Re: [Bug 280991] Re: CPU Load 20x higher than sum of 'by process' load
-- CPU Load 20x higher than sum of 'by process' load https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/280991 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 280575] Re: Nautilus fails on Ctrl-X then Ctrl-V 'MOVES' on NTFS
It seems that Nautilus was completely unstable by the time the above effects were noted. See https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/280713 for subsequent 'over-delete' misbehaviour. I believe that the inability to handle large NTFS directories (some memory over-flow problem) led to the unresponsiveness. Accordingly, I think it best to 'KILL' this bug report and leave the other one (280713) in effect. Part of the reason why I thought it was the copy and paste problem is because the Ubuntu clipboard function works so poorly (see Ubuntu Forum Idea on replacing it to get one that holds data properly)... But again that issue of losing contents before a Ctrl-V paste is best left documented in that Ubuntu Idea. -- Nautilus fails on Ctrl-X then Ctrl-V 'MOVES' on NTFS https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/280575 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 280713] [NEW] Dangerous Over-Delete - 'Single-File Shift-Delete' on NTFS deletes ALL
Public bug reported: Binary package hint: nautilus Like lots of people with dual-boot systems, or external USB drives that must be read elsewhere, I have some volumes which are NTFS. Using latest Ubuntu with Nautilus 2.22.5.1, I went into a user-area of my XP NTFS drive (a sub-directory within 'My Documents' and successfully copied the contents to another drive (no problems thus far). I then sat with Nautilus having my XP volume's 'My Documents' folder open and with the highlight bar (in rhs pane) highlighting just the sub-directory that I wanted to now delete and I pressed 'Del'. The sub-directory had about 500 files of average size 20kb (ie total of 10MB of data) in it. The Nautilus interface then asked if I really wanted to delete contents of 500 files and I confirmed 'OK' (still all as one would expect thus far). The Nautilus dialogue box then said 'Preparing to Delete and started showing the count of how many files it was preparing to delete, and the total amount of disk space involved. When it cliimbed to 4,500 files representing 4GB I clicked 'Cancel' to stop the whole volume (or maybe just whole of 'My Documents') being deleted. The 'locus'/'focus' of the Delete function (the span of action) got confused between the asking about 500 files, but then proceeding to find thousands of files that matched. So, for further experimentation as to whether the bug was related ONLY to deleting directories, I then clicked within that particular directory and did a 'Ctrl-A' to select all files and then pressed 'Del' or 'Shift- Del' (can't remember which) and it also wanted to delete way too many files. So to narrow it down, I selected just the first file in the directory and pressed 'Del' and it correctly deleted just one file (after saying it could not go to trash). So I tried on the second (now top of remaining files) file in list and tried 'Shift-Del' and it mis-behaved, checking if I wanted to delete all 500 and (I think) then selecting thousands more before I clicked 'Cancel'. I'm strongly advocating Ubuntu (eg see my posts on Linux v Vista on Zdnet: http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/software/soa/Vista-shunned-in- business-survey/0,130061733,339292397,00.htm and http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/hardware/soa/Rudd-wants-computer- cooperation/0,130061702,339292316,00.htm But if we are to get XP users to convert, they are most likely to try dual-boot, and if we delete whole volumes of their NTFS files when they thought they were deleting just a tiny portion, we'll get clobbered for such incompetence. I think this is a high-priority bug, and moreover, with any new version of Nautilus, someone should have one or two NTFS volumes (eg USB hard drives) attached for compatibility testing. The Kernel seems great, most of the major apps are great, the minor utilities are a bit light-on in functionality, but the BIG problem is that Nautilus is way too buggy and/or non-intuitive. Graeme (prof at-symbol post.harvard.edu) ** Affects: nautilus (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Tags: delete ntfs -- Dangerous Over-Delete - 'Single-File Shift-Delete' on NTFS deletes ALL https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/280713 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to nautilus in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 280991] [NEW] CPU Load 20x higher than sum of 'by process' load
Public bug reported: Binary package hint: gnome-system-monitor For many minutes my total CPU load has been showing at 80-100% on both CPUs on the 'Resources' display graph. Yet when I change top-tab to 'Processes' and sort by CPU, gnome-system-monitor is using c0-10%, gnome-video-thumbnailer is showing 0-20% (but averaging only 5%) and Firefox pops up ever now and then for 10% use (but low average). The load averages for 1, 5 and 15 minutes are shown as around value of three (shouldn't these have a percent sign shown after them, as I am only ASSUMING that these are CPU % utilisation 'loads'). Anyway, I think there is a HUGE discrepancy in the individual figures and the total, which should be EXPLAINED. I have a 1TB external USB drive (NTFS) attached with 200GB of 700MB movies on it, and another 500GB one (also NTFS) with 490GB of movies on it, another of 200GB with 170GB of photos on it (mounted but not accessed). I think the problem arose when I opened up a large directory of large movie files... though it could be to do with the large volumes being NTFS format? My memory usage is 65% of 1.1GB RAM and 11% of 1.4GB swap file. Nautilus was in 'file list' display mode (not thumbnails) though it still had those tiny icons next to each listing. When I changed the Nautilus focus away from the large drives, total CPU usage (per Resources graph) dropped from 80-100% to 20-60%, (ie big drop) yet the individual process CPU usage still showed c3% total, and the figures were being updated as I watched (ie not 'hung'). Either way, when the total is very different to the sum of the elements, it makes people distrust the whole system though it is not an important bug (compared to the others I've recently posted regarding Nautilus). ProblemType: Bug Architecture: i386 Date: Fri Oct 10 08:59:37 2008 DistroRelease: Ubuntu 8.04 ExecutablePath: /usr/bin/gnome-system-monitor Package: gnome-system-monitor 2.22.3-0ubuntu2 PackageArchitecture: i386 ProcEnviron: PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games LANG=en_AU.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash SourcePackage: gnome-system-monitor Uname: Linux 2.6.24-19-generic i686 ** Affects: gnome-system-monitor (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Tags: apport-bug -- CPU Load 20x higher than sum of 'by process' load https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/280991 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-system-monitor in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 280991] Re: CPU Load 20x higher than sum of 'by process' load
