[Bug 200462] Re: Copying Files From CD/DVD Sets Permissions To Read Only
** Tags removed: regression-release ** Tags added: hardy lucid -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/200462 Title: Copying Files From CD/DVD Sets Permissions To Read Only To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gvfs/+bug/200462/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 200462] Re: Copying Files From CD/DVD Sets Permissions To Read Only
Hardy has seen the end of its life and is no longer receiving any updates. Marking the Hardy task for this ticket as Won't Fix. ** Changed in: gvfs (Ubuntu Hardy) Status: Triaged = Won't Fix -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/200462 Title: Copying Files From CD/DVD Sets Permissions To Read Only To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gvfs/+bug/200462/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 200462] Re: Copying Files From CD/DVD Sets Permissions To Read Only
** Tags removed: regression -- Copying Files From CD/DVD Sets Permissions To Read Only https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/200462 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 200462] Re: Copying Files From CD/DVD Sets Permissions To Read Only
** Changed in: gvfs Importance: Unknown = Medium -- Copying Files From CD/DVD Sets Permissions To Read Only https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/200462 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 200462] Re: Copying Files From CD/DVD Sets Permissions To Read Only
Permissions as set up during install. ke...@keith-desktop:/media$ ls -al total 36 drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4096 2009-04-02 21:44 . drwxr-xr-x 20 root root 4096 2009-03-05 13:55 .. lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root6 2009-03-05 12:10 cdrom - cdrom0 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2009-03-05 12:10 cdrom0 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2009-03-05 12:10 cdrom1 drwx-- 3 keith root 8192 1970-01-01 01:00 disk -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 110 2009-04-02 21:44 .hal-mtab -rw--- 1 root root0 2009-04-02 21:44 .hal-mtab-lock Change the permissions ke...@keith-desktop:/media$ sudo chmod 777 cdrom0 ke...@keith-desktop:/media$ sudo chmod 777 cdrom1 ke...@keith-desktop:/media$ ls -al total 36 drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4096 2009-04-02 21:44 . drwxr-xr-x 20 root root 4096 2009-03-05 13:55 .. lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root6 2009-03-05 12:10 cdrom - cdrom0 drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 4096 2009-03-05 12:10 cdrom0 drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 4096 2009-03-05 12:10 cdrom1 drwx-- 3 keith root 8192 1970-01-01 01:00 disk -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 110 2009-04-02 21:44 .hal-mtab -rw--- 1 root root0 2009-04-02 21:44 .hal-mtab-lock Looks 'good'. However having written to a rewritable disk using the unmodified permissions inserting that disk into, in this case cdrom1, causes this to happen ke...@keith-desktop:/media$ ls -al total 34 drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4096 2009-04-02 21:44 . drwxr-xr-x 20 root root 4096 2009-03-05 13:55 .. lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root6 2009-03-05 12:10 cdrom - cdrom0 drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 4096 2009-03-05 12:10 cdrom0 dr-xr-xr-x 4 root root 2048 2009-04-02 20:21 cdrom1 drwx-- 3 keith root 8192 1970-01-01 01:00 disk -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 110 2009-04-02 21:44 .hal-mtab -rw--- 1 root root0 2009-04-02 21:44 .hal-mtab-lock The previously changed permission for cdrom1 have picked up on the permissions used during creation of the volume and reverted to their original settings. I apologise. Before investigating this further I had had a play trying to 'fix' it so the 'original' install settings as presented here might not be the actual ones. I'm slightly confused that Brasero and other GUI tools were able to write to a blank disk in the first place on a non-root account. Obviously they can but then fall over later. As I say, sorry, I haven't been very stringent about the way I've investigated this. I've been typical me and just started mashing about with things. If I remove the disk then ke...@keith-desktop:/media$ ls -al total 36 drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4096 2009-04-02 21:44 . drwxr-xr-x 20 root root 4096 2009-03-05 13:55 .. lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root6 2009-03-05 12:10 cdrom - cdrom0 drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 4096 2009-03-05 12:10 cdrom0 drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 4096 2009-03-05 12:10 cdrom1 drwx-- 3 keith root 8192 1970-01-01 01:00 disk -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 110 2009-04-02 21:44 .hal-mtab -rw--- 1 root root0 2009-04-02 21:44 .hal-mtab-lock The permissions revert to the ones that I changed them to. This looks good In the mean time if you look at the mounted volume properties under Gnome... http://www.overkill.talktalk.net/ubuntu/020409/ http://www.overkill.talktalk.net/ubuntu/020409/ You can see that I've thrashed about trying to change the permissions that way. Of course it does not work because the system just picks up on the permissions used to create