Re: [Bug 518056] Re: cedilla appears as accented c (ć instead of ç) when typing 'c

2015-04-06 Thread Raphael das Neves Calvo
@Felipe
Venting out frustrations will not help in getting the bug fixed.
Let us try to be more factual.
You came up with a test case.
Please give your feedback in an orderly way so Canonical and the community
can help.
What version of Ubuntu were you testing.
Which sw did you test and what was the pass/fail status is each one.

Regards

Calvo

On Mon, Apr 6, 2015, 19:45 Felipe Micaroni Lalli micar...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Unfortunately I tested all solutions in this long thread and it does not
 work in all cases. For example, for me, in Emacs I still get ć instead ç
 and in IntelliJ and Webstorm the same. I have to let a gedit opened,
 type there and then copy/paste, what is a mess! This fix have to
 rollback exactly the same behavior we had in old versions of Ubuntu, and
 the same behavior we have in all other systems: OpenBSD, Windows, Mac
 OSX etc. It is a shame Ubuntu still have this bug so long!

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   cedilla appears as accented c (ć instead of ç) when typing 'c

 Status in central project for keyboard configuration:
   Confirmed
 Status in gtk+2.0 package in Ubuntu:
   Confirmed
 Status in language-selector package in Ubuntu:
   Fix Released
 Status in libx11 package in Ubuntu:
   New
 Status in xkeyboard-config package in Ubuntu:
   Confirmed

 Bug description:

   When typing in a US-international keyboard with dead-keys (or
 UK-international),
   typing 'c results in an accented c instead of a cedilla.

   There is a workaround, which is editing the

   /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/immodule-files.d/libgtk2.0-0.immodules

   file and changing the line

   cedilla Cedilla gtk20 /usr/share/locale
   az:ca:co:fr:gv:oc:pt:sq:tr:wa

   to

   cedilla Cedilla gtk20 /usr/share/locale
   az:ca:co:fr:gv:oc:pt:sq:tr:wa:en

   (add the 'en' at the end).

   However, every time some update on this file is applied, one looses the
 change,
   and we get back to the accented c. That means having to modify the file
 again,
   logout and login.

   For me this is no problem. But for my brother, mom, dad, etc, it is
 always something
   that at least makes me less proud of having convinced them to use
 Ubuntu, because
   they don't know what to do each time this happens.

   I think we really need a configurable keyboard layout, or at least (and
 that would
   be very easy), the inclusion of alternate layouts on install that for
 the dead-key
   options (as US-deadkey and UK-deakey), alternate layouts as
 US-deadkey-cedilla.

   This change is relevant for at least Portuguese and French.

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Re: [Bug 518056] Re: cedilla appears as accented c (ć instead of ç) when typing 'c

2015-04-03 Thread Raphael das Neves Calvo
Gunnar,

My guess here is based on history but maybe I am wrong
The reason we Brazilians use the US international keyboard so much is
because in the '70s and '80s we didn't have a national industry to cope
with our internal demands for products related to computers. Almost every
single computer we had was imported (leggaly or illegally) from USA or it
was a clone made by our industry based on an US computer model.

Portugal may have had a similar issue (I am especulating here) because they
were also under a dictatorship for some time, but in their case if a
similar situation occurred than they would probably had access to some
design made in Europe instead of something from US. Again, I am
especulating... It is just a theory but Leandro pointed out that he made a
brief research about this issue being relevant to Portuguese people and he
found some links to substantiate the claim that Portugueses would be
benefited from this fix.

Kind Regards

Calvo

On Thu, Apr 2, 2015, 19:50 Gunnar Hjalmarsson 518...@bugs.launchpad.net
wrote:

 Thanks for your comments re pt_PT, Leandro.

 As long as we consider setting LC_CTYPE, in any of the ways mentioned in
 comment #96, a fix, it should be noted that '+c results in ç
 irrespective of which keyboard layout you use. In other words, the
 changed behavior is not conditioned by the use of an English US
 international keyboard layout, as Raphael suggested in comment #98. I
 assume that this was considered a reasonable behavior for Brazilian
 users, considering which physical keyboards are typically used in
 Brazil.