** Attachment added: Dependencies.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/18379267/Dependencies.txt ** Attachment added: ProcMaps.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/18379268/ProcMaps.txt ** Attachment added: ProcStatus.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/18379269/ProcStatus.txt -- CPU Load 20x higher than sum of 'by process' load https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/280991 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-system-monitor in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 280713] Re: Dangerous Over-Delete - 'Single-File Shift-Delete' on NTFS deletes ALL
-- Dangerous Over-Delete - 'Single-File Shift-Delete' on NTFS deletes ALL https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/280713 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 280713] Re: Dangerous Over-Delete - Large NTFS Directories can cause a 'Delete ALL'
-- Dangerous Over-Delete - 'Single-File Shift-Delete' on NTFS deletes ALL https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/280713 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 280575] [NEW] Nautilus fails on Ctrl-X then Ctrl-V 'MOVES' on NTFS
Public bug reported: Binary package hint: nautilus I love Ubuntu Linux and shout it praises everywhere... but there are still too many niggling bugs in Nautilus v2.22.5.1 (ie current distribution - system updated). At first Nautilus was not preserving time-stamps when copying to/from NTFS drives (now fixed). Now I note that on an NTFS partition of my main hard drive I cannot copy a top-level directory to make it a second level directory under an existing top-level directory. I was positioned on the directory (rhs pane with that directory alone highlighted) and did Control-X and then clicked on relevant lhs pane to desired directory to put it under and opened that directory and then did a Control-V but the directory was not moved. There is not too many levels of directories, not too many files, no large files, etc etc. It seems that Nautilus simple does not conform to 'normal' use of cut and paste when it comes to file systems (but maybe only if NTFS???) It ought be consistent with other Linux apps which do support Ctrl-X and Ctrl-V Graeme (prof at-symbol post.harvard.edu) ProblemType: Bug Architecture: i386 Date: Thu Oct 9 16:25:27 2008 DistroRelease: Ubuntu 8.04 ExecutablePath: /usr/bin/nautilus Package: nautilus 1:2.22.5.1-0ubuntu1 PackageArchitecture: i386 ProcEnviron: PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games LANG=en_AU.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash SourcePackage: nautilus Uname: Linux 2.6.24-19-generic i686 ** Affects: nautilus (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Tags: apport-bug -- Nautilus fails on Ctrl-X then Ctrl-V 'MOVES' on NTFS https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/280575 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to nautilus in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 280575] Re: Nautilus fails on Ctrl-X then Ctrl-V 'MOVES' on NTFS
** Attachment added: Dependencies.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/18360178/Dependencies.txt ** Attachment added: ProcMaps.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/18360179/ProcMaps.txt ** Attachment added: ProcStatus.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/18360180/ProcStatus.txt -- Nautilus fails on Ctrl-X then Ctrl-V 'MOVES' on NTFS https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/280575 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to nautilus in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 215499] Re: Nautilus not preserving timestamps
I think it is REALLY URGENT that a general fix get out there for all Ubuntu users. I (and everyone else) am wildly promoting 8.04 as the Vista alternative... and it strikes me as plain silly to not fix this problem pronto. It is so off-putting to use an OS that cannot keep file dates correct that I'd suggest fixing it in Nautilus if needs be, and if/when lower level modules are fixed to no longer cause the problem, THEN remove the workaround in Nautilus. The suggestion that it has anything to do with 'design decisions' is a FURPHY... There is NO JUSTIFICATION for 'touching' (ie redating) a set of files simply because they are copied unaltered to another location (esp on same computer). The bug is presumably that, as permissions are added to files not in *nix file system, someone decided to 're-date' file, as if someone had edited something but it will always be just a bug. The Russian commentator was right - when you have two copies of a file (unaltered) you have two instances of the one file and NOT two files of different dates! The fact that you can't 'reliably' copy photos from your camera, or files off a removable drive etc is a SEVERE error for any user. Yes, you can use Archive Manager to do a tar.gz zip file of them and then Extract them on the target drive... but it slows down a file copy 50x. The error is so severe as to prevent average users from using the OS... so it is critical that it be fixed FOR ALL USERS quickly. Graeme (30 years IT experience, former Harvard Consultant to The White House on IT policy, on team of five which developed first electronic spreadsheet - Visicalc - at Harvard Business School in 1978, etc) -- Nautilus not preserving timestamps https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/215499 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
