Perhaps @Rolf meant this bug?
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1754069
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> bug 1751069: restore type-ahead find in nautilus itself
You have linked to the wrong issue.
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This discussion should be continued in the following places in a civil
(!) manner.
Uncivilized language, no matter how angry you are, is likely only to
have the effect of alienating the people in charge. It's in your own
interest to stay civil if you want to get the old behaviour restored.
No
I don’t think anyone has an agenda here. People are searching for a way
to give feedback and to communicate their frustration with this change.
Obviously, this change which broke functionality that many users relied
on caused quite a bit of frustration.
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Why can't you just move on? What is your stupid agenda?
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The real fix for whole modern GNOMEs Hell is simple - do not use it.
Remove it (for example on 20.04 LTS with https://askubuntu.com/a/1233026/66509
) and install normal DE instead - with Caja, Dolphin, Nemo, Thunar or whatever.
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For reference only:
Old gnome bug resolved as obsolete:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=681871
Recent bugs opened with same topic:
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/nautilus/-/issues/1157
- with 9 related tickets closed
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/nautilus/-/issues/1154
** Bug
Actually this one is marked as fixed because it was indeed fixed several
years ago, but then the fix was lost (i.e. the patch not rewritten) when
a new version of gnome was released, "because" search is faster now,
which according to some nonsensical reasoning by those who don't
uderstand this
This ticket was opened 7 years ago, and after 160 comments, nobody seems
to care about.
I lost all my hope that ubuntu or gnome are going to take care of this,
probably 259 affected people is too little for them.
I installed nemo 1 year ago, and didn't come back, I'm happy with nemo
bringing me
SEARCHING IS NOT NAVIGATING, please. Besides the debate on whether the
option to disable search when starting to type should exist (I think it
should), #144 has raised quite an important side effect: searching
should not make it look like files are deleted.
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Debate?
I haven't seen any debate.
And no, your proposed "solution" is no solution to the issue.
That's a good possible improvement to the search itself, but type-ahead should
do select, NOT search for the obvious reasons that have already been pointed
out which are not solved by your proposed
I think a nice way to solve this stupid debate could be to ensure that the
files are displayed in a STABLE order
- type ahead results from the current folder first
- folders first
- files in the current folder before the other files...
what is MOST annoying with the current feature is that when
This change has made the system effectively inappropriate for use in a
business situation where mistakes are to be avoided. In the old system,
searching within a folder for a file to send to a client would only list
files from that folder. Now, file-open and so on show me files from
ANYWHERE ON
So mate used to be great but doesn't seem to be a solution anymore
either, type-ahead-find seemingly has been replaced for search-as-you-
type in mate sometimes this summer as well, too.
+1 for replacement, it could at least be a configuration option
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+1 @teo1978 (teo8976)
Users will decide. The most radical solution would be purging the whole
GNOME desktop and install MATE DE instead. I switched to MATE in 2013
and I'm completely happy with it.
In MATE the Caja file-manager (fork of Nautilus) has normal search even in
19.04. Also it has
> The Gnome team is extremely resistant to bring back the old intuitive
> functionality.
> I tried to explain the problems at
> https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/nautilus/issues/244
> , as did many others.
Trying to reason with the Gnome team is a complete waste of time.
That's why Ubuntu should
Please bring this functionality to Ubuntu's Nautilus. Disco now has the
distressing search functionality extended even to the save dialog.
The Gnome team is extremely resistant to bring back the old intuitive
functionality. I tried to explain the problems at
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Agree with Grant, not easy, but doable.
I migrated to nemo 42 days ago following this guide:
https://www.linuxuprising.com/2018/07/how-to-replace-nautilus-with-nemo-file.html
I must say I can't be more happy :-)
Again things work as I would expect in a file explorer.
Typeahead works - but also
I am switching to Nemo because of this.
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This is an upstream GNOME bug (though you might want to make the case that
Ubuntu should deviate from the default GNOME behaviour for this issue, in which
case please open a new bug since I don't think standard practice is to re-open
old bugs like this when it has been fixed in an Ubuntu
I don't know how long it will take, but in the meantime Ubuntu could
ship the patch maintained by the Arch community:
https://aur.archlinux.org/cgit/aur.git/tree/nautilus-restore-
typeahead.patch?h=nautilus-typeahead
It looks like this patch is kept up to date pretty well. There is a
similar
> In reality,
> recursive search is useful, and I want to use it, but it's different to
> typeahead
Exactly, they are two completely different, unrelated things, and if the
Nautilus devs can't understand something as elementary as that, Ubuntu
shouldn't be using software developed by those people
Is there any timeline as to when this stupidity is going to be fixed?
This is a very very very basic functionality for any file explorer;
something any new application should add. Taking it out of a software
that has already had it for years and annoying people who rely on it is
simply illogical.