the volume in the first place. The second picture, of the volume settings, is of interest because the mount options are displayed as ro nosuid nodev noexec and, although I can't fully decipher the meanings is looks like those values relate to the permissions in place when the volume was created and written to, the default install values. Oh, yes I did try playing about with /etc/fstab like this... /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 auto rw,user,noauto,noexec,utf8 0 0 /dev/scd1 /media/cdrom1 auto rw,user,noauto,noexec,utf8 0 0 I'm not proud so I am happy to admit that I'm no expert and might not know exactly what all that stuff means. However it does not work. In both cases, via fstab or via Gnome, whatever you try to do gets overruled by what was used to create/write to the volume in the first place. I'll be bold, before I try something, and say it is not really a bug as such, unless, possibly, the ability to write to the disk when the permissions did not allow it is really there. It might be an oversight in setting those default permissions during the install in the first place but they may well be valid choices. Otherwise it might just be irritating. Babble babble. OK, now I will try something. At the moment, nothing in the drive I have... ke...@keith-desktop:/media$ ls -al total 36 drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4096 2009-04-02 21:44 . drwxr-xr-x 20 root root 4096 2009-03-05 13:55 .. lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root6 2009-03-05 12:10 cdrom - cdrom0 drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 4096 2009-03-05 12:10 cdrom0 drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 4096 2009-03-05 12:10 cdrom1 drwx-- 3 keith
[Bug 200462] Re: Copying Files From CD/DVD Sets Permissions To Read Only
is there any possibility to fix this in hardy? -- Copying Files From CD/DVD Sets Permissions To Read Only https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/200462 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 200462] Re: Copying Files From CD/DVD Sets Permissions To Read Only
the change is non trivial and the issue is not a security or a data corruption one so it's low priority for a stable update -- Copying Files From CD/DVD Sets Permissions To Read Only https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/200462 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 200462] Re: Copying Files From CD/DVD Sets Permissions To Read Only
the issue is fixed in jaunty now ** Changed in: gvfs (Ubuntu) Status: Fix Committed = Fix Released -- Copying Files From CD/DVD Sets Permissions To Read Only https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/200462 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is the registrant for gvfs. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 200462] Re: Copying Files From CD/DVD Sets Permissions To Read Only
the bug has been fixed upstream but not in ubuntu yet, it should be fixed in jaunty when GNOME 2.25 is uploaded -- Copying Files From CD/DVD Sets Permissions To Read Only https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/200462 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is the registrant for gvfs. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 200462] Re: Copying Files From CD/DVD Sets Permissions To Read Only
This bug still exist for me in Ubuntu 8.10 Intrepid. According to the discussion above it should be fixed already... ?! -- Copying Files From CD/DVD Sets Permissions To Read Only https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/200462 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is the registrant for gvfs. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 200462] Re: Copying Files From CD/DVD Sets Permissions To Read Only
So I guess a lot of people will quit using that stable (Hardy Heron) bugware release. Explain to simple users that they have to do chmod on files they simply copy from a CD... On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 12:37 AM, Jeremy LaCroix [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: So I guess support has already ended for Hardy? That was fast. I thought it was supposed to be an LTS release. Sebastien Bacher wrote: the hardy task has not been closed yet which means the fix has not been uploaded to hardy, in fact the change is not in intrepid either and will not be available before next cycle. the way it works require new glib function and that's not something which usually qualify for stable updates so not likely to go to hardy -- Copying Files From CD/DVD Sets Permissions To Read Only https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/200462 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is the registrant for gvfs. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 200462] Re: Copying Files From CD/DVD Sets Permissions To Read Only
those are not really constructive comments nor motivating for the people who contribute for free at fixing all those issues, hardy still get fixes and security updates but backporting is lot of work and the team doing this job is small and overworked and can't possible backport every code change made in intrepid -- Copying Files From CD/DVD Sets Permissions To Read Only https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/200462 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is the registrant for gvfs. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 200462] Re: Copying Files From CD/DVD Sets Permissions To Read Only
