[Bug 150690] Re: Can't drag a window to another workspace

2015-07-14 Thread PaulReiber
Sebastien,

This bug is marked as affecting nearly 5 dozen people.  Some (including
me) consider it a regression, as the functionality used to work.

It has 12 other bugs (affecting who knows how many people) all marked as
duplicates.  It was reported in 2007, possibly one or more of the 12
duplicates is even older than that.  Who knows.

While I guess it's certainly your prerogative to decide to decline to
fix this, it really would be nice to see the functionality, or similar,
added back into the software.

Thanks in advance, and here's hoping this matter can be resolved within
the next few years - before its 10th birthday in 2017.

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Re: [Bug 150690] Re: Can't drag a window to another workspace

2010-05-23 Thread PaulReiber
Go, Ryan, Go!  Wahoo!

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On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 7:21 PM, Ryan Beard lampwic...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Paul -  I had a similar prognosis.  My initial plan is to develop a
 universal workspace switcher - one that will query (and monitor) the
 window manager to determine the compositing engine, and then play along.
 I'm reading up on some of the compiz APIs now.  I'd really like to
 incorporate some additional GUI mechanisms while I'm at it.  For
 example, I think it would greatly enhance the functionality to have OS X
 Dock-like 'zoom-on-mouse-over' to allow for easier and more accurate
 selection/placement of windows within the applet.  I probably won't get
 started coding until Monday, but hopefully I can have something to play
 with next week.  This will be a bit of a learning experience for me, but
 I figure this is a good place to get introduced to linux development.

 -ryan

 On Sat, 2010-05-22 at 19:41 +, PaulReiber wrote:
 Ryan - here's my understanding of this issue.  I believe, at the heart
 of the issue is that Compiz handles virtual desktops quite differently
 than Metacity.

 Because of this, it fakes any apps using the Metacity virtual
 desktop API into thinking there's only one virtual desktop.  I'm not
 sure of the details of how it does this; review the thread on this bug
 for some leads (hopefully).

 I haven't reviewed any of the patches that've been identified, because
 they slipped my attention; I wasn't aware any coding work had been
 done by anyone to attempt to address this.  I believe the key to doing
 this right is to have the applet be compiz-aware, and use the proper
 API if it's running; it'll be interesting to see what the patches do.

 Looking forward to collaborating with you on a solution.

 Kind regards,
 -Paul Reiber
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 On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 9:32 AM, Ryan Beard lampwic...@yahoo.com wrote:
  Thanks Paul.  I've downloaded the Grub development kit, and I'll be
  setting up conary today.  I'll let you how things go.
 
  -ryan
 
  On Fri, 2010-05-21 at 22:36 +, PaulReiber wrote:
  Ryan,
 
  If you're willing to dig/investigate, code, debug, and submit, I'm
  certainly willing to help.
 
  I've been programming/administering UNIX for ~30 years, Linux for ~15.
  My strengths are... well, pretty wide-reaching, but not so much in the
  GUI/Gnome/Window-manager/Virtual-Desktop coding details, or I would
  have fixed this myself a long time ago.
 
  Let me know if/when you get stuck and I'll do my best to get you
  un-stuck.  Contact me off-list at p...@reiber.org any time.
 
  Kind regards,
  -Paul Reiber
 
 
  On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 2:48 PM, Ryan Beard lampwic...@yahoo.com wrote:
   Paul -
  
   I'm actually referring to the patch attached to this bug (posted in
   comment #34: betterpatch.diff).  It appears to target pager.c, but I
   can't find that file in 10.04.
  
   I haven't researched the Fedora patch yet, but I will look into that.
  
   I'm new to Gnome, and linux in general (been an
   OpenSuse/Kubuntu/LinuxMint user for the past year), but I actually
   noticed this bug within the first 30 minutes after installation.  I'd
   like to help if at all possible (I was a heavy .net programmer, but I've
   been living in Qt Creator for the last 6 months), but I figured I should
   start with whatever work has already been accomplished - this patch, and
   the alleged Fedora patch - and build from there.
  
   Thanks for the help.
  
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Re: [Bug 150690] Re: Can't drag a window to another workspace

2010-05-23 Thread PaulReiber
On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Paul Beardsell p...@beardsell.com wrote:
 I'm not sure I would change hardly a word of my posting.  [...]

Me either; deficiencies are deficiencies, and X has some.