 We could propose a change to the libx11 package which adds a
 /usr/share/X11/locale/pt_PT.UTF-8/Compose file. But before proposing
 such a change I would like to ask if it would make as much sense for
 users living in Portugal as the corresponding Brazilian file makes for
 users living in Brazil.

 * Do users who live in Portugal use an English US international
   keyboard layout as often as Brazilian users do, or do they typically
   use some Portuguese keyboard layout?

 * Since the behavior may make typing certain other European languages
   more difficult, is that drawback possibly of greater importance for
   users living in Portugal (Europe)?

 The only Portuguese locales which are supported in Ubuntu are pt_PT and
 pt_BR.

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   cedilla appears as accented c (ć instead of ç) when typing 'c

 Status in central project for keyboard configuration:
   Confirmed
 Status in gtk+2.0 package in Ubuntu:
   Confirmed
 Status in language-selector package in Ubuntu:
   Fix Released
 Status in libx11 package in Ubuntu:
   New
 Status in xkeyboard-config package in Ubuntu:
   Confirmed

 Bug description:

   When typing in a US-international keyboard with dead-keys (or
 UK-international),
   typing 'c results in an accented c instead of a cedilla.

   There is a workaround, which is editing the

   /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/immodule-files.d/libgtk2.0-0.immodules

   file and changing the line

   cedilla Cedilla gtk20 /usr/share/locale
   az:ca:co:fr:gv:oc:pt:sq:tr:wa

   to

   cedilla Cedilla gtk20 /usr/share/locale
   az:ca:co:fr:gv:oc:pt:sq:tr:wa:en

   (add the 'en' at the end).

   However, every time some update on this file is applied, one looses the
 change,
   and we get back to the accented c. That means having to modify the file
 again,
   logout and login.

   For me this is no problem. But for my brother, mom, dad, etc, it is
 always something
   that at least makes me less proud of having convinced them to use
 Ubuntu, because
   they don't know what to do each time this happens.

   I think we really need a configurable keyboard layout, or at least (and
 that would
   be very easy), the inclusion of alternate layouts on install that for
 the dead-key
   options (as US-deadkey and UK-deakey), alternate layouts as
 US-deadkey-cedilla.

   This change is relevant for at least Portuguese and French.

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Re: [Bug 518056] Re: cedilla appears as accented c (ć instead of ç) when typing 'c

2015-04-03 Thread Raphael das Neves Calvo
One more thing...

In the glory days of DR-DOS/MS-DOS, if I am not mistaken,  there was no
keyboard setup specially made for Brazil regarding US International
keyboard. It was a setup for Latin languages, I.e., every country that has
a latin language was affected (French, portuguese, Italian...)

Regards

Calvo

On Fri, Apr 3, 2015, 09:39 Raphael Calvo raphael.ca...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Gunnar,

 My guess here is based on history but maybe I am wrong
 The reason we Brazilians use the US international keyboard so much is
 because in the '70s and '80s we didn't have a national industry to cope
 with our internal demands for products related to computers. Almost every
 single computer we had was imported (leggaly or illegally) from USA or it
 was a clone made by our industry based on an US computer model.

 Portugal may have had a similar issue (I am especulating here) because
 they were also under a dictatorship for some time, but in their case if a
 similar situation occurred than they would probably had access to some
 design made in Europe instead of something from US. Again, I am
 especulating... It is just a theory but Leandro pointed out that he made a
 brief research about this issue being relevant to Portuguese people and he
 found some links to substantiate the claim that Portugueses would be
 benefited from this fix.

 Kind Regards

 Calvo

 On Thu, Apr 2, 2015, 19:50 Gunnar Hjalmarsson 518...@bugs.launchpad.net
 wrote:

 Thanks for your comments re pt_PT, Leandro.