Sorry for harsh word... Thank You for this fix. But guess I'll have to give up on Hardy, at least when I install Ubuntu on simple users PCs. Keep up the good work. -- Copying Files From CD/DVD Sets Permissions To Read Only https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/200462 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is the registrant for gvfs. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 200462] Re: Copying Files From CD/DVD Sets Permissions To Read Only
the bug has been fixed upstream now ** Changed in: gvfs (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged = Fix Committed -- Copying Files From CD/DVD Sets Permissions To Read Only https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/200462 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is the registrant for gvfs. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 200462] Re: Copying Files From CD/DVD Sets Permissions To Read Only
Is this fix available trough automatic update for Hardy? On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Sebastien Bacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the bug has been fixed upstream now ** Changed in: gvfs (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged = Fix Committed -- Copying Files From CD/DVD Sets Permissions To Read Only https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/200462 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. -- Copying Files From CD/DVD Sets Permissions To Read Only https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/200462 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is the registrant for gvfs. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 200462] Re: Copying Files From CD/DVD Sets Permissions To Read Only
the hardy task has not been closed yet which means the fix has not been uploaded to hardy, in fact the change is not in intrepid either and will not be available before next cycle. the way it works require new glib function and that's not something which usually qualify for stable updates so not likely to go to hardy -- Copying Files From CD/DVD Sets Permissions To Read Only https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/200462 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is the registrant for gvfs. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 200462] Re: Copying Files From CD/DVD Sets Permissions To Read Only
So I guess support has already ended for Hardy? That was fast. I thought it was supposed to be an LTS release. Sebastien Bacher wrote: the hardy task has not been closed yet which means the fix has not been uploaded to hardy, in fact the change is not in intrepid either and will not be available before next cycle. the way it works require new glib function and that's not something which usually qualify for stable updates so not likely to go to hardy -- Copying Files From CD/DVD Sets Permissions To Read Only https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/200462 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is the registrant for gvfs. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 200462] Re: Copying Files From CD/DVD Sets Permissions To Read Only
** Changed in: gvfs Status: Confirmed = Fix Released -- Copying Files From CD/DVD Sets Permissions To Read Only https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/200462 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is the registrant for gvfs. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 200462] Re: Copying Files From CD/DVD Sets Permissions To Read Only
** Changed in: gvfs Status: New = Confirmed -- Copying Files From CD/DVD Sets Permissions To Read Only https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/200462 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is the registrant for gvfs. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 200462] Re: Copying Files From CD/DVD Sets Permissions To Read Only
** Description changed: Binary package hint: nautilus When I copy files from a CD or DVD to my Home directory, the files that are copied are given read only permissions. Prior to Hardy, the user that copied the files would have read/write permissions. Steps to reproduce: 1.) Burn a data cd or dvd 2.) Copy the files to your Desktop or Home directories 3.) The files that were saved will be read only + + Regression Details + Discovered in version: gvfs 0.2.3-0ubuntu4? (8.04) + Last known good version: nautilus 1:2.20.0-0ubuntu7? (7.10) ** Tags added: regression-release -- Copying Files From CD/DVD Sets Permissions To Read Only https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/200462 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is the registrant for gvfs. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 200462] Re: Copying Files From CD/DVD Sets Permissions To Read Only
there is no need to add comments to say you have the same issue on a confirmed bug -- Copying Files From CD/DVD Sets Permissions To Read Only https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/200462 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is the registrant for gvfs. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 200462] Re: Copying Files From CD/DVD Sets Permissions To Read Only