I don't think it's true that an option is always good. I think software
should endeavour to have decent default options, and if multiple use
cases can be accommodated without an option, then that is preferable.
But you're right, a recursive search with ctrl-f vs typeahaed with
simple typing would
There's no need for an option.
You can already do a recursive search with Ctrl+F.
I "can't believe" one would want to enable type-ahead-recursive-search instead
of type-ahead-select-in-current-folder by default just to spare themselves the
trouble of hitting Ctrl+F.
However, an option, even if
Today, as often, I installed Ubuntu to a new Linux user, coming from Windows.
Everything is great and well designed, intuitive, and quick ... then ... this
lady began to feel confortable and wanted to quickly jump to the photo named
"IMG232.jpg"; so she started to type "IMG" on her folder,
Yeah right.
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@Javier
if by "they" you mean the upstream Nautilus developers, that's right:
they don't even understand it's a bug. The Gnome development team, or at
least the part responsible for Naitulus, has proven many times to be a
bunch of idiots. For the last several years, they have taken many design
They do not think to fix It
:(
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Why the fuck hasn't this been reopened yet??
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I installed a PPA that served as a workaround, until an update this
morning. Now there is no type-ahead and the PPA does not work. One
more vote for a type-ahead.
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I think the change is interesting - what seems annoying is to force the
user - not letting us choose. In my case - installing back the old
nautilus.
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One more vote for a type-ahead navigation rather than a search. The
search is stupid.
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I changed to Dolphin :-(
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+1. Type-ahead is basic expected functionality of a file browser.
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This stupid behavior isn't only inconvinient,
-> this really BREAKS FUNCTIONALITY if you work on network resources.
Especially in Germany where possible internet speeds in many locations
do not exeed well known dialup connection speeds.
What happens then is a complete lockup on nautilus while
OK. So I was a happy user of 16.04. With a new computer in August, I
thought it would make sense to go with 18.04.
One of the biggest issues is this searching stuff in Nautilus. Why?
1. It is not instant (unlike the type/find ahead of Nautilus in 16.04). I
cannot type and then press enter and
Please put this back in.
I never understand why developers /remove/ features instead of leaving
them in and making it an option.
The previous org->gnome->nautilus->preferences setting accomplished this
fine and should have been left active.
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The most painful thing in Ubuntu 18.04. The search functionality is
terrible when I just want to navigate to certain folder/file in a long
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There is a fundamental difference between search (what you do when you
don't know where something is) and navigate (what you do when you know
exactly where something is, and want to go there). Why the gnome team
have chosen to conflate them, and their mental state while doing so, is
anyone's
> I can't completely understand what GNOME developers are trying to achieve!
> 18.04 LTS and 18.10 are trying to perform search after entering first letter.
The underlying assumption seems to be that when you type the name of a
file, the only thing you may possibly want is to search for that
I can't completely understand what GNOME developers are trying to achieve!
This functionality was used for years.
Ubuntu 14.04 LTS and 16.04 are not affected.
But 18.04 LTS and 18.10 are trying to perform search after entering first
letter.
The patch for Nautilus in 18.04 LTS is available (see
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Unbelievable.
Upgraded to Ubuntu 18.04 to find out about this crappy behaviour.
Please fix it.
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> Please only send constructive comments.
Here's a constructive comment: Ubuntu, as a distribution, should switch
to another default file manager other than Nautilus, because Nautilus is
poorly maintained and the upstream developers keep making bad design
decisions that only make the software
@teo1978 could you please spare us your comments, they are offensive and
does not help. Please only send constructive comments.
If you want to affect the right people into understanding your point of
view, then you will have a much better chance if you are nice to begin
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> Sounds to me like those in charge of deciding the direction of gnome /
> nautilus / etc.
> don't really think about the users as much as they should
They don't THINK much at all, let alone about the users.
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What's the status on this please? Someone seems to be maintaining a PPA
that restores the functionality over at https://launchpad.net/~lubomir-
brindza/+archive/ubuntu/nautilus-typeahead
how hard would it be to just accept that version as the official
version of nautilus?
Sounds to me like
Why don't we have both options? Why removing something that we like
(find folder/file with a letter) and insisting on something else
(search)? I am trying to get used to this new behavior for almost a
week, but it is just slowing me down.
This could be implemented as simple as this:
## keypress
In Ubuntu 18.04 this problem is now present again :-( it is really
annoying...
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Try this: https://launchpad.net/~lubomir-brindza/+archive/ubuntu
/nautilus-typeahead
The changes are based on the patch from Arch community
(https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/nautilus-typeahead/), with slight
modifications to work on 3.26.3 release.
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Very often files many subfolders contain files with the same name as in
the folder you are browsing. Example: Makefiles, .git folders, etc. With
recursive search these files all show up without a clear way to
distinguish them. :(
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Perhaps a legit workaround: https://askubuntu.com/questions/980855/make-
nemo-produce-desktop-icons-gnome-3-26-1-on-ubuntu-17-10
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> Anyway I did, like yesterday, and it got closed
> (can't find it right now [...])