Paul, check out this tool:  http://foosel.org/linux/devilspie

I think you'll be a happy camper unless you're allergic to things that
look like lisp.

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Re: [Bug 150690] Re: Can't drag a window to another workspace

2010-05-23 Thread PaulReiber
Followup:  the link I posted before is to a great documentation site;
the Devils Pie website itself is:
http://www.burtonini.com/blog/computers/devilspie

Aside:  Please, let's try to keep messages to
150...@bugs.launchpad.net relevant to Bug 150690. (I know, I'm as
guilty as the next guy...)

Kind regards,
-Paul Reiber
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On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 6:59 PM, Paul Reiber rei...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Paul Beardsell p...@beardsell.com wrote:
 I'm not sure I would change hardly a word of my posting.  [...]

 Me either; deficiencies are deficiencies, and X has some.

 Paul, check out this tool:  http://foosel.org/linux/devilspie

 I think you'll be a happy camper unless you're allergic to things that
 look like lisp.

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Re: [Bug 150690] Re: Can't drag a window to another workspace

2010-05-22 Thread PaulReiber
Ryan - here's my understanding of this issue.  I believe, at the heart
of the issue is that Compiz handles virtual desktops quite differently
than Metacity.

Because of this, it fakes any apps using the Metacity virtual
desktop API into thinking there's only one virtual desktop.  I'm not
sure of the details of how it does this; review the thread on this bug
for some leads (hopefully).

I haven't reviewed any of the patches that've been identified, because
they slipped my attention; I wasn't aware any coding work had been
done by anyone to attempt to address this.  I believe the key to doing
this right is to have the applet be compiz-aware, and use the proper
API if it's running; it'll be interesting to see what the patches do.

Looking forward to collaborating with you on a solution.

Kind regards,
-Paul Reiber
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On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 9:32 AM, Ryan Beard lampwic...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Thanks Paul.  I've downloaded the Grub development kit, and I'll be
 setting up conary today.  I'll let you how things go.

 -ryan

 On Fri, 2010-05-21 at 22:36 +, PaulReiber wrote:
 Ryan,

 If you're willing to dig/investigate, code, debug, and submit, I'm
 certainly willing to help.

 I've been programming/administering UNIX for ~30 years, Linux for ~15.
 My strengths are... well, pretty wide-reaching, but not so much in the
 GUI/Gnome/Window-manager/Virtual-Desktop coding details, or I would
 have fixed this myself a long time ago.

 Let me know if/when you get stuck and I'll do my best to get you
 un-stuck.  Contact me off-list at p...@reiber.org any time.

 Kind regards,
 -Paul Reiber


 On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 2:48 PM, Ryan Beard lampwic...@yahoo.com wrote:
  Paul -
 
  I'm actually referring to the patch attached to this bug (posted in
  comment #34: betterpatch.diff).  It appears to target pager.c, but I
  can't find that file in 10.04.
 
  I haven't researched the Fedora patch yet, but I will look into that.
 
  I'm new to Gnome, and linux in general (been an
  OpenSuse/Kubuntu/LinuxMint user for the past year), but I actually
  noticed this bug within the first 30 minutes after installation.  I'd
  like to help if at all possible (I was a heavy .net programmer, but I've
  been living in Qt Creator for the last 6 months), but I figured I should
  start with whatever work has already been accomplished - this patch, and
  the alleged Fedora patch - and build from there.
 
  Thanks for the help.
 
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Re: [Bug 150690] Re: Can't drag a window to another workspace

2010-05-21 Thread PaulReiber
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Ryan Beard lampwic...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Is this patch still applicable to Lucid?  I'm unable to locate pager.c

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Some time ago Marcus wrote:

Oded, actually patches to make it work is availble and i think Fedora
includes those in their package. The problem is that Vincent would like
to rewrite the whole workspace/viewport code to make it generic. I guess
he doesn't have time to fix this atm as all work goes towards gnome-
shell and gnome 3.0.

Is that the patch you are referring to?

I'm here to help get this resolved; please let me know how I can assist.

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Re: [Bug 150690] Re: Can't drag a window to another workspace

2010-05-21 Thread PaulReiber
Ryan,

If you're willing to dig/investigate, code, debug, and submit, I'm
certainly willing to help.

I've been programming/administering UNIX for ~30 years, Linux for ~15.
My strengths are... well, pretty wide-reaching, but not so much in the
GUI/Gnome/Window-manager/Virtual-Desktop coding details, or I would
have fixed this myself a long time ago.

