[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
I use the attached script to increase the window borders to 4 pixels in ubuntu-2D and gnome-fallback. It must be placed in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/ and works in precise by writing configuration files in the directory $HOME/.themes of the current user. ** Attachment added: 50_light-themes-borders https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/metacity/+bug/160311/+attachment/3508550/+files/50_light-themes-borders -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
It seems that the attachment was not included in the previous message. ** Attachment added: Increase light themeswindows borders https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/metacity/+bug/160311/+attachment/3508551/+files/50_light-themes-borders -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
2013/1/31 Sam Spilsbury smspil...@gmail.com On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 6:08 AM, OpenLaptop i...@openlaptop.nl wrote: Funny to see this bug is still not fixed sinds 2007 (6 YEARS AGO!!!) Hi. 1. It is fixed in Unity-3D, which has been the default since 12.10 No it's not. I'm using Unity-3D, which is also the default in 12.04, and borders aren't equal when it comes to resizing. It's almost imposible for me to grab top and left borders, while bottom and right are pretty easy to grab. I'd say there's at least a 3-4 pixels difference between the two cases. And no, it's not funny seeing how a basic usability like this is not being properly addressed after six years. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
On 31/01/2013 8:51 AM, Aleve Sicofante asicofa...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/1/31 Sam Spilsbury smspil...@gmail.com On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 6:08 AM, OpenLaptop i...@openlaptop.nl wrote: Funny to see this bug is still not fixed sinds 2007 (6 YEARS AGO!!!) Hi. 1. It is fixed in Unity-3D, which has been the default since 12.10 No it's not. I'm using Unity-3D, which is also the default in 12.04, and borders aren't equal when it comes to resizing. It's almost imposible for me to grab top and left borders, while bottom and right are pretty easy to grab. I'd say there's at least a 3-4 pixels difference between the two cases. Code-wise its exactly the same for the right, left and bottom borders. The top border doesn't have the padding as it already has a grab area on the titlebar. And no, it's not funny seeing how a basic usability like this is not being properly addressed after six years. -- You received this bug notification because you are a bug assignee. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Fix Released Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress Status in Release Notes for Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in Unity 2D: Confirmed Status in “light-themes” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “metacity” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in “metacity” source package in Maverick: Triaged Bug description: This bug is fixed in unity-3d since ubuntu 11.04. It still exists in unity-2d and will never be fixed as unity-2d is no longer supported since ubuntu 12.10 (see comment #343). * This should mostly be fixed for Natty and might get backported to earlier releases as well. For Precise (12.04) this is again broken for unity-2d (as of 17.7.2012 unity-2d 5.12.0-0ubuntu1.1). Note that if the window has a scrollbar, you can grab that to resize the window. If not, you are stuck with the 1px border. Workaround: NONE KNOWN (see comment 320)? * *Blueprint for Natty, Ubuntu 11.04: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection- dx-n-resizing-windows Work items1 * Make sure the new resize grip fits in current applications; doesn't interfere with anything. We should make some noise about this during the Natty cycle so people keep their eyes open and file bugs. 2 * Invisible window resize area - around 3px invisible area to allow resize on all sides. * Working grip backported to gtk2 already available in ppa : https://launchpad.net/~bratsche/+archive/gtk * Workaround for Compiz/Unity: Alt+Middlemousebutton resizes a window most comfortably. Workaround: Edit /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity- theme-1.xml. Set the following values in frame_geometry_normal as desired: distance name=left_width value=3/ distance name=right_width value=3/ distance name=bottom_height value=3/ Binary package hint: metacity - The issue has been an issue for users (especially of large) screens for several releases- Trackpad users seem to be particularly impacted by this- The issue appears to have been significantly aggravated in Lucid by changing the border width from 3 pixels to 1 pixel The window borders in metacity are far too thin to be used for comfortable window resizing, and resize handles are not available in all applications (or even most). In fact, of all the windows I have open right now, not a single one of them has a resize handle. The result is that I get a lot of misses when I try to drag a window border, which usually results in my clicking on the wrong window altogether. The best fix for this usability bug is to create an invisible region around each non-maximized window about 4px thick that can be used for resizing (in addition to the visible border). Or perhaps there should be a border thickness option on the System Preferences Windows dialog (although the default thickness should still be increased considerably). Ideally all windows would also have a resize handle but I realize that these have to be application controlled (at least that seems to be the position of the metacity team). To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com
Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
2013/1/31 Sam Spilsbury smspil...@gmail.com On 31/01/2013 8:51 AM, Aleve Sicofante asicofa...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/1/31 Sam Spilsbury smspil...@gmail.com On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 6:08 AM, OpenLaptop i...@openlaptop.nl wrote: Funny to see this bug is still not fixed sinds 2007 (6 YEARS AGO!!!) Hi. 1. It is fixed in Unity-3D, which has been the default since 12.10 No it's not. I'm using Unity-3D, which is also the default in 12.04, and borders aren't equal when it comes to resizing. It's almost imposible for me to grab top and left borders, while bottom and right are pretty easy to grab. I'd say there's at least a 3-4 pixels difference between the two cases. Code-wise its exactly the same for the right, left and bottom borders. The top border doesn't have the padding as it already has a grab area on the titlebar. That's why we call it a bug: probably you see the code being correct, but since the behavior isn't, there's something going on and it must be fixed. The grab area in the titlebar has nothing to do with the resizing area (or shouldn't). -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
** No longer affects: metacity (Ubuntu Maverick) ** No longer affects: metacity (Ubuntu) ** Changed in: unity-2d Status: Confirmed = Invalid -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
Funny to see this bug is still not fixed sinds 2007 (6 YEARS AGO!!!) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 6:08 AM, OpenLaptop i...@openlaptop.nl wrote: Funny to see this bug is still not fixed sinds 2007 (6 YEARS AGO!!!) Hi. 1. It is fixed in Unity-3D, which has been the default since 12.10 2. It isn't worth fixing in Unity-2D, since it would require extensive patching to metacity's frame display code 3. Comments like these are not helpful. -- You received this bug notification because you are a bug assignee. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Fix Released Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress Status in Release Notes for Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in Unity 2D: Confirmed Status in “light-themes” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “metacity” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in “metacity” source package in Maverick: Triaged Bug description: * This should mostly be fixed for Natty and might get backported to earlier releases as well. For Precise (12.04) this is again broken for unity-2d (as of 17.7.2012 unity-2d 5.12.0-0ubuntu1.1). Note that if the window has a scrollbar, you can grab that to resize the window. If not, you are stuck with the 1px border. Workaround: NONE KNOWN (see comment 320)? * *Blueprint for Natty, Ubuntu 11.04: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection- dx-n-resizing-windows Work items1 * Make sure the new resize grip fits in current applications; doesn't interfere with anything. We should make some noise about this during the Natty cycle so people keep their eyes open and file bugs. 2 * Invisible window resize area - around 3px invisible area to allow resize on all sides. * Working grip backported to gtk2 already available in ppa : https://launchpad.net/~bratsche/+archive/gtk * Workaround for Compiz/Unity: Alt+Middlemousebutton resizes a window most comfortably. Workaround: Edit /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity- theme-1.xml. Set the following values in frame_geometry_normal as desired: distance name=left_width value=3/ distance name=right_width value=3/ distance name=bottom_height value=3/ Binary package hint: metacity - The issue has been an issue for users (especially of large) screens for several releases- Trackpad users seem to be particularly impacted by this- The issue appears to have been significantly aggravated in Lucid by changing the border width from 3 pixels to 1 pixel The window borders in metacity are far too thin to be used for comfortable window resizing, and resize handles are not available in all applications (or even most). In fact, of all the windows I have open right now, not a single one of them has a resize handle. The result is that I get a lot of misses when I try to drag a window border, which usually results in my clicking on the wrong window altogether. The best fix for this usability bug is to create an invisible region around each non-maximized window about 4px thick that can be used for resizing (in addition to the visible border). Or perhaps there should be a border thickness option on the System Preferences Windows dialog (although the default thickness should still be increased considerably). Ideally all windows would also have a resize handle but I realize that these have to be application controlled (at least that seems to be the position of the metacity team). To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- Sam Spilsbury -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
