*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 1616956 ***
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Could someone explain how OTR request is duplicate of OMEMO request?
As far as I am aware, Empathy supports multiple instant messaging
protocols which all support OTR as it's not tied to any specific
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 1616956 ***
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** Summary changed:
- empathy needs to support OTR encryption
+ Empathy needs to support OTR encryption
** Tags added: otr
** Tags added: messaging
** This bug has been marked a duplicate of bug 1616956
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** Tags added: yakkety
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No idea - I've long migrated to software which cares enough about
security not to have critical bugs opened for 5 years.
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How will this be marked as complete on freedomsponsors? How do we pay
Xavier?
Sam
On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 2:32 PM, G4JC 296...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote:
Just so everyone knows, this has been completed quite some time ago via
a bounty developer on FreedomSponsors.
However, upstream is
Just so everyone knows, this has been completed quite some time ago via
a bounty developer on FreedomSponsors.
However, upstream is furiously continuing to ignore the patch and keep their
users insecure.
Source of upstream stupidity:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16891#c46
Read
Ick! If telepathy makes doing OTR securely impossible, that's very bad
news.
We should lobby to remove Empathy and telepathy from Debian stable and
Ubuntu then. OTR is critical post Snowden.
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As good as dead if you care about security. Luckily there are plethora
of alternatives out there with OTR support. See http://otr.im for
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I just logged in to say thank you! I am so happy to see this eventually
finished. Thank you so much. :)
Hope to see this soon merged into mainline. Thanks again :)
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Just because the conversation is encrypted end to end doesnt mean you
cant log locally. Dont know how empathy does this, but in pidgin it can
be set up easily. There is even an option to omiss the conversations
that are encrypted.
I dont really like that distinction, because it implies all
I'm not complaining about people who spend time auditing security
software and finding these bugs making their discoveries known - even if
they are less than polite while doing so. (I myself am taking maximum
advantage of the opportunity to poke fun at ridiculous or borderline
fraudulent
I think people are trying provoke a post-Snowden comment from the devs or
Ubuntu.
This uncomfortable discussion has an important social role in establishing
or restoring or writing off credibility.
Pre-Snowden the official position seemed incredible, but potentially
honestly held.
It may even
Please bump the priority for this. If you can't add OTR support then
please give instructions how to add a plugin. I've been waiting
patiently for several years for this support. I was thrilled to see an
IM client get audio and video support on Linux. Now it's time to get
encryption. We have the
I also feel that Canonical should be funding this or providing
developers since they made it the default for Ubuntu and exposed all
their users to sending cleartext personal info over the internet.
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From comments when this first arose, the empathy developers were not
interested in something that was interoperable with OTR, but might,
someday, be interested in their own unique snowflake of an encryption
system.
I'm not a coder, but OTR is out there, works, and plays well with others.
They
Now it's time to get encryption
I also feel that Canonical should be funding
They really ought to make it work in empathy
Because open source is all about freedom. The freedom to demand that other
people should do free work for you.
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I think they are waiting for a clean well specified standard maybe
with nsa approved security ;-)
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I am sorry if you feel that I have disappeared. I did not intend it that
way. I did what I could to help. The developers of empathy stated that
they could not implement OTR unless they had a spec first. They also
forced the issue that my spec had to include XTLS. I am only a novice
programer and
https://freedomsponsors.org/core/issue/333/telepathy-should-support-otr-
encryption
$942
Maybe someone is willing to spend some time on this. I tried at a point
to gather some support, but well the core developers of empathy believe
OTR is a bad idea, and well jprvita is not willing to continue
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** Tags added: 14.04
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Thi bug depend of thi one:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16891
There are crownd funding project with one or two student who work on. The find
are to 450 $
http://freedomsponsors.org/core/issue/333/telepathy-should-support-otr-encryption
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Bounty is now at 400 USD. Make that 4000 USD and someone with the
required skills can spend a month between two jobs collecting it. Sadly,
FreedomSponsors seems quite unpopular, so that people in the right
position might not see the tender offer. Are there perhaps other
platforms one could
@Bengt Lüers
I agree with all your points.