Let me know if/when you get stuck and I'll do my best to get you
un-stuck.  Contact me off-list at p...@reiber.org any time.

Kind regards,
-Paul Reiber


On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 2:48 PM, Ryan Beard lampwic...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Paul -

 I'm actually referring to the patch attached to this bug (posted in
 comment #34: betterpatch.diff).  It appears to target pager.c, but I
 can't find that file in 10.04.

 I haven't researched the Fedora patch yet, but I will look into that.

 I'm new to Gnome, and linux in general (been an
 OpenSuse/Kubuntu/LinuxMint user for the past year), but I actually
 noticed this bug within the first 30 minutes after installation.  I'd
 like to help if at all possible (I was a heavy .net programmer, but I've
 been living in Qt Creator for the last 6 months), but I figured I should
 start with whatever work has already been accomplished - this patch, and
 the alleged Fedora patch - and build from there.

 Thanks for the help.

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Re: [Bug 150690] Re: Can't drag a window to another workspace

2010-04-09 Thread PaulReiber
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 2:39 AM, allankelly allanke...@gmail.com wrote:
 This is still present in 9.10. [...affecting...] first impressions.

Yes - depressing isn't it?  However there doesn't appear to be a
clear-cut fix because of how the implementation of workspaces differs
from metacity to compiz. (oversimplifying a little but that appears to
be the gist of it; please don't take my word on this, however; take a
look at the code and make your own assessment - please!)

 This discussion has been underway for 2.5 YEARS and from a user
 perspective NOTHING has happened.

Well, I've done my best to ensure that this bug stayed open; there is
that.  I've have coded a fix for it myself if I could see any light at
the end of any reasonable tunnel.

 If the tooltip is removed or amended to say how to move windows between
 desktops then the new-user damage is removed.

I personally think that approach is a bandaid as it doesn't solve the
real problem.

My take: if you can drag windows using the applet under metacity, you
should be able to do so under compiz.  That end-user functionality is
darn handy, and I miss it.  It deserves to work.  (there, I said it.)

Compiz is simply failing to deliver on the existing workspace API that
metacity had implemented.  Unlike some other interfaces that were
considered standard enough that they had to be implemented,
metacity's workspace API wasn't considered a spec that needed to be
adhered to.  I believe a backwardly-compatibile interface could indeed
be implemented but no-one on the compiz team appears to be interested,
since not very much metacity code actually needs an interface to
workspaces.

One possible light at the end of a tunnel just a bit longer than I
care to traverse myself is the following.  One workable solution would
be to code a brand new compiz workspace applet that ignores the
current codebase and simply uses the same gesture handling and
look-n-feel as the current applet, but interfaces with workspaces in a
fully compiz-compatible way like lots of other compiz-only components
do.  (there are a myriad of effects available for workspace-workspace
transition rendering, for example)

If I was a college professor I'd have given this to a grad student as
a project some time ago.  Maybe this message will do the trick, and
someone will pick up this ball and run with it?

 This is a serious reputational damage issue.

With that I agree fullheartedly.  It's a UI blemish that's really
apparent to newbies and old-timers alike.

 Cheers, allan.

Thanks for your support and comments!  Hopefully, ongoing dialog will
help bring a solution to bear.

Kind regards,
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Re: [Bug 150690] Re: Can't drag a window to another workspace

2010-04-09 Thread PaulReiber
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 3:01 AM, wdesmet krom...@gmail.com wrote:
 This only affects the workplace switcher applet, which I thought windows
 didn't have?

Indeed that appears to have been Allen's point - that workspace
switching is something new that you don't see in Windows.  Thus, new
users try it out and like it and use it and play with all the
features.  Then they later switch on compiz and it starts working
differently and with fewer features.  Yuck.

 You can still move windows between desktops using the
 option menu or the keyboard shortcut (ctr-alt-shift left/right).

(aside: the right-button menu on a windowframe shows _what_ as the
keyboard accelerators for moving the window to workspace
left/right/up/down?   ...certainly not ctrl-alt-shift-arrowkey as you
say above, though those DO seem to work just fine, although NOT solve
the problem; see below

 Or just dragging them to the edge of the screen.

