[Bug 67476] Re: Dialogs of background applications pop up in the foreground

2010-05-28 Thread jmspeex
If you look at my original comment, you'll see that the reason I
commented here is because someone made my earlier bug report a duplicate
of this bug. So if you're not happy, find that person and tell him/her
to stop doing that.

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[Bug 132612] Re: memory leak in evince?

2009-02-13 Thread jmspeex
I'm currently running Intrepid and the problem is *not* fixed. I was
wondering why my system was still using a lot of memory despite the fact
I didn't have that many apps running. So I closed all by one of the
evince documents and checked memory use:

% free
 total   used   free sharedbuffers cached
Mem:   40454523975256  70196  0 126200 617356
-/+ buffers/cache:3231700 813752
Swap:  390378414337922469992

I count only the used -/+ buffers/cache plus the used swap, so that's
4.4 GB used by the system. I then close the last evince document and
check memory again.

% free
 total   used   free sharedbuffers cached
Mem:   40454523057952 987500  0 126304 613112
-/+ buffers/cache:23185361726916
Swap:  3903784 5331843370600

Using the same method, that's 2.7 GB use (still too much, but that's
another issue). So evince was *effectively* using 1.7 GB just to display
one document (plus most likely the leaks from the documents I opened and
closed). No, there was nothing special about the document I had open.

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[Bug 51662] Re: Runaway leak in composer

2008-08-02 Thread jmspeex
I also believe it's related to copy-paste, because it always triggers a
bit after a paste.

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[Bug 51662] Re: Runaway leak in composer

2008-07-31 Thread jmspeex
Sebastien, I *did* try valgrind. The problem was that evolution
generates so many warnings that valgrind's useless. It's also incredibly
slow (evo+valgrind) that you can't run that all the time. Some people
also gave stack traces, so don't say there was no info provided. Also,
in my case, I wasn't using any plugin or anything like that when I had
the problem. I'm glad the bug seems to be fixed with Hardy, though I'm
staying with Thunderbird anyway.

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[Bug 51662] Re: Runaway leak in composer

2008-07-30 Thread jmspeex
I think the main reason you're getting no more information is that:
1) No information has been provided by the developers
2) Most people really affected by this bug have probably switched to another 
client just like I've done. 
You need to understand that the bug's been around for years now and that it 
makes evolution so much of a pain to use when you're effected by it, that 
switching is pretty much the only viable option (I resisted about 9 months).

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[Bug 158177] Re: Evince presentations start in a window if evince is fullscreen and compiz is enabled

2008-01-29 Thread jmspeex
I'm having similar problems with evince when I enable compiz. Basically,
evince will open with the wrong geometry (slightly higher than the
screen) and more than half its window would be outside the screen (top-
left corner almost at the centre of the screen). But evince is not the
only application that screws up. Lyx opens all its dialogs so far in the
top-left corner of the screen that I can't see the title bar. Same thing
for openoffice.org which not only does that but also has completely
wrong geometry for the dialog in the first place (a simple save before
quitting dialog takes half the screen). None of those problems happen
with compiz disabled, which brings two possibilities: 1) compiz is
horribly broken when it comes to window placement/geometry or 2) compiz
exposes the fact that most X applications are horribly broken when it
comes to placement/geometry. In any case, it's not pretty.

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[Bug 158177] Re: Evince presentations start in a window if evince is fullscreen and compiz is enabled

2008-01-29 Thread jmspeex
Just a minor correction: the openoffice.org do you want to save your
changes? dialog is actually created as full-screen, which is really
annoying to say the least. I've also found the behaviour to be
intermittent.

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[Bug 51662] Re: Runaway leak in composer

2007-04-16 Thread jmspeex
I didn't observe the problem again because I'm no longer using evolution
(mainly because of this bug). All I can remember is that the bug was
often triggered by pasting some text into the compose window. Also, if I
saved the message before killing evolution (it was sometimes possible),
then trying to edit it again after restarting evolution would often
trigger the bug again.

