[Bug 10838] Re: Emblems should have tooltips
The dialog which has the issue got deprecated in GNOME3 in Oneiric, closing the bug ** Changed in: nautilus (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged = Invalid -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/10838 Title: Emblems should have tooltips To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/10838/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 10838] Re: Emblems should have tooltips
** Changed in: nautilus Status: Confirmed = Expired -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/10838 Title: Emblems should have tooltips -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 10838] Re: Emblems should have tooltips
** Changed in: nautilus Importance: Unknown = Wishlist -- Emblems should have tooltips https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/10838 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 10838] Re: Emblems should have tooltips
Marking as triaged since we have an upstream bug. ** Changed in: nautilus (Ubuntu) Status: Incomplete = Triaged -- Emblems should have tooltips https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/10838 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 10838] Re: Emblems should have tooltips
david, why is this marked Fix Released? It does not appear fixed in Karmic. ** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Status: Fix Released = Incomplete -- Emblems should have tooltips https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/10838 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 10838] Re: Emblems should have tooltips
This bug was initially marked invalid. ** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Status: Incomplete = Invalid -- Emblems should have tooltips https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/10838 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 10838] Re: Emblems should have tooltips
fix error ** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Status: Invalid = New ** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Status: New = Fix Released ** Changed in: nautilus (Ubuntu) Status: Invalid = Incomplete ** Changed in: nautilus Status: Confirmed = Invalid ** Changed in: nautilus Status: Invalid = Confirmed -- Emblems should have tooltips https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/10838 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 10838] Re: Emblems should have tooltips
My really long reply just got deleted because of the lost connection... Summary: We don't want tooltips whatsoever, to avoid the spiral: bad icon bad emblem we need a tooltip! Let's rather fix the icons. Marking the bug invalid. ** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Status: Confirmed = Invalid ** Changed in: nautilus (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged = Invalid -- Emblems should have tooltips https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/10838 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 10838] Re: Emblems should have tooltips
I think this is quite a sad approach to this. There's a *huge* wealth of information nautilus can display and can use emblems for. Saying we need the icons to be more inutitive is good. But saying Better icons negates the need for tooltips is just plain wrong. Many people have minds like mine. My mind works with words not with pictures. I actually find iconic picture-rich displays to be hard to understand unless I can get periodic reminders of what the images mean by hovering my mouse over them to get useful textual feedback. Unfortunately many people are firm believers of the false adage that it's inituitive once you're used to it (sic) which has seemed to pervade the Gnome UI principles for quite some time. -- Emblems should have tooltips https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/10838 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 10838] Re: Emblems should have tooltips
Just as a question which, hopefully, ought to highlight the difficulty of making better icons which would negate the need for tooltips... How will you represent the information This file is under revision control and has been locally modified but not added staged for commit? This is a reasonable state for a file to be in if it is under git revision control. Also, after you've come up with an answer for your particular pet locale, try again to make an icon which is pan-culturally similarly intuitive. Nautilus currently has sixteen icons which a person can, by hand, add to their icons. I can barely remember the icons for the time it takes me to glance back to this browser window. Yes the icons are poor, but that's not all the issue at hand. If icons should always be perfect, then the logical conclusion would be to remove all toolbar modes but icons only and fix the icons -- most people would spend a lot of time hovering their mouse over the toolbar icons to try and learn what the icons mean, by using the helpful (and fortunately generally present) tooltips. Remember, this is not a request to replace information, currently represented by icons, by text; but rather a request to make the icons discoverable. Discoverability ought to be a goal of any desktop environment, but particularly Ubuntu which keeps touting Linux For Human Beings. If it helps hammer the point home, consider point 3 of the Ubuntu philosophy: Every computer user should be given every opportunity to use software, even if they work under a disability. If Ubuntu has a visually rich, information dense, iconic display, then my own inability to think in pictures or spatially should count as a disability under that point, and you should be striving to ensure that people like me can discover the meanings in the UI and thus become productive with the software. -- Emblems should have tooltips https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/10838 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 10838] Re: Emblems should have tooltips
Would the design team recommend having tooltip for any emblem or only a selected set of standard ones? Could you suggest which ones and the tooltip to be used? -- Emblems should have tooltips https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/10838 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 10838] Re: Emblems should have tooltips
No tooltips are necessary for current Human emblems, because they suck badly. Tango or Gnome icon theme emlems are clearly recognizable and they also don't need no tooltips. Ubuntu needs new emblems, and maybe even a new, refined icon theme like beautiful 'Erectus' theme is. http ://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Erectus?content=100254 and not some lame tooltips.. -- Emblems should have tooltips https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/10838 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 10838] Re: Emblems should have tooltips
** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Importance: Undecided = Low ** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Status: New = Confirmed -- Emblems should have tooltips https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/10838 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 10838] Re: Emblems should have tooltips
** Also affects: hundredpapercuts Importance: Undecided Status: New -- Emblems should have tooltips https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/10838 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 10838] Re: Emblems should have tooltips
** Changed in: nautilus (Ubuntu) Importance: Medium = Wishlist Assignee: Sebastien Bacher (seb128) = Ubuntu Desktop Bugs (desktop-bugs) Status: Confirmed = Triaged -- Emblems should have tooltips https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/10838 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 10838] Re: Emblems should have tooltips
** Changed in: nautilus (upstream) Status: Unconfirmed = Confirmed -- Emblems should have tooltips https://launchpad.net/bugs/10838 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 10838] Re: Emblems should have tooltips
** Changed in: nautilus (Ubuntu) Status: Unconfirmed = Confirmed -- Emblems should have tooltips https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/10838 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