Both the arrow-keys solution and the window-dragging solution need the
mouse to be in the window to be moved.  The
window-moving-in-the-applet functionality allows _any_ window to be
moved to _any_ workspace, regardless of what windows are showing and
what the current workspace is.  So please don't confuse window control
and virtual-workspace-window-management; they're very very different.

 Not that I don't think it's important to fix something like this (a
 thousand paper cuts and all that), but there's no need for the
 hyperbole.

The word hyperbole infers that Allen exaggerated something; I don't
find that to be the case.  Nothing he said was an exaggeration, even
his wrap-up that this is a reputational damage issue.  It is.

Kind regards,
-Paul Reiber, the guy who opened this bug in the first place and won't
let it die till its fixed
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Re: [Bug 150690] Re: Can't drag a window to another workspace

2010-04-09 Thread PaulReiber
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 3:29 AM, Paul Beardsell p...@beardsell.com wrote:
 Something is going wrong when my favourite o/s (of which I am a deeply
 appreciative long time desktop user and boring evangelist) can have all its
 window buttons moved top left and the background changed to lurid purple but
 the desktop switcher does not work (for ordinary mortals) as it should.
  Still broken in 10.04.  Hyperbole?  I don't think so.

 Paul Beardsell
 p...@beardsell.com

In one of my other replies on this thread I've identified a light at
the end of the tunnel.

Here's hoping someone codes up something like that for Google's
summer-of-code, or a grad student does it to get an A, or some
up-and-coming superstar does it in a weekend just to hone his skills a
bit more. :-)

Then all we'll need to do is to get the two look-alike-work-alike
applets to know enough about each other to defer to the other one
if/when compiz or metacity are running.  Or something similarly
effective.

-pbr

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Re: [Bug 516929] Re: Xorg misbehaves when user home directory is missing

2010-02-05 Thread PaulReiber
Wow... well I was trying to stay away from designing a solution, and 
stick with describing the problem.

But, since you asked, I'll take a stab at it.  How about this:

A small component named maybe home_dir_check could be added, which would 
see if the home directory existed or not.  If it exists, it can simply 
exit.  If it doesn't exist, it would pop up a dialog box saying so.

That dialog box could have two buttons,  proceed anyway  and 
logout.  If the user chooses proceed anyway it might say Are you 
sure?  You will probably have to kill Xorg from a virtual terminal if 
you proceed.  That second  dialog box would have choices really 
proceed anyway and logout, which would do exactly what they say they 
would do.

Sure there are a lot more fancy things that could be done, but the most 
useful things (like creating a directory for the user using the same 
functionality that happens during user creation) would require getting 
root privs, which might require some capabilities from one of those 
components that aren't running... yuck... better to stick with something 
simple.

Hope this helps; I'll be happy to work through the details of other 
options and ideas if anyone has them.

Kind regards,
-Paul
 

Chris Coulson wrote:
 What do you expect gnome-session to do about this in this case then?
 There are multiple components in your desktop session which won't work
 properly if there is no home directory (eg, dbus, gconf etc will all
 fail). It's not entirely clear what you expect to happen

 ** Changed in: gnome-session (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided = Low

 ** Changed in: gnome-session (Ubuntu)
Status: Confirmed = Incomplete

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Re: [Bug 516929] Re: Xorg misbehaves when user home directory is missing

2010-02-05 Thread PaulReiber
Andreas Noteng wrote:
 As a sidenote: ctrl+alt+backspace isn't supposed to work anymore. al
 least not by default, se: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/DontZap

   
So I just read this, after penning a response for how we might work 
around the bug.  If the note at the very end of the page is correct, 
Alt-SysRq-K is the new Ctrl-Alt-Backspace... which I did not know, and 
which most end-users will not know.

So that leads me to a somewhat simpler solution that could be 
implemented more easily:

We might have a program that checks for the existence of the users home 
directory.  If the directory does not exist, the program would simply 
put up a dialog box with the message:

No user home directory; X will not function correctly.  You can press 
Alt-SysRq-K to kill your session.

It could have an ok button but even that's not needed, since there's 
really nothing else to be done other than to give the user a way to get 
out of the mess they've gotten themselves into.

Simpler is better!
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Re: [Bug 516929] Re: Xorg misbehaves when user home directory is missing

2010-02-05 Thread PaulReiber
How about this instead:

Well, I'm sure there are a lot of novice programmers out there who
would love to learn the process of how to integrate a new component
into gnome-session, and this is an awesome opportunity for someone
new to get their hands dirty.