 As long as we consider setting LC_CTYPE, in any of the ways mentioned in
 comment #96, a fix, it should be noted that '+c results in ç
 irrespective of which keyboard layout you use. In other words, the
 changed behavior is not conditioned by the use of an English US
 international keyboard layout, as Raphael suggested in comment #98. I
 assume that this was considered a reasonable behavior for Brazilian
 users, considering which physical keyboards are typically used in
 Brazil.

 We could propose a change to the libx11 package which adds a
 /usr/share/X11/locale/pt_PT.UTF-8/Compose file. But before proposing
 such a change I would like to ask if it would make as much sense for
 users living in Portugal as the corresponding Brazilian file makes for
 users living in Brazil.

 * Do users who live in Portugal use an English US international
   keyboard layout as often as Brazilian users do, or do they typically
   use some Portuguese keyboard layout?

 * Since the behavior may make typing certain other European languages
   more difficult, is that drawback possibly of greater importance for
   users living in Portugal (Europe)?

 The only Portuguese locales which are supported in Ubuntu are pt_PT and
 pt_BR.

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   cedilla appears as accented c (ć instead of ç) when typing 'c

 Status in central project for keyboard configuration:
   Confirmed
 Status in gtk+2.0 package in Ubuntu:
   Confirmed
 Status in language-selector package in Ubuntu:
   Fix Released
 Status in libx11 package in Ubuntu:
   New
 Status in xkeyboard-config package in Ubuntu:
   Confirmed

 Bug description:

   When typing in a US-international keyboard with dead-keys (or
 UK-international),
   typing 'c results in an accented c instead of a cedilla.

   There is a workaround, which is editing the

   /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/immodule-files.d/libgtk2.0-0.immodules

   file and changing the line

   cedilla Cedilla gtk20 /usr/share/locale
   az:ca:co:fr:gv:oc:pt:sq:tr:wa

   to

   cedilla Cedilla gtk20 /usr/share/locale
   az:ca:co:fr:gv:oc:pt:sq:tr:wa:en

   (add the 'en' at the end).

   However, every time some update on this file is applied, one looses the
 change,
   and we get back to the accented c. That means having to modify the file
 again,
   logout and login.

   For me this is no problem. But for my brother, mom, dad, etc, it is
 always something
   that at least makes me less proud of having convinced them to use
 Ubuntu, because
   they don't know what to do each time this happens.

   I think we really need a configurable keyboard layout, or at least (and
 that would
   be very easy), the inclusion of alternate layouts on install that for
 the dead-key
   options (as US-deadkey and UK-deakey), alternate layouts as
 US-deadkey-cedilla.

   This change is relevant for at least Portuguese and French.

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Re: [Bug 518056] Re: cedilla appears as accented c (ć instead of ç) when typing 'c

2015-04-03 Thread Raphael das Neves Calvo
Gunnar

Thank you very much for your time trying to solve this bug with the
community.

It is really important for us in Brazil and for Ubuntu as well.

Best regards man!

On Fri, Apr 3, 2015, 10:50 Raphael Calvo raphael.ca...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Gunnar,
 I do agree we must have input from someone from Portugal to validate
 everything we are saying...
 But, even though I especulated about Portugal history the other post with
 MS-DOS configuration data is solid data and can be corroborated with a
 simple web research.

 Regards.

 On Fri, Apr 3, 2015, 10:35 Gunnar Hjalmarsson 518...@bugs.launchpad.net
 wrote:

 Thanks for the additional info, Raphael!

 Both Leandro's research and your input indeed indicate that we should
 make the same change for pt_PT, but it would be good if someone living
 in Portugal could comment on it first, so we don't upload something
 based on speculation.

 Are you Brazilian guys reasonably satisfied with 'the LC_CTYPE approach'
 for now?

 As regards the possible future fcitx issue I mentioned, I filed bug
 #1439231.

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 Title:
   cedilla appears as accented c (ć instead of ç) when typing 'c

 Status in central project for keyboard configuration:
   Confirmed
 Status in gtk+2.0 package in Ubuntu:
   Confirmed
 Status in language-selector package in Ubuntu:
   Fix Released
 Status in libx11 package in Ubuntu:
   New
 Status in xkeyboard-config package in Ubuntu:
   Confirmed

 Bug description:

   When typing in a US-international keyboard with dead-keys (or
 UK-international),
   typing 'c results in an accented c instead of a cedilla.

