pressed alone, but allowing it to
pass through to the kernel as a SysRq event when it is pressed together
with another key and ONLY IF SysRq is actually on the PrtScn key?
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Me too. Print Screen works, Alt+Print Screen/SysRq does not. Ubuntu
10.10.
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Prt Screen works
ALT+F2 + gnome-screenshot -w works
Alt+Prt Screen doesnt for me.. (clean Ubutun 10.10)
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Prt Screen works
Alt+Prt Screen doesnt for me.. :(
clean Ubutun 10.10 + latests updates.
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@Oli Actually it's blocking Alt+PrtScn. As I stated before, SysRq is on
a different physical key on my laptop, yet Alt+PrtScn is blocked.
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@William: HP Nc6400.
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The issue is more in kernel preempting the call than in any window
manager.
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It should be marked as invalid on Metacity too, then.
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@Fibonacci It has nothing to do with the window manager (metacity,
compiz, whatever) because it's the kernel. It's blocking the sysrq key
permeating to the rest of the system.
You can prove this very easily in xev.
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Fibonacci, what model laptop do you have?
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I'm currently using a Spanish keyboard layout, and up until Lucid I
could both take a screenshot with Alt+PrtScn and use magic SysRq keys
without additional modifier keys (so e.g. Alt+PrtScn+B rebooted the
system). Now I'm experiencing this bug.
There is no reason to change the old behaviour. If
Also, this happens on Compiz too, so it's not Metacity-exclusive.
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Just tried and reproduced this bug on my laptop too.
Problem is, on my laptop's keyboard, PrtScn and SysRq are on different physical
keys. So the automatic interpretation of Alt+PrtScn as a SysRq event is not
only counter-intuitive, it's plain wrong.
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** Description changed:
Binary package hint: xkeyboard-config
On an EN-GB keyboard (and maybe others) ALT+PrtSc is the default
keyboard shortcut for Take a screenshot of a window as configured in
System - Preferences - Keyboard Shortcuts. However the system doesn't
seem to respond to
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Milestone: None = maverick-updates
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I'm only a user and from a user point of view I must say: If it's not broken
don't try to fix it. I believe I speak for many users who are used to do
Alt+PrtScn to capture for ever. Even if this is right, don't try to re-educate
the entire pc user population as this will result in general
I can confirm that alt+print doesn't work on my up to date ubuntu 10.10
amd64.
Workaround:
sudo sysctl -w kernel.sysrq=0
This needs to be fixed soon or many user will get annoyed!
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Is this (sudo sysctl -w kernel.sysrq=0) a permanent thing or should I do
it every time I boot?
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Now the release is out, any chance this can be looked at for a 10.10
SRU?
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Oli [2010-10-04 16:32 -]:
But if the patch by Dmitry Torokhov is the cause of this behavioural
change (which it does look like it could be - it's making sysrq bypass
evdev)
Yes, I agree, this seems to be it. I checked with /lib/udev/keymap -i,
and SysRq doesn't produce an evdev event, as
The drawback for me at least (even if I don't really care that
Alt+printscreen isn't taking any more window screenshot) is that the
dedicated key combination (which is Fn + print screen here) doesn't work
at all anymore. I had to use it some times in the development release,
and I couldn't and
With USA layout, I was able to do Alt+PrtSc in Lucid, and also Alt+SysRq+K
But same USA layout, in Maverick I can *not* do a Alt+PrtSc , but can
Alt+SysRq+K.
If i change the shortcut from Keyboard Shortcuts, i can not even again set it
to Alt+Print , but i can set to every other combo.
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We just asked a KDE user on irc to test and ALT+PrScr does _not_ take a
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in the keyboard configuration screen on Kubuntu it refused to accept
ALT+PrScr as a valid keypress.
The key you just pressed is not supported by Qt
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If alt+prscr is really rendering a sysrq event, it would appear that
sysrq is not a bindable event. I can't get it to show up in anything
(including xev).