I wonder who ever decided to have the window borders not configurable. I work on a large screen and easily get RSI problems when I use the mouse too much. Thus I use a wacom tablet with a stylus pen additionally as a mouse enhancement. I always work with multiple windows and frequently rearrange them to suite my needs. I also use focus follows mouse WITHOUT autoraise as I want to be able to cut and paste from a lower window to a top window without windows changing their order. I also want to type in a terminal which is half covered from firefox withouth the terminal coming to top and burying the browser text. That said I want to resize my windows at ANY border not just in the corners or from the title bar. On KDE 2 which I used for years this was no problem but with latest desktops the ergonomics seem to be overruled by designers. I wish every GUI designer be at least 50 years of age so that eyesight degrading and parkinsons symptoms are on the verge :( -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
Hi. On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 3:21 PM, latimerio 160...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: That said I want to resize my windows at ANY border not just in the corners or from the title bar. You already can. There's a small amount of invisible padding on every side of the window in Unity3D. This has been the only desktop installed since 12.10, and is the default desktop since 11.04. Click and drag around the edges to resize the window. Done. -- Sam Spilsbury -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
** Description changed: + This bug is fixed in unity-3d since ubuntu 11.04. + It still exists in unity-2d and will never be fixed as unity-2d is no longer supported since ubuntu 12.10 (see comment #343). + * This should mostly be fixed for Natty and might get backported to earlier releases as well. For Precise (12.04) this is again broken for unity-2d (as of 17.7.2012 unity-2d 5.12.0-0ubuntu1.1). Note that if the window has a scrollbar, you can grab that to resize the window. If not, you are stuck with the 1px border. Workaround: NONE KNOWN (see comment 320)? * *Blueprint for Natty, Ubuntu 11.04: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection-dx-n -resizing-windows Work items1 * Make sure the new resize grip fits in current applications; doesn't interfere with anything. We should make some noise about this during the Natty cycle so people keep their eyes open and file bugs. 2 * Invisible window resize area - around 3px invisible area to allow resize on all sides. * Working grip backported to gtk2 already available in ppa : https://launchpad.net/~bratsche/+archive/gtk * Workaround for Compiz/Unity: Alt+Middlemousebutton resizes a window most comfortably. Workaround: Edit /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity- theme-1.xml. Set the following values in frame_geometry_normal as desired: distance name=left_width value=3/ distance name=right_width value=3/ distance name=bottom_height value=3/ Binary package hint: metacity - The issue has been an issue for users (especially of large) screens for several releases- Trackpad users seem to be particularly impacted by this- The issue appears to have been significantly aggravated in Lucid by changing the border width from 3 pixels to 1 pixel The window borders in metacity are far too thin to be used for comfortable window resizing, and resize handles are not available in all applications (or even most). In fact, of all the windows I have open right now, not a single one of them has a resize handle. The result is that I get a lot of misses when I try to drag a window border, which usually results in my clicking on the wrong window altogether. The best fix for this usability bug is to create an invisible region around each non-maximized window about 4px thick that can be used for resizing (in addition to the visible border). Or perhaps there should be a border thickness option on the System Preferences Windows dialog (although the default thickness should still be increased considerably). Ideally all windows would also have a resize handle but I realize that these have to be application controlled (at least that seems to be the position of the metacity team). -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
** No longer affects: human-gtk-theme (Ubuntu) ** No longer affects: human-gtk-theme (Ubuntu Maverick) ** No longer affects: light-themes (Ubuntu Maverick) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
** Description changed: * This should mostly be fixed for Natty and might get backported to earlier releases as well. For Precise (12.04) this is again broken for unity-2d (as of 17.7.2012 unity-2d 5.12.0-0ubuntu1.1). Note that if the window has a scrollbar, you can grab that to resize the window. If not, you are stuck with the 1px border. Workaround: NONE KNOWN (see comment 320)? * *Blueprint for Natty, Ubuntu 11.04: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection-dx-n -resizing-windows Work items1 * Make sure the new resize grip fits in current applications; doesn't interfere with anything. We should make some noise about this during the Natty cycle so people keep their eyes open and file bugs. 2 * Invisible window resize area - around 3px invisible area to allow resize on all sides. * Working grip backported to gtk2 already available in ppa : https://launchpad.net/~bratsche/+archive/gtk * + + Workaround for Compiz/Unity: Alt+Middlemousebutton resizes a window most + comfortably. Workaround: Edit /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity- theme-1.xml. Set the following values in frame_geometry_normal as desired: distance name=left_width value=3/ distance name=right_width value=3/ distance name=bottom_height value=3/ Binary package hint: metacity - The issue has been an issue for users (especially of large) screens for several releases- Trackpad users seem to be particularly impacted by this- The issue appears to have been significantly aggravated in Lucid by changing the border width from 3 pixels to 1 pixel The window borders in metacity are far too thin to be used for comfortable window resizing, and resize handles are not available in all applications (or even most). In fact, of all the windows I have open right now, not a single one of them has a resize handle. The result is that I get a lot of misses when I try to drag a window border, which usually results in my clicking on the wrong window altogether. The best fix for this usability bug is to create an invisible region around each non-maximized window about 4px thick that can be used for resizing (in addition to the visible border). Or perhaps there should be a border thickness option on the System Preferences Windows dialog (although the default thickness should still be increased considerably). Ideally all windows would also have a resize handle but I realize that these have to be application controlled (at least that seems to be the position of the metacity team). -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
This bug is really annoying. Sufficiently annoying that I registered an account on launchpad just to post this comment. I just got upgraded to ubuntu 12.04 on a machine where have no root access, so I can't hack any of the settings. It seems my only real option is to abandon gnome and use a different window manager. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
just want to say for those still stuck with this bug, and I'm not sure it's an option for you all. But I moved to lxde, and you might want to try a different window manager. This bug has been so persistent for so long I'm you might want to try and just find your own workround, i.e. a different window manager. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
Yeah, my ultimate fix was to switch to Xubuntu. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
