[Bug 106621] Re: Gnome Trash doesn't show deleted files on ntfs-3g partitions

2008-10-10 Thread Sebastien Bacher
closing this bug it's obsolete now than gvfs is used in GNOME

** Changed in: gnome-vfs2 (Ubuntu)
   Status: Incomplete = Invalid

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[Bug 106621] Re: Gnome Trash doesn't show deleted files on ntfs-3g partitions

2008-05-05 Thread Szabolcs Szakacsits
 Could someone modify the ntfs-3g package so that the hack is directly
 implemented when the fstab is written?

Sadly we can not do anything in NTFS-3G because, as it was earlier 
explained and patches submitted, this is not an NTFS-3G bug but a Gnome 
one.  When it's possible we always workaround in bugs in applications but 
I'm sorry to say, we can't do it this time. 

We also think it's fairly unfortunate how Gnome works because it's not the 
behavior many Ubuntu users expect and they do keep losing files because 
of this.

Regards,  Szaka

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[Bug 106621] Re: Gnome Trash doesn't show deleted files on ntfs-3g partitions

2008-05-05 Thread Szabolcs Szakacsits
 why would users delete files exactly? when there is no trash 
 available nautilus display a dialog explaining that and ask for 
 confirmation to the users

By accident. Childen. Elder people. Users who think they can recover
from the Trash if they still change their mind.  Software bugs. Hung
then recovered X/OS/etc and when people desperately hitting/clicking 
everything to happen something during the temporary freeze time.
People in hurry. People in panic. Visually impaired people. And so on.

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[Bug 106621] Re: Gnome Trash doesn't show deleted files on ntfs-3g partitions

2008-05-05 Thread Sebastien Bacher
let's stop this discussion there, those comments are not constructive
there is no reason that software bugs should trigger there, the bug is
about user interactions, there is also no reason that people should not
be able to read the delete confirmation dialog if they know enough to
use a computer and gnome-vfs is not used in hardy by nautilus anyway

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[Bug 106621] Re: Gnome Trash doesn't show deleted files on ntfs-3g partitions

2008-05-04 Thread unggnu
It seems to be fixed in Hardy since files aren't moved to Trash anymore
on NTFS partitions and Gnome shows an extra warning.

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[Bug 106621] Re: Gnome Trash doesn't show deleted files on ntfs-3g partitions

2008-05-04 Thread Paulo Pontes
so, they fixed the bug eliminating the feature?

Is it a try to convince me to swith back to windows?

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Re: [Bug 106621] Re: Gnome Trash doesn't show deleted files on ntfs-3g partitions

2008-05-04 Thread Luke12
Well, they did not technically eliminate the feature...rather they 
implemented it in a different way. But for the end user you are right: 
unless you know what to do, you're pretty much stuck.
Could someone modify the ntfs-3g package so that the hack is directly 
implemented when the fstab is written?

Paulo Pontes ha scritto:
 so, they fixed the bug eliminating the feature?
 
 Is it a try to convince me to swith back to windows?


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[Bug 106621] Re: Gnome Trash doesn't show deleted files on ntfs-3g partitions

2008-05-04 Thread Sebastien Bacher
 Is it a try to convince me to swith back to windows?

you are welcome to use whatever os you want, such comments are not
really useful there though

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[Bug 106621] Re: Gnome Trash doesn't show deleted files on ntfs-3g partitions

2008-05-03 Thread Paulo Pontes
have the same issue here. My ntfs partition is my main data partition
(my work there is shared with my windows partition).

choosing file - empty trash in nautilus wont empty my ntfs trash

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[Bug 106621] Re: Gnome Trash doesn't show deleted files on ntfs-3g partitions

2007-12-27 Thread Aaron Whitehouse
I just deleted a file from a FAT32 partition and a couple of files from
an NTFS partition on Hardy Alpha 2, fully updated.

See the attached file - the file deleted from the FAT32 partition
(test.txt) displays if the Trash is clicked, but the icon for the trash
applet does not change and the files cannot be cleared by selecting
right-click Empty Trash (it is inactive). The files deleted from NTFS
have the same effect as the one deleted from the FAT32 partition, but
they do not even show when the Trash icon is clicked.

