Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult

2013-01-31 Thread Aleve Sicofante
2013/1/31 Sam Spilsbury smspil...@gmail.com On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 6:08 AM, OpenLaptop i...@openlaptop.nl wrote: Funny to see this bug is still not fixed sinds 2007 (6 YEARS AGO!!!) Hi. 1. It is fixed in Unity-3D, which has been the default since 12.10 No it's not. I'm using Unity-3D,

Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult

2013-01-31 Thread Sam Spilsbury
On 31/01/2013 8:51 AM, Aleve Sicofante asicofa...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/1/31 Sam Spilsbury smspil...@gmail.com On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 6:08 AM, OpenLaptop i...@openlaptop.nl wrote: Funny to see this bug is still not fixed sinds 2007 (6 YEARS AGO!!!) Hi. 1. It is fixed in Unity-3D,

Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult

2013-01-31 Thread Aleve Sicofante
2013/1/31 Sam Spilsbury smspil...@gmail.com On 31/01/2013 8:51 AM, Aleve Sicofante asicofa...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/1/31 Sam Spilsbury smspil...@gmail.com On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 6:08 AM, OpenLaptop i...@openlaptop.nl wrote: Funny to see this bug is still not fixed sinds 2007 (6

Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult

2013-01-30 Thread Sam Spilsbury
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 6:08 AM, OpenLaptop i...@openlaptop.nl wrote: Funny to see this bug is still not fixed sinds 2007 (6 YEARS AGO!!!) Hi. 1. It is fixed in Unity-3D, which has been the default since 12.10 2. It isn't worth fixing in Unity-2D, since it would require extensive patching to

Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult

2013-01-30 Thread Sam Spilsbury
Hi. On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 3:21 PM, latimerio 160...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: That said I want to resize my windows at ANY border not just in the corners or from the title bar. You already can. There's a small amount of invisible padding on every side of the window in Unity3D. This has

Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult

2013-01-04 Thread Sam Spilsbury
Not likely. Adding the invisible window borders to metacity's non-composited mode is likely a nontrivial affair. On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 2:59 PM, axel 160...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: Unity-2D is not supported in never versions and does not have the same fix. ah, thanks for that hint which

Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult

2013-01-03 Thread Sam Spilsbury
Unity-2D is not supported in never versions and does not have the same fix. On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 2:17 PM, axel 160...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: just seems to follow the trend of our time that others seem to know better whats good for you and use their power and ignorance to stick to their

Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult

2012-08-21 Thread Steve Flynn
On 21 August 2012 20:51, Colin Law 160...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: As I understand it unity-2d is to be removed in Quantal(12.10), emulation of 3d being provided by llvmpipe for hardware that does not support it, so that Unity (3d) will run. From that point of view it appears that this bug

Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult

2012-03-21 Thread Jan Bakuwel
On 22/03/12 09:45, Ingo Gerth wrote: Oh my god I can not believe this bug returned recently in 12.04. What a regression! It's like a nightmare! I am starting to think there must be an evil force trying to make the Ubuntu desktop harder to use! First this really annoying persistent bug, then

Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult

2012-03-09 Thread Yann Dìnendal
Renzo: In precise (ubuntu 12.04), you can resize the window by grabbing the overlay scrollbar, which is much larger than the border, and available regardless of the session type (unity-2d or anything else). Yann Dìnendal On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 16:42, Renzo Bagnati

Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult

2011-12-22 Thread The Fiddler
2011/12/22 u-foka ta...@eisenberger.hu Maybe the best would be a configurable size for the hidden grab area :) Currently it's difficult to change, how I seen the size is hardcoded into the theme right? But is this really necessary? Three options: - review feedback and pick a sensible

Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult

2011-12-22 Thread u-foka
Actually the size of the shadow sounds as a good starting point! -- Eisenberger Tamás ta...@eisenberger.hu On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 10:07 AM, The Fiddler 160...@bugs.launchpad.netwrote: 2011/12/22 u-foka ta...@eisenberger.hu Maybe the best would be a configurable size for the hidden grab

Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult

2011-12-22 Thread Steve Flynn
On 22 December 2011 02:21, Paul Sladen ubu...@paul.sladen.org wrote: Steve Flynn: are you on Unity 2D or Unity 3D? 3D. -- Steve When one person suffers from a delusion it is insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion it is called religion. -- You received this bug notification

Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult

2011-12-21 Thread Jan Bakuwel
On 21/12/11 11:32, Nacnud Nosmoht wrote: Broken on Oneiric. And I still haven't seen a fix. And I don't care if this is or isn't a bug, and all the other nuances, I just want a way to be able to resize windows. I can make it work if I have a mouse plugged in, but using the touchpad, with my

Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult

2011-12-21 Thread The Fiddler
2011/12/21 John Lea 160...@bugs.launchpad.net @jan-bakuwel-gmail; in what way is the current Ubuntu window resizing behaviour different from the Microsoft window resizing behaviour? In both Windows and Ubuntu we have several px on the left, right and bottom of the windows that is dragable,

Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult

2011-12-21 Thread The Fiddler
2011/12/21 John Lea 160...@bugs.launchpad.net @stapostol; thanks for your response, I've marked the bug as also affects unity2d. Re. the sizing of the dragable area, in WindowsXP the dragable area is 5px (but it may well be larger in Windows 7). So yes the size could be increased, but 5px

Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult

2011-12-21 Thread u-foka
Hy! I'm a little bit afraid of a larger resize area.. If I click 10px far from a window, I probably want to raise the window below. 5-6px is ok, but more is risky, especially because that area is invisible. Eisenberger Tamás ta...@eisenberger.hu On 12/21/2011 03:56 PM, The Fiddler wrote:

Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult

2011-12-21 Thread Jan Bakuwel
Hi John, On 22/12/11 01:59, John Lea wrote: @jan-bakuwel-gmail; in what way is the current Ubuntu window resizing behaviour different from the Microsoft window resizing behaviour? In both Windows and Ubuntu we have several px on the left, right and bottom of the windows that is dragable, in

Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult

2011-12-21 Thread Steve Flynn
On 21 December 2011 20:54, David N. Welton davidnwel...@gmail.com wrote: Bingo!  My laptop has a very high resolution screen, and this bug drives me batty.  Don't the developers ever test on a system with a high resolution screen and a trackpad? Try using a trackball. Absolute nightmare. --

Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult

2011-12-21 Thread u-foka
Hy! I can grab the 5px areas easily with trackball or touchpad on my T61 (14,1 1440x900), on the other hand, the 1px area is nearly impossible to catch with any display and pointing device. Eisenberger Tamás ta...@eisenberger.hu On 12/21/2011 10:53 PM, Steve Flynn wrote: On 21 December 2011

Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult

2011-12-21 Thread Steve Flynn
On 21 December 2011 22:27, u-foka ta...@eisenberger.hu wrote: Hy! I can grab the 5px areas easily with trackball or touchpad on my T61 (14,1 1440x900), on the other hand, the 1px area is nearly impossible to catch with any display and pointing device. Alienware m15x, 1900 * 1200. If I hit

Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult

2011-12-21 Thread u-foka
Maybe the best would be a configurable size for the hidden grab area :) Currently it's difficult to change, how I seen the size is hardcoded into the theme right? Eisenberger Tamás ta...@eisenberger.hu On 12/22/2011 01:26 AM, Steve Flynn wrote: On 21 December 2011 22:27,

Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult

2011-08-22 Thread Sam Spilsbury
On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 8:05 PM, The Fiddler 160...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: 2011/8/21 Sam Spilsbury smspil...@gmail.com Invisible borders are not implemented in unity-2d Are they technically infeasible or could they be implemented with some effort? If so, where should they be implemented?

Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult

2011-08-22 Thread Sam Spilsbury
On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 9:22 PM, Fabien Tassin f...@ubuntu.com wrote: yep, it regressed for me too. and to make the matter worse, the gtk resize grip in the bottom-right corner is gone too (or at least it's gone when using gnome-shell, not sure about unity) They will be back once we work out

Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult

2011-08-21 Thread The Fiddler
2011/8/21 RussianNeuroMancer 160...@bugs.launchpad.net Now it's again issue in Oneiric. In both unity and unity2d. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title:

Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult

2011-08-21 Thread Sam Spilsbury
Invisible borders are not implemented in unity-2d On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 4:43 PM, The Fiddler 160...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: 2011/8/21 RussianNeuroMancer 160...@bugs.launchpad.net Now it's again issue in Oneiric. In both unity and unity2d. -- You received this bug notification because

Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult

2011-08-21 Thread The Fiddler
2011/8/21 Sam Spilsbury smspil...@gmail.com Invisible borders are not implemented in unity-2d Are they technically infeasible or could they be implemented with some effort? If so, where should they be implemented? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu

Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult

2011-07-26 Thread Marcus Haslam
I'm out of the office until 1st August. On 21 Apr 2011, at 09:11, Peter 160...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: thanks to scaine #58 for something that works can't believe it took 4 years for some to realise windows that are extremely difficult to grab the sides of is not the intention of a

Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult

2011-07-18 Thread LeadMan
[cut] Are you running unity-window-decorator? ps aux | grep unity-window-decorator On one of my machines I have similar issue. unity-window-decorator is not running. After: $ compiz --replace $ unity-window-decorator --replace border is more than 1px. Which package should I re/install to

Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult

2011-07-17 Thread richard
Worked for me with a fresh install. Extra grab space is on the outside of the window in the shadow area Please excuse brevity and pistakes this email was composed on a mobile phone. Thanks and best regards, Richard -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu

Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult

2011-07-16 Thread Sam Spilsbury
On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 10:56 PM, UeB moritz_nad...@gmx.de wrote: It says in this thread that a fix was commited. I upraded to Ubuntu 11.04 using the classic gnome desktop and still my window borders in the ambiance and radiance themes are only 1 pixel wide, so resizing windows with the mouse

Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult

2011-04-21 Thread Sam SmSpillaz Spilsbury
We can't backport it unless we backport compiz too since it is dependent on the reparenting feature of compiz which was introduced in the unstable version in Natty. On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 12:01 AM, Taco Fortgens 160...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: I agree that this should be backported, especialy

Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult

2011-02-14 Thread richard
Its fixed in natty alpha2 R -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult -- desktop-bugs mailing list

Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult [please no more comments; patches welcome]

2011-01-24 Thread The Fiddler
2011/1/24 Neilen Marais launch...@chatsubo.lagged.za.net I think a good modification to the invisible drag handle proposal would be to rather use resize border resistance. This is a solution that won't require more than 1 px of UI space to work well. How I envisage it working is: 1) keep

Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult [please no more comments; patches welcome]

2011-01-02 Thread Jan Bakuwel
Thanks Vish. Would it be possible to amend the following sentence so it reads: + This should mostly be fixed for Natty and *will* get backported to 10.04 and might get backported to earlier releases as well. 10.04 is a LTS after all... thanks, Jan On 03/01/11 07:53, Vish wrote: **

Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult [please no more comments; patches welcome]

2010-12-14 Thread Steve Flynn
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 10:49 PM, Martin Spacek launch...@mspacek.mm.st wrote: Sorry for the noise, but as others have pointed out (over the years!), one workaround is using ALT+middle mouse button to resize from anywhere within a window. Just want to add that there's a key in gconf that let's

Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult [please no more comments; patches welcome]

2010-12-13 Thread LeadMan
[cut] The best fix for this usability bug is to create an invisible region around each non-maximized window about 4px thick that can be used for resizing I would suggest creating this resizing area only _inside_ this window, 4 pixels close to border. Or perhaps there should be a border

Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult [please no more comments; patches welcome]

2010-10-31 Thread Jaap Haitsma
Seem to be solved in GNOME 3 http://blogs.fedoraproject.org/wp/mclasen/2010/10/09/getting-a-grip/ On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 20:48, Ben Shadwick benshadw...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone know if this issue still exists in the current state of Gnome 3? -- Resizing windows by grabbing window

Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult [please no more comments; patches welcome]

2010-10-31 Thread Jan Bakuwel
On 01/11/10 09:20, Ben Shadwick wrote: I'm sad to see that a corner grip is the way they've decided to address things, as it's really just a workaround. +1. So no fix for Gnome 2.x - and a half-fix for Gnome 3? Can't believe the Gnome folks (assuming they're deciding about this) allow

Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult [please no more comments; patches welcome]

2010-10-23 Thread Alden
Brandon, I am working on something that should help to prevent issues like this in the future. We could all donate money and get a patch if needed, but then again only those lucky enough to know about launchpad will be the ones to find it. Upstream may not even take it. I am not sure how long it

Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult [please no more comments; patches welcome]