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[Bug 66188] Re: Big memory leak

2007-03-18 Thread jmspeex
How about applying the fix to Dapper? Looks like bug #92143, which I
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[Bug 92143] Re: gnome-session leaks huge amounts of memory on Dapper

2007-03-15 Thread jmspeex
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 66188 ***

Seems to fit the pattern. I had set up a script to check the memory
every minute and it turns out that it leaked exactly 6752 KB every time
I brought up the logout dialog today (and did an xlock, but I don't
think the xlock is the problem here).

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[Bug 92143] gnome-session leaks huge amounts of memory on Dapper

2007-03-13 Thread jmspeex
Public bug reported:

Binary package hint: gnome-session

There is a memory leak in gnome-session that is causing it to slowly fill all 
available memory. My machine has now been up for 50 days and ps shows 523MB:
jm5249  0.0  4.8 536232 49752 ?Ss   Jan24   1:30 
x-session-manager

Using pmap, I see:
% pmap 5249
5249:   x-session-manager
08048000112K r-x--  /usr/bin/gnome-session
08064000  4K rw---  /usr/bin/gnome-session
08065000   3128K rw---[ anon ]
96973000 465888K rw---[ anon ]
b3703000  33760K rw---[ anon ]
b58e9000   9112K r  /usr/share/icons/gnome/icon-theme.cache
... [the rest looks normal]

The offending like is obviously 96973000 465888K rw---[ anon ],
which unfortunately isn't very useful (except maybe to exclude some
dso).

The leak grows at a slow, steady pace (or so it seems) over time, until
I kill the X session or shutdown the machine. Even if I close all
applications (e.g. firefox, gnome-terminal, ...), the memory use doesn't
go down.

Machine info:
Dell D810 laptop
Pentium-M 2.13 GHz, 1 GB RAM
1 GB swap
Dapper 6.10 with up-to-date patches
Gnome environment

** Affects: gnome-session (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
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[Bug 51662] Re: Runaway leak in composer

2006-12-01 Thread jmspeex
Actually, I originally filed this bug against Dapper... In any case,
installing thunderbird solved the problem permanently for me and I'm not
looking back (took about an hour to copy mail around and configure).
It's not perfect, but it's much more stable and has never crashed my
machine.

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[Bug 30146] Re: gnome-panel doesn't show all menu items

2006-10-23 Thread jmspeex
I confirm that the bug is *still* present in Edgy. And it's *really*
annoying!

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[Bug 67476] Re: Dialogs of background applications pop up in the foreground

2006-10-21 Thread jmspeex
I don't know why the bugs I filed *earlier* are being marked as
duplicates of this bug -- especially considering that what I reported is
much more general than this. The problem is not restricted to dialogs.
New windows -- in general -- should not steal the focus. Not only can
this be a security issue when entering a password (notice how gksu
prevents any window from opening), but it's also inconsistant with the
focus follows mouse policy.

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[Bug 54741] Re: New windows stealing focus -- and passwords?

2006-09-29 Thread jmspeex
Yes, that would make sense because if it's a modal dialog, you can't
type in the main application window anyway. That's the only case I see
where stealing the focus is OK, and it's not really stealing because
that's what a modal dialog does *by definition*.

The only question remaining is what would make sense when a new window
opens right where the mouse is currently located (assuming focus follows
mouse). My best guess would be to not give it focus until the mouse
moves.

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[Bug 54741] Re: New windows stealing focus -- and passwords?

2006-09-28 Thread jmspeex
 The consisteny issue is about having consistent *security* behaviour. I
 can't see why some passwords are deemed more important than others.
I didn't they that was not a bug, I just wrote that is was not the same
 issue than the focus issue initially described so it could use a
 different bug, any issue with that?

OK, so I've followed your advice and filed Bug #62893 to have the
password security feature of the update-notifier applet removed for
consistency reasons (because metacity stealing my ssh password seems to
be considered as an important feature).

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[Bug 54741] Re: New windows stealing focus -- and passwords?