Should the description for this bug be changed to reflect that it
applies to more than just NTFS-3G, or do the problems with other
filesystems belong in separate bugs?

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[Bug 106621] Re: Gnome Trash doesn't show deleted files on ntfs-3g partitions

2007-12-02 Thread Yann Rouillard
Yes it is,  see https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-
vfs2/+bug/140968

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[Bug 106621] Re: Gnome Trash doesn't show deleted files on ntfs-3g partitions

2007-12-02 Thread Kay Parker
obviously there are patches.

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[Bug 106621] Re: Gnome Trash doesn't show deleted files on ntfs-3g partitions

2007-12-01 Thread Kay Parker
the conclusion: its a obviously a Gnome / Nautilus problem.

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[Bug 106621] Re: Gnome Trash doesn't show deleted files on ntfs-3g partitions

2007-11-30 Thread Kay Parker
Well, I tried it on a Gutsy with a FAT32 partition. It works fine. Since
I converted it to NTSF I can reproduce the bug.

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[Bug 106621] Re: Gnome Trash doesn't show deleted files on ntfs-3g partitions

2007-11-29 Thread Luke12
Same here. Gutsy 32 bits, files deleted in the NTFS partition do not
appear in the Trash. Can someone try this on Gutsy with a FAT32
partition? Do not have any here, so cannot tell whether the bug is valid
for that filesystem too.

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[Bug 106621] Re: Gnome Trash doesn't show deleted files on ntfs-3g partitions

2007-11-28 Thread Kay Parker
I'm under Gutsy and i CAN reproduce the bug.

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[Bug 106621] Re: Gnome Trash doesn't show deleted files on ntfs-3g partitions

2007-10-21 Thread Luca Cavalli
Yann,
I tested your gnome-vfs/nautilus packages from 
http://ppa.launchpad.net/yann-pleiades/ but sadly they don' t work as expected. 
When I login now there aren't any computer, home and trash folders on my 
desktop and deleting something from an NTFS volume now a warning appears 
telling me that the file can't be moved to trash, so it will be deleted.

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[Bug 106621] Re: Gnome Trash doesn't show deleted files on ntfs-3g partitions

2007-10-21 Thread Yann Rouillard
Luca: are you sure you used last gnome-vfs packages (~ppa4) ?

Because it seems you got the nautilus fix (nautilus now correctly
handles the fact that a filesystem doesn't support trash), but that NTFS
trash usage is not enabled and I've enabled it in the ~ppa4 gnomevfs
package.

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[Bug 106621] Re: Gnome Trash doesn't show deleted files on ntfs-3g partitions

2007-10-20 Thread unggnu
Gutsy is still not able to manage Trash-Folder on ntfs-3g/Fuse-Devices.
I think this is important.

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[Bug 106621] Re: Gnome Trash doesn't show deleted files on ntfs-3g partitions

2007-10-20 Thread Yann Rouillard
As unggnu commented in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-
vfs2/+bug/140968/comments/5 , this bug is a duplicate of
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-vfs2/+bug/140968 (or
rather it's the same origin behind these 2 bugs).

I don't think fuse is the problem as, from what I saw, the filesystem is
detected as ntfs in gnomevfs.

I explained the reason and gave patches in
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-
vfs2/+bug/140968/comments/4 and
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-
vfs2/+bug/140968/comments/3

I put fixed packages in my personal archive: http://ppa.launchpad.net
/yann-pleiades/. Tests are welcome.

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[Bug 106621] Re: Gnome Trash doesn't show deleted files on ntfs-3g partitions

2007-10-08 Thread phazei
I have  the same problem.

I just deleted an item on my ntfs partition.  I made a mistake and went
to find it but couldn't find it anywhere.  Finally i found this bug
report and found it in .Trash-$user on the ntfs partition.

Was not listed in normal trash at all.

Now that ntfs-3g is by defaul in gutsy, I would say it will be *very*
common.

I've no clue what reports I could post to assist.  If someone lets me
know, I'll try.