But none of the empathy dev want to do it.
No-one who is capable of doing it wants to do it.
I was just trying to summarise why that might be the case.
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I think https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_mass_surveillance_scandal
should be a good motivator to speed up support for OTR.
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pidgin was written by problem solvers
empathy is written by architects
they have different itches to scratch.
Those who want encryption still use pidgin. It still works.
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@sam-liddicott Empathy does not need to support OTR, because *there are
no* alternatives that do. Empathy needs to support OTR, because *there
are* alternatives that do. It is state of the art to support OTR and
Empathy not including it is backward.
Empathy is the instant messenger included the
Maybe the GNOME folks would share a bit of their $20,000 that they
raised to enhance security and privacy for the GNOME desktop?
https://www.gnome.org/news/2013/07/gnome-raises-2-to-enhance-
security-and-privacy/
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Might there be new interest in seeing this one through, in light of the
recent revelations?
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Could someone create feature request funding at
https://www.catincan.com/
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It may be worth approaching the guy who did it for pidgin.
An alternative might be to write a shim library so that pidgin plugins
would work with empathy.
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 10:39 PM, Justin Alan Ryan
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Do we have someone who can commit to doing this work
Do we have someone who can commit to doing this work if funding shows
up? I'm happy to help promote a kickstarter campaign.
On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Pablo Castellano pab...@gnome.org wrote:
No deadline extension is possible, they have received a lot of
proposals.
They told me that
No deadline extension is possible, they have received a lot of
proposals.
They told me that there will be another funding round this year.
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Yesterday I sent OpenITP an email regarding a possible deadline extension but
they haven't answered yet.
I'll let you know if they answer me.
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I would love to jump in and tackle this: I'm a developer, I want to
switch to Empathy.
I know lots of developers work on things they care about in their free
time; I can't afford to do that right now. Without turning this into a
classified ad, I'll simply suggest that anyone interested in helping
My idea comes one day late as the deadline was yesterday :(
OpenITP is looking for projects to fund. Eligible projects must work on
improving users' ability to circumvent censorship and surveillance on
the Internet. So OTR support for Empathy fits perfectly!
It might be worth asking if we can get an exension on the deadline
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I'm willing to do it! I think it's worth asking, Pablo.
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You could also consider a Kickstarter campaign. Don't expect a fortune
but maybe enough to compensate your efforts.
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OK, soon gsoc will start again. Maybe it can used to find someone who
will implement OTR in telepathy. Does anybody has good connection to
telepathy/gnome/fdo developers to ask if they would provide a mentor for
such a project?
What really annoys me about the otr integration in telepathy is the
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I love empathy, but it lacks a off the record plugin or encryption like
in adium or pidginit is a shame, as empathy is such a great
messaging client.
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@Ronny Rabuzarus, I did not discuss OTR further with the developers
since there was no way to use it at the time. They are always aviable
via #telepathy on freenode IRC. Keep me updated if kde-telepathy gets
OTR, I have KDE as one of my desktops and that would be a good reason to
use KDE more
@Jordan Farrell
I could talk with them latter this week and see if they would merge it, but
still what good would it do with no way to use it?
There are also some requests regarding otr for kde-telepathy. But the
the delopers could only start to implement it in kde-telpathy after the
integration
This bug and the zRTP one are crucial for privacy and security reasons
yet they are already 3.5 and 2.5 years old, respectively. Would it be
possible to go crowdfunding or something similar in order to speed up
the addition of OTR and zRTP to telepathy and empathy? It would be great
to have out of
That sounds great! It's really needed. Let us know if we can assist
somehow
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Can some paypal help? I'm clean out of time...
Is the nearly-done code committed anywhere?
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@Sam Liddicott as I stated before the code is hosted here:
https://gitorious.org/jprvita-repos/telepathy-gabble/blobs/otr/src/im-channel-otr.c
https://gitorious.org/jprvita-repos/telepathy-gabble/blobs/otr/src/im-channel-otr.h
The code for OTR is mostly done for telepathy-gabble that is; but there
Can that be merged for now and then the Empathy UI can be worked on?