The desktop team's pretty busy, but we'll ask them if they know any
programmers who might want to get a chance to contribute something
useful to the project, without being part of the critical path.

Thanks for taking the time to help make gnome-session a truly
bulletproof infrastructure!


...here's hoping...
-pbr


Chris Coulson wrote:
 Well, someone is welcome to work on the implementation they think is
 best, but there are probably more useful ways of investing time. I don't
 think this isn't something the desktop team will be spending any time
 on.

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Importance: Low = Wishlist

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Status: Incomplete = New

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Re: [Bug 516929] Re: Xorg misbehaves when user home directory is missing

2010-02-05 Thread PaulReiber
Good question.  In fact, that's part of why I think a simpler, tighter
Here's the keystrokes to abort your session style message might be
preferable to something which recommended the user log out - users
home directories might be on NFS, or might be on a USB stick, or who
knows where... so how to word things generically, and how to code
things which accommodate all of the scenarios, makes this a much more
subtle and interesting problem than it appears on the surface.

Kind regards,
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On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 8:34 AM, Geir Ove Myhr gom...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've run Hardy on a few computers where the home directories were NFS-
 mounted. Because of some NFS-problems they would sometimes lose the
 connection, and thus the users would have no home directory. In that
 case, there would always be a notification box right after login which
 said something like I cannot find the home directory /home/username.
 This is llikely to break things, but you may try to log in if you wish.
 Click OK to log in or Cancel to cancel. (in a much better wording).

 I'm not sure if it was gdm or some other component that did this. The
 computers had gdm, but otherwise both ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop
 was installed and I would usually log in to KDE, but I guess without the
 home directory there was no way for gdm to know that. So is it the new,
 fast, and feature stripped gdm that shipped with Karmic that turned this
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Re: [Bug 511373] Re: gnome-terminal: undefined symbol: vte_terminal_set_alternate_screen_scroll

2010-01-24 Thread PaulReiber
Wow... good catch, Chris!  I looked right at this and didn't realize
it was the problem.

Now I've got to wonder what put it there.  I've done a LOT of custom
installs and such, any number of which might be the culprit.  I'll
follow up with details if I figure out how it happened.

Thanks for your help!  You guys rock.

Kind regards,
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On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 11:18 AM, Chris Coulson
chrisccoul...@googlemail.com wrote:
 libvte.so.9 = /usr/local/lib/libvte.so.9 (0x7f5896ae4000)

 You've got a locally installed copy of vte in /usr/local which isn't
 provided by Ubuntu, and doesn't export the missing symbol there. Closing
 this, as it's not a bug but rather a local configuration issue

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[Bug 511373] [NEW] gnome-terminal: undefined symbol: vte_terminal_set_alternate_screen_scroll

2010-01-22 Thread PaulReiber
Public bug reported:

gnome-terminal wont start, giving a VTE related error:
gnome-terminal: symbol lookup error: gnome-terminal: undefined symbol: 
vte_terminal_set_alternate_screen_scroll

I started using the yaquake and tilda terminal emulators a few months
ago, so I didn't notice this problem right away, thus I'm unsure what
I've done that caused it, and when.  Today, when I try to run gnome-
terminal I get the above error. I get the same error when logged in as
other users, so it's not a user-specific issue.

$ lsb_release -rd
Description:Ubuntu 9.10
Release:9.10

$ apt-cache policy gnome-terminal
gnome-terminal:
  Installed: 2.28.1-0ubuntu1
  Candidate: 2.28.1-0ubuntu1
  Version table:
 *** 2.28.1-0ubuntu1 0
500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com karmic/main Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

$ apt-cache policy libvte9
libvte9:
  Installed: 1:0.22.2-0ubuntu2
  Candidate: 1:0.22.2-0ubuntu2
  Version table:
 *** 1:0.22.2-0ubuntu2 0
500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com karmic/main Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

I tried running 'sudo aptitude reinstall libvte9' and that didn't help.