Not likely. Adding the invisible window borders to metacity's non-composited mode is likely a nontrivial affair. On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 2:59 PM, axel 160...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: Unity-2D is not supported in never versions and does not have the same fix. ah, thanks for that hint which explains while this bug is still on confirmed critical for unity-2d. lets see then if unity-2d ever will be fixed =) -- You received this bug notification because you are a bug assignee. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Fix Released Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress Status in Release Notes for Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in Unity 2D: Confirmed Status in “human-gtk-theme” package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in “light-themes” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “metacity” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in “human-gtk-theme” source package in Maverick: Invalid Status in “light-themes” source package in Maverick: Triaged Status in “metacity” source package in Maverick: Triaged Bug description: * This should mostly be fixed for Natty and might get backported to earlier releases as well. For Precise (12.04) this is again broken for unity-2d (as of 17.7.2012 unity-2d 5.12.0-0ubuntu1.1). Note that if the window has a scrollbar, you can grab that to resize the window. If not, you are stuck with the 1px border. Workaround: NONE KNOWN (see comment 320)? * *Blueprint for Natty, Ubuntu 11.04: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection- dx-n-resizing-windows Work items1 * Make sure the new resize grip fits in current applications; doesn't interfere with anything. We should make some noise about this during the Natty cycle so people keep their eyes open and file bugs. 2 * Invisible window resize area - around 3px invisible area to allow resize on all sides. * Working grip backported to gtk2 already available in ppa : https://launchpad.net/~bratsche/+archive/gtk * Workaround: Edit /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity- theme-1.xml. Set the following values in frame_geometry_normal as desired: distance name=left_width value=3/ distance name=right_width value=3/ distance name=bottom_height value=3/ Binary package hint: metacity - The issue has been an issue for users (especially of large) screens for several releases- Trackpad users seem to be particularly impacted by this- The issue appears to have been significantly aggravated in Lucid by changing the border width from 3 pixels to 1 pixel The window borders in metacity are far too thin to be used for comfortable window resizing, and resize handles are not available in all applications (or even most). In fact, of all the windows I have open right now, not a single one of them has a resize handle. The result is that I get a lot of misses when I try to drag a window border, which usually results in my clicking on the wrong window altogether. The best fix for this usability bug is to create an invisible region around each non-maximized window about 4px thick that can be used for resizing (in addition to the visible border). Or perhaps there should be a border thickness option on the System Preferences Windows dialog (although the default thickness should still be increased considerably). Ideally all windows would also have a resize handle but I realize that these have to be application controlled (at least that seems to be the position of the metacity team). To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- Sam Spilsbury -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
Hey, five years and a half and grabbing handlers (not just windows resizers) is still buggy in Ubuntu. What puzzles me is, why is it easy to grab the left, right and bottom edges of the screen and it's almost imposible to grab the top edge, pane borders in some apps and many other handlers? Isn't there a single way for grabbing a handler? Shouldn't it be? What's so difficult about it that it's taking those many years for such a basic feature on a GUI? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
I suspect it's because they want to emulate how the Mac UI works, and the Mac only lets you grab the lower right corner. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
just seems to follow the trend of our time that others seem to know better whats good for you and use their power and ignorance to stick to their conviction ;) contrary to aleve (#333) i find it harder to grab any edge other than the top one (i'm on unity-2d). often having to use the touchpad of my notebook and resizing windows though it has been a pain for a long time now and its sad that the situation has not really improved. at least this issue seems to have got some attention as hundredpapercuts seems to have this on their list. i just wonder where their fix (status released) will become visible... -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
Unity-2D is not supported in never versions and does not have the same fix. On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 2:17 PM, axel 160...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: just seems to follow the trend of our time that others seem to know better whats good for you and use their power and ignorance to stick to their conviction ;) contrary to aleve (#333) i find it harder to grab any edge other than the top one (i'm on unity-2d). often having to use the touchpad of my notebook and resizing windows though it has been a pain for a long time now and its sad that the situation has not really improved. at least this issue seems to have got some attention as hundredpapercuts seems to have this on their list. i just wonder where their fix (status released) will become visible... -- You received this bug notification because you are a bug assignee. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Fix Released Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress Status in Release Notes for Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in Unity 2D: Confirmed Status in “human-gtk-theme” package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in “light-themes” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “metacity” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in “human-gtk-theme” source package in Maverick: Invalid Status in “light-themes” source package in Maverick: Triaged Status in “metacity” source package in Maverick: Triaged Bug description: * This should mostly be fixed for Natty and might get backported to earlier releases as well. For Precise (12.04) this is again broken for unity-2d (as of 17.7.2012 unity-2d 5.12.0-0ubuntu1.1). Note that if the window has a scrollbar, you can grab that to resize the window. If not, you are stuck with the 1px border. Workaround: NONE KNOWN (see comment 320)? * *Blueprint for Natty, Ubuntu 11.04: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection- dx-n-resizing-windows Work items1 * Make sure the new resize grip fits in current applications; doesn't interfere with anything. We should make some noise about this during the Natty cycle so people keep their eyes open and file bugs. 2 * Invisible window resize area - around 3px invisible area to allow resize on all sides. * Working grip backported to gtk2 already available in ppa : https://launchpad.net/~bratsche/+archive/gtk * Workaround: Edit /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity- theme-1.xml. Set the following values in frame_geometry_normal as desired: distance name=left_width value=3/ distance name=right_width value=3/ distance name=bottom_height value=3/ Binary package hint: metacity - The issue has been an issue for users (especially of large) screens for several releases- Trackpad users seem to be particularly impacted by this- The issue appears to have been significantly aggravated in Lucid by changing the border width from 3 pixels to 1 pixel The window borders in metacity are far too thin to be used for comfortable window resizing, and resize handles are not available in all applications (or even most). In fact, of all the windows I have open right now, not a single one of them has a resize handle. The result is that I get a lot of misses when I try to drag a window border, which usually results in my clicking on the wrong window altogether. The best fix for this usability bug is to create an invisible region around each non-maximized window about 4px thick that can be used for resizing (in addition to the visible border). Or perhaps there should be a border thickness option on the System Preferences Windows dialog (although the default thickness should still be increased considerably). Ideally all windows would also have a resize handle but I realize that these have to be application controlled (at least that seems to be the position of the metacity team). To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- Sam Spilsbury -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
Unity-2D is not supported in never versions and does not have the same fix. ah, thanks for that hint which explains while this bug is still on confirmed critical for unity-2d. lets see then if unity-2d ever will be fixed =) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
I'm using 12.10 and resizing windows is very very hard. I find it a pity because it's such a basic usability problem. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
Where's the bug for 12.10? Google doesn't find it, and the top border is still almost impossible to grab in Unity (3D). -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
Same problem with Ubuntu 12.10 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
I meant 10.12 :) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
@Pere, I presume in fact you /did/ mean 12.10 as there was no 10.12. Since this bug is only for Unity-2d and there is no Unity-2d then this bug is not applicable to 12.10. If you are seeing it in the latest Unity then it is a different bug. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
Sorry for that, and yes, it's a different bug. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
Is there a bug open for Unity3D? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
Launchpad supports tracking a bug affecting multiple packages/projects, including tracking state and unique fixes for each of them. I don't see why Unity3D could not be tagged as affected if it indeed is. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
Steve: because this bug is only about unity 2d with metacity. If you have an issue on unity (3d) then it is a different bug. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
** Changed in: metacity (Ubuntu) Importance: Wishlist = High ** Changed in: metacity (Ubuntu) Status: Fix Released = Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
The workaround in the first comment (editing the theme XML) works great. Is there any chance of seeing this in Quantal, or is Metacity considered dead in favor of Compiz as far as Canonical is concerned? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