   There is a workaround, which is editing the

   /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/immodule-files.d/libgtk2.0-0.immodules

   file and changing the line

   cedilla Cedilla gtk20 /usr/share/locale
   az:ca:co:fr:gv:oc:pt:sq:tr:wa

   to

   cedilla Cedilla gtk20 /usr/share/locale
   az:ca:co:fr:gv:oc:pt:sq:tr:wa:en

   (add the 'en' at the end).

   However, every time some update on this file is applied, one looses the
 change,
   and we get back to the accented c. That means having to modify the file
 again,
   logout and login.

   For me this is no problem. But for my brother, mom, dad, etc, it is
 always something
   that at least makes me less proud of having convinced them to use
 Ubuntu, because
   they don't know what to do each time this happens.

   I think we really need a configurable keyboard layout, or at least (and
 that would
   be very easy), the inclusion of alternate layouts on install that for
 the dead-key
   options (as US-deadkey and UK-deakey), alternate layouts as
 US-deadkey-cedilla.

   This change is relevant for at least Portuguese and French.

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Re: [Bug 518056] Re: cedilla appears as accented c (ć instead of ç) when typing 'c

2015-04-03 Thread Raphael das Neves Calvo
Gunnar,
I do agree we must have input from someone from Portugal to validate
everything we are saying...
But, even though I especulated about Portugal history the other post with
MS-DOS configuration data is solid data and can be corroborated with a
simple web research.

Regards.

On Fri, Apr 3, 2015, 10:35 Gunnar Hjalmarsson 518...@bugs.launchpad.net
wrote:

 Thanks for the additional info, Raphael!

 Both Leandro's research and your input indeed indicate that we should
 make the same change for pt_PT, but it would be good if someone living
 in Portugal could comment on it first, so we don't upload something
 based on speculation.

 Are you Brazilian guys reasonably satisfied with 'the LC_CTYPE approach'
 for now?

 As regards the possible future fcitx issue I mentioned, I filed bug
 #1439231.

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 Title:
   cedilla appears as accented c (ć instead of ç) when typing 'c

 Status in central project for keyboard configuration:
   Confirmed
 Status in gtk+2.0 package in Ubuntu:
   Confirmed
 Status in language-selector package in Ubuntu:
   Fix Released
 Status in libx11 package in Ubuntu:
   New
 Status in xkeyboard-config package in Ubuntu:
   Confirmed

 Bug description:

   When typing in a US-international keyboard with dead-keys (or
 UK-international),
   typing 'c results in an accented c instead of a cedilla.

   There is a workaround, which is editing the

   /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/immodule-files.d/libgtk2.0-0.immodules

   file and changing the line

   cedilla Cedilla gtk20 /usr/share/locale
   az:ca:co:fr:gv:oc:pt:sq:tr:wa

   to

   cedilla Cedilla gtk20 /usr/share/locale
   az:ca:co:fr:gv:oc:pt:sq:tr:wa:en

   (add the 'en' at the end).

   However, every time some update on this file is applied, one looses the
 change,
   and we get back to the accented c. That means having to modify the file
 again,
   logout and login.

   For me this is no problem. But for my brother, mom, dad, etc, it is
 always something
   that at least makes me less proud of having convinced them to use
 Ubuntu, because
   they don't know what to do each time this happens.

   I think we really need a configurable keyboard layout, or at least (and
 that would
   be very easy), the inclusion of alternate layouts on install that for
 the dead-key
   options (as US-deadkey and UK-deakey), alternate layouts as
 US-deadkey-cedilla.

   This change is relevant for at least Portuguese and French.

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Re: [Bug 518056] Re: cedilla appears as accented c (ć instead of ç) when typing 'c

2015-04-03 Thread Raphael das Neves Calvo
We can find some evidence of what I am saying here about the Latin Code
page for MS-DOS.

http://www.dosbox.com/wiki/KEYB

Here follows a screenshot of the MS-DOS  character set setup a.k.a.
codepage).