While I can see the technical argument for making alt trigger the
alternate key, the solution in the latest kernel is at least 10 years
too
Is this metacity specific? I'm on compiz, using an en_US keyboard
layout, and the printscreen key has behaved the same as it used to do in
the last 15 years or so: PrintScr does a screenshot, and Alt+PrintScr is
SysRq, just as printed on the key.
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It's always been the case, on both GNOME and Windows that ALT+PrtScrn
takes a screenshot of the active Window. This is a really bad regression
from a user experience POV, especially for non-technical users that take
screenshots of active windows to send when they have issues.
If we are now saying
Alan Pope [2010-10-04 9:19 -]:
@Martin, tried under Lucid? ALT+PrScr used to snapshot a window.
Yes, I am both using SysRq and PrintScr regularly, and I didn't notice
a problem in lucid either. Maybe it's really specific to en-GB, I'm
not using that (only en-US and de-nodeadkeys).
If
I'm using a USA keyboard layout and Alt+PrScr does indeed take a
screenshot for me in Lucid.
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I'm using an de_DE keyboard and till 10.04 Alt+PrtSc, a screenshot of
the active windows was taken, as specified in the keyboard settings and
as default behavior for many Linux Distributions and even Windows. The
SysRq is only useful, if you press an additional key. And SysRq was
working too in
Oli [2010-10-04 11:42 -]:
While I can see the technical argument for making alt trigger the
alternate key, the solution in the latest kernel is at least 10 years
too late.
I don't believe that Maverick's kernel changed anything in that
regard; the SysRq key functionaly has been pretty much
@Martin, tried under Lucid? ALT+PrScr used to snapshot a window.
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I've been training users for about five years that alt-printscreen takes
that picture they need to attach for there bug report. Alt-PrintScreen
has previously worked for the current window + more recently, since bug
#74008 was resolved.
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KDE. Is Kubuntu showing the same problem?
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http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-
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Martin Pitt:
Do you have proof (or a patch) which would actually identify this as a
kernel change?
The only proof I had was anecdotal: I started using 2.6.35 on Lucid long
before upgrading to Maverick. Alt-PrintScreen was broken back then,
before any of Maverick's X changes were near my system.
On Mon, Oct 04, 2010 at 12:49:23PM -, Martin Pitt wrote:
Oli [2010-10-04 11:42 -]:
While I can see the technical argument for making alt trigger the
alternate key, the solution in the latest kernel is at least 10 years
too late.
I don't believe that Maverick's kernel changed
From my POV the patch should be reverted, cause you can bypass evdev
after emitting Ctrl+Alt+SysRq+R. Also, Alt+SysRq under X is taking
screenshots since I use Linux (~11years). I don't see any need for this
patch. And I don't see, why Ubuntu should work another way than all
other distros at
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marking RC as noone could tell me in -desktop and -devel that this was
an explicitly decided change somewhere.
IMO, if we cannot find out why this happened, we should let sysrq
regress in kernel default settings until we find the right fix, rather
than a long standing default UI binding.
one
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(Also, bear in mind that when Ctrl+Alt+Backspace was disabled by default
in X, part of the rationale was that you could more effectively kill off
a broken X server using SysRq; so dropping SysRq would have concrete
practical impacts on troubleshooting of stock Ubuntu systems.)
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If we disabled SysRq, will we still be able to Alt+SysRq+K ?
If not, option 2 seems better..
How was Alt+PrtSc possible earlier? What seems to have changed now?
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Gah! i wish lp implemented mid-air clash from bugzilla! I seem to have
opened the page before slangasek commented! :/
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The handling for this key is done by the window manager
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Whilst I agree that it's undesirable to have two parts of the system
fight for the same keypress, it seems this is well known. From
wikipedia:-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key
Under graphical environments (such as Gnome or KDE)
'Alt'+'PrintScrn/SysRq'+key combination generally only
this is clearly a regression. we use alt+printscreen for ages ... in
lucid it worked.
Did anyone find out what was changed this cycle to cause this
regression?
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