As I understand it unity-2d is to be removed in Quantal(12.10), emulation of 3d being provided by llvmpipe for hardware that does not support it, so that Unity (3d) will run. From that point of view it appears that this bug becomes irrelevant from 12.10. That is unless there are other use cases. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
On 21 August 2012 20:51, Colin Law 160...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: As I understand it unity-2d is to be removed in Quantal(12.10), emulation of 3d being provided by llvmpipe for hardware that does not support it, so that Unity (3d) will run. From that point of view it appears that this bug becomes irrelevant from 12.10. That is unless there are other use cases. My laptop (Alienware m15x) has always ran Unity 3d and I've always been presented with a touchpad that was unusable for consistently being able to resize a window. Why is removing Unity 2d going to make this any better? -- Steve When one person suffers from a delusion it is insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion it is called religion. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
** Description changed: * No more comments needed This should mostly be fixed for Natty and might get backported to earlier releases as well. + + For Precise (12.04) this is again broken for unity-2d (as of 17.7.2012 unity-2d 5.12.0-0ubuntu1.1). + Note that if the window has a scrollbar, you can grab that to resize the window. If not, you are stuck with the 1px border. Workaround: NONE KNOWN (see comment 320)? * *Blueprint for Natty, Ubuntu 11.04: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection-dx-n -resizing-windows Work items1 * Make sure the new resize grip fits in current applications; doesn't interfere with anything. We should make some noise about this during the Natty cycle so people keep their eyes open and file bugs. 2 * Invisible window resize area - around 3px invisible area to allow resize on all sides. * Working grip backported to gtk2 already available in ppa : https://launchpad.net/~bratsche/+archive/gtk * Workaround: Edit /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity- theme-1.xml. Set the following values in frame_geometry_normal as desired: distance name=left_width value=3/ distance name=right_width value=3/ distance name=bottom_height value=3/ Binary package hint: metacity - The issue has been an issue for users (especially of large) screens for several releases- Trackpad users seem to be particularly impacted by this- The issue appears to have been significantly aggravated in Lucid by changing the border width from 3 pixels to 1 pixel The window borders in metacity are far too thin to be used for comfortable window resizing, and resize handles are not available in all applications (or even most). In fact, of all the windows I have open right now, not a single one of them has a resize handle. The result is that I get a lot of misses when I try to drag a window border, which usually results in my clicking on the wrong window altogether. The best fix for this usability bug is to create an invisible region around each non-maximized window about 4px thick that can be used for resizing (in addition to the visible border). Or perhaps there should be a border thickness option on the System Preferences Windows dialog (although the default thickness should still be increased considerably). Ideally all windows would also have a resize handle but I realize that these have to be application controlled (at least that seems to be the position of the metacity team). -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
** Description changed: * - No more comments needed This should mostly be fixed for Natty and might get backported to earlier releases as well. For Precise (12.04) this is again broken for unity-2d (as of 17.7.2012 unity-2d 5.12.0-0ubuntu1.1). Note that if the window has a scrollbar, you can grab that to resize the window. If not, you are stuck with the 1px border. Workaround: NONE KNOWN (see comment 320)? * *Blueprint for Natty, Ubuntu 11.04: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection-dx-n -resizing-windows Work items1 * Make sure the new resize grip fits in current applications; doesn't interfere with anything. We should make some noise about this during the Natty cycle so people keep their eyes open and file bugs. 2 * Invisible window resize area - around 3px invisible area to allow resize on all sides. * Working grip backported to gtk2 already available in ppa : https://launchpad.net/~bratsche/+archive/gtk * Workaround: Edit /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity- theme-1.xml. Set the following values in frame_geometry_normal as desired: distance name=left_width value=3/ distance name=right_width value=3/ distance name=bottom_height value=3/ Binary package hint: metacity - The issue has been an issue for users (especially of large) screens for several releases- Trackpad users seem to be particularly impacted by this- The issue appears to have been significantly aggravated in Lucid by changing the border width from 3 pixels to 1 pixel The window borders in metacity are far too thin to be used for comfortable window resizing, and resize handles are not available in all applications (or even most). In fact, of all the windows I have open right now, not a single one of them has a resize handle. The result is that I get a lot of misses when I try to drag a window border, which usually results in my clicking on the wrong window altogether. The best fix for this usability bug is to create an invisible region around each non-maximized window about 4px thick that can be used for resizing (in addition to the visible border). Or perhaps there should be a border thickness option on the System Preferences Windows dialog (although the default thickness should still be increased considerably). Ideally all windows would also have a resize handle but I realize that these have to be application controlled (at least that seems to be the position of the metacity team). -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
I recently installed xubuntu 12.04 and the 1px thing makes it impossible for me. I've always had problems with window borders, I'm spazzy with the mouse, but until now I've always been able to configure it larger. But with 12.04, I've tried everything. I've changed the metacity-theme-1.xml file, somebody told me the size was based on the actual png image, so I changed all of those. Others have said try a different theme. I've done that plenty too. I'm a programmer, I get it, I'm willing to do whatever, but how can I actually go about changing the border width? I don't need you guys to change the defaults or make a pretty UI to make it configurable (though that would be nice) just tell me the byte offset in what file I need to make it bigger and I will be happy to do it myself, but nothing I do works. Help? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
This is 2012, usability is rated as minor important, seriously? Seeing that this problem is known since 2007 drives me mad. In the end these small things decide if a Ui supports you in doing your work, or make it a real pain. I am glad that I found the work around - but editing some xml- config-file is not an option for most of the users. (why don't fix these themes?) And don't get me wrong - I like Ubuntu, but it are the little things like this problem which prevent common users to use it, and that is really sad! (Ubuntu 12.04, with Gnome classic, no effects.) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
@michael-kraxner; are you seeing this issue in Unity2d or Unity3d? thanks! -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
In my experience this is only a problem in unity 2d and not in unity. Grabbing window borders and resizing is easy in Unity but a pain in Unity 2d. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
+1 on this problem. Running in VMware with Unity2D, Ubuntu 12.04. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
Same here. Impossible to resize by grabbing windows borders on 12.04 - 64-bit - 1920x1080 screen. Using the workaround seems to have fixed it. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
This is also confirmed at my system; the window resize area at the border is 1 pixel wide. Ubuntu 12.04 with Gnome classic, no effects. With the Unity mode, the borders are grabbable but the corner resize area is way too small. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
This problem or some related problem has come back for me after the 12.04 upgrade. On my 1920 x 1080 screen I am unable to click and drag on the lower-left, bottom, lower-right, left, or right resize handles at all, even if the resize mouse cursor is displayed. I can click and drag on the top-left, top, top-right handles with no trouble. This problem occurs when running in VMware but I don't remember having the same issue when running in native - might have to do with Unity2D vs Unity. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
12.04 ... not fixed here. I think the devs must be all running MacOS. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
Inexplicably, I think Canonical wants to clone MacOS as much as possible, without getting sued. Worstinterface..ever. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
I need to vent. The #1 comment in this thread, has at least a semi-valid workaround that requires 3 line changes, but it hasn't been released in 5 years? Somethign is really wrong with Cannonical that this is a lower priority than all the new UI features? Some people might not agree, I just hope Ubuntu gets back on track moving forward. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