2006-08-24 Thread jmspeex
I totally agree. What I don't get is that there's simply no logical 
justification to the current behaviour (at least when focus follows mouse is 
selected), yet they still don't want to change it. Sure, maybe Windows does it 
like that, but Windows doesn't have focus follows mouse either. Two minutes 
ago, I again accidently typed my ssh password in a newly open window. 
Fortunately, that window was from a local application (thunderbird), but it's 
only a matter of time before I get screwed by that. Would anyone who disagrees 
with fixing the problem care answering these simple questions:
1) Why would anyone want newly open windows to take focus?
2) Why would anyone want that to happen when focus follows mouse is selected?
3) Why should that even be enabled by default?
4) Why should there be no way to even disable the feature?

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[Bug 54741] Re: New windows stealing focus -- and passwords?

2006-08-09 Thread jmspeex
 Because your admin password can be immediately used to compromize 
 your computer, whereas your ssh or gpg passwords may or may not 
 be used that way.

I would argue the opposite. The sudo password is *by default* useless
because ubuntu doesn't install a local ssh server by default. Your
outgoing ssh password (on the remote machine) on the other hand can
almost always be exploited.

 However, if you type 'sudo' in the shell, it does not protect your admin
 password in such a way.

So by this argument we should go for consistency and make sure that all
apps support the password can be stolen feature in the same way, i.e.
remove the shading/blocking of the display when config tools ask for the
admin password?

 I still think this isn't a bug. It might be a feature request, but I would 
 never support it as one either.

No matter how you look at it, it *is* a bug. Even if you don't care about 
sensitive info being released, the fact remains that:
1) giving focus to a new window breaks the focus follows mouse rule if you 
have it selected (the focus is given to a window that isn't under the mouse 
pointer).
2) The gconf option to disable the auto-stealing has no effect, so I'm stuck 
with that bad behaviour even if I'm willing to dig up gconf-editor.

Last thing, may I ask what would be so bad with metacity doing the right
thing and not letting any new window steal the focus?

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[Bug 54741] Re: New windows stealing focus -- and passwords?

2006-08-09 Thread jmspeex
 when you open a new folder with nautilus spatial or an application
 from the panel menu you probably want them taking the focus
 instead of having the previous nautilus window of the panel keeping it

This may (or may not) be handled as an exception to the don't steal
focus rule. Even then, it would be wrong when the user selects focus
follows mouse. It's called focus follows mouse, not focus follows
mouse, except what a window feels like it should get focus.

But at this point, nautilus is actually the only app that (in some
circumstances) doesn't steal focus. Still, I see no reason justifying
that a window opening unpredictably (e.g. error message, web popup, IM
popup) automatically gains focus.

 The consistency issue is a a bug but that's a different topic of the one
 discussion initially here so please use a new bug for it so the discussion
 can be kept on track

The consisteny issue is about having consistent *security* behaviour. I
can't see why some passwords are deemed more important than others.

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[Bug 54741] Re: New windows stealing focus -- and passwords?

2006-08-08 Thread jmspeex
One thing I would like to point out. A new feature in Dapper is that
when starting up an config tool that requires the admin password (e.g.
update manager), then the screen goes dark to prevent other windows from
opening (and steeling focus) at the same time. Why is it considered that
the admin password is worth protecting, but not my ssh password, or my
gpg password, ...?

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[Bug 54741] Re: New windows stealing focus -- and passwords?

2006-08-01 Thread jmspeex
Funny, doing the 'sleep 5; nautilus' *and* typing in another window is
the first case of things (sort of) behaving correctly. Any process other
than nautilus steals the focus. If I try the same with xterm, gnome-
terminal, konsole, gimp, ... the new window steals the focus. Clearly,
it should be the WM's responsability to enforce sane focus policies, or
else we'll end up filing thousands of upstream bugs. Even if it worked,
one second timeout isn't very useful because it typically takes more
than that between the time you type ssh remote.machine.net and the
time you type your password.

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[Bug 48226] Re: auto-hidden panel sometime jumps to the top of the screen

2006-07-31 Thread jmspeex
The first and third issues are indeed covered in the bugs you linked. The 
second, however isn't:
2) When clicking on the main menu button, sometimes the panel hides itself and 
the menu pops up too low -- the bottom of the menu is aligned with the bottom 
of the screen instead of the top of the (still un-hiden) panel.

