I like screenshot 2, but it needs more work to make it simpler. The
music icon si good, but the others are too complicated, given that the
detail is so small.
Desktop: 2 bars is too much detail. What was wrong with the four arrows design?
Documents: OK, but a bit too small. Maybe an A to indicate
You're doing it wrong.
Look http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c0/Leopard_Desktop.png
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Noone is doing wrong, since the design is not yet started
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i'd really like something that would like
https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/388570/comments/1
Please keep the folder picture as basis for xdg-user-dirs icons and add an item
that would mean video/picture/document etc.
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Okay, but your mockups are bad (I hope you do not take any offense, because its
a great idea!).
screenshot 1 - you use emblems. emblems should be attached to files/folders,
not used as folders.
screenshot 2 - you use the file icons from mime type, that is very confusing.
screenshot 3 - you're on
The mockups that I've proposed were only a temporary solution. now
that the patch is accepted into glib we should draw complete icons:
as I suggested, reporting from what developer say in the upstream bug,
the icons should not use emblems, but should be designed as the
user-desktop icon, or
I do really agree with Nicolò.
That feature should not reduce the immediate impression that Music or
Video are folders, not apps nor files.
* Full-size emblems w/o folder: seem to be something else (application?)
* Mimetypes: are really misleading, as they only represent a file
* Emblems: the
I've seen some users saying that they now have icons in nautilus.
Did someone commit a change to the icon theme, adding folder-foo?
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First, this is a very nice and colorful but eyefriendly theme, Nicolo. ;)
This should be the default theme of ubuntu.
Second, i like your opinion and this were really neutral and not persistent
icons, if the emblems are embedded in the folder-icon (like your home-icon).
i looks not persistent
Looks like this is well on its way to being fixed. Ken, will you keep an
eye on this one in case it needs anything from DUX?
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Remember that the patch in glib is NOT the one with emblems (that is
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The first thing we would need is icons for all the places...the emblems
don't fit (and would look even worse when you try to put an emblem on
them).
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Yes, in my opinion they should look like user-home folder
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the GLIB part is fixed (in the sense that now the only thing that's
missing is icons)
interested people can follow here:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/387969
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Note I didn't use emblem-foo, I preferred other icons (the most taken
from mimetypes) because they have more colors: emblems are just white
and orange. Do you want to see a screenshot with classic emblems?
I'm not so sure of the Public icon... comments?
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Currently there are 3 missing emblems from the standard icon naming spec :
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- video (or multimedia)
- new
I don't know if it's a good idea to use standard emblems, unless someone
will manage to add them into the official naming spec.
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Do you prefer this?
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No, they should look like folders, not like any other 'object'. The only
good way to do this, is to do new icons like the folder-home icon. It
will take more time, but I don't think we are in a hurry to change these
icons...
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I'm not in a hurry. But if you don't have time, can you point me to a
simple guide on how to draw svg icons?
If it's not too hard I can try
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Download inkscape, open up an icon of the folder in it. Then open up one of
these icons, copy, drag it over (or import or open, don't remember which),
do a bit of alignment and resizing, and you should be good to go :)
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having folders with those icons looks weird, emblems are suppoed to be
used on the side of an icon not to replace it
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Anyway, upstream doesn't want emblems, so they replaced home and
desktop with full icons.
I agree with them, especially because it's not possible to see an
emblem in a 16x16 icon (for instance the panel or gtk file chooser)
I won't paste emblems inside the folder icon, I will try to propose
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This patch is using emblems. No additional work is required. This could
be the final papercut patch.
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screenshot with emblems. do you like it?
Note I've emblemed also the desktop (and home), to have a more coherent design.
If you prefer I can keep it as the normal icon
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I like it.
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Looks promising.
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To hundred paper cuts:
I know this could be considered as a feature, but this patch works, and has no
problems. the only part to do is to dray icons. I've requested them also
upstream to gnome-icon-theme.
Also my request was forwarded to the breathe icon theme from the ubuntu
community.
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this can be considered a papercut in my opinion, since waiting for someone (not
you papercutters) to release new icons, the following can be used:
Documents - document.svg / emblem-documents.svg
Music - sound.svg / emblem-sound.svg
Pictures - image.svg / emblem-pictures.svg
Videos - video.svg /
We may want to reconsider this as a paper cut, albeit a bit of a larger
one. Let's leave it New in hundredpapercuts for now.
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Papercut patch (screenshot soon)
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It doesn't look bad, does it?
I need to edit the patch a bit to have fallback icons.
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Not sure if using nautilus emblems (as it looks like) as icons is a great
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Ok I will do other proposals. Would you prefer a folder with emblems?
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I would say that is best, yes.
Because a) that's how emblems are designed to use, b) they aren't meant to
be full-scale icons, so won't fit in with the other iconsets so much
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I don't like emblems, because if the icon is small they won't be shown
(gnome panel for instance)
upstream doesn't want emblems either.
for isntance see the desktop icon and the home icon, thet used to have
emblems, but now they were redesigned completely.
I can't find a way to set a fallback
No afraid I've never implemented icons like that, was just looking into it a
few days ago but then the need for it dropped. I'd say ask in #gtk
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Upstream wants to use separate icons (no emblems) so I asked to the icon
naming spec guru, and he told that the icon names should be folder-foo
So this is the new patch.
Anyway upstream seems really not so interested on giving different icons for
xdg directories...
Is canonical interested?
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This debdiff adds the required support. Now GIO supports emblemed icons, so no
new icon must be designed!!!
Before applying this debdiff we need a patch to nautilus too.
Which is here:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/328743
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This is a patch to GIO, which selects some icons (missing from the icon theme
of course new icons should be designed).
The patch to GIO makes nautilus pick up the correct icon.
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