[Bug 145418] Re: gnome panel icons don't show up

2008-05-13 Thread Sebastien Bacher
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 67332 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67332

there is also bug #67332 about the topic, not a trivial case, doing a
copy can be useful because otherwise you could not edit the launcher,
the best option could be to make gnome-panel display a clear error about
the launcher having being deleted mentioning the location so it would be
clear to the user why the launcher is not there

** This bug has been marked a duplicate of bug 67332
   DragDrop Application-Starter gets lost on restart

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[Bug 145418] Re: gnome panel icons don't show up

2008-05-13 Thread Eugenia Loli-Queru
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 67332 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67332

I discussed the issue over a romantic dinner with my husband last night
(he is a Google Android engineer, but he has desktop experience as he
was one of Be, Inc.'s BeOS engineers back in the day). ;-)

So, we came up with three possible solutions:
1. Involve the package manager in it and create new icon shortcuts only by 
using the canonical name of each link.
2. Special-case this specific case and so when someone is dragging from the 
desktop to the panel, always symlink against the actual file instead of the 
symlink.
3. Try to solve the root of my usability problem. You see, the reason I was 
dragging first to the desktop and then to the panel, was because when I was 
opening the gnome menus  to drag an application shortcut out, the menus were 
hiding/overlapping the place I wanted to drag to. So I had no alternative but 
to first drag to the desktop and then back to the panel. You can fix this by 
not allowing the gnome menus render on top of the panel. However, while this 
will fix my specific usability case, it won't fix the case of someone having a 
Firefox shortcut on his desktop for a few months, and then suddenly decide to 
move all his shortcuts to the panel and delete the ones on his desktop (there 
are many users who change their habits regarding icons overtime, you see).

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[Bug 145418] Re: gnome panel icons don't show up

2008-05-13 Thread Sebastien Bacher
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 67332 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67332

1. what do you mean exactly? just using the desktop filename? how would you 
figure in what directory it's stored then and if an user modified version or 
the system one should be used?
2. when you dnd from the desktop to gnome-panel the actual file is the desktop 
one
3. the menu should not overlap the gnome-panel bars, you should open a bug 
about that

when doing a dnd from the gnome-panel to the desktop you want to do a
copy so the user can edit the launcher, when doing a dnd to the gnome-
panel you want to point to the launcher so changes are reflected

the easier way there would probably to do a copy but update it
dynamically when the launcher change or to have a clear error messages
about the issue when using use a launcher not available

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[Bug 145418] Re: gnome panel icons don't show up

2008-05-13 Thread Eugenia Loli-Queru
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 67332 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67332

1. This method would require the package manager's apps to be the only 
installed apps.
2. Yes, but what I am saying is, is to special case this, and instead link the 
panel icon to the final destination file and not to the shortcut on the desktop.
3. The sub-menus, that include the applications that I want to DnD, *do* 
overlap and render on top of the gnome panel. The menus don't, but the 
sub-menus do. Do you still want me to open a open a new bug for that?

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[Bug 145418] Re: gnome panel icons don't show up

2008-05-13 Thread Sebastien Bacher
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 67332 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67332

could you describe the layout you are using and the options to get the
submenu overlaping? they should be drawed where is some empty space but
there might be some bugs in specific configurations

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[Bug 145418] Re: gnome panel icons don't show up

2008-05-13 Thread Eugenia Loli-Queru
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 67332 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67332

Image uploaded showing the overlap.

** Attachment added: overlap.jpg
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/14507370/overlap.jpg

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[Bug 145418] Re: gnome panel icons don't show up

2008-05-12 Thread Sebastien Bacher
do you remove the desktop launcher after doing a dnd to gnome-panel? the
gnome-panel configuration points to the source you dnd, when you use the
menu that's the system .desktop, when you do it from the desktop it
copies this uri, if you remove the desktop there then the icon will be
broken, the behaviour is non intuitive, not sure how what to change
there though

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[Bug 145418] Re: gnome panel icons don't show up

2008-05-12 Thread Eugenia Loli-Queru
Yes, I remove the link from the desktop after I have DnD it to the
panel. I see the problem now. Yes, this is not very intuitive. Maybe the
solution is for the behavior to remain as is when dragging real files on
the desktop that you later delete, but when you drag an actual shortcut
icon, then the icon on the panel should stay put, as it should link to
the original file and not the shortcut. What do you think?

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[Bug 145418] Re: gnome panel icons don't show up

2008-05-11 Thread Sebastien Bacher
when you do that is the launcher correctly displayed and working before
restarting the session?

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[Bug 145418] Re: gnome panel icons don't show up

2008-05-11 Thread Eugenia Loli-Queru
Yes. There are other icons that ubuntu placed there that work fine
before and after the login process. It also works properly if I directly
drag an application icon from the gnome menus to the panel. But as I
explained, it doesn't work properly if I drag an application entry from
the gnome menus to the desktop, and from the desktop to the panel. This
chain of events make the icon to disappear in the panel after I relogin.

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[Bug 145418] Re: gnome panel icons don't show up

2008-05-10 Thread Eugenia Loli-Queru
Yes, I was able to reproduce the same bug with Hardy as well. I first
drag the Firefox icon on the desktop from its gnome menu. Then, I drag
it from the desktop to the gnome panel. It's there. I log out. I log in.
It has disappeared.

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[Bug 145418] Re: gnome panel icons don't show up

2008-05-08 Thread Sebastien Bacher
do you still get the issue in hardy?

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[Bug 145418] Re: gnome panel icons don't show up

2007-09-27 Thread Pedro Villavicencio
Thanks for your report, I cannot reproduce this behavior, that works
fine in my desktop with Gutsy, which version of Ubuntu are you running?.

** Changed in: gnome-panel (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided = Low
 Assignee: (unassigned) = Ubuntu Desktop Bugs (desktop-bugs)
   Status: New = Incomplete

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[Bug 145418] Re: gnome panel icons don't show up

2007-09-27 Thread Eugenia Loli-Queru
I run the latest Gutsy Gibbon. Please note that you have to create NEW
users to reproduce this bug, not on your own old user account.

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[Bug 145418] Re: gnome panel icons don't show up

2007-09-27 Thread Pedro Villavicencio
There's no need to use capitals letters. I've tried with 2 new users and
works fine, not confirming.

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[Bug 145418] Re: gnome panel icons don't show up

2007-09-27 Thread Eugenia Loli-Queru
Well then, I guess I will have to get a video of it all and upload it.

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[Bug 145418] Re: gnome panel icons don't show up

2007-09-27 Thread Sebastien Bacher
No need to get a video your description is clear. The bug doesn't happen
on my gutsy installation. Does it happen with this launcher only? Does
it happen if you dnd directly from the menu to the panel? Does the
distance to the other icons make a difference?

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[Bug 145418] Re: gnome panel icons don't show up

2007-09-27 Thread Eugenia Loli-Queru
The distance does not matter. What does matter if you first DND the icon
to the desktop and then get that desktop icon from the desktop and DND
it to the panel. But if you DND it directly from the menu, it does work
and it remembers it. But it doesn't work from the menu-desktop-panel.

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