Is jprvita needed for the merge?
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@Danny Piccirillo: jprvita is not needed for a merge because it is Git,
any one could just clone it. The code has to be merged into main-line
telepathy and that has to be approved by the lead telepathy developers.
I don't know how stable that code is, but they will not accept unstable
code into
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Most of the work for this is complete, but project has stalled. Perhaps
if I have time again latter I can get a hack together.
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This bug is not in relation ??
Please include support for RFC6189 (ZRTP):
https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/816163
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@ Khairul Aizat Kamarudzzaman (fenris): At this moment i don't see OTR
in Emapthy's preference :-(
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can we have OTR in precise milestone ?
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obviously a wasted effort it seems, because the programmer disappeared.
all went fine until july 27,2011 when something snapped, and no more
updates or signs of life from the programmer (jprvita)
he kept posting on the blog and even met with telepathy programmers in
berlin, but it seems about
+1
I am tired of pidgin and very interested in Empathy. But i depend on
OTR, so i cannot switch.
I know 5 others in my local geekosphere who have the same.
OTR is unaware of the layer below. That makes it clumsy or unelegant to
implement for an individual protocol like XMPP. But at the same
Jedna et all, I have found that the code for implementing OTR in
Telepathy.Gabble is complete as shown here:
https://gitorious.org/jprvita-repos/telepathy-gabble/blobs/otr/src/im-channel-otr.c
https://gitorious.org/jprvita-repos/telepathy-gabble/blobs/otr/src/im-channel-otr.h
Which will mean
Jedna Dvatři, I am willing to push forward on OTR again if need be. First I am
going to try to reach out to Jprvita one more time.
This is what I know right now which is rather out dated and it does show that
according to his time-line it should be done, but deadlines can be hard when
dealing
It seems that in spite of the good work of Jordan and other volunteers,
development of this widely desired feature is falling through the
cracks. Will it be possible to regroup and finish this work if jprvita
is not available to help?
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I'm out of the office until 1st August.
On 5 May 2011, at 01:27, Mark M 296...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote:
I've been tracking this bug over the years and am very happy to hear
momentum is gaining. I'd humbly like to put forward a use case that
may
or may not affect how the implementation is
I'm out of the office until 1st August.
On 14 Apr 2011, at 07:12, Jordan Farrell 296...@bugs.launchpad.net
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Actually, it would be impossible to have made the cut for 11.04 just
because the day I started the project I would have only had two weeks
to get something pushed through and
I'm out of the office until 1st August.
On 14 Apr 2011, at 04:34, mitzip 296...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote:
Jordan,
Is there any hope to get it in the final release of 11.04? That
would be
awesome!! The first Ubuntu release with OTR in empathy I'll be
switching
my business and family
Hi Jordon,
You indicated in https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16891 that
there would be a monthly update.
And earlier you indicated that people should watch:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16891 and
https://bugs.freedesktop.org//show_bug.cgi?id=29904
Do you have a code
Hi Anand,
I have pulled back work on a pythonic fix for the Telepathy OTR situation. But
before I did that João Paulo Rechi Vita started advancing my work and has since
completed all of the spec work for OTR. He is now building the Telepathy Gabble
OTR code and will then finish the Empathy
@Jordan: It's great to know someone is working on it - I'm available for
testing too, as unfortunately I have no real Python coding experience.
As for python-OTR, [1] has released the first beta of the pure python
implementation protocol, it doesn't seem the authors are dropping the
support for a
@Jordan: There are a lot of us OTR junkies waiting in the wings to
congratulate you when you get this done. I'd really like to use Empathy
on my Gnome 3 system, but sometimes I really need OTR and it's not an
option not to use it. When you have code that can be tested, I'd be very
happy to give it
@ZAP: Thanks for volunteering. I will let you know when I have something
concrete. I am still tinkering and there have been some changes to
implement OTR only rather than accommodating XTLS too. One thing I have
to be careful of is that OTR is considering dropping support for Python-
OTR, which
In response to Mark M, I think this is why PGP also took off and is more
widely known than S/MIME.
