[Bug 386150] Re: Nautilus file browser toolbar is complicated, redundant, and ugly

2009-06-21 Thread none
The stop button should not be removed without replacement. I like the way evolution displays its current actions and provides a button to abort each of them - in the status bar. That way, no (mostly greyed out) stop button is required in the toolbar, and current actions can be aborted right

[Bug 386150] Re: Nautilus file browser toolbar is complicated, redundant, and ugly

2009-06-21 Thread NaSH
well... i think it's a very bad idea. most user, on other os, use the navigation arrow.. remove them, mean annoying lots of new user on linux. i even use them very often, without thinking about it. And if you look how people use win95-vista, you'll see they use it everyday. So removing it is a

[Bug 386150] Re: Nautilus file browser toolbar is complicated, redundant, and ugly

2009-06-20 Thread fhein
I wish I could right-click the toolbar and select customize as you can in Firefox. I hate having to use the menus, or learn keyboard shortcuts, for functions I use frequently (show hidden files and show/hide side pane for example). I also like to switch between icon and list view (and preview,

[Bug 386150] Re: Nautilus file browser toolbar is complicated, redundant, and ugly

2009-06-20 Thread antistress
configurable toolbar (kind of) is work in progress in think http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=480379 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42834 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=480382 ** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #480379

[Bug 386150] Re: Nautilus file browser toolbar is complicated, redundant, and ugly

2009-06-20 Thread kikl
I think it's a great idea to have the file browser look like and work just like the standard internet browser. Simplifying and cleaning up the interface is a great idea. But, I do think you can make exceptions. The wording below the icons doesn't distract much and helps the absolute novice. You

[Bug 386150] Re: Nautilus file browser toolbar is complicated, redundant, and ugly

2009-06-20 Thread antistress
Wow i couldn't say better that kiki (comment 37) : it's a very well-balanced opinion It would also fix Bug #57210 having the search filed replacing the location bar doesn't look optimum to me -- Nautilus file browser toolbar is complicated, redundant, and ugly

[Bug 386150] Re: Nautilus file browser toolbar is complicated, redundant, and ugly

2009-06-20 Thread Nicolò Chieffo
Here's my proposal (mixing some of yours): 1. merge main and location toolbar 2. always show the directory toolbar (the one you have when you go to trash) and put some common tasks (new, copy, cut, paste, trash, change view) 3. optionally change the search button with a GtkEntry (you can also put

[Bug 386150] Re: Nautilus file browser toolbar is complicated, redundant, and ugly

2009-06-20 Thread antistress
Here are mines : 1. Place all shorcuts in sidebar (i.e. Computer) - no shorcuts in toolbar. 2. Don't replace the Location Bar with Search field it seems confusing to me (note that GTKFileChooser acts in a similar way but not exactly and i find GTKFileChooser to be less confusing than Nautilus i

[Bug 386150] Re: Nautilus file browser toolbar is complicated, redundant, and ugly

2009-06-20 Thread kikl
Well, if you ask me, this proposal is actually my preferred design: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/28077867/Nautilus_mockup_2-zoom_down.png File transfer on a desktop is a lot faster than over the internet. Most of the time, the stop and refresh buttons are not used, so I think they can be hidden

[Bug 386150] Re: Nautilus file browser toolbar is complicated, redundant, and ugly

2009-06-20 Thread Brian
I definitely agree the current Nautilus view is far too complicated. It should be pared down, and should take up less screen real estate. There should be one menu bar and one tool bar, that is it. Another row of chrome is acceptable to show tabs. Anything above this is guaranteed to be too much.