If you look at the screenshots I attached, they show two bugs at the
same time. The one from bug #30146 is that the menus are truncated. The
one I had in 2) is that the toplevel menu opened too low (hiding part of
the panel). These may or may not be related.

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[Bug 54741] New windows stealing focus -- and passwords?

2006-07-31 Thread jmspeex
Public bug reported:

Binary package hint: metacity

I'm resubmitting bug #51242 because I'm now convinced it has potential
to be successfully exploited remotely to steal user passwords. It
basically comes down to the fact that metacity gives by default (which
is impossible to change for me) the focus to a newly open window. This
can have many hazardous consequences (e.g. typing rm -rf * in the
wrong window), but also security implications:

Consider Alice logging on to Bob's server with ssh. Malicious user
Mallory is already logged on to the server, detects the login attempt
(e.g. seeing sshd starting with ps) and automatically sends an IM
message to Alice (Hi Alice, how are you?). There is a non-zero
probability that Alice will not notice the new IM window instantly and
accidently type his/her password right into Mallory's IM window, giving
away her password.

I think there may also be a way for rogue websites to open unexpected
popups. It could be even more effective in some way because the new
window can be made very small (unnoticeable if not for the change of the
focus) and send the typed text to the attacker directly without the user
needing to press the enter key.

** Affects: metacity (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Untriaged
 Status: Unconfirmed

** Visibility changed to: Public

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[Bug 54741] Re: New windows stealing focus -- and passwords?

2006-07-31 Thread jmspeex
So your argument is that if a vulnerability has been there for long
enough (or affects another OS), it's OK to leave it there? If a user
want to be affected by that, it's his/her choice, but the sane behaviour
should be the default. Or, in the minimal case, applications that can be
controlled remotely (e.g. IM, web browser, IRC client) should *never*
grab focus by default. It's just asking for (remotely exploitable)
trouble.

As to whether it's a good idea to automatically give focus to a window
that was explicitly requested by the user, I guess it's debatable. I
personally think it's dangerous, especially when your machine is slow
because you can open a terminal, not seeing it come up for several
seconds (I've seen minutes for a machine swapping heavily) and then go
back to another terminal. When the terminal you tried opening shows up,
it'll get whatever text you were typing at the moment. Technically, that
part wouldn't be a security issue because the worst you can do is
deleting your home directory (rm -rf ending up in the wrong terminal
window) but nodoby can remotely get you to do that.

BTW, I tried:
gconftool-2 --set /apps/metacity/general/focus_new_windows --type string strict
as suggested by another user and it didn't change anything. Any new window I 
open still grabs the focus.

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[Bug 54741] Re: New windows stealing focus -- and passwords?

2006-07-31 Thread jmspeex
Have you ever typed your password in clear in another window that just
opened? I have -- several times. Usually, it just goes into a local
window and only the people around me could see it (which is bad
already), but I don't see why it couldn't happen accidently or
deliberately through IM or a web browser. We're not talking movie plots
-- accidents are bound to happen and I'm sure have happened in the past
because of that. In terms of remote exploit, it sure wouldn't be that
hard to have a script automatically IM when they attempt to log in.
Still requires knowing the person, but it's certainly not a good thing.
The chances of succes would probably be in the order of 1-5%: small, but
significant if you try several times. Put another way, would you feel
safe telling me what your IM nick is and giving me an account on a
machine you often ssh to with a password (not ssh key)?

It's not like I'm advocating removing a feature or drastically changing
anything, just changing the default to something a bit more sane.
Stealing focus by default is just plain stupid. It's also totally
counter-intuitive when you have the focus follows mouse or sloppy
focus policy because you end up with the focus not going to the window
that has the mouse in it. So even if it weren't a general hazard, it
would still be the wrong behaviour for sloopy/follows mouse focus.

So basically, I see many reasons for fixing it and not many for leaving
it is (except for everybody else is doing it).

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[Bug 54741] Re: New windows stealing focus -- and passwords?