** No longer affects: unity -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
The bug affecting unity was really in compiz and is now marked as fixed: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/953839 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
I am told that the next Unity release (due today or tomorrow) will fix this again. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
Oh my god I can not believe this bug returned recently in 12.04. What a regression! It's like a nightmare! -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
On 22/03/12 09:45, Ingo Gerth wrote: Oh my god I can not believe this bug returned recently in 12.04. What a regression! It's like a nightmare! I am starting to think there must be an evil force trying to make the Ubuntu desktop harder to use! First this really annoying persistent bug, then Unity... :-P -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
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[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
+1 confirmation that invisible borders are no longer active on 03/19/2012 daily build of Precise 12.04. This behavior is extremely frustrating and brings back bad memories from this old bug. A temporary regression let's hope! ** Also affects: unity Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Tags added: regression-potential -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
I confirm that in precise the invisible window borders are no more present and the resize process is again difficult. Maybe this is because unity-window-decorator has been replaced by gtk-window-decorator? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
I don't think this really is actually fixed in Unity in Precise, or rather, bizarrely, it seems intermittently fixed. This morning, it was working ok, but now I have to be exactly over the very narrow border to resize the windows. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
demonstration ** Attachment added: recording.ogv https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity-2d/+bug/160311/+attachment/2879264/+files/recording.ogv -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
hm, launchpad isn't linking it, but https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity- 2d/+bug/160311/+attachment/2879264/+files/recording.ogv shows that it's actually still hard to grab the window border in precise. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
I agree with Renbag. I use terminal windows without scroll bar all the time. Thi is not a solution. The only reasonable solution is to restore invisible grabbing area of size~5 pixels within all long window's borders. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
I guess the work done here https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec /packageselection-dx-n-resizing-windows was not ported to Unity? It's sad that this basic usability bug affecting all users is over 4 years old, and people just keep trotting out workarounds. Fortunately, the problem is not nearly as pronounced in Xubuntu. ** Also affects: unity Importance: Undecided Status: New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
In unity the bug has been fixed using invisible window grip support through compiz and unity-window-decorator. See: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/metacity/+bug/160311/comments/246 The resize difficulties remains only when using unity-2d. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
** No longer affects: unity -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
Are there any plans to address this bug for unity-2d, after having marked it as critical? Recently the resize grips in the bottom right corner have been entirely removed from precise, leaving the resize process of windows very difficult in unity-2d. I use the attached script (50_light-themes-borders) in /etc/X11/Xsession.d to copy the Ambiance and Radiance themes to the $HOME/.themes user directory and then modify the border width to 3 pixels, for normal frame geometry. The modifications are made only if unity-2d session is used and are reverted for other sessions. However the script may break if changes are made to the original themes. There must be surely a better way to do this... ** Attachment added: 50_light-themes-borders https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/metacity/+bug/160311/+attachment/2840420/+files/50_light-themes-borders -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
Renzo: In precise (ubuntu 12.04), you can resize the window by grabbing the overlay scrollbar, which is much larger than the border, and available regardless of the session type (unity-2d or anything else). Yann Dìnendal On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 16:42, Renzo Bagnati 160...@bugs.launchpad.netwrote: Are there any plans to address this bug for unity-2d, after having marked it as critical? Recently the resize grips in the bottom right corner have been entirely removed from precise, leaving the resize process of windows very difficult in unity-2d. I use the attached script (50_light-themes-borders) in /etc/X11/Xsession.d to copy the Ambiance and Radiance themes to the $HOME/.themes user directory and then modify the border width to 3 pixels, for normal frame geometry. The modifications are made only if unity-2d session is used and are reverted for other sessions. However the script may break if changes are made to the original themes. There must be surely a better way to do this... ** Attachment added: 50_light-themes-borders https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/metacity/+bug/160311/+attachment/2840420/+files/50_light-themes-borders -- You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Fix Released Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress Status in Release Notes for Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in Unity 2D: Confirmed Status in “human-gtk-theme” package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in “light-themes” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “metacity” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “human-gtk-theme” source package in Maverick: Invalid Status in “light-themes” source package in Maverick: Triaged Status in “metacity” source package in Maverick: Triaged Bug description: * No more comments needed This should mostly be fixed for Natty and might get backported to earlier releases as well. * *Blueprint for Natty, Ubuntu 11.04: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection- dx-n-resizing-windows Work items1 * Make sure the new resize grip fits in current applications; doesn't interfere with anything. We should make some noise about this during the Natty cycle so people keep their eyes open and file bugs. 2 * Invisible window resize area - around 3px invisible area to allow resize on all sides. * Working grip backported to gtk2 already available in ppa : https://launchpad.net/~bratsche/+archive/gtkhttps://launchpad.net/%7Ebratsche/+archive/gtk * Workaround: Edit /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity- theme-1.xml. Set the following values in frame_geometry_normal as desired: distance name=left_width value=3/ distance name=right_width value=3/ distance name=bottom_height value=3/ Binary package hint: metacity - The issue has been an issue for users (especially of large) screens for several releases- Trackpad users seem to be particularly impacted by this- The issue appears to have been significantly aggravated in Lucid by changing the border width from 3 pixels to 1 pixel The window borders in metacity are far too thin to be used for comfortable window resizing, and resize handles are not available in all applications (or even most). In fact, of all the windows I have open right now, not a single one of them has a resize handle. The result is that I get a lot of misses when I try to drag a window border, which usually results in my clicking on the wrong window altogether. The best fix for this usability bug is to create an invisible region around each non-maximized window about 4px thick that can be used for resizing (in addition to the visible border). Or perhaps there should be a border thickness option on the System Preferences Windows dialog (although the default thickness should still be increased considerably). Ideally all windows would also have a resize handle but I realize that these have to be application controlled (at least that seems to be the position of the metacity team). To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
Using the overlay scrollbar to resize is not very intuitive and can be used only to drag horizontally. Moreover the scrollbar is visible only if the window has a scrollable content, hence is not a general solution. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
** Changed in: unity-2d Importance: Undecided = Critical ** Changed in: unity-2d Status: New = Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
2011/12/22 u-foka ta...@eisenberger.hu Maybe the best would be a configurable size for the hidden grab area :) Currently it's difficult to change, how I seen the size is hardcoded into the theme right? But is this really necessary? Three options: - review feedback and pick a sensible default value - add a new option to ccsm - link the actual radius with some other element that makes sense, e.g. the shadow decoration. KDE has a configurable border size somewhere in its theme options (option #2). Gnome 2 used to link the radius with the theme border (option #3). Windows and MacOS (Lion) don't have a configurable size, same as Unity (option #1). I am not sure about Gnome Shell (but the default size seems to be slightly larger than Unity). This is on of those cases where a sensible default, well, makes sense. A size of 8px or 10px would be easier to hit than 5px, without impacting usability negatively (i.e. it still falls within the visible shadow decoration, where you are unlikely to click to raise a window). It should be a relatively simple change with a negligible chance of regressions. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
