[Bug 754583] Re: UIFe: Launcher - update launcher reveal interaction to make it more accessible to first time users

2011-06-14 Thread Didier Roche
** Changed in: unity-2d Status: Fix Committed = Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/754583 Title: UIFe: Launcher - update launcher

[Bug 754583] Re: UIFe: Launcher - update launcher reveal interaction to make it more accessible to first time users

2011-06-14 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
This bug was fixed in the package unity-2d - 3.8.8-0ubuntu1 --- unity-2d (3.8.8-0ubuntu1) oneiric; urgency=low [ Didier Roche ] * new upstream release: - [spread] Corruption when switching workspaces after windows have been moved to other workspaces (LP: #760787) -

[Bug 754583] Re: UIFe: Launcher - update launcher reveal interaction to make it more accessible to first time users

2011-06-13 Thread Florian Boucault
** Changed in: unity-2d Milestone: None = 3.8.8 ** Changed in: unity-2d Status: Confirmed = Fix Committed ** Changed in: unity-2d (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Fix Committed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is

[Bug 754583] Re: UIFe: Launcher - update launcher reveal interaction to make it more accessible to first time users

2011-05-31 Thread Didier Roche
** Changed in: unity-2d (Ubuntu) Status: New = Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/754583 Title: UIFe: Launcher - update launcher reveal

[Bug 754583] Re: UIFe: Launcher - update launcher reveal interaction to make it more accessible to first time users

2011-04-26 Thread Florian Boucault
** Changed in: unity-2d Importance: Medium = High -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/754583 Title: UIFe: Launcher - update launcher reveal interaction

[Bug 754583] Re: UIFe: Launcher - update launcher reveal interaction to make it more accessible to first time users

2011-04-19 Thread John Lea
** Tags added: reviewedbydesign ** Tags removed: udt -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/754583 Title: UIFe: Launcher - update launcher reveal interaction

[Bug 754583] Re: UIFe: Launcher - update launcher reveal interaction to make it more accessible to first time users

2011-04-19 Thread manny
I'm getting a high number of accidental reveals when reaching for my browser's back button on a trackpad. @Jacob am seeing this too. Also i keep forgetting that the launcher is there hidden, so i often leave my mouse at the left border... and i think a lot of new users will not even know where

[Bug 754583] Re: UIFe: Launcher - update launcher reveal interaction to make it more accessible to first time users

2011-04-19 Thread manny
oh and about the blue triangle alert. If the visual limiter/border is implemented (as mentioned on my last post), this blue glow alert can be moved to the limiter/border itself (or just the areas where attention is needed). this would work better for the current default reveal behavior. -- You

[Bug 754583] Re: UIFe: Launcher - update launcher reveal interaction to make it more accessible to first time users

2011-04-19 Thread manny
here is a quick mockup i placed together with what am referring to. notice: -the browser back button is now further away from the screen edge -the alerts now stay visible where they originated. Specially Useful when you have more than 1 alert. Less confusion. -placing pointer on the visual

[Bug 754583] Re: UIFe: Launcher - update launcher reveal interaction to make it more accessible to first time users

2011-04-19 Thread John T. Folden
Perhaps a better solution would be to disable the trigger on the first 50pixels (or whatever) of the left edge when a window is maximized. This way the launcher would never be triggered when a user was actually aiming for the left most toolbar button in a maximized window. I don't believe we need

[Bug 754583] Re: UIFe: Launcher - update launcher reveal interaction to make it more accessible to first time users

2011-04-19 Thread manny
@John T. Folden -50px: hm, the 50px might solve the problem for some, but will create confusion for others, who will be clueless as to why the launcher is not revealing. And to launch the first icon, you would need to point your mouse somewhere else. Some might even think something is wrong with

[Bug 754583] Re: UIFe: Launcher - update launcher reveal interaction to make it more accessible to first time users

2011-04-16 Thread Jacob Johan Edwards
Just a comment: I'm getting a high number of accidental reveals when reaching for my browser's back button on a trackpad. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in Ubuntu.