2006-07-31 Thread jmspeex
 that this doesn't seem to be a general nautilus issue

I assume you meant metacity issue here. I think there must be some
soft of confusion in here. On all three Dapper machines I have, I have
yet to see a *single* case of a window opening *without* getting focus.
Click on the panel to open a terminal? New terminal opens with the
focus. I type xterm in an existing terminal, a new xterm opens with
focus. Start any application, either from the panel of from a terminal
command line? It comes up with focus. Gaim does that too, so does
firefox, *everything*. Even if I try setting metacity to strict focus.
It seems like I am not the only why seeing that (see bug #51242), so the
only thing I don't understand is why you don't seem to see that. Comes
down to two options: 1) we're talking about something different or 2)
somehow the problem is triggered by some combination of config options.

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[Bug 51242] Re: New windows shouldn't steal focus

2006-07-30 Thread jmspeex
Having a key in gconf is nice, but it doesn't change the fact that
automatically giving focus to a new window (by default!) constitutes not
only a security issue (typing a passwd in the wrong window), but a
potential for data loss (typing rm -rf * in the wrong terminal). Maybe
I should file it under security so it gets some attention.

The security issue is very real and probably wouldn't be that hard to
exploit remotely. Consider Alice logging on to Bob's server with ssh.
Malicious user Mallory is already logged on the server and detects the
attempt (seeing sshd starting with ps) and automatically sends an IM
message to Alice (Hi Alice, how are you?). There is a non-zero
probability that Alice will not see the IM window open and accidently
type his/her password right into Mallory's IM window, giving away her
password.

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[Bug 51242] Re: New windows shouldn't steal focus

2006-07-30 Thread jmspeex
Not sure what's going on with metacity/gconf, but I tried:
gconftool-2 --set /apps/metacity/general/focus_new_windows --type string strict
and though the setting was changed (checked with gconf-editor), there's no 
change in metacity's behaviour.

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[Bug 48226] Re: Autohide bugs

2006-07-11 Thread jmspeex
I've seen the same problem on a panel with default size and with a panel
of size 52. I've been trying a bit with the panel at the top. I've tried
with the panel up and I haven't been able to reproduce the jumping panel
bug. Maybe the bug is only with panel at the bottom or maybe it's
because of the way I use it when it's at the bottom. In any case, the
bug happens for me about once a day or so. The more vm activity there
is, the more the bug happens, which is why I think it's related to
timing issues.

For example, say the panel has a hide timeout of 300 ms and is currently
hidden. I touch it with the mouse pointer to make it show up, but
quickly move my pointer away. It seems like the panel starts counting
(hide timeout) at the moment I ask it to unhide. If it takes more than
300 ms for the panel to appear (machine swaps), it actually tries to
hide itself before it has even unhidden itself from the first action.
That leads to strange behaviour like what I describe in this bug report
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[Bug 48226] Re: Autohide bugs

2006-07-10 Thread jmspeex
Anything else needed to confirm this bug? I would think the
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[Bug 36581] Re: gam_server consumes lots of cpu time

2006-07-06 Thread jmspeex
Until the problem is fixed, I think Ubuntu should include an option to
just disable gamin without having to remove the binary. Considering the
little benefit it provides (haven't really noticed a difference after
removing it), gamin causes far more harm than it helps. Actually
disabling it by default would be even better.

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[Bug 51662] Re: Runaway leak in composer

2006-07-05 Thread jmspeex
How do I do that? Sorry, not familiar with that bug tracking system.

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[Bug 51662] Re: Runaway leak in composer

2006-07-04 Thread jmspeex
I'm running Dapper, but I remember seeing the problem on Breezy (and IIRC 
earlier) as well. AFAIK, I don't use any special plugin and I don't use the 
exchange connector. I tried running valgrind but not only is that incredibly 
slow, but there are hundreds of errors and leaks reported. The summary is:
==17420== ERROR SUMMARY: 10757 errors from 583 contexts (suppressed: 211 from 1)
==17420== malloc/free: in use at exit: 19,248,789 bytes in 292,773 blocks.
==17420== malloc/free: 4,834,032 allocs, 4,541,259 frees, 280,995,543 bytes 
allocated.
...
==17420== LEAK SUMMARY:
==17420==definitely lost: 26,492 bytes in 541 blocks.
==17420==indirectly lost: 67,047 bytes in 1,625 blocks.
==17420==  possibly lost: 375,893 bytes in 557 blocks.
==17420==still reachable: 18,779,357 bytes in 290,050 blocks.
==17420== suppressed: 0 bytes in 0 blocks.