Note that in the keyboard code in Brazil is Empty... That is because on
that time in history we did not have a keyboard. Only in the 90's that we
standardized a Brazilian keyboard (ABNT2).

You can also note that for EVERY Latin country the carachter set was code
page 437 which in modern versions of MS-DOS (I believe since MS-DOS 5.0)
was superseded by code page 850.

The only thing that changes is the keyboard layout (for countries that had
their own layouts) but the combination of symbols and letters to represent
a new one such as ç was the same independent of the keyboard chosen.

Since in Brazil we did not have a specific keyboard we used the US
International (code 103) with the code page set to 850.

Portugal had their own keyboard layout but if they were using the US
international keyboard layout the behavior was the same as here in Brazil.

... Maybe this help...

Regards

Calvo

On Fri, Apr 3, 2015, 09:44 Raphael Calvo raphael.ca...@gmail.com
wrote:

 One more thing...

 In the glory days of DR-DOS/MS-DOS, if I am not mistaken,  there was no
 keyboard setup specially made for Brazil regarding US International
 keyboard. It was a setup for Latin languages, I.e., every country that has
 a latin language was affected (French, portuguese, Italian...)

 Regards

 Calvo

 On Fri, Apr 3, 2015, 09:39 Raphael Calvo raphael.ca...@gmail.com wrote:

 Gunnar,

 My guess here is based on history but maybe I am wrong
 The reason we Brazilians use the US international keyboard so much is
 because in the '70s and '80s we didn't have a national industry to cope
 with our internal demands for products related to computers. Almost every
 single computer we had was imported (leggaly or illegally) from USA or it
 was a clone made by our industry based on an US computer model.

 Portugal may have had a similar issue (I am especulating here) because
 they were also under a dictatorship for some time, but in their case if a
 similar situation occurred than they would probably had access to some
 design made in Europe instead of something from US. Again, I am
 especulating... It is just a theory but Leandro pointed out that he made a
 brief research about this issue being relevant to Portuguese people and he
 found some links to substantiate the claim that Portugueses would be
 benefited from this fix.

 Kind Regards

 Calvo

 On Thu, Apr 2, 2015, 19:50 Gunnar Hjalmarsson 518...@bugs.launchpad.net
 wrote:

 Thanks for your comments re pt_PT, Leandro.

 As long as we consider setting LC_CTYPE, in any of the ways mentioned in
 comment #96, a fix, it should be noted that '+c results in ç
 irrespective of which keyboard layout you use. In other words, the
 changed behavior is not conditioned by the use of an English US
 international keyboard layout, as Raphael suggested in comment #98. I
 assume that this was considered a reasonable behavior for Brazilian
 users, considering which physical keyboards are typically used in
 Brazil.

 We could propose a change to the libx11 package which adds a
 /usr/share/X11/locale/pt_PT.UTF-8/Compose file. But before proposing
 such a change I would like to ask if it would make as much sense for
 users living in Portugal as the corresponding Brazilian file makes for
 users living in Brazil.

 * Do users who live in Portugal use an English US international
   keyboard layout as often as Brazilian users do, or do they typically
   use some Portuguese keyboard layout?

 * Since the behavior may make typing certain other European languages
   more difficult, is that drawback possibly of greater importance for
   users living in Portugal (Europe)?

 The only Portuguese locales which are supported in Ubuntu are pt_PT and
 pt_BR.

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   cedilla appears as accented c (ć instead of ç) when typing 'c

 Status in central project for keyboard configuration:
   Confirmed
 Status in gtk+2.0 package in Ubuntu:
   Confirmed
 Status in language-selector package in Ubuntu:
   Fix Released
 Status in libx11 package in Ubuntu:
   New
 Status in xkeyboard-config package in Ubuntu:
   Confirmed

 Bug description:

   When typing in a US-international keyboard with dead-keys (or
 UK-international),
   typing 'c results in an accented c instead of a cedilla.