[Bug 754583] Re: UIFe: Launcher - update launcher reveal interaction to make it more accessible to first time users

2011-04-16 Thread Paul Sladen
Jacob: yeah, I've noticed this too and just highlighted it specifically in bug #763275 (Launcher: auto-hide gets stuck open if point arrives to left-edge via top-left pixel). Although we might want to create a design task about to minimise the false positives from the Launcher appearing when all

[Bug 754583] Re: UIFe: Launcher - update launcher reveal interaction to make it more accessible to first time users

2011-04-14 Thread Florian Boucault
** Also affects: unity-2d Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Changed in: unity-2d Status: New = Confirmed ** Changed in: unity-2d Importance: Undecided = Medium ** Tags added: delta-with-3d -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop

[Bug 754583] Re: UIFe: Launcher - update launcher reveal interaction to make it more accessible to first time users

2011-04-13 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
Jason, the top left corner is part of the left edge. That's why I didn't mention it separately. Martin, the window already has a close button. The Gnome 3 System Settings panes, of which this would eventually become one, don't have redundant Close buttons either. -- You received this bug

[Bug 754583] Re: UIFe: Launcher - update launcher reveal interaction to make it more accessible to first time users

2011-04-12 Thread Didier Roche
Hey Jason, Just a small note on the impact on 1.: We sent yesterday the .pot tempate file and processed the string freeze break so that the translator can have some time to translate. So we need to keep that in mind if we are going to rephrase (we already changed a lot of strings after the

[Bug 754583] Re: UIFe: Launcher - update launcher reveal interaction to make it more accessible to first time users

2011-04-12 Thread Martin Pitt
Could we please make the new dialog halfway HIG friendly, and add a close button? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/754583 Title: UIFe: Launcher - update

[Bug 754583] Re: UIFe: Launcher - update launcher reveal interaction to make it more accessible to first time users

2011-04-12 Thread manny
the new behavior is an improvement, but i already found a problem with the flow. the problem is with the folding and unfolding of icons. when an App icon Pops-out and wobbles, you move your mouse to that area, but if its Folded, ALL the icons Unfold (taking space) and the icon you want moves

[Bug 754583] Re: UIFe: Launcher - update launcher reveal interaction to make it more accessible to first time users

2011-04-11 Thread Neil J. Patel
** Changed in: unity Importance: Undecided = Medium ** Changed in: unity Status: Triaged = Fix Committed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/754583

[Bug 754583] Re: UIFe: Launcher - update launcher reveal interaction to make it more accessible to first time users

2011-04-11 Thread Didier Roche
** Changed in: unity Status: Fix Committed = Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/754583 Title: UIFe: Launcher - update launcher reveal

[Bug 754583] Re: UIFe: Launcher - update launcher reveal interaction to make it more accessible to first time users

2011-04-11 Thread Didier Roche
** Changed in: unity (Ubuntu) Status: Incomplete = Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/754583 Title: UIFe: Launcher - update launcher

[Bug 754583] Re: UIFe: Launcher - update launcher reveal interaction to make it more accessible to first time users

2011-04-11 Thread Conscious User
@Mark: We know that long term muscle memory for corner activation is just as good as the edge approach. You seem to be forgetting that accessing an icon launcher is a two-phase approach: 1 - revealing the launcher 2 - going to the icon Your assumption above is valid for (1) but not for (2),

Re: [Bug 754583] Re: UIFe: Launcher - update launcher reveal interaction to make it more accessible to first time users

2011-04-11 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 11/04/11 15:43, Conscious User wrote: Your assumption above is valid for (1) but not for (2), because (2) does not benefit from Fitt's law and thus distance matters. Imagine a user with a large monitor wanting to access the Trash. Trash is very easy, in fact, since *both* targets are

Re: [Bug 754583] Re: UIFe: Launcher - update launcher reveal interaction to make it more accessible to first time users