As I mentioned earlier, the problem only happens once every few weeks
(but crashes my machine 50% of the time), so it's hard to reproduce.
Unfortunately, it's just not feasible to run evolution under valgrind
all the time.

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[Bug 51662] Re: Runaway leak in composer

2006-07-04 Thread jmspeex
Well, any suggestion as to how to obtain debug info? It's not like using
valgrind+evolution as my main mail client for weeks is a realistic
option. Not to mention the fact that even if that was possible, valgrind
would have reported so many errors already that the real one would be
buried in Megabytes of data. I'm open to other methods, though.

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[Bug 51662] Runaway leak in composer

2006-07-03 Thread jmspeex
Public bug reported:

Binary package hint: evolution

Every once in a while, the evolution composer becomes out of control
while leaking memory. This usually makes my system completely
unresponsive within about 10-30 seconds. Evolution's memory footprints
grows at a very fast rate until it gets killed by the OOM or I hit the
power button (whichever comes first depending on the amount of swap
space I have). I have noticed that this tends to happen just after I
paste some text in the window, but I have not found a way to reliably
reproduce the problem. This is quite a severe problem because the leak
happens so fast that I don't have time to react and kill evolution
before the system becomes unresponsive. On any machine with more than 1
GB swap, the result is a complete lockup -- there's no way out of this
than to reboot the machine because the swapping goes on forever.

** Affects: evolution (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Untriaged
 Status: Unconfirmed

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[Bug 51242] Re: New windows shouldn't steal focus

2006-07-01 Thread jmspeex
I sometimes use the panel, sometimes the terminal. I don't see what it
changes. In all cases, the windows that open get focus automatically,
which is just plain bad.

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[Bug 51242] Re: New windows shouldn't steal focus

2006-07-01 Thread jmspeex
OK, just trying to understand... Are you telling me that on your
machine, the windows popup without gaining focus automatically? This
happens on all three Dapper (and previous releases) machines I have, so
I just assumed that it was the case for everyone.

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[Bug 51242] Re: New windows shouldn't steal focus

2006-06-29 Thread jmspeex
Bug #43760 was more about the fact that evolution shouldn't make
warnings pop all the time. I think this bug is more fundamental in the
sense that even if popping up a window is justified, it is *never* (I
still haven't found a counter-example) justified to make the new window
steal focus. It's a very dangerous thing to do. Most (older) window
managers used to have an option to control that. Not only did metacity
remove that option, but it left the bad behaviour as the only option
available.

Here's another case to consider -- a bit unlikely, but quite catastrophic.
1) My system has a high load and is slow
2) I fire up a terminal, but it takes a long time before showing up
3) I go back to another terminal and in some directory, I type rm -rf *
4) A fraction of a second before 3) happens, my new terminal pops up and steals 
focus (without me noticing)
5) I just deleted my entire home directory because I didn't notice 4) fast 
enough.

I'd basically call this a user-based race condition.

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[Bug 51242] New windows shouldn't steal focus

2006-06-28 Thread jmspeex
Public bug reported:

Binary package hint: metacity

Whenever a new window pops up on Dapper, metacity assigns the focus to
it. This is bad behaviour. While Dapper solved the problem for some
password entries, it remains that whenever typing in a terminal or text
editor, one never knows if/when a popup will appear and where the text
will end up. For example, I could by typing my ssh password in a
terminal and a browser window pops up -- next thing I know, I just hit
return and submitted my password to some random site.

** Affects: metacity (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Untriaged
 Status: Unconfirmed

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[Bug 48226] Re: Autohide bugs

2006-06-25 Thread jmspeex
** Attachment added: Screenshot
   http://librarian.launchpad.net/3153315/panel_bug.png

** Attachment added: screenshot (no bug)
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[Bug 50852] gam_server eats all CPU on Dapper

2006-06-24 Thread jmspeex
Public bug reported:

Binary package hint: gamin

It seems like gamin is still not fixed in Dapper. It would eat all
available CPU on my machine and would respawn automatically when killed
(killing it on Breezy used to at least work for a while). The only way
I've been able to solve my problem is to remove the binary. Would be
nice if it was either fixed or finally eliminated from the distribution.