Actually the size of the shadow sounds as a good starting point! -- Eisenberger Tamás ta...@eisenberger.hu On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 10:07 AM, The Fiddler 160...@bugs.launchpad.netwrote: 2011/12/22 u-foka ta...@eisenberger.hu Maybe the best would be a configurable size for the hidden grab area :) Currently it's difficult to change, how I seen the size is hardcoded into the theme right? But is this really necessary? Three options: - review feedback and pick a sensible default value - add a new option to ccsm - link the actual radius with some other element that makes sense, e.g. the shadow decoration. KDE has a configurable border size somewhere in its theme options (option #2). Gnome 2 used to link the radius with the theme border (option #3). Windows and MacOS (Lion) don't have a configurable size, same as Unity (option #1). I am not sure about Gnome Shell (but the default size seems to be slightly larger than Unity). This is on of those cases where a sensible default, well, makes sense. A size of 8px or 10px would be easier to hit than 5px, without impacting usability negatively (i.e. it still falls within the visible shadow decoration, where you are unlikely to click to raise a window). It should be a relatively simple change with a negligible chance of regressions. -- You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to a duplicate bug report (638709). https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
On 22 December 2011 02:21, Paul Sladen ubu...@paul.sladen.org wrote: Steve Flynn: are you on Unity 2D or Unity 3D? 3D. -- Steve When one person suffers from a delusion it is insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion it is called religion. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
On 21/12/11 11:32, Nacnud Nosmoht wrote: Broken on Oneiric. And I still haven't seen a fix. And I don't care if this is or isn't a bug, and all the other nuances, I just want a way to be able to resize windows. I can make it work if I have a mouse plugged in, but using the touchpad, with my calloused fingers, it's completely impossible to grab the window border to resize the window. COME ON GUYS - THIS SHOULDN'T BE THAT HARD! Amazing eh? Microsoft folks are laughing their heads off: can't get this simply thing right? +1 (for the 10th time?) Jan -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
@jan-bakuwel-gmail; in what way is the current Ubuntu window resizing behaviour different from the Microsoft window resizing behaviour? In both Windows and Ubuntu we have several px on the left, right and bottom of the windows that is dragable, in fact I think the dragable area in Ubuntu is slightly larger. We *do* have a bug with the dragable area at the top of a window, but are there any other issues you are aware of? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
2011/12/21 John Lea 160...@bugs.launchpad.net @jan-bakuwel-gmail; in what way is the current Ubuntu window resizing behaviour different from the Microsoft window resizing behaviour? In both Windows and Ubuntu we have several px on the left, right and bottom of the windows that is dragable, in fact I think the dragable area in Ubuntu is slightly larger. We *do* have a bug with the dragable area at the top of a window, but are there any other issues you are aware of? 1. It doesn't work in Unity2d. 2. The draggable area is ~half the size of that in Windows. (IIRC, Windows is 10px, Ubuntu is 5 or 6px). -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
** Also affects: unity-2d Importance: Undecided Status: New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
@stapostol; thanks for your response, I've marked the bug as also affects unity2d. Re. the sizing of the dragable area, in WindowsXP the dragable area is 5px (but it may well be larger in Windows 7). So yes the size could be increased, but 5px also seems workable. For those who need * significantly* larger grabable areas for accessibility reasons, another options is to use the love handles with a key combination, see http://linux-software-news-tutorials.blogspot.com/2011/06/activate- fantastic-grab-handles-in.html for details. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
2011/12/21 John Lea 160...@bugs.launchpad.net @stapostol; thanks for your response, I've marked the bug as also affects unity2d. Re. the sizing of the dragable area, in WindowsXP the dragable area is 5px (but it may well be larger in Windows 7). So yes the size could be increased, but 5px also seems workable. Indeed, WinXP had 5px draggable areas - but WinXP is 10 years old now and it might not be the most suitable point of reference for modern design topics. The draggable area was increased in Vista (same as Win7) and I think I recall a msdn blog mentioning this was based on usability tests (but it's been half a decade since then and my google-fu is letting me down, so don't quote me on that). In any case, the drag area is invisible in Unity, so a potential size increase should be a relatively safe change. For those who need * significantly* larger grabable areas for accessibility reasons, another options is to use the love handles with a key combination, see http://linux-software-news-tutorials.blogspot.com/2011/06/activate- fantastic-grab-handles-in.html for details. These are indeed fantastic, maybe they merit more attention than currently given. (I love them on my laptop, but I cannot find a way to use them on my desktop). -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
Hy! I'm a little bit afraid of a larger resize area.. If I click 10px far from a window, I probably want to raise the window below. 5-6px is ok, but more is risky, especially because that area is invisible. Eisenberger Tamás ta...@eisenberger.hu On 12/21/2011 03:56 PM, The Fiddler wrote: 2011/12/21 John Lea160...@bugs.launchpad.net @stapostol; thanks for your response, I've marked the bug as also affects unity2d. Re. the sizing of the dragable area, in WindowsXP the dragable area is 5px (but it may well be larger in Windows 7). So yes the size could be increased, but 5px also seems workable. Indeed, WinXP had 5px draggable areas - but WinXP is 10 years old now and it might not be the most suitable point of reference for modern design topics. The draggable area was increased in Vista (same as Win7) and I think I recall a msdn blog mentioning this was based on usability tests (but it's been half a decade since then and my google-fu is letting me down, so don't quote me on that). In any case, the drag area is invisible in Unity, so a potential size increase should be a relatively safe change. For those who need * significantly* larger grabable areas for accessibility reasons, another options is to use the love handles with a key combination, see http://linux-software-news-tutorials.blogspot.com/2011/06/activate- fantastic-grab-handles-in.html for details. These are indeed fantastic, maybe they merit more attention than currently given. (I love them on my laptop, but I cannot find a way to use them on my desktop). -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
Hi John, On 22/12/11 01:59, John Lea wrote: @jan-bakuwel-gmail; in what way is the current Ubuntu window resizing behaviour different from the Microsoft window resizing behaviour? In both Windows and Ubuntu we have several px on the left, right and bottom of the windows that is dragable, in fact I think the dragable area in Ubuntu is slightly larger. We *do* have a bug with the dragable area at the top of a window, but are there any other issues you are aware of? This issue has been dragging on for so long I've grown tired of it. Have you ever tried using a touchpad to resize a window with a default Ubuntu 11.10 installation on a laptop with a high resolution screen? I've given up on it on Ubuntu 10.04 and have gotten used to Alt - Right Click to resize windows until I have time to write a program that can read my mind as I don't think this will ever be fixed on Ubuntu 10.04. I can't use Ubuntu 11.10 as yet as Unity is buggy and even if it would not be buggy it still is a much lesser fit to my needs than Gnome 2. I might be forced to stay with Ubuntu 10.04 for a few more years as I think Unity need a lot more work before it's usable for anything more than occasional desktop work. Fortunately support for 10.04 has been extended - I assume for obvious reasons? The point many people are trying to make is that resizing windows needs to be intuitive. Dare I say that something that is intuitive should no more depend on the selected theme as it would on the selected background image? It has been intuitive on Windows since 3 (can't remember Windows 3 sorry :-P), as well as on any incarnation of Mac OS but somehow we seem to continue to have to debate and explain something that I would consider really really obvious. Perhaps the developers should simply use a laptop with a touchpad and high resolution screen and see if they can resize windows without inflicting RSI on themselves. If they can't, it's not fixed, no matter what technical arguments are put forward. regards, Jan -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
Perhaps the developers should simply use a laptop with a touchpad and high resolution screen and see if they can resize windows without inflicting RSI on themselves. Bingo! My laptop has a very high resolution screen, and this bug drives me batty. Don't the developers ever test on a system with a high resolution screen and a trackpad? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