   There is a workaround, which is editing the

   /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/immodule-files.d/libgtk2.0-0.immodules

   file and changing the line

   cedilla Cedilla gtk20 /usr/share/locale
   az:ca:co:fr:gv:oc:pt:sq:tr:wa

   to

   cedilla Cedilla gtk20 /usr/share/locale
   az:ca:co:fr:gv:oc:pt:sq:tr:wa:en

   (add the 'en' at the end).

   However, every time some update on this file is applied, one looses
 the change,
   

Re: [Bug 518056] Re: cedilla appears as accented c (ć instead of ç) when typing 'c

2015-03-31 Thread Raphael das Neves Calvo
1) Windows - US International + Br.PT - '+c = ç
2) Windows - US International + EN.US - '+c = 'c
3) Ubuntu - US International + Br.PT - '+c = ć
4) Ubuntu - US International + EN.US - '+c = 'c
My expectation would be to have the behavior #1 == #3 across the whole
environment, i.e., terminal, gedit, libreoffice...

Previous versions and flavors don't need to be fixed, IMHO.
Focus on the next release because we already have workarounds for the
previous releases.

Regards

On Tue, Mar 31, 2015, 19:15 Gunnar Hjalmarsson 518...@bugs.launchpad.net
wrote:

 On 31/03/2015 23:37, Gunnar Hjalmarsson wrote:
  Just like you I think it would be more natural to create an
  alternative keyboard layout which could be selected in Text Entry. I
  just don't know if and if so how it could be accomplished.

 To clarify: As you know, I figured out how to add an alternative
 keyboard layout. What I don't know is how you would fix it in xkeyboard-
 config so the same dead key behaves differently depending on the letter.

 One possibility which we haven't discussed is to use some *other* key
 for dead_cedilla, and leave the behavior of the dead_acute key as is. I
 see two problems with that, though:

 1. No obvious dispensable key which could be used for the purpose.

 2. It would be a brand new behavior for the users, and different from
how it works on Windows.

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 Status in central project for keyboard configuration:
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 Status in gtk+2.0 package in Ubuntu:
   Confirmed
 Status in xkeyboard-config package in Ubuntu:
   Confirmed

 Bug description:

   When typing in a US-international keyboard with dead-keys (or
 UK-international),
   typing 'c results in an accented c instead of a cedilla.

   There is a workaround, which is editing the

   /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/immodule-files.d/libgtk2.0-0.immodules

   file and changing the line

   cedilla Cedilla gtk20 /usr/share/locale
   az:ca:co:fr:gv:oc:pt:sq:tr:wa

   to

   cedilla Cedilla gtk20 /usr/share/locale
   az:ca:co:fr:gv:oc:pt:sq:tr:wa:en

   (add the 'en' at the end).

   However, every time some update on this file is applied, one looses the
 change,
   and we get back to the accented c. That means having to modify the file
 again,
   logout and login.

   For me this is no problem. But for my brother, mom, dad, etc, it is
 always something
   that at least makes me less proud of having convinced them to use
 Ubuntu, because
   they don't know what to do each time this happens.

   I think we really need a configurable keyboard layout, or at least (and
 that would
   be very easy), the inclusion of alternate layouts on install that for
 the dead-key
   options (as US-deadkey and UK-deakey), alternate layouts as
 US-deadkey-cedilla.

   This change is relevant for at least Portuguese and French.

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Re: [Bug 518056] Re: cedilla appears as accented c (ć instead of ç) when typing 'c

2015-03-27 Thread Raphael das Neves Calvo
Could someone check out the ibus theory that I mentioned. I am currently
without a computer... Just mobile.

On Fri, Mar 27, 2015, 13:50 Leandro 518...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote:

 I have reported the bug again, at site and package suggested by Gunnar:

 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=89795

 Leandro.

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 Title:
   cedilla appears as accented c (ć instead of ç) when typing 'c

 Status in gtk+2.0 package in Ubuntu:
   Confirmed
 Status in xkeyboard-config package in Ubuntu:
   Confirmed

 Bug description:

   When typing in a US-international keyboard with dead-keys (or
 UK-international),
   typing 'c results in an accented c instead of a cedilla.