I have the same problem when copying files from read-only drives. I fix it using chmod in the destination folder, but it's annoying. Hope it is corrected. -- Copying Files From CD/DVD Sets Permissions To Read Only https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/200462 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is the registrant for gvfs. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 200462] Re: Copying Files From CD/DVD Sets Permissions To Read Only
I have also this bug, and it's very annoying. I have set make=0777 ISO-9660 file system parameter under CD - Properties - Device - Mount Options, and files copied are rwx, but folders are stil r-x so I have to chmod +w folder to have control over files anyway. I have an idea to put chmod +w -R /home/user/ into a /etc/crontab to run this command every minute. Regular users will maybe tolerate it that way. -- Copying Files From CD/DVD Sets Permissions To Read Only https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/200462 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is the registrant for gvfs. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 200462] Re: Copying Files From CD/DVD Sets Permissions To Read Only
** Tags added: regression -- Copying Files From CD/DVD Sets Permissions To Read Only https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/200462 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is the registrant for gvfs. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 200462] Re: Copying Files From CD/DVD Sets Permissions To Read Only
** Changed in: gvfs (Ubuntu) Target: ubuntu-8.04.1 = None -- Copying Files From CD/DVD Sets Permissions To Read Only https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/200462 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is the registrant for gvfs. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 200462] Re: Copying Files From CD/DVD Sets Permissions To Read Only
** Changed in: gvfs (Ubuntu Hardy) Importance: Undecided = Low Assignee: (unassigned) = Sebastien Bacher (seb128) Status: New = Triaged -- Copying Files From CD/DVD Sets Permissions To Read Only https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/200462 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is the registrant for gvfs. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 200462] Re: Copying Files From CD/DVD Sets Permissions To Read Only
** Changed in: gvfs (Ubuntu Hardy) Assignee: Sebastien Bacher (seb128) = Ubuntu Desktop Bugs (desktop-bugs) -- Copying Files From CD/DVD Sets Permissions To Read Only https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/200462 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is the registrant for gvfs. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 200462] Re: Copying Files From CD/DVD Sets Permissions To Read Only
I have the same problem to me, but I ussed x-term in Blackbox and the problem continues. In Gutsy this is not happened. I confirmed this bug in 3 computers. -- Copying Files From CD/DVD Sets Permissions To Read Only https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/200462 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is the registrant for gvfs. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 200462] Re: Copying Files From CD/DVD Sets Permissions To Read Only
** Changed in: gvfs (Ubuntu) Target: ubuntu-8.04 = ubuntu-8.04.1 -- Copying Files From CD/DVD Sets Permissions To Read Only https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/200462 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is the registrant for gvfs. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 200462] Re: Copying Files From CD/DVD Sets Permissions To Read Only
** Changed in: gvfs (Ubuntu) Target: None = ubuntu-8.04 ** Changed in: gvfs (Ubuntu) Target: ubuntu-8.04 = None ** Changed in: gvfs (Ubuntu) Target: None = ubuntu-8.04 -- Copying Files From CD/DVD Sets Permissions To Read Only https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/200462 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is the registrant for gvfs. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 200462] Re: Copying Files From CD/DVD Sets Permissions To Read Only
** Changed in: gvfs Status: Unknown = New -- Copying Files From CD/DVD Sets Permissions To Read Only https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/200462 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is the registrant for gvfs. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 200462] Re: Copying Files From CD/DVD Sets Permissions To Read Only
Thanks for your bug report. This bug has been reported to the developers of the software. You can track it and make comments here: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=523129 ** Changed in: gvfs (Ubuntu) Sourcepackagename: nautilus = gvfs Importance: Undecided = Low Assignee: (unassigned) = Ubuntu Desktop Bugs (desktop-bugs) Status: New = Triaged ** Also affects: gvfs via http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=523129 Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown -- Copying Files From CD/DVD Sets Permissions To Read Only https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/200462 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is the registrant for gvfs. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