[Bug 386150] Re: Nautilus file browser toolbar is complicated, redundant, and ugly

2009-06-20 Thread antistress
considering my comment 40 i changed my mind finally it's logical to have the search field replacing the location bar since there is no location to display when doing a search (by definition) Therefore here are my suggestions : 1. fix Bug #57210 (already done!) 2. Let the Location bar distinct :

[Bug 386150] Re: Nautilus file browser toolbar is complicated, redundant, and ugly

2009-06-19 Thread seanh
I believe that Gnome's default for nautilus is spatial mode ;) -- Nautilus file browser toolbar is complicated, redundant, and ugly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/386150 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. --

[Bug 386150] Re: Nautilus file browser toolbar is complicated, redundant, and ugly

2009-06-19 Thread Laco Horváth
Basically i agree with you, but IMO is much easier simply to hide main toolbar. http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/5613/obrazovka.png -- Nautilus file browser toolbar is complicated, redundant, and ugly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/386150 You received this bug notification because you are a

[Bug 386150] Re: Nautilus file browser toolbar is complicated, redundant, and ugly

2009-06-19 Thread bruno.braga
Hi Michael, thanks for the info. Surprises me the fact I never noticed the option to change to tree view. I think this thread still goes other ways anyway, but for me, my problem is solved! :-) -- Nautilus file browser toolbar is complicated, redundant, and ugly

[Bug 386150] Re: Nautilus file browser toolbar is complicated, redundant, and ugly

2009-06-18 Thread Jänz
@bruno.braga: it does not ;) I would like to see tree view, too. It's faster and would, in a way, replace the location-bar-thingy, which imo is a bad compromise. -- Nautilus file browser toolbar is complicated, redundant, and ugly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/386150 You received this bug

[Bug 386150] Re: Nautilus file browser toolbar is complicated, redundant, and ugly

2009-06-18 Thread Michael Budde
@bruno.barga and Jänz: To me it sounds like the feature you are asking for is already implemented in Nautilus (see screenshot). ** Attachment added: Tree view in Nautilus http://launchpadlibrarian.net/28065832/Screenshot-home%20-%20File%20Browser.png -- Nautilus file browser toolbar is

[Bug 386150] Re: Nautilus file browser toolbar is complicated, redundant, and ugly

2009-06-18 Thread Jänz
ou, weird! thanks michael. O.o never used, but ever wanted :D however :D -- Nautilus file browser toolbar is complicated, redundant, and ugly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/386150 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. --

[Bug 386150] Re: Nautilus file browser toolbar is complicated, redundant, and ugly

2009-06-18 Thread ShawnJGoff
Buttons are too bulky for the breadcrumb. I'd prefer a different widget; something that made them all look like part something, but independent within. If anyone else shares the sentiment, I can make a mockup. The zoom buttons in the statusbar is a good choice, as is the right- aligned search

[Bug 386150] Re: Nautilus file browser toolbar is complicated, redundant, and ugly

2009-06-18 Thread Laco Gubík
Here is second mockup with zoom icons moved into statusbar. ** Attachment added: Nautilus_mockup_2-zoom_down.png http://launchpadlibrarian.net/28077867/Nautilus_mockup_2-zoom_down.png -- Nautilus file browser toolbar is complicated, redundant, and ugly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/386150

[Bug 386150] Re: Nautilus file browser toolbar is complicated, redundant, and ugly

2009-06-18 Thread Laco Gubík
Hi guys, I think that there should be option to create your own toolbar in Nautilus. Whatever we will put together will never 100% satisfy all users (especially power users) and at the end linux is also about choice. Evince and Eye of Gnome have this option (if you go to Edit - Toolbar) and I

[Bug 386150] Re: Nautilus file browser toolbar is complicated, redundant, and ugly

2009-06-17 Thread Photon
David's second mockup (http://launchpadlibrarian.net/27798051/simple_nautilus_2.png) looks very similar to Thunar interface to me (the file manager of Xfce). Everyone liking the mockup may want to take a look at the cap attached. ** Attachment added: cap taken from wikipedia

[Bug 386150] Re: Nautilus file browser toolbar is complicated, redundant, and ugly