On 21 December 2011 20:54, David N. Welton davidnwel...@gmail.com wrote: Bingo! My laptop has a very high resolution screen, and this bug drives me batty. Don't the developers ever test on a system with a high resolution screen and a trackpad? Try using a trackball. Absolute nightmare. -- Steve When one person suffers from a delusion it is insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion it is called religion. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
Hy! I can grab the 5px areas easily with trackball or touchpad on my T61 (14,1 1440x900), on the other hand, the 1px area is nearly impossible to catch with any display and pointing device. Eisenberger Tamás ta...@eisenberger.hu On 12/21/2011 10:53 PM, Steve Flynn wrote: On 21 December 2011 20:54, David N. Weltondavidnwel...@gmail.com wrote: Bingo! My laptop has a very high resolution screen, and this bug drives me batty. Don't the developers ever test on a system with a high resolution screen and a trackpad? Try using a trackball. Absolute nightmare. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
On 21 December 2011 22:27, u-foka ta...@eisenberger.hu wrote: Hy! I can grab the 5px areas easily with trackball or touchpad on my T61 (14,1 1440x900), on the other hand, the 1px area is nearly impossible to catch with any display and pointing device. Alienware m15x, 1900 * 1200. If I hit the grab area first time using the touchpad it's a fluke. If I hit it with the trackball, it's only with a degree of concentration. Same laptop, same trackball and touchpad, Windows at the same rez - no problem. /shrug Been complaining about this for getting one for 2 years and it actually got resolved. Then Oneric came out and it was back to square one. -- Steve When one person suffers from a delusion it is insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion it is called religion. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
Steve Flynn: are you on Unity 2D or Unity 3D? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
Maybe the best would be a configurable size for the hidden grab area :) Currently it's difficult to change, how I seen the size is hardcoded into the theme right? Eisenberger Tamás ta...@eisenberger.hu On 12/22/2011 01:26 AM, Steve Flynn wrote: On 21 December 2011 22:27, u-fokata...@eisenberger.hu wrote: Hy! I can grab the 5px areas easily with trackball or touchpad on my T61 (14,1 1440x900), on the other hand, the 1px area is nearly impossible to catch with any display and pointing device. Alienware m15x, 1900 * 1200. If I hit the grab area first time using the touchpad it's a fluke. If I hit it with the trackball, it's only with a degree of concentration. Same laptop, same trackball and touchpad, Windows at the same rez - no problem. /shrug Been complaining about this for getting one for 2 years and it actually got resolved. Then Oneric came out and it was back to square one. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
Broken on Oneiric. And I still haven't seen a fix. And I don't care if this is or isn't a bug, and all the other nuances, I just want a way to be able to resize windows. I can make it work if I have a mouse plugged in, but using the touchpad, with my calloused fingers, it's completely impossible to grab the window border to resize the window. COME ON GUYS - THIS SHOULDN'T BE THAT HARD! -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
No offense, but I also agree with Nacnud. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
I have experienced the same problem with a fresh installation of Ubuntu 11.04 natty. I have fixed it with the following: * Workaround: Edit /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity-theme-1.xml. Set the following values in frame_geometry_normal as desired: distance name=left_width value=3/ distance name=right_width value=3/ distance name=bottom_height value=3/ * -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
yep, it regressed for me too. and to make the matter worse, the gtk resize grip in the bottom-right corner is gone too (or at least it's gone when using gnome-shell, not sure about unity) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 8:05 PM, The Fiddler 160...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: 2011/8/21 Sam Spilsbury smspil...@gmail.com Invisible borders are not implemented in unity-2d Are they technically infeasible or could they be implemented with some effort? If so, where should they be implemented? They can be implemented with some effort, but its difficult when you're not compositing because its another set of windows to be tracking (you can't reparent an InputOutput window into an InputOnly window, which means that you can't abuse reparenting like we do in compiz in order to do this easily) They'd belong in metacity in that case. -- You received this bug notification because you are a bug assignee. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Fix Released Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress Status in Release Notes for Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “human-gtk-theme” package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in “light-themes” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “metacity” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “human-gtk-theme” source package in Maverick: Invalid Status in “light-themes” source package in Maverick: Triaged Status in “metacity” source package in Maverick: Triaged Bug description: * No more comments needed This should mostly be fixed for Natty and might get backported to earlier releases as well. * *Blueprint for Natty, Ubuntu 11.04: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection- dx-n-resizing-windows Work items1 * Make sure the new resize grip fits in current applications; doesn't interfere with anything. We should make some noise about this during the Natty cycle so people keep their eyes open and file bugs. 2 * Invisible window resize area - around 3px invisible area to allow resize on all sides. * Working grip backported to gtk2 already available in ppa : https://launchpad.net/~bratsche/+archive/gtk * Workaround: Edit /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity- theme-1.xml. Set the following values in frame_geometry_normal as desired: distance name=left_width value=3/ distance name=right_width value=3/ distance name=bottom_height value=3/ Binary package hint: metacity - The issue has been an issue for users (especially of large) screens for several releases- Trackpad users seem to be particularly impacted by this- The issue appears to have been significantly aggravated in Lucid by changing the border width from 3 pixels to 1 pixel The window borders in metacity are far too thin to be used for comfortable window resizing, and resize handles are not available in all applications (or even most). In fact, of all the windows I have open right now, not a single one of them has a resize handle. The result is that I get a lot of misses when I try to drag a window border, which usually results in my clicking on the wrong window altogether. The best fix for this usability bug is to create an invisible region around each non-maximized window about 4px thick that can be used for resizing (in addition to the visible border). Or perhaps there should be a border thickness option on the System Preferences Windows dialog (although the default thickness should still be increased considerably). Ideally all windows would also have a resize handle but I realize that these have to be application controlled (at least that seems to be the position of the metacity team). To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- Sam Spilsbury -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 9:22 PM, Fabien Tassin f...@ubuntu.com wrote: yep, it regressed for me too. and to make the matter worse, the gtk resize grip in the bottom-right corner is gone too (or at least it's gone when using gnome-shell, not sure about unity) They will be back once we work out what caused the performance problems in the unity decorator (xrender is really really slow on intel recently) -- You received this bug notification because you are a bug assignee. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Fix Released Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress Status in Release Notes for Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “human-gtk-theme” package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in “light-themes” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “metacity” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “human-gtk-theme” source package in Maverick: Invalid Status in “light-themes” source package in Maverick: Triaged Status in “metacity” source package in Maverick: Triaged Bug description: * No more comments needed This should mostly be fixed for Natty and might get backported to earlier releases as well. * *Blueprint for Natty, Ubuntu 11.04: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection- dx-n-resizing-windows Work items1 * Make sure the new resize grip fits in current applications; doesn't interfere with anything. We should make some noise about this during the Natty cycle so people keep their eyes open and file bugs. 2 * Invisible window resize area - around 3px invisible area to allow resize on all sides. * Working grip backported to gtk2 already available in ppa : https://launchpad.net/~bratsche/+archive/gtk * Workaround: Edit /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity- theme-1.xml. Set the following values in frame_geometry_normal as desired: distance name=left_width value=3/ distance name=right_width value=3/ distance name=bottom_height value=3/ Binary package hint: metacity - The issue has been an issue for users (especially of large) screens for several releases- Trackpad users seem to be particularly impacted by this- The issue appears to have been significantly aggravated in Lucid by changing the border width from 3 pixels to 1 pixel The window borders in metacity are far too thin to be used for comfortable window resizing, and resize handles are not available in all applications (or even most). In fact, of all the windows I have open right now, not a single one of them has a resize handle. The result is that I get a lot of misses when I try to drag a window border, which usually results in my clicking on the wrong window altogether. The best fix for this usability bug is to create an invisible region around each non-maximized window about 4px thick that can be used for resizing (in addition to the visible border). Or perhaps there should be a border thickness option on the System Preferences Windows dialog (although the default thickness should still be increased considerably). Ideally all windows would also have a resize handle but I realize that these have to be application controlled (at least that seems to be the position of the metacity team). To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- Sam Spilsbury -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