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[Bug 106621] Re: Gnome Trash doesn't show deleted files on ntfs-3g partitions

2007-10-01 Thread Yan Zheng
I have the same problem on Btrfs,

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[Bug 106621] Re: Gnome Trash doesn't show deleted files on ntfs-3g partitions

2007-09-29 Thread zittix
I don't know if I have to fill another bug for that but under Gutsy Beta
release, Files are shown if I open the trash, but the trayicon say that
there isn't any file in the trash although there are.

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[Bug 106621] Re: Gnome Trash doesn't show deleted files on ntfs-3g partitions

2007-09-19 Thread Patrice Vetsel
I'm under Gutsy uptodate and i can't reproduce your bug.
If i delete files on my usb stick (ntfs), when i open trash (left click on 
trash applet), my files are shown.

Can you confirm that when you do that, your deleted files are not shown
?

** Changed in: gnome-vfs2 (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed = Incomplete

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[Bug 106621] Re: Gnome Trash doesn't show deleted files on ntfs-3g partitions

2007-04-24 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: gnome-vfs (upstream)
   Status: Unconfirmed = Fix Released

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[Bug 106621] Re: Gnome Trash doesn't show deleted files on ntfs-3g partitions

2007-04-24 Thread Daniel Holbach
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=86561action=view was
committed upstream.

** Changed in: gnome-vfs2 (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 106621] Re: Gnome Trash doesn't show deleted files on ntfs-3g partitions

2007-04-24 Thread Szabolcs Szakacsits
I'm not sure the fix is correct, enough as I explained above. Or does it
work with the fuseblk, fuseblk.ntfs-3g and fuse.ntfs-3g file system
types too?

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[Bug 106621] Re: Gnome Trash doesn't show deleted files on ntfs-3g partitions

2007-04-24 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Would be nice to have some ntfs-3g upstream working with GNOME guys on
it, or could you explain what those things are, how to configure them,
etc?

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[Bug 106621] Re: Gnome Trash doesn't show deleted files on ntfs-3g partitions

2007-04-24 Thread Szabolcs Szakacsits
From NTFS-3G upstream: the issue is not NTFS-3G but FUSE specific. I explained 
it at 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-vfs2/+bug/106621/comments/12 
This should be enough for Gnome developers to make the changes to support all 
FUSE
file systems on all kernels. Thanks.

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[Bug 106621] Re: Gnome Trash doesn't show deleted files on ntfs-3g partitions

2007-04-24 Thread Sebastien Bacher
there is no 2.6.21 available to Ubuntu yet, look like something to work
on later then

** Changed in: gnome-vfs2 (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 106621] Re: Gnome Trash doesn't show deleted files on ntfs-3g partitions

2007-04-24 Thread Szabolcs Szakacsits
As https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-
vfs2/+bug/106621/comments/12 explained, kernel 2.6.20 introduced fuseblk
and that 's what for example ntfs-3g uses  mounting all internal and
external disks. Afaik, Ubuntu 7.04 uses kernel 2.6.20, so the problem is
not fixed.

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[Bug 106621] Re: Gnome Trash doesn't show deleted files on ntfs-3g partitions

2007-04-19 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: gnome-vfs (upstream)
   Status: Unknown = Unconfirmed

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[Bug 106621] Re: Gnome Trash doesn't show deleted files on ntfs-3g partitions

2007-04-18 Thread Sebastien Bacher
The mount type is a fuse one, there is a bug
upstream:http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=349622

** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #349622
   http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=349622

** Also affects: gnome-vfs (upstream) via
   http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=349622
   Importance: Unknown
   Status: Unknown

** Changed in: gnome-vfs2 (Ubuntu)
   Status: Unconfirmed = Confirmed

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[Bug 106621] Re: Gnome Trash doesn't show deleted files on ntfs-3g partitions

2007-04-18 Thread Szabolcs Szakacsits
Depending on the kernel version and other issues, the file system type
(fstype) can be: fuse, fuseblk, fuse.userfs and fuseblk.userfs,
where userfs is FUSE file system type, e.g. ntfs-3g.

The userfs sub part of the fstype should stay in the future but it's
not available yet in stable Linux kernels, only in Linus' development
tree. This FUSE feature was added recently to help the identification of
the user space fstype by e.g. mount helpers and make its detection
independent of FUSE's internal evolution, e.g. the introduction of the
new, additional fuseblk FUSE fstype which was required for safe block
devices support.