2009-06-17 Thread Alan
i agress that something needs to be done with the default view of nautilus. on a 1280x800 laptop screen, the toolbars are taking up a lot of screen real estate. one other thing that i've noticed thunar has that nautilus doesn't is the used space of the viewed folder in the status bar. I was

[Bug 386150] Re: Nautilus file browser toolbar is complicated, redundant, and ugly

2009-06-17 Thread bruno.braga
That might sound stupid, but I kind of miss the tree view style to navigate into sub-folders, etc, without actually opening the folder itself. This is specially annoying if you have too many files in one single folder (such as logs, etc), which consumes machine resources even though you are

[Bug 386150] Re: Nautilus file browser toolbar is complicated, redundant, and ugly

2009-06-16 Thread Nicolò Chieffo
I would also like to discuss the possibility to add other buttons (cut copy past trash): in a filemanager they are useful, and it's really easy to add them (just edit nautilus-navigation-window-ui.xml) -- Nautilus file browser toolbar is complicated, redundant, and ugly

[Bug 386150] Re: Nautilus file browser toolbar is complicated, redundant, and ugly

2009-06-15 Thread Ubeer
2. What does the Stop button do? The stop button makes it possible to stop loading network/remote folders and folders with a lot of items: quite handy when you have to browse a lot on the local network. I like the mockups. To simplify things further, why not leave out the back and forward

[Bug 386150] Re: Nautilus file browser toolbar is complicated, redundant, and ugly

2009-06-15 Thread beefcurry
I like and use everything in the current nautilus tool bar, zoom, location bar, and like the large icons. The options are there if anyone wants to disable items, rather then change it (which I don't think is necessary) we should just make it so it can be edited with ease (like in epiphany).

[Bug 386150] Re: Nautilus file browser toolbar is complicated, redundant, and ugly

2009-06-15 Thread Sancho Panza
The tabbing functionality in Nautilus is something that I often use. But I always have to use Ctrl-T to open a new tab or click thru the menus to open a new tab. How about adding a new new tab button to the Nautilus toolbar which would open a new tabbed Nautilus window? -- Nautilus file

[Bug 386150] Re: Nautilus file browser toolbar is complicated, redundant, and ugly

2009-06-15 Thread Fabien Cortina
I remember seeing a mockup of Nautilus once (on planet.gnome.org) where the zoom and view controls where moved to the status bar. In place of these controls was a search field. It's a pretty good idea because it makes use of a mostly unused space to keep functionalities. (Maybe this was this

[Bug 386150] Re: Nautilus file browser toolbar is complicated, redundant, and ugly

2009-06-12 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Some comments there: - GNOME has a preference to display labels on toolbar or not, see the interface tab in the appareance capplet - changing all the button to don't display text doesn't seem the best move, you might want to change the default desktop option if you think that's really a good

[Bug 386150] Re: Nautilus file browser toolbar is complicated, redundant, and ugly

2009-06-12 Thread Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek
Why do back, forward, up, stop, etc. have text labels? They don't have text labels in Firefox. Firefox doesn't respect GNOME's toolbar settings. It's a great achievement that is uses GTK style and icons... -- Nautilus file browser toolbar is complicated, redundant, and ugly

[Bug 386150] Re: Nautilus file browser toolbar is complicated, redundant, and ugly

2009-06-12 Thread Wouter Stomp
I like the mockups. To simplify things further, why not leave out the back and forward button as well? The up button, the directories shown in the browser and the bread-crumb location bar make these a bit superfluous. -- Nautilus file browser toolbar is complicated, redundant, and ugly

[Bug 386150] Re: Nautilus file browser toolbar is complicated, redundant, and ugly

2009-06-12 Thread Daniele Napolitano
The right way (IMHO) is reduce from 2 toolbars to 1. About removing strings, just change the priority for Previus and Next items. -- Nautilus file browser toolbar is complicated, redundant, and ugly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/386150 You received this bug notification because you are a

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