I'm wondering whether the order of sources in /etc/apt/sources.list
might be the problem?  to that end I'm including the output of the
following in hopes it might help:

$ grep -v '^#' /etc/apt/sources.list

deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ karmic main restricted
deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ karmic restricted main multiverse 
universe #Added by software-properties

deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ karmic-updates main restricted
deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ karmic-updates restricted main 
multiverse universe #Added by software-properties

deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ karmic universe
deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ karmic-updates universe

deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ karmic multiverse
deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ karmic-updates multiverse

deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty-backports main restricted 
universe multiverse
deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty-backports main restricted 
universe multiverse

deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu karmic partner
deb-src http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu jaunty partner

deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu karmic-security main restricted
deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu karmic-security restricted main 
multiverse universe #Added by software-properties
deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu karmic-security universe
deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu karmic-security multiverse
deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/do-core/ppa/ubuntu karmic main
deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/do-core/ppa/ubuntu karmic main

Please let me know what else you'll need on this and I'll provide it
right away.  Thanks!

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Re: [Bug 511373] Re: gnome-terminal: undefined symbol: vte_terminal_set_alternate_screen_scroll

2010-01-22 Thread PaulReiber
I provided this in the original bug report; here it is again:

$ apt-cache policy libvte9
libvte9:
  Installed: 1:0.22.2-0ubuntu2
  Candidate: 1:0.22.2-0ubuntu2
  Version table:
 *** 1:0.22.2-0ubuntu2 0
500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com karmic/main Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

Kind regards,
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On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 5:20 PM, Chris Coulson
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 Thank you for your bug report. What is the output of apt-cache policy
 libvte9?

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Re: [Bug 511373] Re: gnome-terminal: undefined symbol: vte_terminal_set_alternate_screen_scroll

2010-01-22 Thread PaulReiber
Here you go!  Thanks so much.
-Paul

$ nm -D /usr/lib/libvte.so.9 | grep vte_terminal_set_alternate_screen_scroll
0001d100 T vte_terminal_set_alternate_screen_scroll