   There is a workaround, which is editing the

   /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/immodule-files.d/libgtk2.0-0.immodules

   file and changing the line

   cedilla Cedilla gtk20 /usr/share/locale
   az:ca:co:fr:gv:oc:pt:sq:tr:wa

   to

   cedilla Cedilla gtk20 /usr/share/locale
   az:ca:co:fr:gv:oc:pt:sq:tr:wa:en

   (add the 'en' at the end).

   However, every time some update on this file is applied, one looses the
 change,
   and we get back to the accented c. That means having to modify the file
 again,
   logout and login.

   For me this is no problem. But for my brother, mom, dad, etc, it is
 always something
   that at least makes me less proud of having convinced them to use
 Ubuntu, because
   they don't know what to do each time this happens.

   I think we really need a configurable keyboard layout, or at least (and
 that would
   be very easy), the inclusion of alternate layouts on install that for
 the dead-key
   options (as US-deadkey and UK-deakey), alternate layouts as
 US-deadkey-cedilla.

   This change is relevant for at least Portuguese and French.

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Re: [Bug 518056] Re: cedilla appears as accented c (ć instead of ç) when typing 'c

2015-01-24 Thread Raphael das Neves Calvo
Great article...
I followed and installed on my computer and it works flawlessly.

I think I will use it until the bug is fixed.

Question, if I upgrade to a new Ubuntu version would I have to install him
back again?

Regards

Calvo
On Jan 25, 2015 2:20 AM, gui ambros 518...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote:

 I solved my problem with uim and a custom .XCompose. Works reliably
 across gtk+2.0 and QT. Documented the steps here:

 https://wrgms.com/using-xcompose-with-chrome-and-sublime-text/

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   cedilla appears as accented c (ć instead of ç) when typing 'c

 Status in gtk+2.0 package in Ubuntu:
   Confirmed

 Bug description:

   When typing in a US-international keyboard with dead-keys (or
 UK-international),
   typing 'c results in an accented c instead of a cedilla.

   There is a workaround, which is editing the

   /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/immodule-files.d/libgtk2.0-0.immodules

   file and changing the line

   cedilla Cedilla gtk20 /usr/share/locale
   az:ca:co:fr:gv:oc:pt:sq:tr:wa

   to

   cedilla Cedilla gtk20 /usr/share/locale
   az:ca:co:fr:gv:oc:pt:sq:tr:wa:en

   (add the 'en' at the end).

   However, every time some update on this file is applied, one looses the
 change,
   and we get back to the accented c. That means having to modify the file
 again,
   logout and login.

   For me this is no problem. But for my brother, mom, dad, etc, it is
 always something
   that at least makes me less proud of having convinced them to use
 Ubuntu, because
   they don't know what to do each time this happens.

   I think we really need a configurable keyboard layout, or at least (and
 that would
   be very easy), the inclusion of alternate layouts on install that for
 the dead-key
   options (as US-deadkey and UK-deakey), alternate layouts as
 US-deadkey-cedilla.

   This change is relevant for at least Portuguese and French.

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[Bug 518056] Re: cedilla appears as accented c (ć instead of ç) when typing 'c

2015-01-24 Thread Raphael das Neves Calvo
If the problem is confirmed to be ibus related, as mentioned in my
previous comment, then the package should be set to:

ibus-table-others

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[Bug 518056] Re: cedilla appears as accented c (ć instead of ç) when typing 'c

2015-01-24 Thread Raphael das Neves Calvo
The UIM workaround works perfectly.

The article brought my attention to the possibility of iBus to be the
culprit.

I downloaded part of the source code from

https://code.google.com/p/ibus/downloads/detail?name=ibus-table-
others-1.2.0.20100512.tar.gzcan=2q=

decompressing theibus-table-others-1.2.0.20100512.tar.gz
I found the compose.txt file.
This file has a conversion table for several sequences of two characters, 
including '+c ...

Could someone verify if changing that file in the source would fix the
issue?

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