** Affects: gamin (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Untriaged
 Status: Unconfirmed

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[Bug 50854] gnome-cups-icon memory leak in Dapper

2006-06-24 Thread jmspeex
Public bug reported:

Binary package hint: gnome-cups-manager

I think I've encountered a bad memory leak in gnome-cups-icon. Basically, ps 
gives me:
% ps aux | grep cups-icon
jm   27444  0.2  7.6 217880 79300 ?Ss   Jun07  64:34 
gnome-cups-icon --sm-config-prefix /gnome-cups-icon-ZEJuRy/ --sm-client-id 
1030a3bec80001132633350007725 --screen 0

To make sure it's not just shared (virtual) mem, I tried killing it and
seeing the impact of free (real) memory:

% free
 total   used   free sharedbuffers cached
Mem:   1036000 805184 230816  0   3104  87528
-/+ buffers/cache: 714552 321448
Swap:  1023992 977464  46528

% killall gnome-cups-icon

% free
 total   used   free sharedbuffers cached
Mem:   1036000 722640 313360  0   3392  91068
-/+ buffers/cache: 628180 407820
Swap:  1023992 890556 133436

This means that gnome-cups-icon was really using  about 160 MB of
memory, which it totally unacceptable even if it's not a leak.

** Affects: gnome-cups-manager (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Untriaged
 Status: Unconfirmed

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[Bug 48226] Re: Autohide bugs

2006-06-07 Thread jmspeex
Not sure if would be part of the same bug because it's not only with
auto-hide. When the icons on the main menu take too long to load, the
menu shows up with the size it would take without the icons. Then, when
the icons appear, the menu does not grow and a vertical scrollbar
appears on the menu. This means that the appearance of the menus ends up
depending on the speed of the disk you have -- at least the first time
you use them.

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[Bug 48226] Re: Autohide bugs

2006-06-07 Thread jmspeex
The following setup should make it easier to reproduce the bug:
1) Turn auto-hide on (of course) with an un-hide timeout of 0
2) Turn the HD DMA off
3) Make sure that the machine is swapping a bit
4) Lower the CPU frequency (e.g. 600 MHz - 1 GHz)

This is obviously extreme, but it should make the problem happen more often. My 
actual setup (where the bug still happens) is:
Pentium-M 2.13 GHz (with powernowd often reducing speed to 800 MHz)
1 GB RAM, no swap
HD DMA on.

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[Bug 48226] Re: Autohide bugs

2006-06-06 Thread jmspeex
One note about the second one. Because the menu is displayed too low, it
sometimes happen that simply clicking on the main menu ends up selecting
Quit (which is the first element) at the same time. Quite annoying.

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[Bug 48226] Re: Autohide bugs

2006-06-06 Thread jmspeex
Oh and
3) The Deskbar applet doesn't cope well with auto-hide at all. When moving the 
cursor on the popup list, the panel hides itself. When moving the cursor back 
to the panel, the list disappears.

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[Bug 48226] Autohide bugs

2006-06-03 Thread jmspeex
Public bug reported:

Binary package hint: gnome-panel

I'm noticing two (probably related) problems with the panel in autohide mode. 
Both seem to have to do with timing:
1) Sometimes when the panel un-hides, it jumps to the top of the screen (I have 
it at the bottom) so I need to move it down. This typically happens about twice 
a day.
2) When clicking on the main menu button, sometimes the panel hides itself and 
the menu pops up too low -- the bottom of the menu is aligned with the bottom 
of the screen instead of the top of the (still un-hiden) panel.
In both these cases, it seems to happen when un-hiding the panel (or bringing 
up the menu) requires a disk access (swap or files not in OS cache), causing a 
slight delay. That's why I'd say it's probably timing-related.

** Affects: gnome-panel (Ubuntu)
   Severity: Normal
   Priority: (none set)
 Status: Unconfirmed

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