Here:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1754069
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"not so well developed/maintained"? You mean worse than Nautilus??
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Unfortunately this is really a deal-breaker for me and forces me to drop
Nautilus and experiment with other, perhaps not so well
developed/maintained, GUI file managers. What a pity.
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> If that is genuinely the reason (and this bug has been marked as "Fix
> Released"
> since Jan 2014, so it seems correct), then is it not time to raise a new bug?
Maybe (though it seems a little stupid to raise a new bug for exactly
the same issue).
Anyway I did, like yesterday, and it got
@adpsimpson-gmail there is already #181:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/181
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> Oh I see why: most of us cannot change back the status of the bug once
it has been changed to "fix released" (which is stupid, too).
If that is genuinely the reason (and this bug has been marked as "Fix
Released" since Jan 2014, so it seems correct), then is it not time to
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@109 this is already known to be the wrong behavior. It was introduced long ago
by the hopelessly stupid Nautilus people, and patched by Ubuntu to reestablish
the old sensible behavior, but something must have gone wrong in the latest
release and so the idiocy has resurfaced.
What I don't
The old behaviour was one of the power features of Nautilus for a person
that uses keyboard navigation. The new behaviour is dramatically
different and frankly doesn't work as well for many use cases.
Lets say I want to quickly navigate to
~/code/myproject/module/__init__.py.
1. I switch to
This is really awful!
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As someone who constantly uses type-ahead find when browsing files, I
can't stand the current behavior. Who actually wants it this way? I'm
replacing Nautilus for now, please fix this.
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17.10, this is annoying as hell.
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Fucking unbelievable
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I can also confirm on 17.10 (3.26.0)
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I can confirm there's an issue again on Ubuntu 17.10
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This is up to date again in 17.10
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@Ajay: That's a rather subjective opinion! Search will always get slow on huge
folders. Because of the technical nature of type-ahead it is still fast even on
huge folder contents. When I use type-ahead it takes me less than 1 second to
choose and enter a folder.
I know my folders and their
Jumping to the file beginning with the typed letter is NOT the best
behavior.
Searching all the folders and subfolders when something is typed is also
not the best behavior.
THE BEST BEHAVIOR IS:
Searching all the folders and subfolders when something is typed is the
best behavior given a
Until the best behavior (mentioned above) is incorporated, I recommend
using the fallback mode: grep and find.
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I totally second comments #90 and #91
This bug demonstrates (if any more proof was needed) that Nautilus needs to be
replaced with something else by default in Ubuntu (and in any distro trying to
be of any use), quite urgently.
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Any chance this bug will be closed soon or is there a long review
process?
The fix has been released already in Ubuntu
(https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+changelog). If you're
asking about GNOME, then contact a GNOME developer or comment on their
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Daniel, I believe you should now be awarded the Bountysource bounty for
this bug. It hasn't closed yet (probably because this bug still points
to an open GNOME issue that is only semi-related), but I just emailed
them asking to close the bounty. They're usually pretty responsive so I
expect to
@Adam: Thanks, much appreciated!
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Any chance this bug will be closed soon or is there a long review
process? (I could use the bounty)
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Whenever developers shows lack of interest in use-case based
feature-implementation, i just point them to this bug. If the still
don't get it, i'll tell them to open the /usr/share/themes-folder in
Nautilus using just a keyboard. Most of them will just yell obscenities
and set PCManFM or Thunar as
Thanks to the people fixing this bug, in the first place. However, I'm
sorry to put it in this way but Blaster pointed out what is the real bug
which caused this one. It is the strange policy in the Nautilus
development. This might be fixed by changing the policy or changing the
file manager in
@Vaclav Petras (wenzeslaus) #91
For now the only solid fix for the bug is this:
1) Install PCManFM via Ubuntu Software Center
2) ctrl+alt+T or a terminal
3) Do this: (works on both Gnome Shell and Unity)
xdg-mime default pcmanfm.desktop inode/directory
sudo mv
Thanks everyone. Can't wait for 14.04. Using nautilus in 13.10 is
insufferable.
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I'm pretty happy to see this in proposed too.
Thanks to Robert Ancell as well for helping merge this (fixing some of my
mistakes).
Also, don't hesitate to nudge the nautilus people into reconsidering this:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=721968
This bug was fixed in the package nautilus - 1:3.8.2-0ubuntu11
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Wow - it's great to see this land in proposed at last! Many thanks to
Daniel, Sebastien, and everyone else who's helped make this happen.
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Importance: Undecided
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wonderfully and was a good example of how the same interface can be
usefull usefull for both power user and novice. Now that is completely
broken.
This is not a performance problem (tracker/no tracker), it is a
qualitative
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