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I've been tracking this bug over the years and am very happy to hear
momentum is gaining. I'd humbly like to put forward a use case that may
or may not affect how the implementation is performed.
I regularly use OTR via Pigdin to securely communicate from a jabber
account through a private jabber
Actually, it would be impossible to have made the cut for 11.04 just
because the day I started the project I would have only had two weeks
to get something pushed through and then approved for the code freeze
date. However I am shooting for 11.10 and I now have two more people
that will be helping
Jordan,
Is there any hope to get it in the final release of 11.04? That would be
awesome!! The first Ubuntu release with OTR in empathy I'll be switching
my business and family over to Ubuntu.
Thanks for your work on this,
David
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Why is there so much resistance to OTR?
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David, their is no more resistance among the developers. I am working on
it, but for this month my time is still limited. But by mid May I will
have a lot more time to dedicate to this project. SO please stay
hopeful, OTR is coming to Empathy I promise.
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Thanks ... lots of people want OTR in empathy.
Steve
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David, their is no more resistance among the developers. I am working on
it, but for this month my time is still limited. But by mid May I will
have a lot
I just wanted to mention that this is a critical bug for people who
lives in autocratic regimes like Iran whose Internet activities is
constantly under supervision. Specially now that people are using
virtual medias to organize their event. Several people has been
arrested in Iran during past
For updates on this bugs status please watch these two bugs:
http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16891 and
https://bugs.freedesktop.org//show_bug.cgi?id=29904. 29904 will be the
most active initially well the end-to-end security spec is ironed out
enough to support OTR and hopefully future
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Pander, I do not see the relation between this bug and aMSN, does aMSN
use Telepathy for it's back-end? The OTR patch for Empathy is actually
being applied by providing OTR support in Telepathy, which is the back-
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If, after Pidgin, Emphaty is also going to support this, aMSN should
support this too in my opinion. See
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/amsn/+bug/216872 for Yes,
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If I submitted a patch and it got reviewed and approved prior to
feature freeze then the patch would be committed correct?
If upstream agrees on the way the fix is done yes
I see the release date for Natty is April 28, 2011, but when would the
feature freeze date be?
the reply to that was in
All, I have already been speaking with the Telepathy developers, there
is certianly no way the work can be completed by Natty, but I think I
will have a patch by or before 11.10. I am currently gathering details
for my proposal, which will get tweaked and then be drafted into a Spec
for Telepathy.
Natty Release Schedule is here:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyReleaseSchedule
Feature Freeze seems to be on February 24th.
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I think this qualifies for a papercut therefore I added it. Please some
one confirm this.
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Please do not expect a patch for this by Natty, I will not be able to
dedicate serious time to this until my schedule clears up. I have it
slated for serious work, not just tinkering and learning starting on the
18th of January 2011. During that time I have given myself nearly 15
days to work
If I submitted a patch and it got reviewed and approved prior to feature freeze
then the patch would be committed correct? I see the release date for Natty is
April 28, 2011, but when would the feature freeze date be? It is possible
depending on how those 15 days go that I could make Feature
We still do not have this?
I want to program it. Please one of the developers contact me. I will work this
and I will code it, I will also make sure that all of my code meets your exact
specifications. I am serious.
I am getting my degree in software engineering, and I already have a good
We need to have this by Natty. That would be awesome.
We still do not have this?
I want to program it. Please one of the developers contact me. I will work
this and I will code it, I will also make sure that all of my code meets
your exact specifications. I am serious.
I am getting my degree
Yes ... this is important imho
On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 11:50 PM, Allen Lowe lallenl...@gmail.com wrote:
I can confirm that there ought to be some sort of standardized
encryption available in empathy. It appears that the upstream developers
have considered this. I suppose it's just a matter of
I can confirm that there ought to be some sort of standardized
encryption available in empathy. It appears that the upstream developers
have considered this. I suppose it's just a matter of waiting at this
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this bug is misclassified as wishlist: upon introduction empathy was
supposed to replace pidgin, it is unable to do so because crucial
functionality is missing - thus it is REGRESSION and should be treated
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