2010-10-18 Thread Jan Bakuwel
Hi all, I don't want to see this fixed because it works that way in Windows. I want to see it fixed because it is logical to want it to work this way. I do not think it is too much to ask for an advanced operating system to be adapted to the way users use it, instead of forcing users to

Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult [please no more comments; patches welcome]

2010-10-18 Thread John Baer
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 8:46 PM, Jan Bakuwel 160...@bugs.launchpad.netwrote: Hi all, I don't want to see this fixed because it works that way in Windows. I want to see it fixed because it is logical to want it to work this way. I do not think it is too much to ask for an advanced

Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult [please no more comments; patches welcome]

2010-10-17 Thread John Baer
I was unaware of the menu choices presented by right-clicking the title bar. :( That's not a technical issue, that's a training issue. In my opinion the resize option is very usable and makes this bug mute. Would usability improve if folks were encouraged to right-click the title bar by

Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult [please no more comments; patches welcome]

2010-10-13 Thread Melroy van den Berg
You are do right. Kind Regards, Melroy van den Berg webmaster1...@gmail.com - Reply message - Van: Stian Soiland-Reyes 160...@bugs.launchpad.net Datum: wo, okt. 13, 2010 18:39 Onderwerp: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult [please no more

Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult [please no more comments; patches welcome]

2010-10-06 Thread Omer Akram
there is a blueprint for Natty. https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-hci-n-resizing-windows -- Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult [please no more comments; patches welcome] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 You received this bug notification

Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult [please no more comments; patches welcome]

2010-09-26 Thread Dylan McCall
I have made an error in my comments to this bug report. I would like to ask the people experiencing this to try what I described (resizing from the corners) with Metacity (desktop effects disabled), not Compiz. Metacity seems to behave considerably better here than Compiz, where the extended

Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult

2010-09-15 Thread richard
This is a massively deep 'papercut' issue in the ubuntu project that needs fixing as nearly every user will come across this issue - even if strictly speaking it is not a bug. On 15 Sep 2010 18:37, GonzO go...@worlord.com wrote: Resizing a window in 10.04 with Ambiance is a nightmare. What *he*

Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult

2010-09-08 Thread Jan Bakuwel
Is there anyone with decision making power regarding this issue out there willing to respond? It would be good to know if our suggestion(s) are being seriously considered, have been rejected, deemed irrelevant, etc? -- Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult

Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult

2010-09-07 Thread Jan Bakuwel
+1 for Importance. I think the usability (or lack thereof) of a user interface should not depend on how it looks like. For instance we don't expect the theme to define the pointer speed, double-click time out etc either? I think it should be possible to use the user interface with straining ones

Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult

2010-09-05 Thread Jan Bakuwel
Hi Dylan, On 05/09/10 04:11, Dylan McCall wrote: It would be helpful to know what is wrong with the current approach, which has changed considerably from two years ago. The default themes now have a _considerably large_ hotspot for resizing on all four corners of every window. From my

Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult

2010-09-02 Thread Kai Tamkun
Jan, I don't think the border needs to be visually thicker, just the invisible one. On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Jan Bakuwel 160...@bugs.launchpad.netwrote: I was wondering why I felt strain in my muscles, then engaged the brain, then discovered this thread :-) Making the border thicker

Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult

2010-05-06 Thread David Siegel
We will be discussing this bug and a solution for it at Ubuntu Developer Summit next week. Please save your breath, we know it's high priority and we are going to fix it! -- Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 You received this bug

Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult

2010-03-30 Thread Paddy Launch
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:51:26AM -, Chris Kenyon wrote: - The issue appears to have been significantly aggravated in Lucid by changing the border width from 3 pixels to 1 pixel I have to say I've only noticed this problem first with Lucid - I was happy with the border width on Intrepid.

Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult

2010-02-18 Thread mcphargus
Holding the alt key while using the middle mouse button seems to be the best way to resize windows. I agree, tis a pain to try and resize from the edge of a window. On Fri, 2010-02-19 at 05:42 +, imclean wrote: Just want to register my agreement with those who think this a major usability

Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult

2009-12-10 Thread Allan Caeg
Big +1 Imagine how many times each day you try to grab window borders and fail. On Thursday, 10 December, 2009 05:58 PM, latimerio wrote: How can a bug like this with so many responses be undecided or low in priority? Usability is a key factor in modern systems and can not be rated high