2011-04-11 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
So, the official position now is we have the left-edge invocation for testing. We are looking for false positives and other problems. We will decide the default behaviour in due course, but we will retain the UI for the option for Natty either way. Mark -- You received this bug notification

[Bug 754583] Re: UIFe: Launcher - update launcher reveal interaction to make it more accessible to first time users

2011-04-11 Thread Conscious User
@Mark Okay, allow me to rephrase: your assumption is valid for *muscle memory* but not for *efficiency*. Trash does benefit from infinite size, but that does not change the fact that the corner approach requires two movements instead of just one. Not to mention that hovering through all the

[Bug 754583] Re: UIFe: Launcher - update launcher reveal interaction to make it more accessible to first time users

2011-04-11 Thread Jason Warner
I'm loving this feature. I think it adds quite a bit and makes the launcher just that much more discoverable for newbies. Two small suggestions: 1. The wording in the options dialog might read better as: Show the launcher when the pointer: [ ] Pushes left edge or top left corner of the screen

Re: [Bug 754583] Re: UIFe: Launcher - update launcher reveal interaction to make it more accessible to first time users

2011-04-09 Thread Martin Pitt
John T. Folden [2011-04-09 0:23 -]: I think 'LEFT OF SCREEN' REVEAL is a boost to efficiency Not really, as there will inevitably be a necessary delay until it opens, otherwise it'll get too much in the way. As it is now, a user must move the cursor to the top left of the screen ...

[Bug 754583] Re: UIFe: Launcher - update launcher reveal interaction to make it more accessible to first time users

2011-04-09 Thread John T. Folden
Matt, throwing the mouse at the left edge, even with any necessary-but- short delay is still less time/work for the user than the currently inefficient method. Also, having to resort to the keyboard to overcome this issue is not a valid workaround, imo. A user should not have to resort to

[Bug 754583] Re: UIFe: Launcher - update launcher reveal interaction to make it more accessible to first time users

2011-04-08 Thread Conscious User
In my opinion, using only this pressure policy will introduce a constant unwanted delay. I suggest adding to that a momentum-based approach that recognizes whether the mouse was placed or thrown by analysing its speed and acceleration. I'm aware that this does not cover the case where the mouse

Re: [Bug 754583] Re: UIFe: Launcher - update launcher reveal interaction to make it more accessible to first time users

2011-04-08 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
We are doing user testing of the existing code, and this is one of the key issues. So we are getting this bug discussed and some code written in anticipation of a final report on that testing. The challenge is that prior testing showed worse problems in the long term with edge activation. I am

[Bug 754583] Re: UIFe: Launcher - update launcher reveal interaction to make it more accessible to first time users

2011-04-08 Thread manny
For the: The 'TOP left' Launcher reveal I've found that the way its done in unity2d (current version as of date; natty) feels easier than on unity 3d/compiz. The goal of the launcher is to switch between opened or pinned apps easier and quicker, so IMHO unity 2d has the lead here. as for 'LEFT

[Bug 754583] Re: UIFe: Launcher - update launcher reveal interaction to make it more accessible to first time users

2011-04-08 Thread John Lea
** Description changed: Update the Launcher reveal interaction to make it more intuitive to new users. This update involves a number of changes. These individual setting tweaks and changes are all tracked in a single bug because they all need to land to deliver a coherent UX (we

[Bug 754583] Re: UIFe: Launcher - update launcher reveal interaction to make it more accessible to first time users

2011-04-08 Thread Jeremy Bicha
John I don't think that little blue triangle will be noticed by most users. In fact it may even be less visible than the current aqua BFB indicator thing. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in Ubuntu.

[Bug 754583] Re: UIFe: Launcher - update launcher reveal interaction to make it more accessible to first time users

2011-04-08 Thread John T. Folden
I think 'LEFT OF SCREEN' REVEAL is a boost to efficiency and will greatly improve the desktop experience. If a user wants to open an app via the launcher, they can aim directly for where that icon will be when the launcher slides into view. As it is now, a user must move the cursor to the top