In fact I suspect that the real problem is that that only the fuse
fstype is supported, not yet the others. kernel 2.6.20 introduced
fuseblk and 2.6.21 wiwll introduce {fuse,fuseblk}.subfstype.

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[Bug 106621] Re: Gnome Trash doesn't show deleted files on ntfs-3g partitions

2007-04-16 Thread Sebastien Bacher
ntfs-3g is distributed to universe at the moment, it's not on the
default installation, that doesn't mean we don't want to get bug worked,
the desktop team is small though and already has lot to do, you or
upstream are welcome to contribute to get that corrected if you know
what to change though

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[Bug 106621] Re: Gnome Trash doesn't show deleted files on ntfs-3g partitions

2007-04-16 Thread Enola Gay
I think you are right and people can live with it until Gutsy if it is 
mentioned somewhere in Wiki. But could you please confirm the bug so it doesn't 
get lost or is it then a problem for Feisty release?
Anyway I guess that ntfs-3g would be main in Gutsy so it gets more important 
and btw. thanks for reopening.

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[Bug 106621] Re: Gnome Trash doesn't show deleted files on ntfs-3g partitions

2007-04-16 Thread Sebastien Bacher
no, I've no NTFS volume to test it and I don't know how to use ntfs-3g,
the bug should be confirmed by somebody getting it

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[Bug 106621] Re: Gnome Trash doesn't show deleted files on ntfs-3g partitions

2007-04-16 Thread Szabolcs Szakacsits
It's very simple to test, if one is familiar a bit with the command line. No 
need for existing NTFS or Windows:
http://ntfs-3g.org/quality.html#howtotest

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[Bug 106621] Re: Gnome Trash doesn't show deleted files on ntfs-3g partitions

2007-04-15 Thread Sebastien Bacher
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 32466 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/32466

Thanks for the bug report. This particular bug has already been
reported, but feel free to report any other bugs you find.

** Changed in: gnome-applets (Ubuntu)
Sourcepackagename: trashapplet = gnome-applets
   Importance: Undecided = Low
 Assignee: (unassigned) = Ubuntu Desktop Bugs
   Status: Unconfirmed = Rejected

** This bug has been marked a duplicate of bug 32466
   External disk trash not shown by trash applet

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[Bug 106621] Re: Gnome Trash doesn't show deleted files on ntfs-3g partitions

2007-04-15 Thread Enola Gay
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 32466 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/32466

No, this bug hasn't already reported at least in the duplicate bug. On
ntfs-3g partitions the files aren't shown at all even if you open the
trash manual. The other one (External disk trash not shown by trash
applet) is a gui bug  but this one seems to be deeper. I guess that
Gnome doesn't expect writing support for ntfs but I don't know. Please
reopen it or at least check it with an ntfs-3g partition.

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[Bug 106621] Re: Gnome Trash doesn't show deleted files on ntfs-3g partitions

2007-04-15 Thread Christoph von Krüchten
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 32466 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/32466

This doesn't seem to be a duplicate of bug #32466. There, the files can
be found in trash:// - this is not the case here.

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[Bug 106621] Re: Gnome Trash doesn't show deleted files on ntfs-3g partitions

2007-04-15 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Reopening then. The desktop team is overworked at the moment though and
ntfs-3g is not current so it bug is low importance

** This bug is no longer a duplicate of bug 32466
   External disk trash not shown by trash applet

** Changed in: gnome-vfs2 (Ubuntu)
Sourcepackagename: gnome-applets = gnome-vfs2
   Status: Rejected = Unconfirmed

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[Bug 106621] Re: Gnome Trash doesn't show deleted files on ntfs-3g partitions

2007-04-15 Thread Sebastien Bacher
ntfs-3g is not common

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[Bug 106621] Re: Gnome Trash doesn't show deleted files on ntfs-3g partitions

2007-04-15 Thread Szaka
I don't know what exactly you mean by not common but ntfs-3g upstream
is buried by all short of Ubuntu specific bug reports for quite long
time. If NTFS support is a low priority for Ubuntu then would you please
make an official statement somewhere we could point people, so they
won't have false expectations. Thank you.

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