$ ldd /usr/bin/gnome-terminal
linux-vdso.so.1 =  (0x7fff60d8)
libvte.so.9 = /usr/local/lib/libvte.so.9 (0x7f5896ae4000)
libgthread-2.0.so.0 = /usr/lib/libgthread-2.0.so.0
(0x7f58968df000)
libgconf-2.so.4 = /usr/lib/libgconf-2.so.4
(0x7f58966a2000)
liblaunchpad-integration.so.1 =
/usr/lib/liblaunchpad-integration.so.1 (0x7f589649d000)
libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 = /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
(0x7f5895e92000)
libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 = /usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0
(0x7f5895be6000)
libatk-1.0.so.0 = /usr/lib/libatk-1.0.so.0
(0x7f58959c6000)
libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0 = /usr/lib/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0
(0x7f58957aa000)
libm.so.6 = /lib/libm.so.6 (0x7f5895526000)
libgio-2.0.so.0 = /usr/lib/libgio-2.0.so.0
(0x7f589527c000)
libpango-1.0.so.0 = /usr/lib/libpango-1.0.so.0
(0x7f5895033000)
libdbus-glib-1.so.2 = /usr/lib/libdbus-glib-1.so.2
(0x7f5894e11000)
libpthread.so.0 = /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x7f5894bf5000)
libgobject-2.0.so.0 = /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0
(0x7f58949ae000)
libglib-2.0.so.0 = /lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 (0x7f58946e7000)
libstartup-notification-1.so.0 =
/usr/lib/libstartup-notification-1.so.0 (0x7f58944dd000)
libSM.so.6 = /usr/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x7f58942d4000)
libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x7f5893f65000)
libX11.so.6 = /usr/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x7f5893c2f000)
libICE.so.6 = /usr/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x7f5893a14000)
libpangoft2-1.0.so.0 = /usr/lib/libpangoft2-1.0.so.0
(0x7f58937eb000)
libpangocairo-1.0.so.0 = /usr/lib/libpangocairo-1.0.so.0
(0x7f58935df000)
libcairo.so.2 = /usr/lib/libcairo.so.2 (0x7f589335c000)
libfreetype.so.6 = /usr/lib/libfreetype.so.6 (0x7f58930d7000)
libz.so.1 = /lib/libz.so.1 (0x7f5892ec)
libfontconfig.so.1 = /usr/lib/libfontconfig.so.1 (0x7f5892c8e000)
libgmodule-2.0.so.0 = /usr/lib/libgmodule-2.0.so.0 (0x7f5892a8a000)
libncurses.so.5 = /lib/libncurses.so.5 (0x7f5892847000)
librt.so.1 = /lib/librt.so.1 (0x7f589263f000)
libpcre.so.3 = /lib/libpcre.so.3 (0x7f5892411000)
libORBit-2.so.0 = /usr/lib/libORBit-2.so.0 (0x7f58921a3000)
libdbus-1.so.3 = /lib/libdbus-1.so.3 (0x7f5891f64000)
libXcomposite.so.1 = /usr/lib/libXcomposite.so.1 (0x7f5891d61000)
libXdamage.so.1 = /usr/lib/libXdamage.so.1 (0x7f5891b5f000)
libXfixes.so.3 = /usr/lib/libXfixes.so.3 (0x7f5891959000)
libXext.so.6 = /usr/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x7f5891747000)
libXrender.so.1 = /usr/lib/libXrender.so.1 (0x7f589153d000)
libXinerama.so.1 = /usr/lib/libXinerama.so.1 (0x7f589133b000)
libXi.so.6 = /usr/lib/libXi.so.6 (0x7f589113)
libXrandr.so.2 = /usr/lib/libXrandr.so.2 (0x7f5890f27000)
libXcursor.so.1 = /usr/lib/libXcursor.so.1 (0x7f5890d1d000)
libdl.so.2 = /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x7f5890b19000)
libresolv.so.2 = /lib/libresolv.so.2 (0x7f589090)
libselinux.so.1 = /lib/libselinux.so.1 (0x7f58906e2000)
/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x7f5896d8)
libxcb-aux.so.0 = /usr/lib/libxcb-aux.so.0 (0x7f58904de000)
libxcb-event.so.1 = /usr/lib/libxcb-event.so.1 (0x7f58902d9000)
libxcb-atom.so.1 = /usr/lib/libxcb-atom.so.1 (0x7f58900d4000)
libxcb.so.1 = /usr/lib/libxcb.so.1 (0x7f588feb8000)
libuuid.so.1 = /lib/libuuid.so.1 (0x7f588fcb3000)
libpixman-1.so.0 = /usr/lib/libpixman-1.so.0 (0x7f588fa6e000)
libdirectfb-1.2.so.0 = /usr/lib/libdirectfb-1.2.so.0
(0x7f588f7e3000)
libfusion-1.2.so.0 = /usr/lib/libfusion-1.2.so.0 (0x7f588f5d9000)
libdirect-1.2.so.0 = /usr/lib/libdirect-1.2.so.0 (0x7f588f3be000)
libpng12.so.0 = /usr/lib/libpng12.so.0 (0x7f588f197000)
libxcb-render-util.so.0 = /usr/lib/libxcb-render-util.so.0
(0x7f588ef93000)
libxcb-render.so.0 = /usr/lib/libxcb-render.so.0 (0x7f588ed8a000)
libexpat.so.1 = /lib/libexpat.so.1 (0x7f588eb61000)
libXau.so.6 = /usr/lib/libXau.so.6 (0x7f588e95e000)
libXdmcp.so.6 = /usr/lib/libXdmcp.so.6 (0x7f588e759000)


Kind regards,
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chrisccoul...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Also, what is the output of nm -D /usr/lib/libvte.so.9 | grep
 vte_terminal_set_alternate_screen_scroll and ldd /usr/bin/gnome-
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Re: [Bug 150690] Re: Can't drag a window to another workspace

2009-11-15 Thread PaulReiber
This tool-tip issue has nothing to do with the REAL bug.

Please, let's stay on focus.  If you think the tool-tip issue is
serious enough, open a NEW bug, and discuss it there.

This bug's about broken functionality, not about tool-tips.

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On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 8:36 PM, Derek White d-ma...@yahoo.com wrote:
 No Lionel. Changing the tool-tip when compiz is active (since, compiz
 breaks the DnD functionality) would then make everything work as
 expected  keep the tool-tips useful for both cases. Yes, changing the
 tool-tip won't fix the DnD problems when compiz is loaded, but it will
 correct the problem of the tool-tip telling the user they can do
 something when they clearly cannot do it.

 Have two tool-tips: 1 for metacity, 1 for compiz. Tool-tip issue is
 fixed - reporting correct functionality in both cases. DnD works with
 plain vanilla metacity; therefore the tool-tip should stay stating
 Click to start dragging However, if compiz is being used  DnD
 doesn't work, then changing the tool-tip - in that circumstance - is the
 right solution, as the functionality is not there.

 Why would you keep a known wrong, easily fixed tool-tip for
 functionality that isn't there? Some people are used to it - it should
 not have even gotten to that point. Stealing from your analogy: Just
 because you're used to the kitchen being on fire doesn't mean it's OK
 for it to be on fire.