2011/8/21 RussianNeuroMancer 160...@bugs.launchpad.net Now it's again issue in Oneiric. In both unity and unity2d. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
Invisible borders are not implemented in unity-2d On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 4:43 PM, The Fiddler 160...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: 2011/8/21 RussianNeuroMancer 160...@bugs.launchpad.net Now it's again issue in Oneiric. In both unity and unity2d. -- You received this bug notification because you are a bug assignee. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Fix Released Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress Status in Release Notes for Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “human-gtk-theme” package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in “light-themes” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “metacity” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “human-gtk-theme” source package in Maverick: Invalid Status in “light-themes” source package in Maverick: Triaged Status in “metacity” source package in Maverick: Triaged Bug description: * No more comments needed This should mostly be fixed for Natty and might get backported to earlier releases as well. * *Blueprint for Natty, Ubuntu 11.04: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection- dx-n-resizing-windows Work items1 * Make sure the new resize grip fits in current applications; doesn't interfere with anything. We should make some noise about this during the Natty cycle so people keep their eyes open and file bugs. 2 * Invisible window resize area - around 3px invisible area to allow resize on all sides. * Working grip backported to gtk2 already available in ppa : https://launchpad.net/~bratsche/+archive/gtk * Workaround: Edit /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity- theme-1.xml. Set the following values in frame_geometry_normal as desired: distance name=left_width value=3/ distance name=right_width value=3/ distance name=bottom_height value=3/ Binary package hint: metacity - The issue has been an issue for users (especially of large) screens for several releases- Trackpad users seem to be particularly impacted by this- The issue appears to have been significantly aggravated in Lucid by changing the border width from 3 pixels to 1 pixel The window borders in metacity are far too thin to be used for comfortable window resizing, and resize handles are not available in all applications (or even most). In fact, of all the windows I have open right now, not a single one of them has a resize handle. The result is that I get a lot of misses when I try to drag a window border, which usually results in my clicking on the wrong window altogether. The best fix for this usability bug is to create an invisible region around each non-maximized window about 4px thick that can be used for resizing (in addition to the visible border). Or perhaps there should be a border thickness option on the System Preferences Windows dialog (although the default thickness should still be increased considerably). Ideally all windows would also have a resize handle but I realize that these have to be application controlled (at least that seems to be the position of the metacity team). To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- Sam Spilsbury -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
2011/8/21 Sam Spilsbury smspil...@gmail.com Invisible borders are not implemented in unity-2d Are they technically infeasible or could they be implemented with some effort? If so, where should they be implemented? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
Now it's again issue in Oneiric. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
I'm out of the office until 1st August. On 21 Apr 2011, at 09:11, Peter 160...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: thanks to scaine #58 for something that works can't believe it took 4 years for some to realise windows that are extremely difficult to grab the sides of is not the intention of a Graphical User Interface -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Papercutters, which is subscribed to One Hundred Paper Cuts. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Fix Released Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress Status in Release Notes for Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “human-gtk-theme” package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in “light-themes” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “metacity” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “human-gtk-theme” source package in Maverick: Invalid Status in “light-themes” source package in Maverick: Triaged Status in “metacity” source package in Maverick: Triaged Bug description: * No more comments needed This should mostly be fixed for Natty and might get backported to earlier releases as well. * *Blueprint for Natty, Ubuntu 11.04: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection- dx-n-resizing-windows Work items1 * Make sure the new resize grip fits in current applications; doesn't interfere with anything. We should make some noise about this during the Natty cycle so people keep their eyes open and file bugs. 2 * Invisible window resize area - around 3px invisible area to allow resize on all sides. * Working grip backported to gtk2 already available in ppa : https://launchpad.net/~bratsche/+archive/gtk * Workaround: Edit /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity- theme-1.xml. Set the following values in frame_geometry_normal as desired: distance name=left_width value=3/ distance name=right_width value=3/ distance name=bottom_height value=3/ Binary package hint: metacity - The issue has been an issue for users (especially of large) screens for several releases- Trackpad users seem to be particularly impacted by this- The issue appears to have been significantly aggravated in Lucid by changing the border width from 3 pixels to 1 pixel The window borders in metacity are far too thin to be used for comfortable window resizing, and resize handles are not available in all applications (or even most). In fact, of all the windows I have open right now, not a single one of them has a resize handle. The result is that I get a lot of misses when I try to drag a window border, which usually results in my clicking on the wrong window altogether. The best fix for this usability bug is to create an invisible region around each non-maximized window about 4px thick that can be used for resizing (in addition to the visible border). Or perhaps there should be a border thickness option on the System Preferences Windows dialog (although the default thickness should still be increased considerably). Ideally all windows would also have a resize handle but I realize that these have to be application controlled (at least that seems to be the position of the metacity team). ** Attachment added: unnamed https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311/+attachment/2233535/+files/unnamed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
[cut] Are you running unity-window-decorator? ps aux | grep unity-window-decorator On one of my machines I have similar issue. unity-window-decorator is not running. After: $ compiz --replace $ unity-window-decorator --replace border is more than 1px. Which package should I re/install to make it work by default after restart? [cut] -- Patryk LeadMan Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
Well, I got Ubuntu 11.04 (Unity) up-to-date, but still this border grip problem isn't fixed. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
Worked for me with a fresh install. Extra grab space is on the outside of the window in the shadow area Please excuse brevity and pistakes this email was composed on a mobile phone. Thanks and best regards, Richard -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
That is strange I just use Unity 3d and unity 2d (no classic) with the default Ambiance theme, I didn't change a thing. I also did a fresh Ubuntu 11.04 install, so what do I wrong? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult
Melroy: perhaps you've found a new issue, which we'll have to debug with your assistance. Please could you file a /new/ bug report (and post the bug number here) so we can keep what you're seeing separate from the original fix for this which was tested and applied many months ago. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311 Title: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/160311/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