 And what is the wrong signal? We acknowledge this functionality is
 broken for the time being; so, we will update the tool-tip to help the
 user know what will happen with metacity  with compiz. Once the
 functionality is restored the tool-tip will again be changed to help the
 user know what happens. How is that the wrong signal? Sounds like what
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[Bug 144538] Re: menu editor dont start.

2009-11-03 Thread PaulReiber
I didn't do anything manually to any files as root; this occurred all on
its own either from the 0.04 install or from the 9.04-9.10 upgrade.

The previous comments are very old so they make me wonder if its the
same bug... but it's definitely the same symptom; just trying to edit my
menus and the main menu editor crashes.

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Re: [Bug 150690] Re: Compiz Gutsy : Can't drag a window to another workspace

2009-05-14 Thread PaulReiber
NOTE I've not looked at the code in question - though I plan to - this
is just some potential insight into the situation.

Seems to me, if compiz was taking over for the other multi-workspace
code, it might do just what was observed - force the number of
workspaces (from all the other/old codes perspective) to be 1, so it
could render its own new-style workspaces into that one old-style
workspace.

If that's whats going on this starts to make more sense.

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Re: [Bug 150690] Re: Compiz Gutsy : Can't drag a window to another workspace

2009-05-06 Thread PaulReiber
I'm unaware of expo's drag/drop interface, so I can't comment, other
than to say I found it REALLY REALLY useful to be able to move windows
from workspace to workspace (on or off of the current workspace, for
example) before this bug was introduced.

Indeed, it _was_ a great way to manage my windows.  I'm happy to see
some other people taking interest in this bug; it's a significant
usability problem.

-pbr
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 IMO the switcher should be like a mini 'expo'   when in compiz mode,  and
 classic style when in metacity.

 2009/5/6 wdesmet krom...@gmail.com

 @paul beardsell: that sets the window manager back to metacity instead
 of compiz which is why it works again.

 The 'about' option on the workspace switcher states:
 The Workspace Switcher shows you a small version of your workspaces that
 lets you manage your windows.

 It allows you to do no such thing now. IMHO this is a bug and not a
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Re: [Bug 150690] Re: Compiz Gutsy : Can't drag a window to another workspace

2009-04-26 Thread PaulReiber
Interesting... maybe this can help the developers w/ their debugging.
-pbr
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On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Paul Beardsell p...@beardsell.com wrote:
 I would like this fixed.  But (works for me) there is an acceptable
 workaround:  Disable visual effects.  System - Preferences -
 Appearance - Visual effects - None.  Then apps can be dragged
 workspace to workspace in the workspace switcher app.

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Re: [Bug 150690] Re: Compiz Gutsy : Can't drag a window to another workspace

2009-04-22 Thread PaulReiber
I have no idea when this will-be/should-be/was fixed; I'm simply the
guy who reported the problem.  As a post mortem (if they/you/we are
doing those) it'd be great to analyze this bug and see why it has
taken so long to get it fixed (esp. since it _used_ to work!)

I think it works under at least _some_ conditions now... happy to do
some testing to verify; I'll follow up with another email after I do
that.

Regards,
-pbr

On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Chris Roddy c...@mdc2.org wrote:
 is this supposed to be fixed in 9.04? (the behavior is unchanged)

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Re: [Bug 281126] Re: Can't move window from one desk to another

2008-10-30 Thread PaulReiber
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 150690 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/150690

Hiya.  I reported this problem originally against the gnome-panel
workspace switcher applet; someone else thought it was compiz related;
I was never quite sure.

The applet previously allowed for moving a window from workspace to
workspace via click and drag of the miniature representations of the
window; that stopped working with the particular 'buntu upgrade, so I
reported it.

What's important is that the issue be in the queue of whichever team
is working on those applets; is that the case here?

-pbr


On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 9:48 AM, Sebastien Bacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 *** This bug is a duplicate of bug 150690 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/150690

 that's bug #150690

 ** This bug has been marked a duplicate of bug 150690
   Compiz Gutsy : Can't drag a windows to another workspace

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[Bug 111040] Re: compiz can't drag window thumbnails to other workspaces

2008-01-22 Thread PaulReiber
ws switcher v 2.20.1 under gutsy gibbon exhibits same lack of proper
handling of (1)mouse-wheel and (2) mouse-up events

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